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Dont tell me i missed all this action. Why didn't someone mention me? hulk616 ![]() |
Laurene:Lol. Sure thing, ma . Everyone can have an opinion, doesn't make you right ![]() |
Laurene:But they own the site the said critics review on ![]() Besides, if you believe they dont own people's opinion, why do you think Disney does? Do you have any evidence that Disney is paying critics? If you have a problem with Rotten Tomatoes, there's always Metacritic. |
JujuSugar:Perhaps that's a way to clear up the language. JujuSugar:But then, this. I take issue with this because it is defining morality as that which promotes well-being. I define morality as something like that which a human should or should not do. I would not define well being as morality, therefore I would not agree that to say otherwise means "we are no longer talking about morality." But absolute morality, okay. Perhaps we can work with that. So it is fair to say that the atheistic view I've seen presented is that it ia not absolutely wrong to gas Jews, or it is not absolutely wrong to hate, and that it is not absolutely better to be a loving father than to gas Jews. I think this explanation is fair. |
JujuSugar:Understand that this is simply based on my observations. In my experience. Particularly here on nairaland, and on listening to Sam Harris and his followers. But it's ultimately anecdotal. That's why it's "by my estimation". |
JujuSugar:Not exactly. I think most atheists argue that objective morality exists independent of a god. And I think theists have overwhelmingly won that debate. As for objective morality vs. moral nihilism, that's un-won territory in my book, but moral nihilism is sort of winning by inches. But yes, if you accept the nihilism inherent in atheism, and if we're talking about whether or not objective morals actually exist, then you are correct that this is unfinished business between the two sides. |
JujuSugar:Technically no. So great question. It would be that the theist has valid a positive case for objective morality while the atheist does not. Something like that. |
JujuSugar, these are entire debates in and of themselves, so I will not be debating these points. I will simply state the central claims of the points you mentioned, and that should shed light on how I believe that these points relate to theism or atheism. Again, please note, I will not debate the actual points on this thread. JujuSugar:There are no universally correct values on an atheistic worldview. JujuSugar:Materialism cannot account for logically necessary metaphysical truths like the existence of the supernatural or God. (Please re-read first paragraph of this comment before reacting to this point) JujuSugar:Evolution is true as opposed to Biblical creationism. JujuSugar:Our actions are predetermined rather than freely chosen, and evils are predestined by natural laws rather than agent causation, thereby making God to blame for evils. (Though this view finds companionship with Calvinism) |
Cc. budaatum, MuttleyLaff, Vaxx, JujuSugar, Ranchhoddas |
TheKingIsHere:What's wrong with a Marvel fan liking Batman? ![]() |
So, by my estimation, it appears that theists have won, for all intents and purposes: 1. The logical problem of evil 2. Morality (objective moral standards and non-arbitrary value systems) 3. The limits of science, the axioms of the scientific method, the end of materialism/naturalism, etc. Atheists, by contrast, have won: 1. Determinism (no free will) 2. Evolution 3. The emotional problem of evil 4. Scientific inerrancy of religious texts And it appears they can all agree, for the most part, upon: 1. Evolution 2. The psychological significance of religion (though they often disagree on the impact being positive or negative) 3. Infinite reality (theists believing in an infinite being, atheists believing in an infinite material universe). These debates are by no means settled, of course. What overarching arguments/debates do you, honestly, think either camp has "won"? What conversations do you think both sides are having on common ground? Cc. LordReed, IamSabrina, Martinez39, CreepyBlackpool, HellVictorinho, MJBOLT, hahn, 1Sharon, paxonel, johnydon22, Frank317, RuthlessLeader, AgentOfAllah, HappyPagan, NPComplete |
Laurene:I though Rotten Tomatoes was owned by Warner Bros ![]() |
Emmanystone:Nah. Its cos you know NOTHING about predestination. That's why you're running like a sorry ass chicken. What a pity ![]() |
MJBOLT:Yh. I should ve said btw Marvel and DC ![]() |
CosmicPhoenix:Yup we all knew this was coming . DC salt is everlasting.In the meantime, Spider-Verse is the first superhero animated film to win "Best Animated Feature" at the Oscars. |
Emmanystone:Uhm, Anas09.... Oops sorry ![]() Emmanystone or whatever you call urself, you're clearly the uninformed dummy cos if you weren't you'll know that predestination and free well are mutually exclusive. Drop your Bible and pick a book once in a while. Idiota! |
First of all its zombie. Not zoombie Emmanystone:If your god is omniscient then you have no willpower Emmanystone:*yawn* Emmanystone:Your God has predestined your actions already. You have no free will |
JJOF:DC fanboys .No excuse they won't give to downplay their trashing in Marvel's hands LMAO ![]() |
BlackManta:Bro, are you aware that there is a group of DC fanboys online boycotting Marvel films? Yes OR No? |
Emmanystone:And how does it feel to be a useless zombie through religion? |
JJOF:E go be like film my brother ![]() |
MJBOLT:Amen, bro ![]() |
Raalsalghul: postdigger:Choi!!! cc. MJBOLT, Shittaakeem, IamSabrina, hulk616 ![]() Come and see rejection!!! ![]()
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MJBOLT: IAmSabrina:Hmmm We'll see if Disney bias rears its ugly head again. I really want Spider-Verse to win. Then again Spider-Verse didn't get snubbed completely like The Lego Movie so that's a good sign perhaps? |
Lets see what goes down at the oscars. Fingers crossed that Spider-Verse beats The Incredibles. I know Spider-Verse has gathered the most critic awards when it comes to 2018 animation, but Oscars are very biased towards Disney animation. |
TheKingIsHere:True that, bro. But JujuSugar was frying his ass tho ![]() |
LoL. Cc. MJBOLT, Shittaakeem Abeg who be this guy? ![]() Rextizz:Oya quote don happen. Only pussy niggas argue with girls, bro. Like I said, get a life. Don't face me, face the people yabbing ur life ![]() |
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