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Dismissal is a slap on the wrist.

Those INEC officials should have been severely punished. As one other poster here said - there are laws against this sort of thing aren't there?

anonimi:
You say the federal administration under Jonathan is not leading by example, right?
Yet he made asset declaration in 2007 following Yar'Adua's example. Please tell us how many other elected officers followed that example of Jonathan for four years till 2011. Will it not be foolish to expect him to do something that others are not following despite his leadership example

The federal attitude to the rule of law on corruption has been much better than in the past:

What is the role of the state legislature and state judiciary in checking corruption at the state level?
Why has that not worked the way it has at the federal level?

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On the matter of public asset declaration, all GEJ needed to do was keep at it if he really believed in it. So because he declared his assets (very reluctantly I should add) in 2007 and no one followed his lead, he folded 4 years later?

The links you gave haven't really added much. The oil subsidy fraud link states that 1 (yes that's right - 1!) conviction was recorded. On a billion dollar fraud that gripped the attention of the entire country. And yet in this same country, people get extended jail terms for pilfering goats and yams.

The link on Mr. Igbinedion merely stated that the Appeal court had approved his trial. Nothing more. The last link talks about an arraignment of suspects. Nothing more. So what's new?

I am not sure of what you mean in your last two sentences. Care to elaborate?

anonimi:
I guess you meant 2007 instead of 2011 you typed.

Why has pressure not been put on others, including the ApCheat holier-than-thou crowd, to also declare their assets since 2007?

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My error, I meant 2007.

You have a point that there is more intense scrutiny on the FG than the states. For example - it is nothing short of criminal that state governors can withhold local government statutory revenue allocation. Unfortunately, this brazen disregard of the law cuts across party lines and that explains why all governors rose with one accord to resist calls for LGs to get what is due to them by law. These are the signs that our system is not working. But I digress.

I am all for a public asset declaration. Any party that supports it will definitely attract my interest. Unfortunately, it is not a campaign issue for most parties so it doesn't even show up on the radar screen. The reason why GEJ gets so much flak on the issue of asset declaration is that Yaradua set a precedent and GEJ was a very unwilling 'collaborator' in that attempt by Yaradua to set a standard at the very highest level. If GEJ had continued with a public asset declaration in 2011 and the PDP had made it a campaign issue, the ACN and other parties would have had nowhere to hide.

To round up: the federal government is not leading by example. It reserves the power to prosecute, and the key law enforcement agencies are federal. If the federal government were to lead by example in some key areas, then the pressure on the states to meet those examples would increase. As things stand today, state governors and LG chairmen take their cue from federal attitudes to the rule of law. This is a key reason (although by no means the only one) why we are where we are today.

anonimi:
I am saying that Jonathan's federal administration in the last five years has done better than Thief'nuibu cabal's 16 years in lagos state, do you not agree with that?

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Both of them in general do not meet my standards for performance, openness and transparency. That's all that matters.

anonimi:
Are you not backing any horse in the race(s)?

BTW, talking about asset declaration, Jonathan is the only living elected officer to have done so in Nigeria, while those jostling to replace him have NEVER done such.
Don't you think that shows he is BETTER by far to those in the party of his main competition

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We have fought this asset declaration battle so many times I am tired of going over it again and again.

You have cleverly phrased GEJ as some living symbol of probity. Well, we were around in 2007 and we know what happened. Yaradua declared his assets publicly in 2007 after the elections while GEJ inexplicably refused to do so. Only after relentless pressure from the media and civil society did he finally deign to publicly declare his assets. I didn't vote for him in that election and that was exactly the point when I made up my mind that I would never vote for GEJ. Is it any surprise that GEJ has not publicly declared his assets since the death of Yaradua? Ponder on that.

If GEJ is voted out and another administration comes in, you can bet that the pressure will be on them to publicly declare their assets too. Even if no one else says anything, I will.

anonimi:
Those who wish to replace Jonathan have had their party in power in Lagos state for 16 years, how much information about their transactions and issues are on their state government's web sites

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As I said earlier, some of us are not here to play dirty politics. The Sunborn yacht affair and other well known examples of how the LASG and the APC party faithful criminally shortchanged the people of Lagos - these are some of the reasons why I cannot and will not vote for the APC in lagos state. Period.

It will be insane to turn around and celebrate the PDP for similar acts against the people of Nigeria.

March 2015, we await you.

anonimi:
- Is this not how it is done in the far away places that many of our people have "escaped" to
- Would you rather not have a legalistic Law & Order society?
- How much information about government in Nigeria is available on the internet?

Those who wish to replace Jonathan have had their party in power in Lagos state for 16 years, how much information about their transactions and issues are on their state government's web sites

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You talk as if nobody else knows how other parts of the world work.

In Western Europe and North America (among other parts of the world) key government reports and white papers are in the public domain. They are just a mouse click away. As I type, I have a pdf copy of the US president's asset declaration in 2012. And I am not a US citizen! I have a copy of the US government report on the 2008 financial crisis. I even have reports of US congressional investigations and US federal government white papers from the 1950s!

As far as your comment about Lagos state - i have answered you as clearly as possible so you know where I stand. Instead of you to fight for the removal of underperforming, opaque governments in both Lagos state and at the federal level, you chose to back a horse in the race.

As I said, we will all meet at the polls.

anonimi:
Yes to the highlighted.

Moreover, the Jonathan/Sambo administration has done much better than previous administrations on all scores, including the fight to systematically reduce corruption in a sustainable way. You can go through the 12 pages of the thread below for more information.


https://www.nairaland.com/2117791/achievements-jonathan-sambo-administration-pictures


The perception problem of this federal administration is worsened by the excellent propaganda machine of the Thief'nuibu cabal.

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You will have to disclose the crucial information you are privy to, which the rest of us are not aware of. I can't read your mind.

I have gone through your thread and in my view it didn't address the key issues in a comprehensive way. When a few posters raised key questions about whether Nigerians were getting value for money on these projects, they were shouted down. One fellow even went as far as saying "anyone who claims GEJ isn't working is a son of the devil."

The FG's problem is not a perception problem. It is real and based on facts.

anonimi:
- Have you asked for access to the report and you were not given?
- Have you petitioned your senator and representative for access to the report and what was their response?
- How do you think Businessday wrote its story without having seen the report?

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You are being legalistic here.

On a matter of such significance, nothing less than pride of place on a government website would have been acceptable. The document should have been scanned and uploaded, with PwC's staff signatures clearly visible.

To access the report you are now suggesting that I have to go through my senator.

We will all meet at the polling booth next month, God willing.

The Ides of March will soon be here.

anonimi:
I think that you (like most of our fellow citizens) are taking in too much of the APCheat propaganda against this federal administration, otherwise you would have noticed these:

Why do we find it easy not to give adequate credit for the very credible efforts of this federal administration to achieve greater transparency in governance

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No sir!!!!!!

I don't have limitless time for partisan politics, sir. Particularly the amoral kind.

I can read and write. A government audit was commissioned and the audit report finally submitted to the GEJ administration by a firm of financial auditors engaged to do the job. The least the GEJ administration can do is to make that report available for citizens of this Republic to read. It is the minimum that will be acceptable. The Businessday link you provided is only accessible to premium members. The Guardian link has the NNPC GMD claiming vindication - he's not exactly a neutral party in this matter. I don't need Thisday or Businessday newspapers or whoever to analyse the report on my behalf. I can read and write!

Some group came out in the press today requesting that the ex-CBN governor apologize for his role in the NNPC saga which led to the audit in the first place. Yet other Nigerians have still not been given free access to the report to draw their own conclusions. Is that best practice? Have you been able to make head or tail of the purported extracts from the audit report in today's Thisday newspapers? . GEJ, MAKE THE REPORT PUBLIC!!!

Anonimi - this is what I said earlier about defending the indefensible. You are proving me right once again.

nku5:
I beg to disagree with you bros.

The essence of this article is to establish the fact that Obasanjo is responsible for whatever ailment Jonathan is battling to rid Nigeria of today and had no moral right to criticise an incumbent who has spent under 5 years.

It was under Obj's ample nostrils that Bin Laden distributed money to some jihadist groups in West Africa in 2002 including Boko Haram, it was under Obj and his demonic privatisation regime that government agencies started selling scratch cards for recruitment, under Obj that $16 Billion was spent on power.

As for corruption, if you can withstand all the propaganda and analyse without emotion, has GEJ's administration been involved in any koro koro case of theft like Obj's Halliburton bribe scandal?

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I am proud to say that I have been a virulent critic of the OBJ administration from day 1. My posting history proves this.

Nothing would give me greater joy than to see both Messrs OBJ and GEJ in the dock answering hard questions from the people of this Republic. I haven't mentioned Mr. Yaradua, (the third member of the triad) only because he is deceased and thus cannot answer any questions.

I understand Mr. OBJ has hatchet men on here who try to whitewash the sepulchre that was his administration. You can rest assured that I am not one of such men.

You say the essence of the article is to establish OBJ's culpability in GEJ's current travails. That may well be true. But those of us ordinary Nigerians on the receiving end of both men's failed governments reserve the right to hold them responsible and denounce them all for their failure. At all times and in whichever medium is available. Including our responses to articles written by Mr. Dikko and any other Nigerian.

The last sentence in your post is deeply troubling. It weakens the resolve of battered, demoralized Nigerians to hold their leaders accountable. You have made an unnecessary distinction between the OBJ administration's mindblowing corruption and that of the GEJ administration. Whose interests will such a distinction serve? As I write this, the GEJ administration is yet to make public the PwC report for Nigerians to see. Make of that what you will.

In the end, we all bleed red.

anonimi:
Thanks a lot for answering my question straight up.

I support Jonathan AGAINST Buhari now just the same way I supported Fashola against Tinubu's gang-up in the run up to 2011 Lagos state elections.

It is about making a pragmatic choice of the BETTER by far of the two main candidates in this election.

I hope I also answered your half-asked question

BTW, I can understand you thinking I am a party hack.
I can endure that in the light of what NEEDS to be done for the salvation of our country from the vultures circling overhead hoping & waiting for us to be nothing but carcass that they can feast on as they did in the not so distant past.


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We are not finished yet.
We will not ever finish so they can feast upon us.
NO!!!

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Thank you for your response, sir. But I don't agree with it.

We are sometimes forced to make pragmatic political choices. I am living in the real world and I accept this truth no matter how inconvenient it may be.

I can understand having to make a choice between two poor options when there are no others. But that isn't even the case in this election. There are at least 9 other presidential candidates. Is none of them worthy?

You will have to explain further this relentless campaigning for the GEJ administration despite well documented evidence of its very serious failings. I cannot understand how you can actively and rabidly support an administration (the GEJ administration, that is) with a history and an entrenched culture of serial malfeasance.

Unless there is something you know which we don't. Is that what your reference to vultures means?

Change2015:
Personally I hold Jonathan culpable for falling into the hands of sycophants, probably because he had no ambition to lead or core philosophy outside from appeasing people with the aid of the national treasury.

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Exactly. Leadership of a cauldron like Nigeria is a serious business fraught with danger. GEJ had a state policy of appeasement which it is now apparent, has failed.

Those dark interests he wished to appease have rejected him. Unfortunately for him, his actions succeeded in alienating quite a number of long suffering Nigerians - ordinary Nigerians whose corner he should have fought from day one. So who is on his side?

If this isn't the road to hell I don't know what is.

anonimi:
How would you relate this to Fashola in Lagos state?

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Exactly the same way. I will be voting against Mr Fashola's party's candidate for governor in next month's election. Just like I voted against Mr. Fashola himself when he ran. I cannot understand how an APC legislator at the federal level can sponsor far reaching, pro-people legislation (the FOI bill) and a governor from the same party will refuse to 'domesticate' the same bill at state level. On what grounds? . This lack of transparency is just one of the many reasons why I will vote against Mr. Ambode and his party in next month's gubernatorial election.

Unlike you, Mr. Anonimi, I am not an online gun for hire. I can and will defend my actions. In one of my posts on a previous thread I asked you to explain how you changed from an advocate of civic duty and responsibility in 2011 to a party hack defending the indefensible in 2015. You have still not answered my question.

It still beats me how you went from what you were before the 2011 elections to what you have become now. But I digress.

I take it I have answered your question about Lagos state. Do you have any more questions?

blackfase:
I just keep wondering how hard it is to generate electricity and give to a country.

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Exactly. Anyone would think that electricity was invented yesterday.

They do these things because they can. And gullible, simple minded Nigerians let them get away with it.

We keep getting excuses - a thousand and one excuses. How hard can it be to generate electricity? How do other countries do it?

Nigerian leaders have the consumption habits of first world citizens but their production habits are fifth world at best.

They drink French wine, drive German automobiles, operate Swiss bank accounts, wear Italian suits, patronize American doctors etc. But they can't generate electricity to lift their people out of poverty.

Nigerians, behold your nakkedness. Until we hold our leaders accountable, deprivation, anger and shame will be our lot.

There isn't much more to add.

I know the hell I went through before I got my prepaid meter. Even now, I suspect the meter may have been fiddled with. But at least I have a meter and the demon of estimated billing has been exorcised from my household. What of the millions like this writer who do not have meters? What happens to them?

After 16 years of the PDP at the helm, what excuse are they going to give for this? At every juncture, the PDP and its agents relentlessly sold and promoted the idea of free markets and privatization of state owned enterprises but the truth is that they do not believe in these concepts . These concepts are just conduits for these morally bankrupt men and women to enrich themselves and their associates. Crony capitalism at its worst.

After 16 years and billions of dollars, we still generate less than 5,000MW and we still rely on estimated billing because Nigerians do not have prepaid meters. The scam surrounding all stages of power production and distribution in this country is the worst kind of grand larceny that a government can perpetrate against its own citizens - this is the legacy of Messrs Olusegun Obasanjo, Umaru Yaradua, Goodluck Jonathan and their self styled biggest political party in Africa!

I hope Nigerians have learned their lesson. We shall see soon enough.

Jokay07:
well, truth be told, if the remaining pdp members can be united and swim against the tide, bet it, they are going to be stronger than before. Apc won't last long with the likes of Tinubu , Atiku and obasanjo. Apc was not founded a as real opposition party, real opposition party in the sense that, it comprises anti-jonathan's government and lack political ideology. How can you talk about change when the people that would bring the change are either adamant dictators or political thieves. A party without common ideology. Apc is a party created by people who are not only greedy but people who are bastardly thirsty for central power and desperate to taste national power. Obasanjo and Tinubu can get together, two rams with huge horns can drink water in the same container. You can imagine, is it possible for Tinubu, obasanjo and Atiku to go together? Yes we are tired of Pdp but the current dispensation of Apc is not the option to choose.. I see Apc as a flour which can be blown away when exposed to wind. Apc is not change but the second version of Pdp. We need New people that will bring new ideas.

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There are other parties!!!

We are not joined at the hip to the two main parties. If they don't meet your requirements then choose another party!

It is rather late in the day for you to come to the conclusion in your write-up above. If not for the postponement, the presidential elections would have been concluded 3 days ago and we would have been talking about the winner now. The points you are making now should have been brought up at least 4 months ago.

Its too late to complain now - unless you intend to sit on the fence and abstain on election day. Which of course means you lose the right to complain if things get worse.

Fair points made by Mr. Dikko. But his analysis is incomplete.

The problem with the GEJ administration is that in essence, it is no different from the old order which needs to be supplanted and which we have been repeatedly told it will supplant.

In Mr. Dikko's piece - as is common with those who support GEJ - the man's modest achievements are loudly promoted while his gravely serious failings are ignored. That is no way to carry out an honest assessment. The choice before GEJ after winning the 2011 election was clear: do something radical about corruption in Nigeria and gain mass appeal/popular support OR maintain the status quo while pretending to transform the way the Nigerian project is being run.

He chose the latter option and he is facing the consequences of that choice. To use the jargon of bank currency dealers: the market has moved against him.

It isn't looking good for him right now.

nduchucks:
That is simple, estimate the number of soldiers you've actually seen perpetrating the irresponsible acts and divide that number by the total number of members of the Armed forces of this great country and you'll start to get the picture. I will not do arithmetic for you, feel free to use this calculator

I am convinced you got my point.

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You are clearly not ready for a sensible debate so I won't go further than this post.

If indeed you have any love or affection (or whatever you want to call it) for your friends in the Forces, you had better tell them to respect their uniforms, their fellow countrymen and most of all, the law.

Your friends drive against traffic (even when they are clearly not on urgent assignment) and endanger the lives of other road users. They do this and claim that they are exempt from traffic rules because they are 'staff'.

Your friends get on public mass transit buses and refuse to pay their fare because they are, you guessed it, 'staff'. Interestingly, they only do this on intra-city bus routes. I am yet to see any military personnel who has gone to an airport and attempted to board a flight to Cairo or Abuja or Jos without paying, because he is 'staff'.

Your friends drive up into filling stations, barge their way to the front of the queue and insist on being served because they are, once again, 'staff'.

Your friends accompany smugglers as escorts in moving cars illegally across Nigeria's borders because they are 'staff' and other law enforcement agents have been intimidated into turning away once they see military uniforms.

I could go on and on, but I'm convinced you get my point. Ditch the hollow, pseudo-patriotic calls for 'support' and tell your friends to obey Nigerian law. Period. Nigerian civilians are not animals to be booted around at will.

Always remember that contempt or derision, like respect, can be mutual.

nduchucks:
I don't think you can back up the assertions in bold above with facts and data. The above in bold is based on emotionalisms crafted from observing the actions of a few soldiers who do not even account for 0.00001% of our real heros. What statistical data was your inference based on? I'm afraid your stipulations above are mere generalizations which could be deemed irresponsible if care is not taken.

Its like saying that all Nigerian Engineers are incompetent because you've encountered the inadequate work of a few Engineers - you see how silly that could be?

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Since you have decided to turn a perfectly reasonable discussion into a pointless statistics masterclass, I just have one request from you: please back up your assertions in bold up there. You say 99.99999% of Nigerian military personnel (real heroes, you call them) do not have the view that their lives are worth more than the lives of civilians. What statistical data is your inference drawn from?

obaayo2:
the life of a soldier is worth 100.civilians.

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You are still a coward.

nduchucks:
I resent the way and manner in which many of the posters on this thread are vilifying soldiers and the Army because of the acts of a few bad apples.

The vast majority of members of our armed forces are brave heros, many of who have died for us in the war against BH and elsewhere. Please single out the thieving Generals and drunk soldiers for insults but celebrate the brave majority of the Soldiers.

May God continue to bless and protect the Soldiers of this great country.

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Unfortunately, the reality of military-civilian interaction in this country largely takes the form described by some of the posters on here. I do not know anything about the particular case being described on this thread and so I cannot comment on it. What I do know is that Nigerians generally avoid confrontation with military personnel because they have a reputation for extreme brutality. Even with these avoidance techniques civilians still have no hiding place. Military personnel all too often go out of their way to provoke a clash with law abiding Nigerians - just to brutalize and dehumanize (or even kill) so called 'bloody civilians' for the sheer hell of it. These are things I have seen with my own eyes. Several times. What are people supposed to do? Melt and dissolve into the ground because soldiers are coming down the road?

Not everyone is out to 'vilify' soldiers as you put it. Even on this very thread, some fellow is claiming that a soldier's life is worth the lives of 100 civilians. Ordinarily we should dismiss such comments as those of a bug eyed online troll but that poster seems to have some military affiliation. Unfortunately for us all, his comments reflect the views of the average Nigerian soldier, whether or not we want to admit it. So far, none of those supporting the military on here have taken that fellow to task for his provocative comments. Why?

ladyabadi:
I for one do not condole voilence on women but looking at the victim in question, her lips tells a lot about her altitude. We ladies sometimes run our mouth like public tap. Who in Nigeria do not know that no one is allowed to work so close to a mere military post. Thats what you get when you do busy body and sharp mouth.

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I don't believe it! Is there something in the air or water this morning??

Her lips tell a lot about her attitude?

What is wrong with people? Have we always been like this?

And you claim to be female too?

I do not even know where and how to begin to describe who or what you are.

Our journey is long. So very long.

obaayo2:
the girl disobeyed and was trying to prove big girl for d guy......if it was me.. I would do better dan d army Guy..Girls of nowadays are soo dumb

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Indeed.

The limit of your machismo is posting photos of men in combat fatigues on your profile and threatening defenceless young women. We are not even 100% sure of what really happened and you are already flexing your non-existent muscles.

Standard issue yellow belly.

Aprime:
Yes, she surely must have done something wrong, but this here a babaric and out-rightly jungle justice.

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I don't know why so many people assume the woman did something to deserve the alleged assault. I have been a witness to several violent confrontations between military people and civilians and I can tell you that 8 times out of 10, the civilians did not do anything wrong. I repeat - the civilians did not do anything wrong.

It is disgusting to see minor disagreements between soldiers/airmen/naval ratings and civilians deteriorate into a violent confrontation, even if the civilian is at fault. It is 1000 times worse when the civilian is not at fault and the military personnel is simply abusing his powers and dishonouring the uniform he wears in the name of his country. Unfortunately, the second scenario is far too common. I have seen these things with my own eyes, far too many times.

We have a long, long way to go.

ritababe:
Tell us the whole story..


I believe she did something thats why they treat her fuckup

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From your profile pic it appears you are female. (Although anybody could claim to be anybody online. ). I just had to take a look to find out how someone claiming to be female could describe the purported assault of another female in such a casual manner.

If indeed you are female then you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. A news story describes the alleged assault of another female and the best you can do is say she must have done something to deserve it.

Take a good hard look at yourself. And clean out that potty mouth while you are at it.

chigoizie7:
Well, u might be right, but were u expecting anyone from PDP to contest the primaries with the sitting president? I am not sure weda it is in the party's constitution never to oppose a sitting governor or president, weda wit the support of the party faithfulls @ the national assembly or not, he is still going to emerge as the flag bearer, the question now should be, will he win without their support? This is what we are yet to find out come march 28 2015, so, coercing them or not is not certain yet. But on the issue of PIB bill? That's a personal interest for all the so called party faithfuls involved. We all knew what happened when many of dem decamped to diff pol parties. National(everybody's interest might not see the light of the with personal interest) my 2cents.

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I'm not sure you understand me.

Jonathan HAS already emerged as his party's flagbearer. The point I am making is this: GEJ secured his party nomination by immediately seeing off the admittedly feeble challenge by Mr. Balewa? and another lady, if my memory serves me well. He eventually ran unopposed and became his party's flagbearer.

There is something deeply wrong if GEJ can secure the support of the party faithful to run for president but he cannot secure the support of the party faithful for signature legislation like the PIB. Can you name one executive sponsored bill in the mould of the PIB that has been pushed by this administration and eventually passed into law? These are the issues.

You have answered a key question (perhaps without meaning to) in the last sentence of your post. Why should anyone support a party whose members elevate personal interest above national interest?

The time for talk and promises has long passed. Let March 2015 come.

chigoizie7:
From my humble opinion, having party faithfuls is not the same as having party greedy faithfuls that worships money and bribe, from the write up, u can see the amount those men makes from the oil blocks, do u think they will not pay(bribe) all those greedy party faithfuls so as to make sure that bill doesn't see the light of the day? Also some of those so called party faithfuls have stakes in the oil blocks, GEJ can't force them to pass the bill, all he needs to do is to wait for that stipulated time(2016) when those blocks will be re allocated weather the bill is passed or not. Na that time u go know say khaki no be leather.

^^^Let's look at this carefully.

In 2014, GEJ was able to coerce the party faithful into backing his run for his party's presidential nomination. Dissenters were immediately whipped into line and GEJ ran unopposed for the primaries last year. He was able to get this done in the pursuit of narrow, partisan political interests. But he was unable to get his party to promptly pass legislation like the PIB - for the good of all Nigerians. In a legislature with a PDP majority. Doesn't that say all that needs to be said?

We are waiting for March...

vikyno:
Which other party aside APC or PDP would you vote for if you vote against any of them? Those are the only main parties we have. Except you wish to waste your votes.

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The arrogance of the 'main' parties is clearly on display here and that arrogance needs to be broken down. It isn't your place to say that a vote for any of the other parties is a waste. It is precisely because the mainstream parties have proved to be shockingly incompetent that Nigerians should consider the others.

You all need to be taken down a peg or two. A few years in the political wilderness would tame the sense of entitlement and the arrogance of these so called main parties.

Next month isn't far. We shall see.

samx4real:
Bro I will advice u let d status quo be till 2019... Then u will see if there might be a change?

In other words! Allow APC to remain in your state & PDP to remain at federal... Just give them just one more chance! Last chance!!

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All this isn't a game to me.

Misgovernance by our so-called leaders has had, and will continue to have very real consequences for all of us, today and tomorrow. If other Nigerians choose to treat these things casually, then that is their problem, not mine.

I have no fellowship with failure and retrogression, be it at the state or federal level. I have never voted, and will never vote for those who do not have my best interests at heart. No.

Let the Ides of March come forward. We are ready.

vikyno:
Why vote APC at the federal level when you knew their weaknesses at the state level?

Your vote is your choice but for me, Ama GEJ man till 2019.

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Re-read my post carefully.

I mentioned the parties I would be voting against and the reasons why. So far I have said nothing, absolutely nothing about who I will be voting for. There is nothing that says I must vote for the APC or PDP at the state or federal level. There are at least half a dozen other parties to choose from.

I also concede you have the right to vote for or against whomever you wish. But facts are facts and they will not be wished away, hence my first post on this thread. The PDP has failed at the federal level and it should go. The APC has failed at the state level (in the state I reside) and it should go.

vikyno:
Tell Fashola and the other APC governors to domesticate the FOI bill first before you cry for another big here.

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I agree with you 100%. That's why I will be voting against the APC at the state level in the polls. The party does not meet my requirements for an open and transparent government of integrity at the state level.

I will also be voting against the PDP at the federal level for the same reason. The PDP does not meet my requirements for integrity, openness and transparency at the federal level.

What are your voting choices?