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Hi Chinwe11
   From my assessment of your situation and social standard, you would not be having much of a problem in getting the UK visas except for the fact that you are making your application a bit late. Now, the onus is on you to give the embassy enough time to work on your application, and now, (except your application is considered a straight case) three weeks might not be enough for the Entry Clearance Officer to reach a decision. And in the event that the ECO is not able to reach a decision before your time, the application will be refused and visas denied.
   Lets hope that the ECO reaches a decision and your visas will most definitely be approved

amydonics:
There are no better greener pasture out that here at home,If we put half of the effort we put outside in this country i believe we become the best country in the whole world.
First of all do have something you know how to do very well.
Do you have a better knowledge of what you said you can do.
have you put small effort to make it know to people that you are good at this.
and many more if you need them,
You can become what ever you want to become if you can give your self time.

amydonics:
Hello Every one,

I just want to express my self deeply because i have tried very hard to make ends meet and become rich like others.
Things are not actually going as i planed them. the question now is do i need to travel abroad before i make this money,get a nice apartment,have a good education,settle down,at least have a nice car and keep body and soul together.

what should i do?time is running out,we are 2011 no time ooh

what should i do pls.

Ha, Justwise, you want kill me with laughter? I no fit laugh when i compared the guy's two posts: see what frustration can cause

Justwise and Flawless,
   Could you please explain what i seem not to be getting right here?
   Now, Fishbook claims to be a holder of a 5years "Dependant Visa" through her brother; this makes me understand that she is more or less an orphan minor. And now, she is talking about her fiance coming to the UK. How about that, are adults eligible for dependant visas in the UK, is there no age limit?
   In Ireland, a person can not get dependant visa once s/he is over 16, and also, except under compelling reasons on humanitarian grounds for an orphan, and there exist an explicitly formal legal custody, a person is not eligible to adopt his/her sister as a dependant.
   
   However, in every country, a dependant is simply ineligible to invite a guest of any kind. So, as harsh as it may seem, Fishbook is simply unqualified.

Ha, this thread has gone nuclear.
   @ Justwise, i don't think you can defeat this multitude because, it would take more than a debate to defeat them all.
   Well, to the best of my knowledge, ayodeji200, Flawless, xtremetee and Juzme are getting it all wrong.

no1madman:
Women will always approach u,if u r good-looking and well-dressed. .
D question is:Are u approchable/presentable?

So, how many times have you been approached by them?

^^^So, is this it?

First time to hear that

[quote author=Kiss_Ikebe link=topic=570533.msg7584607#msg7584607 date=1295737532]Lol. Well, there are lot of options, but just being too selective, i'm really liking it there, thanks [/quote]Well, too many options might become a facttor for poor choice, you know

[quote author=Kiss_Ikebe link=topic=570523.msg7584582#msg7584582 date=1295737164]Saying my mind[/quote]Just thought you said i'm in your mind

Kissy, so how's bebeye treating you?

Flawless:
Definitely this scenario is a criminal act. Am talking about people who are prosecuted for working illegally with no forged document involved.

Seldom would a judge sentence a person for working illegally. When Immigration Officers are arresting an illegal worker, they are doing so on suspicion of being in the country illegally; they have the employer to deal with for employing illegal worker.

Flawless:
Or other minor immigration crime such as getting on the bus without the right fare etc.

It is a CRIMINAL negligent to travel on a commuter bus without the appropriate fee, not immigration.

Flawless:
Someone working illegally sometimes gets btw 6-8 months while GBH or Criminal Damage can walk away free cos he or she is a citizen.

In any country, (except the basic fundamental human rights) an illegal resident can never have the same rights or privileges with a citizen of the nation, understand that

@Flawless
I never doubted that people with Immigration issues are held in prison facilities, as i personally know people who are in such situations. But i insist that there must be other crimes involved for an illegal alien to be kept in prison for "2 to 3 years". Verify this.

Tell me, what do you say of a Nigerian illegal resident who managed to obtain a Dutch passport and altered the information on the document by replacing some vital pages etc; Now, is such offence IMMIGRATION or CRIMINAL?

Ha, how would i have thought that Turkey is a part of the UK, i honestly thought you were going to write about Turkey, the Nation.

ayodeji200:
MY JOB(SECURITY WITH ONE OF THE SECURITY AGENCIES) HERE HAS GIVEN ME OPPOURTUNITY TO SEE A LOT OF MY FELLOW NIGERIANS IN PAINS.IT'S QUITE UNFORTUNATE TO SEE A LOT OF YOUNG NIGERIAN GRADUATES IN BRITISH PRISONS AS WELL AS DEPORTATION CENTRES BEING LOCKED DOWN FOR 2 TO 3 YEARS COS OF ONE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM OR THE OTHER[color=#990000][/color]. THE POPULATION OF NIGERIANS IN EITHER PRISONS OR DEPORTATION CENTRE IN UK IS REALLY ALARMING.

To be locked up in prison for "2 to 3 years" is definitely not as a result of immigration offence, there are other serious criminal offences involved.

ayodeji200:
IF U LIVE AROUND LONDON,I THINK U COULD TESTIFY TO WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY HERE,IT'S SO PAINFUL SEEING MY FELLOW NIGERIANS INFRONT OF ASDA STORES WASHING CUSTOMER'S CARS. I M NOT SAYING D JOB IS BAD FOR THEIR SURVIVAL BUT MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS,U NEED TO FEEL THE WEATHER (-1 degree) TO KNOW THAT NOBODY,I MEAN NODODY EVEN ANIMALS DON'T DESERVE TO WORK IN SUCH AN HORRIBLE CONDITION BUT COS OF THEIR BILLS,THE SITUATION THEY FOUND THEMSELVES MUST VE COMPEL THEM TO DO THIS.SOMETIMES,I WISH I M RICH ENOUGH TO BAIL THEM OUT OF THIS HORRIBLE SITUATION.

Man, what you're saying here doesn't really make sense to me. How could you complain about the Nigerians working in the cold weather? Honestly, you seem to be one of a lazy kinds who would cover himself in blankets while the hard-working people are doing their jobs in any weather condition, afterall, you know that Europe doesn't have same weather with Africa.
   My goodness, you are even talking about a moderate winter temperature of -1 oc, what would you say about people in the North East of Europe where the temperature can drop below -40oc? In that case, you would really expect everyone to stay idle for several months until they begin to beg for bread.
Man, to be honest with my opinion, you seem to be a lazy one hence you are encouraging laziness.

ayodeji200:
FINALLY,MY FELLOW NIGERIANS,PLS AND PLS,DON'T COME TO EUROPE WITH VISITING VISA WITH INTENTION TO STAY/LIVE HERE.STUDENTS VISA IS OK FOR NOW.GOD BLESS NIGERIA.

This is the only area in which i agree with you with no reserve.

debenjie:
@Vicjustice, Thanks for your response. My bank account is very active. My brother in UK, has already include in the appeal letter that he's going to incurred all the expenses for my trip to the UK, . He gave his 2 bank statement, pay slip and house agreement to show is capable of sponsoring to the UK, which I sent together to the tribunal, with it my appeal was allowed.

I will be taking the updated bank statement with my passport to the UK Lagos Embassy, because it was from UK Abuja that instructed me to go and drop it there.

Though, your chance is not the most excellent of chances (due to the fund in your Bank Statement), but still you can succeed on your brother's merit. But the million dollar question is, what would you tell the ECO that you'd be returning to Nigeria for?
   If you can satisfy the ECO on your home ties and obligations, then you could stand up to a 90% chance.

[quote author=mr.man link=topic=127964.msg7626010#msg7626010 date=1296290408]Vicjuctice- Please,do i need to include my tax payment slip and my pay slip with the application.
Please,your advise is needed oo ![/quote]Your pay slip is a must except your bank statement is transparent enough, and has your income records.
   As for the "Tax Slip", i think there is no better person to answer that but yourself. In Europe, Pay Slips also contain tax record, so, there would be no need for "Tax Slip" when Pay Slip is present except in the event of scrutiny.

Hi all.
@ Poster, there's only one outcome from this application and that is; visa refusal together with a 10 years ban, and the ban might not be revoked even if she married a UK citizen. It would take a great deal of legal struggles to get the ban overtuned

debenjie:
@Vicjustice, thanks for your response. I submitted my current bank statement to the embassy. Why should I submit an altered one to them since I know the consequences of using a fake document. UK visa is not do or die. Money keeps going in and coming from my account just that the balance I have now is not up to the initial balance I had when I submitted my visa application.
Anyway, I am gonna print it like that and submit to them, I hope for the best. Are they going to interview me when submitting the documents? how long is going to take to get response from the embassy when I submit the documents?

Actually, an active bank statement with low fund is by far more credible than an idle one with huge amount of money. So, if your account statement is running with transparent transactions, you might stand a reasonable chance except the money in it is questionably too low and ridiculous.
   Now, when a person is applying for a visa with a Bank Statement that is deemed impressive howbeit, with low balance, the Visa Officer will then divert his attention to the person inviting the applicant to see whether there are other compelling reasons to grant the visa, so, it will then depend on the quality of calibre of the reference in the UK that can help in determining whether the visa would be issued or refused.
   Therefore, considering these, and as you are applying for Family Visit visa, why don't you request your family in the UK to back up your application and accept part if not all of the financial responsibilities? The move would save you lot of trouble.
   Now, given that this application has undergone appeal, interview is very likely. But it might not be necessary to call you for it if the Visa Officer considers your case a straight approval or refusal.
   And the length of time it would take to reach decision is not something anyone can guarantee you, not even the ambassador can guarantee that. So, things would be done in rotation and the period of time would depend on the jobs in their hands and the traffic of other applications.

[quote author=mr.man link=topic=127964.msg7614739#msg7614739 date=1296143900]@Siena and Vicjsustice - My uncle that sent me the invitation letter is currently in Nigeria but he is leaving back to the Uk on sunday,can he send the recommendation letter to the british high commision as he is here?,i am afraid they might trace the i.p of the e-mail to be in nigeria,i hope it won't affect?.I am thinkin of tellin him to send the recommendation letter when he gets to the uk on sunday or what do you think?. Please what's the LAGOS British High commision e-mail address for him to send them the letter.[/quote]It really won't count where he is sending the email from as long as he will be in the UK in the due time, and he doesn't need to lie about his location because it would be a lasting disaster if he's caught lying.

kowade:
am a graduate of 1 of the best university in this country as of today,and would like to travel to Europe for my masters, England would have been the ideal place but the fees are too high. all i can afford to raise would probably be 700000-800000 Nara.need information on destination in Europe where i can study for masters with that amount and be guarantee quality.jt advice.thanks

You mean you have no one to sponsor you? If so, that would be difficult except you have other intentions rather than being a student.

Siena:
1) Letter of invitation.
2) Your bank statements (last 3 months) if you're supporting yourself.
3) Your uncle's bank statements (last 3 months) if he's sponsoring you.
4) Your address details (where'll you'll be living for the duration of your visit).
5) Your passport (valid for at least 6 months).
6) A letter from your current employer in Nigeria.

It would help if you could provide information that prove you have strong ties to Nigeria, that are likely to make you return, at the end of your visit.

Best of luck.

Ha Siena, i thought it's not in your interest to give guidance regarding visa application issues. Abi you don vex?

debenjie:
Hello all, I won my appeal for family visit. The embassy called me to bring my updated b/s with my passport. Given till next wk to submit the documents. I don't have enough in my acct and also just paid my salary in cash in my acct. Vic, Justwise and others. What do u think i can do? Thanks for advice.

For the embassy to have directly required of you to present your current Bank Statement means that it will definitely be a deciding factor.
   Actually, i'm just wondering what happened to the fund in the account statement that you initially provided, i hope the statement was genuine as i hope you know better than attempting to alter your current statement.
   My advice: Present the your bank statement as it is, though, we hope you get the visa, but if however they refuse you, your situation will still be better than if you modify the statement and getting banned for 10 years.

But since when did women become involved in visa scam?

Actually, in all fairness, i think Nigerian men with their arrogance and poor mentality do not encourage the women to make romantic advances at them, a woman who makes advances at a Nigerian man is highly likely to have a lasting regret of the action

lilibee:
@vicjustice, sweetie don't go calling pple thieves. I am a woman wt reputation. If u doubt what someone is saying, y don't u just ignore it. ✆ d number if u want to know more about it. There's no way of convincing your like unless u c it for urself.
Firstly, there is a new Belizean embassy in abuja n it's d only one in africa. Find out if u wish.

Oh, did i hear you say you're woman or a WOE-man

Me too, i need a multi entry visa for Malaysia. Thank goodness you're here to help. How much would you charge me?

lilibee:
✆ me 4 details n requirements 07043279008. Keep your N250k down.It's real, fast, n authentic.

Man, you're setting a record as the most daring thief in Nairaland.

Why are African Ladies so shy (or should i call it proud) to approach and make advances at men that they admire?
   I'm not saying that it's the best thing, but it is not a problem for western women to invite a man into her romance. .
   Now, i am yet to see that Nigerian girl who would make direct advance at a man and let him know that she desires to be with him; she would rather die in pretence while praying to God to direct the man to her. Why is it so?

[quote author=Kiss_Ikebe link=topic=582376.msg7538126#msg7538126 date=1295098063]Why not? That's if the guy deserves it, i'm only a woman and i have desires for men too.[/quote]If that be the case, then how many men have you approached first?

ogbeche77:
In 2008 I was in my second year in the university, then I applied for a family to the uk,my uncle in d uk sent me an invitation letter stating that he will be responsible for my accommodation and upkeep throughout my 2 weeks stay,hes is a citizen and owned an accounting firm in the uk prior to this my uncle had earlier invited my mom twice to the uk, and he was also responsible for her upkeep, she returned back to Nigeria, never overstaying on her visa on both trips.

Accompanying d invitational letter is his passport bio page (uk passport), in the IV letter my uncle stated he ll be responsible for my accommodation, I also stated it clearly in the form I filled, but I was refused, here is d statemen[b]t’ in considering your application overall I am not satisfied on d balance of possibilities that u met d requirement of paragraph 41 of the immigration rules HC395 that in your application form that your mother will pay for the cost of your visit, but u never summated any evidence of your mother employment, income, savings, so am not satisfied u will be able to stay in d uk without recourse to public fund. You also stated that you are a student of a university but u never submitted any official correspondences confirming your registration and attendance in the university, so am not satisfied u av social and financial ties to Nigeria to ensure your return.[/b]
N.B I submitted my school id card, final student clearance, current school fees and dept. receipt.

I was told am entitled to appeal the decision, as a result I proceeded to a solicitor, since I believed they were more experience, In the appeal lodged by my lawyer he stated that: am quoting his appeal sent to the ECO’ there decision is erroneous that contrary to the clearance officer findings that I have stated that my uncle will be responsible for my upkeep and not my mum, so them asking for my mums savings, employment or income is totally out of place and also the official correspondences from the school is not among the check list of the application form, so my lawyer concluded that since the information on which d decision was made was on faulty and inappropriate there decision should be reviewed. However, the documents accompanying this appeal sent now included my mums account statement, a letter of consent from my dean of faculty and also my HOD

On the 22nd of dec 2008 I got my decision, but am still confused up till date: it reads [b]:the appellant has sought entry clearance, after careful consideration of the application the ECO declared that the appellant has failed all d requirement of d immigration rules for the reasons set out in the attached notice of refusal, your notice of appeal was received at the AIT in Lagos and I am not persuaded by to alter my decision, I considered the local condition of Nigeria which is attached, the attached document stated that Nigeria is a population of 140 million, it has one of d lowest GDP in the world and its rich in oil, its placed 158 0f 177 in human devp. Index, 80 of 108 among poverty human index, 108 of 178 by transparent international,142 of 163 among corrupt nation, In conclusion, the appellant was advised in extensive publicity from this deputy high commission of the required documents needed in order for his application to be assessed, on the basis of this and in the light of DR*(Morocco) 2005. I respectfully request that any additional evidence submitted by the appellant should not be taken into consideration. Any evidence can be used to support a fresh application and this is the proper course for such information I rely on the refusal notice of the ECO and request that this case to proceed ta an appeal before an immigration judge and respectfully request that the appeal is dismissed.[/b]

I observed they never faulted or commented on any document I later sent for appeal, so I don’t know why the appeal was dismissed, since then i have never applied nor appealed the judgement,my fear now is will this affect my future application, I intend applying for masters in d uk when am through with school later this year, how do I go about this, and when asked why was I refused earlier what should be my reply. Many thanks in anticipation for your responses’

The contents of your long text is very well understood. Know that this very case is dismissed and closed.
Now, it is not as bad as it seems to be refused a visa, especially owing to the reason(s) of the refusal, so, you can make subsequent application whenever you feel you're prepared for it.
You said you are concerned that this development would affect your future application; the answer is YES. It will definitely have impact in your future application, but it will not affect it in a negative way because, the embassy understands that you were a genuine applicant who was refused a visa because the Visa Officer wasn't satisfied regarding a certain paragraph.
So, while it is said that your future application will be treated in its own merit, this particular application will still be considered in the future one, and that is a good thing because this nature of this failed application may have some positive influence in your next application.

ogbeche77:
In 2008 I was in my second year in the university, then I applied for a family to the uk,my uncle in d uk sent me an invitation letter stating that he will be responsible for my accommodation and upkeep throughout my 2 weeks stay,hes is a citizen and owned an accounting firm in the uk prior to this my uncle had earlier invited my mom twice to the uk, and he was also responsible for her upkeep, she returned back to Nigeria, never overstaying on her visa on both trips.

Accompanying d invitational letter is his passport bio page (uk passport), in the IV letter my uncle stated he ll be responsible for my accommodation, I also stated it clearly in the form I filled, but I was refused, here is d statemen[b]t’ in considering your application overall I am not satisfied on d balance of possibilities that u met d requirement of paragraph 41 of the immigration rules HC395 that in your application form that your mother will pay for the cost of your visit, but u never summated any evidence of your mother employment, income, savings, so am not satisfied u will be able to stay in d uk without recourse to public fund. You also stated that you are a student of a university but u never submitted any official correspondences confirming your registration and attendance in the university, so am not satisfied u av social and financial ties to Nigeria to ensure your return.[/b]
N.B I submitted my school id card, final student clearance, current school fees and dept. receipt.

I was told am entitled to appeal the decision, as a result I proceeded to a solicitor, since I believed they were more experience, In the appeal lodged by my lawyer he stated that: am quoting his appeal sent to the ECO’ there decision is erroneous that contrary to the clearance officer findings that I have stated that my uncle will be responsible for my upkeep and not my mum, so them asking for my mums savings, employment or income is totally out of place and also the official correspondences from the school is not among the check list of the application form, so my lawyer concluded that since the information on which d decision was made was on faulty and inappropriate there decision should be reviewed. However, the documents accompanying this appeal sent now included my mums account statement, a letter of consent from my dean of faculty and also my HOD

On the 22nd of dec 2008 I got my decision, but am still confused up till date: it reads :the appellant has sought entry clearance, after careful consideration of the application the ECO declared that the appellant has failed all d requirement of d immigration rules for the reasons set out in the attached notice of refusal, your notice of appeal was received at the AIT in Lagos and I am not persuaded by to alter my decision, I considered the local condition of Nigeria which is attached, the attached document stated that Nigeria is a population of 140 million, it has one of d lowest GDP in the world and its rich in oil, its placed 158 0f 177 in human devp. Index, 80 of 108 among poverty human index, 108 of 178 by transparent international,142 of 163 among corrupt nation, In conclusion, the appellant was advised in extensive publicity from this deputy high commission of the required documents needed in order for his application to be assessed, on the basis of this and in the light of DR*(Morocco) 2005. I respectfully request that any additional evidence submitted by the appellant should not be taken into consideration. Any evidence can be used to support a fresh application and this is the proper course for such information I rely on the refusal notice of the ECO and request that this case to proceed ta an appeal before an immigration judge and respectfully request that the appeal is dismissed.

I observed they never faulted or commented on any document I later sent for appeal, so I don’t know why the appeal was dismissed, since then i have never applied nor appealed the judgement,my fear now is will this affect my future application, I intend applying for masters in d uk when am through with school later this year, how do I go about this, and when asked why was I refused earlier what should be my reply. Many thanks in anticipation for your responses’

The contents of your long text is very well understood. Know that this very case is dismissed and closed.
   Now, it's not as bad as it seems to be refused a visa, especially owing to the reason(s) of the refusal, so, you can make subsequent application whenever you feel you're prepared for it.
   You said you are concerned that this development would affect your future application; the answer is YES. It will definitely have impact in your future application, but it will not affect it in a negative way because, the embassy understands that you were a genuine applicant who was refused a visa because the Visa Officer wasn't satisfied regarding a certain paragraph.
   So, while it is said that your future application will be treated in its own merit, this particular application will still be considered in the future one, and that is a good thing because this nature of this failed application may have some positive influence in your next application.

[quote author=Kiss_Ikebe link=topic=570919.msg7534151#msg7534151 date=1295035209]I guess i know the reason @ vicj[/quote]Go ahead, say it.