₦airaland Forum

Lucrativress:
Trump isn't far from the truth with the malaria drug,I think we should look into this cause I'm 100% sure,Coronavirus has 70% symptoms of acute anaphylaxis,acute malaria and hypotention

Trump is not a doctor.

Cant you guys refer to the experts and leave Trump out of it?

Jeez.

mrsage:
Learn to get your facts right. I told you earlier learn to read and watch the news.

Spend your time wisely. Always tune to Credible news channels

Who told you we have just 8 confirmed cases in Nigeria?

How many do we have?

Even his enemy can paint a car to misinform the public.

White mammoth project.

ozoneboy:
Produce with cost of production toppling the capital of the common man,Do you have any idea how much is spent on energy alone?

One day you would realise these are all excuses.

sam4noow:
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kindly screenshot where I made that statement... I can see you Don't have a job either...

you can send me ur acct no. make I drop something 4 ur aza

You think you are wise.



Before I made the statement I had already taken the screenshot.

Beggar.

Shattuck:
true but you can't absolve the govt of blame too it stems from our educational system too how many unis in Nigeria engage in research,infrastructure is poor too and the fast lane to wealth which a lot of our young ones have resolved to is because our society values wealth irrespective of means than anything else.

I've never said government has no blame.

Matter of fact, the government comes from the pool of individuals that populate the nation.

The sum average of the Nigerian is what you see in the political sphere.

sam4noow:
I wich I could meet you in reality so you can explain the statement being made that Nigerians are lazy and unproductive.. imagine this mr man saying me and my fellow brothers re lazy...

Human resources is one of the major Resources the govt. needs to put in other to achieve a sound Economy..
No water, no light (heat wan kill me last night and still thinking of how to sleep tonight), Bad roads

Pls Don't you ever throw that Card on my dear brothers (Nigerians) ever again.... ode

Your own case is special.

Are you not the one putting your account number on Nairaland begging people to assist you ?

And you say you aren't unproductive?

trutht828:
Nigeria generates 20k $ annually? Is this a mistake or sign of dumbness?

I'm sure you can read but I'll write it again for you to understand:

The average Nigerian only creates two thousand dollars a year.

Nairalandmonika:
You that's talking how much do u generate?
Let's start from there

Would you believe me if I told you?

kikero:
You make a.lot of good arguments, but the problem is the government you support isn't making the hard decisions needed to make Nigeria more productive.

Like removing Subsides completely, metering everyone and so on

Subsidies would go this year.

The subsidies would go because a local alternative to imports, in the form of the Dangote refinery would come on stream. Of course, this may have to be reviewed based on how Covid-19 affects its take off.

I don't know how to communicate this, but as someone who travels quite a lot, the one thing I ask myself in every society i find myself is "why are these people so successful?" And I can only point to productivity as the reason.

We have cocoa but do not make chocolate.

We have hides and skin but we aren't known for leather works.

We must produce no matter the excuses.

Ehiscotch:
All that doesn't matter now, we need to rally round to end this before it becomes disastrous.

Na only when you dey alive naim you go worry whether person na shaman or pastor.

I wish this was the attitude of the average Nigerian to everyday problems.

layzie:
@ Voltron,
I don't seem to understand why u heap the blames on populace and leave out the leadership. It doesn't make sense. U called the popuplace highly uneducated, unimaginative, unproductive and expecting to live like Jayz. Where do u get that from?
[b]same populace that agitated for and govt eventually agreed to pay minimum monthly pay of 30k( less that 100 dollars) [/b]How do they expect to live like Jayz with that??
How many of these 200m populace does govt cater for in terms of social welfare as done in the countries with 'productive' populace? and yet how many of these populace do u personally feed daily since they are unproductive and most likely poor without food? The answer to the 2 questions if not zero, is infinitesimal compared to the country's population. And yet, these unproductive poor people eat everyday, clothe and strive to send their kids to school and all that. How do they do manage these while being highly unimaginative and unproductive?
A drive around town will show u myriads of informal enterprises being undertaken by these 'highly unimaginative' populace to keep body and soul together.
They do what they can given the environment they are faced with. A country of 200m still grappling with 3k megawatts of electricity does not support production anywhere in the world. It's not the popuplace's duty to provide electricity. Heap the blames to the right quarters.

I did not invent our GDP per capita which is less than 2000 dollars and on that basis, 30k per month, is perhaps the best the government can muster.

I insist we are unimaginative hence the low GDP per capita. I'm not a solving government of a lack of imagination but as I often say, you cannot get apples from a maize farm.

I tell you, we have so much raw materials to create various things the world would desire but do we?

We talk of power supply but have we found a local solution to the problem?

If we haven't, its because we aren't thinking.

I would continue to beat this drum - produce or perish.

jedisco:
They were voted in to build on the progress or fix the errors where necessary of the past 55 years and not to start blaming every past government from Nnamdi Azikiwe of 1960.

The question is that in the 5 years they've been there, what tangible steps and progress has been made on power? 5 years is enough time to know the direction of a sensible government

My initial response is the lack of creativity and productivity of the average Nigerian, however you seem more fixated on government.

I continue with my premise, Nigerians are unproductive and uninventive people.

Whatever shade you wish to colour it by, 60 years of nationhood underlines this fact.

Watch how he would swing it to politics.

jedisco:
Stop making excuses for ineptitude. This government is over 5 years but they're still pointing fingers.
Privatisation of some aspects of power generation was a step in the right direction. What I had expected this government to do is to build on that by mandating distribution companies to issue meters to customers much more earlier. After all, most were shedding power even when available as they preferred to use estimated billing. What did the government do for all these years it's been going on? It's now they're trying to find a solution.

Also, another way they could have built on past efforts was by privatising distribution (which the government still hold unto and has continued to run it down) and making it easier for states to produce and supply power locally. It's not rocket science. Keep this government for 20 years and they'd still look for who to blame

The question I would ask you is if this government is inept, were they also responsible for lack of power supply for.the rest 55 years?

Publish your pay slip even if you wish to keep your name anonymous.

Gerrard59:
When you agree that lack of constant electricity is a huge obstacle to productivity, then you are talking. The cost of transporting a container of goods from Osaka to Lagos is the same as from Kano to Lagos. How is that any entrepreneur's fault? The cost of production is at least 30% higher than other comparable nations. These were said by senior executives at Olam. So I wonder how productivity can be achieved when electricity is unavailable. Before you mention the Chinese, do understand that they are backed by cheap loans from the Chinese government.

Is electricity cheap anywhere?

Talking about the cost of shipping from Osaka to Nigeria viz local transport, isn't that the reason for the creation of dry ports?

tensazangetsu20:
So why doesn't the government provide electricity and an enabling environment if they seek to increase productivity? Most people do not need more than those to build something. What policies have the Nigerian government put in place to make Nigerians more productive? To make businesses thrive. Tell me.

You know many Nigerians are unwilling to hear the truth.

Under the previous government electricity was privatised. Unfortunately, it was sold to fly-by-night businessmen who had no interest in improving on power but seeing it as an opportunity to make money forever, even without effort.

Since these deals are legally binding, the government of the day cannot break such a stranglehold.

In any case, we are an extremely poor nation, and seeking quick fixes are unachievable.
We do not have the local capacity to build cables or any form of components to make power generation a local game.

Government has recently sought the support of Siemens and we can only support them to achieve, rather than castigate, impugn and sabotage.

Often times, I wonder if Nigeeians truly seek a solution to their predicament.

tensazangetsu20:
The government doesn't want Nigerians to be productive. The more people get productive, the more people would climb out of poverty, the lesser people they would be to control. They still need to share rice and win votes and that's why anything to defeat poverty would always be crushed.

Unlike many, I don't do such conspiracies.

There is no government that does that, none whatsoever.

There are many positives from all governments in Nigeria but I insist, the Nigerians are too unimaginative to embrace the opportunities.

Even this thread speaks volume.

Notice how, as soon as I made it an economic discourse, the early dimwits abandoned the thread?

That is typical.

As soon as it requires effort and persistence many flee.

tensazangetsu20:
You talk about producing and trading but your own government closed the borders. Those closed borders continuously affects businesses in Nigeria. The shoe producers in Nigeria can't move their products out. Nigeria as a country does not take trade serious. Well oil is down to 23 dollars. Everyone go feel am Las Las.

So it's the closure of borders of 6 months that rendered Nigerians unproductive for 60 years?

AlfaSeltzer:
So na to only entertain the world we go dey do? Cooning on an international level?

I simply used an industry we are all familiar with and how it has changed the landscape.

We must produce, be it movies, chewing or chocolate.

B

tensazangetsu20:
Build what with which electricity. As of one Abacha was president Nigeria was one of the poorest countries in the world with a per capita Income of less than a thousand dollars, sanctions, authoritarian rule and massive corruption. It's not as if it was paradise.

Young Nigerians are trying. The tech startups springing up were built by them. Some of which the government is doing everything to extinguish. The government and the leadership of Nigeria is a problem and until Nigeria has quality leadership she will never ever get better ever.

We are not doing even close to enough.

Less than 1% of the population involved in a trade that brings in less than 2% of the total GDP isn't the yardstick you wish to measure with.

The common man should be in tangible production, be it of bathroom slippers or zippers.

The cost of labour is extremely low in Nigeria, which in itself should drive productivity as a significant factor of production but it doesn't.

We must produce.

Produce or perish.

tensazangetsu20:
As much as there are a lot of Nigerians being unproductive, it all still boils down to the government. What enabling environment have they created to ensure that people are productive. There is no electricity. You start up something and they are ready to destroy it all. A lot of people have tried to do something in this country and make something out of their existence here but the environment is brutal and unforgiving.

Let me tell you something.

When Abacha was president, Nigeria was under a choke hold, there was no electricity just like today but that was the period in which the Nigerian home video industry (Nollywood) became an African brand.

What of the Afro music that has gone global today, when did it germinate?
Same time as when Abacha was in power.

That is the kind of creativity we need in all spheres.

Today, we are talking of Coronavirus, how many protective Hazmat suits are being built in Nigeria?

How many masks are being built?

How many of the clothes in your closet are made in Nigeria?

Honestly, we lack productivity and it stems with the populace.

Stephenomozzy:
You lie oo.... Haven't you heard and read of Nigerians making waves and great strides in robotics, aeronautics, medicine and engineering outside the reach of our government! Nigerians are an inventive, resourceful and highly productive people!

Nigerians are the saving grace of the system of hypocritical negligence that abounds in governance today

Spare me that.

What percentage of the population are achievers?

Haven't you heard about 14 Nigerians arrested for fraud in the USA, just this week? That is not wholly representative of us, neither are these hardworking people you are referring to.

Yes, we are capable of learning but learning isn't invention, neither is it productivity.

Productivity is desire and application, what you find the Indians doing.

We as a nation are unproductive and I can't reiterate this enough.

We need to realise this.

Quickly.

Stephenomozzy:
If Jay-Z was under the current laughable state of our dear country, Even Jay-Z won't live like Jay-Z.

What I'm saying is... Government owes a responsibility to not only draw up budgets and hope to fund it from dwindling preexisting sources of fund, but it also has to set up measures to revamp dying sectors of its economy to boost its revenue....so if crude crashes entirely.. Would we stop/call off governance?

The populace is unimaginative, uneducated and highly unproductive.

This is the stark reality.

Take out this leader, bring in a new set, the situation would be the same until the people realise they aren't actually inventive.

Stephenomozzy:
What percentage of that 200million actually feel the direct benefit of such fairytale figures pegged as budgets? If not epileptic discharge of constitutional duties

Nigerians generate an average of 2000 dollars annually.

What miracle are you expecting?

A man produces only 2 thousand dollars of wealth annually but believes he should be living like Jay-Z.

Get real.

Ruggedniggaone:
na from only abacha them say them collect money?

How much do you think a country of 200 million people require for its annual budget?

vicdom:

E don red now. This is the time our pseudo change and next level government should bring out all the audio recovered loots, trillions saved in TSA, customs and et al and fund our budget. I don't wanna hear story oooo. Because all these acclaimed monies are suffice for our budget funding. Very useless and clueless government with dimwitted zombies as apologists.

How much is all of the Abacha loot from even when Obasanjo received it till date that you think it would balance our budget?

OmenkaNwunyem:
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Ekuke.

NothingDoMe:
Still trying to understand why he did that. Makes no sense.

There were flights from Italy as at around four days ago. Nigerian returnees were not quarantined.

Nobody can quarantine a thousand travelers.

The best you can get is an advisory on self-isolation.

You only quarantine confirmed cases.

ttomexy:
lies, she was discharged when her corona virus test result was not out yet, she died on Sunday, the result was ready on Monday, so when did you discharge her? NONSENSE

What of the negligence of her children who brought her to Nigeria abandoning modern science and better facilities in UK.

Or that doesnt matter?

Freshfish4:
She never had Corona in the first place. Enugu state government used it to embezzle 20million naira. This country is messed up. Now the woman might have died out of fear

You guys would invent scenarios that eventually consume you.