Rossikk:

Fight with what? The people were militarily defeated. The colonialists didn't physically force you to renounce your traditional religion. All they did was deny you the education needed to succeed in their new system if you decided to hold on to it. This is why it's virtually impossible today to find an educated person who is a traditional religionist. Except for some enlightened thinkers like Prof. Wole Soyinka and co. It is the result of deliberately planned policy. A policy to shut out African religious philosophies from the new African personality they created.

No doubt they considered those philosophies a major threat to their ambition to engender pliancy and a pro-western outlook among Africans, to easier exploit the continent.

Correctly said indeed. Beliefs are often embraced due to the goodies/freedom that comes with them(beliefs),atheism is no less an example.

Christians tend to beliv in the bible because they're living in fears induced by the mysteries in certain occurrences,yet they're fearful to acknowledge the bible's absurdities n inaccuracy.

@NLers,una get time to dey make a CRAZEMAN convinced 'bout MZ idea. Ma brodas n sisters a CRAZYMAN is doomed to his un-lucid egotisizm(him no send ur sympathy/analysis).

tpia@:
una nor dey tire, zombies.

I don't tink u are tired either,rite?

bokohalal:

(1)Many people believe the left hand is unlucky.
(2)Saying to an elder he/she is unlucky?

Forreal?

White007: Nice one bruv.

Lemme post mine too, pic of a Nairalander in Disney land.

He don start,because of FP na u won go photoshop

Anyway,whether u photoshop or not jes ty make ur swagg dey crazy(because d op jes try him luck). If d MOD no carry am rich FP I go climb mountain swear for iim head

The first time I had ^ up on nairaland,got derailed comments,perhaps because I had it up in a non-aligning section.
Overtime I have experienced discrimination at giving/collecting things with the left hand,especially from the elderly ones. I did ask for reason towards this perception,but all I get back is 'u can't understand(especially from d old people)' or 'disrespect'.
All I wanna know is:
I)What spiritual complications are attached to the ^^,if there were none then...
2)If it were owing to respect,then what cultural value(s) is this perception based on or what's the origin of this perception.

I'd appreciate un-derailed contributions. Thanks

gronzywares:

a slowpoke and his ego problems

Yawnsssssssss

Yea,that yawn was pretty necessary,becos u sound like u really had an hectic day,u could back it up with a long slumber (pele,u hear).
Jes 2 talk a lil lemi say this,that aint no ego-problem display rite there,that was involving is self-esteem(healthy one). Even a deeply committed clown would have self-esteem problems.

musKeeto: Nw which of dem I go like? Lol..

ma comment na. Abi u no dey feel me

Emusan:

The man didn't say God does not exist if you read it with utmost mind. But because devil has looked for a way to snatch his soul he begins to see God as a wicked being. If God doesn't exist somebody like me won't say anything about Him. Science is real but claiming there is no God is wrong. By God's grace I have something to invent to the whole world soon but does that mean I must claim that God doesn't exist NO! Some scientist got it wrong when they are begin to reason abstractly. To the man I pray he will realise where he got it wrong and reconcille himself back to God.

Sir,u are the person who read without utmost mind. The former evangelist purely stated that one can only disprove things that can be proven,and since he can't disprove God this means there ain't no proof of God = his non-existence. The man didn't say he saw God as a wicked being(since he couldn't fathom or sense a god,how would he have said that),he only said that he saw the bible's concept of God as a wicked,childish and fictional being.

musKeeto: Reminds me of this story I shared sometime back

[size=16pt]FROM MISSIONARY TO ATHEIST[/size]










Read the full text here: http://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/articles/the-pirahae-people-who-define-happiness-without-god/

what more would I say to ^. Jes to avoid unnecessary repetition of wat u've given account.

Anyway,I would say; we have got jes only our potential power to protect this world n I rise to make others(only free thinkers n atheist,the religious will derail the progress) rise,and together we shall make this world more safe,controlled and habitable for our only good...If ya aligned to this,like this comment. Cheers

Emusan:

The man didn't say God does not exist if you read it with utmost mind. But because devil has looked for a way to snatch his soul he begins to see God as a wicked being. If God doesn't exist somebody like me won't say anything about Him. Science is real but claiming there is no God is wrong. By God's grace I have something to invent to the whole world soon but does that mean I must claim that God doesn't exist NO! Some scientist got it wrong when they are begin to reason abstractly. To the man I pray he will realise where he got it wrong and reconcille himself back to God.

Sir,u are the person who read without utmost mind. The former evangelist purely stated that one can only disprove things that can be proven,and since he can't disprove God this means there ain't no proof of God = his non-existence. The man didn't say he saw God as a wicked being(since he couldn't fathom or sense a god,how would he have said that),he only said that he saw the bible's concept of God as a wicked,childish and fictional being.

musKeeto: Reminds me of this story I shared sometime back

[size=16pt]FROM MISSIONARY TO ATHEIST[/size]










Read the full text here: http://ffrf.org/publications/freethought-today/articles/the-pirahae-people-who-define-happiness-without-god/

what else would I say except that jes to avoid unnecessary repetition of wat u've given account.

Anyway,I would say; we have only got jes our potential power to make this world safe n I rise to make others(only free thinkers n atheist,the religious will derail the progress) rise,and together we shall make this world more safe,controlled and habitable for our only good...

If ya aligned to this then like this comment. Cheers

amanda2013: finally !wel welcome bk to nigeria bro. Hv heard so much abt u 4rm the likes of goshen and crew. Hope to be seeing u more nw u are wt us.

O boi,this babe don dey fall o,anyway,I understand sha. Apart from say,lobicboy famous 4 here,him name sef SEXY enough to make u fall

Though,logicboy actually became more popular within the time of his absence.

musKeeto:
Na Obadiah house u wan go chop meat? Lol... anyways u be crase man.. if two of una crase jam.. na una bizness be dat

Ma broda,them be legions of crazze so them na how to work am out.

[b][/b][/quote author=dorox]I'm sure he misses logicboy and he's not alone, you can count me among those who would like to see logicboy back in nairaland.
This is my post about him when i nominated him as religious poster of the year.
[/quote]

I envy ur honesty bro.


Buh,worry no more 4 I will be the next logicboy (abi I don be logicboy ni). Jes joking.

manmust :owac:
It sounds as if you badly miss him

Yes he does,I think. I do too,because I find the urge to open a thread on the good memories of hi(logicboy) accounts.

I actually want to download a few videos of omarion vs chris brown dance freestyle. I need a virus-free website,where I could download these videos with ma mobile phone only(not a computer).
I would appreciate your aligning contribution.
Thank U.

highness 111: @ooman thanks , I visited the site but I was shocked when I read that they don't sell souls . That you won't be made rich if I join. So what is the essence of joining then.

From ^,it's obvious that u ain't ready to become rich. U yet,await a miracle money either from jehovah or lucifer(which ever u worship at the time d money comes becomes credible n worthwhile to u,though believing both,still). Hmm,sir,kindly go try d babalawos,there are ones u need. Atheists don't do miracle or let u have things without working hardly persistent for these things,they don't need lazy n delusional folk like u. THAT's D TRUTH

(Check d date)I wanna believe this is an april fool catch(though,I could be wrong).
@OP Are u actually this illogical?
U were a student there,n u possibly did understand the behaviour of the authorities (or u forget ni)
Buh,yet u resorted to temperamental(in the lecturer's view) utterances.
U had better learned from d wrong path u took,instead of settling at,blaming their prevalent behaviour.

diluminati: I saw a wonder that lasted for just 10 to 11 seconds. I cant believe it, it was a very short and chillin experience.i was fortunate to catch the video of the image that appeared to me, it was a face and i believe it is and was God.they said seeing is believing. Who wants to see the video?

U jokin' rite. Are u a non-believer(or atheist per se)?

@OP

To an atheist satanism literally,doesn't mean doing evil(harming people),with that understood I can now advise u.
View the long term before making decisions or negotiations.
Don't do things because of jehovah but for ur benefit n dat of ur prospect.
Give all ur time n thoughts to the world,n allocate no portion of ur time n thoughts to the spiritual(u waste precious time because,they don't exist n every thing or thing to happen are all natural potentials).

Pastor Olu T:

Would you because of immediate gratification loose life, what shall it profit a man if he gains the world and loose his soul, or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?

Soul=body (did u know. Perhaps u didn't then,read d noah story or the OT entirely n assimilate properly)
One always loose one's soul,whether one gains something or didn't gain anything in the world..
At a particular timetperhaps,nine-five) Ur soul is in exchange for ur salary,u may never admit this buh,it's d truth.

ooman:

who is talking about my own standards here. I gave you the definition that EVERYONE accept to be true but which you deny because it doesnt favor you.

i hate it when people deny the obvious

Meeen,I too hate it,I get freaked out in such situation. Though,I have learned to argue for a chance to impart or be imparted upon,n resist impact-ful impartation especially when it involves intelligent folks.

Ihedinobi: ^^^ How were they not?

Don't give back to me ma question,ma question explicitly give a glimpse of ma potential answer to it. U jes answer ma question? AND STOP DRIBBLING.
I'll leave u to ur opinions,u are (too) stubbornly ignorant to c the light.
As regards,u OYO.

Ihedinobi:

Lol. Atheists and their claims to expertise on religion. Typical.



Lol. Perhaps you can explain what it means to say what a Christian should be. It sounds just as odd to me as saying what a tree should be. There is something that a Christian is and something that he is not. What a thing is is what it is in its most natural state, in its unguarded moments. And I have described what the Christian is.



So what exactly is your point, man? Did I insinuate that prayer does not involve asking for things and receiving them? Point out where I did, if you're of that opinion.

Besides, how does any of those passages you cited convey the thought that God exists for our convenience? Did you notice the conditions Jesus attached to the requests? One has to ask in His Name or on the strength of the Father's recognition of Him which means the asker cannot hope for a favorable response when his request contradicts the Character of Christ? One has to ask in Faith, and when you consider that Faith hinges on what God says or declares, then requests made in Faith must be understood to be requests made in consonance with God's revealed Will. Prayers of agreement eliminate selfish interest. Two believers or more in prayer concerning any given issue make possible the removal of selfishness in requests.



So how does that quote preclude the use of medical science, my friend? Are prayer and medicine mutually exclusive?



Such nonsense. Where was this claim made?



Lol. I'm yet to see how any of those passages makes prayer a magic wand. I see conditions attached to the promises of answers to prayer, conditions that check the sort of abuse godless people would immediately jump on. Jesus made it clear: ask what I would ask, ask what the Father has promised to give, ask not merely to swell your possessions but to enter into the bounty of God's goodness and you will always have what you ask for. However, ask for your own selfish gain and you will have nothing.

Now if a man communes with God in prayer to discuss with Him as with his loving Father, he will still make requests for specific things and receive them if he asks in the character of Jesus Christ. If he asks in the wrong character, he will still get an answer: NO. Simples.

Well said,so tell me,how are the prayers of the critically ill ones or the women in OP against 'God's promises?
How were the prayers of the relatives or friends of plane crash victims contrary to jesus' prayer request proportion?

Ihedinobi:

So, can you show exactly how that post of mine failed to show that prayers involve making requesta and receiving answers?

Check this.

Ihedinobi: @Area boy

So it is erroneous to treat prayer like a tool of God-persuasion which results either in getting what you want and thus proving something about God to you or in not getting it and thus proving another.

^^ is precisely where u did fail to show that... . As for the affiliate write-up,u were just pointless because many claimed to have gotten divine direction on their path and yet they failed on this(divine instruction) path(e.g pst. Tunde bakare's presidential runz).I rest ma case here, Marzeje has answered you in ma potential words.

onyfrank: .
Y wud i shut up. Is anything hard 4 u 2 understand in ma word?
I on my own do nt exist, bt God is existing as myself

So,in other words,u are 'God' n there are over 7billion distinct 'Gods'.
Now it's obvious,how u believe u can control every natural force.

Ihedinobi: @Area boy

The beginning and end of the "disbeliever's" trouble with God is that He won't fit the little boxes man makes for Him. Whether or not you believe that God exists, I'm sure you appreciate the concept of Necessity and that of Contingency. If God exists, He'd be a Necessary Being rather than a Contingent Being. That means that He would not do or undo, say or un-say, anything at all, literally exist at all at anyone's behest. Everything would exist at His behest instead.

That means that arguments against His existence that are built upon the idea that God exists for man's convenience are essentially non-arguments. They create a definition of God that suits their purpose and proceed to attack it.

Yahweh is held by the Christian to be not only Sustainer of Life but Sovereign Lord of it as well. The Christian believes that he can trust God in and for everything. The Christian holds that he does not know everything nor does he understand everything but that God does and that God can be taken at His Word. For this reason, he holds that whatever he may go through, there is a good reason which he will learn at some point for which he must endure or enjoy it, as the case may be.

The Christian does not think that God exists for his convenience. In fact, he does not think that God exists for him at all. He is positive that it is he himself who exists for God, that his being is contingent upon God's Own. That is how the picture is. So he does not pray to make God do things that suit his convenience. He prays to get into agreement with God's Will about his life. Since he believes that God knows everything and understands everything and that God has a good end in mind for him and also that God has given him the choice to cooperate with Him in achieving God's End for him or resist Him, the whole point of prayer for him is communication with God, to share his desires and hopes with Him and have Him share His Own Desires and Hopes with him. By this, he will learn steadily to cooperate with God toward achieving God's Dreams for him. The Christian does not consider prayer to be a magic wand that gives him anything he thinks is good for him. He thinks of it as hanging out with a really good friend, dad and comrade. All that is what God is to the Christian.

So it is erroneous to treat prayer like a tool of God-persuasion which results either in getting what you want and thus proving something about God to you or in not getting it and thus proving another. That is what aliens to the House of God do, not what children of the House do.

U did twist the Word(bible) the best way u could to comfort yourself and fellow folks,though,however way u may try u can't change the fact that prayers in faith must be answered,to support this motion,jesus did compare how his father(Jehovah) grants prayer request(esp. of faith) to how a child persistently requesting from his (biological)father and the father showing emotions n thereby granting the child his request.

dvdon:
Not all kids come from God, the devil has a way of possessing Gods creation in the womb and sometyms give children he has little powers too. The question is that, how did d couple get there kids, n wat is there family background like?

Did u forget that the bible distinctively revealed that d devil receives the consent of jehovah b4 he(devil) can operate(esp. on d Godly ones),Job's story,book of revelation n a number of books proves this. To be much realistic,how do u affirm to love a loving omniscient n omnipotent jehovah who (with his knowledge of things to come n absolute solutions) made less intelligent being(compared to him(jehovah)) and give consent to devil's temptations(yet knowing their(men) absolute end after the temptations),not enough,refusing to answer prayers,most times awaiting their(men) great faith(yet knowing their weak stance),n finally condemning non-believers to hell on earth and heaven. Is that the peak outcome of love and limitless intelligence?

manmustwac: As far as am concerned God can't answer prayers because don't exist. That's why when the parents realized that their prayers wasn't working decided to shout & draw the attention of their neighbours who helped saved their baby

Lol

Jide Macaulay(naija's gay pastor) felt the ^(ma post),he felt the need to appreciate the way he is,so he attributed is feelings to the Christian god since he believes in a god,regardless of the bibles disapproval.

The prophecies/promises in religious books are mere wishes and imagination(preferably,vision,to many) of men,make a vast research on it fulfilment and u will find it's inaccuracy and non-fulfilment(like u(inspiredbyGod) witnessed).
Vastly Open ur mind and contend religious creed to occurrence(historical or wareva),one don't necessarily need science theories to question the god perception. Wareva ur outcome,afterwards research,make of it as u wish.

Richard branson(an atheist & famous billionaire) has escaped death a number of times in this extremely dangerous adventures. Who saved him? A lot of religious folks will say their god was involved n got a purpose,I systematically refute that,religious books holds that its god depart from souls(people) that ain't on its side(this refute every excuses of any sort).

The feeling for god is driven by one's need for protection
And emotional concern to appreciate mysterious beneficiary impact of natural forces(circular human needs;wind,body system etc) of the universe.

@ooman u letting emotions cloud ur intelligence,y beef at macdaddy *n don't deny it*,or have u derived at the conclusion that scientific theories must originate atheism? Macdaddy gave the best answer to OP qstn Number one(a valid conclusion,after invalidity in religious books about the universe n scientific theories to some extent(in their case,still seeking)).

@alfaman u are being no indifferent from ooman's emotional reflections. Loving u n ooman's illustrations was a ride worthwhile for me but,until now,u both are beginning to lose ur intelligent approach to peer group(NLers) opinions. I understand that ones emotions most times could be inevitable,but in this case it mustn't(be inevitable). Emotions cause the beefs y'all know that(skrikylmi noticed this too),abeg retreat to ur initial reputation(atheist are known for their love to learn beyond limitations *even the religious can affirm that*).

Greetings to y'all.