themonk:


EU never said they dropped basket mouth and basketmouth never said EU dropped him. You know the thing with Nigerians is you guys don not have the skill of discernment, you just talk what you think the next person will want to hear so you can feel powerful when they agree with you.

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So... was he dropped or not?

It will only get worse.

A Miss World beauty pageant was held in Abuja in 2002. Some Nigerian muslims felt offended by the spectacle and seized upon comments made by a journalist - a certain Miss Isioma Daniels - to disrupt the peace. Nigerian Islamic clerics proclaimed a death sentence upon the woman's head. Scores were killed in the violence that followed - ordinary non-muslims who left their homes to earn their daily bread - people who knew absolutely nothing about Miss World contests. They paid for it with their blood.

In September 2005, a cartoonist in far away Denmark did something muslims found provocative. Inexplicably, ordinary Nigerians (trying to survive in very trying circumstances) paid for it with their lives in the violence that followed. Those non-muslims in Nigeria who were just trying to earn their daily bread - ordinary people who couldn't find Denmark on a map if their lives depended on it - they paid for it with their blood.

I could go on and on.

The comments on the prior pages show that the programming and conditioning is almost complete. People who clearly do not know Etinosa Idemudia and who may not necessarily support or endorse her comments (and actions) are already apologizing on her behalf because of very real concerns about their safety. This is not even a case of being found guilty by association - after all, virtually none of these people have any links whatsoever with Etinosa Idemudia. How can people spend their lives atoning for the 'sins' of others? Is this an atmosphere in which to live?

I honestly do not blame Nigerian muslims who have made it their life's work to spill blood at will. They are focused on the objectives they want to achieve and they are resolute. They know what they want and are prepared to get it by any means necessary. My contempt is for the brain dead, feeble minded non-muslims of Nigeria who continue to excuse (through sheer inertia) the slaughter under the dubious legitimacy of a malevolent shared nationhood - a so called federation "bound in freedom". Even newly born lambs have a better sense of self preservation.

Very good.

Nigeria's contradictions are on full display on this thread.

Yet again, and perhaps without meaning to, someone (in this case, a certain Miss. Etinosa Idemudia) is forcing Nigerians to confront their demons.

The first few pages of this thread were full of worried comments by several posters that innocent people (who have absolutely nothing to do with Etinosa Idemudia or what she said) could pay with their lives for her comments (and/or future actions). Those fears are not unfounded. After all, there's precedent here.

This young lady's comments (thoughtless, misguided or not) have thrown up some questions which we do not want to answer. But answer them we must. Not for the first time, we ask: What kind of country is it in which hundreds (or thousands) can so easily and casually become collateral damage for someone else's comments?

Those people on previous pages who expressed genuine concern (and with good reason too) about their safety must accept this inconvenient truth: They do not have a country. That is the simple, yet awful truth.

The sooner they realize this, the better.

You don't change engine oil, transmission oil and brake oil before every long trip - unless they were already due for a change to begin with.

The owners manual is there to guide you!

Not sure if there are mandatory mileage requirements for brake fluid drain and refill for most vehicles. Brake fluid is typically changed every 24 to 48 months (or perhaps slightly longer) for most passenger vehicles. It is not changed before every long trip - unless upon inspection there is something clearly wrong.

Same thing for transmission fluid. ATF change intervals (both by time and mileage) vary considerably from vehicle to vehicle. It is not changed before every long trip - again unless upon inspection there is evidence of something seriously wrong.

Same thing for motor oil.

Save your money for the stuff which does break and which you can't run away from.

Is this engine an 18 valve six cylinder?

Interesting letter. Some interesting points made.

Some online pens for hire on this board are trying to turn truth on its head. So there's nothing wrong with this governor's failure to appoint commissioners 6 months into the life of the administration?

ruggedtimi:
who do africa this thing?

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LordOfSamosa:
I'm depressed

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jaychubi:
This is what u get when u don't wind down to greet red cap village elders bc u get car.

Back to square one

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Mikeparlo12:
How do you wanna encourage a child to go to school with all this nonsense

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To think I was the first to use the phrase "lion kings" on this platform...

I should have trademarked it and forced all other users to pay me royalties...on this forum at least...

For the OP and others like him who have the same question - think carefully about what matters most to you in a car. Is is the styling? Handling? Ergonomics? Performance? Ride Comfort? Reliability? Fuel economy? Resale value? Build Quality? Fit and finish? Running costs? The list is almost endless.

Choose the car which ticks the boxes which matter most to you. Just make sure your choice is an informed one. Also remember that some of the things mentioned above are objective and can be measured while others are not.

That's all.

plaindealer:
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I said the man was never charged with any crime, he was never convicted or arraigned in any court of law, but this one is shouting forfeiture all over the place?

If forfeiture is your problem, go and start your own topic or ask other people about forfeiture, I made my claim so if you have your own facts to dispute my claim that he was never charged with any crime and was never arraigned or convicted in any court of law, show it or stop quoting me.

What is annoying is you yapping on and on about what I wasn't talking about, the point I made is still up there, read and comprehend.

If you want to argue with me, argue based on what I said or asserted, not based on whatever rubbish you keep repeating, go to other people with that, I'm not interested.

Is it by force?

^^^^


You are a broken man.

Unlike the other thread, this time you decided to stay and fight. But the outcome hasn't changed.

Your MO on this thread is the same as the other one (that is, before you fled that thread). Deflect, deflect and deflect some more - in the vain hope that you can divert attention from the substantive issues. That won't work here. The truth has made us free indeed.

My work here is done. Anyone who wants to can check the plainsite pages and draw their own conclusions. Or is the plainsite website fake, sir?

djdutchbrah:

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I don't know the lady or gentleman who posted the above info referencing plainsite. If he/she passed me on the street I wouldn't know who he/she was. But the info provided is changing things on this thread.

Plaindealer, would you care to respond to the information he/she has so graciously provided?

djdutchbrah:

Look at he court order for the 460k forefeiture. America has public records for forfeitures by courts for heroin trafficking.

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So Plaindealer...is the above post fake news?

plaindealer:
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Was I talking about forfeiture when you quoted me?

Why is reading and comprehension such a huge challenge for you people?

Are you dumb or just paying dumb?

I said the man was never charged with any crime, he was never convicted pr arraigned in any court of law, but this one is shouting forfeiture all over the place?

If forfeiture is your problem, go and start your own topic or ask other people about forfeiture, I made my claim so if you have your own facts to dispute my claim that he was never charged with any crime and was never arraigned or convicted in any court of law, show it or stop quoting me.

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Striking out the words in my post doesn't change anything. My words are still there and can still be read by all so what's the point?

The name calling and derogatory references show quite clearly that you are losing the argument. You need to stop the violence.

Clear the smoke oozing out your ears and nostrils and re-read what I wrote. Slowly. This matter will be settled by logic and reason - not hormonally driven, emotional outbursts.

My point is simple. I accepted (for now) your assertion that your principal was never charged, arraigned or convicted for any crimes by a foreign country. You also denied knowledge of any forfeiture of assets by your principal to the authorities of a foreign country. I pressed you on this matter of forfeiture and you maintained your position. QED. So where is the anger coming from?

Save your strength - you're going to need it. Cognitive dissonance really does wreak havoc on the mind and the body and that's exactly what's happening here - your fierce defence of an ethically challenged principal - a man with a huge moral deficit - is proving too hard for you to do.

Just confirm whether that docket (in which your principal is referred to as 'the defendant') put up by another poster is real or fake.

I have yielded the floor. No further questions for now.

I yield the floor to those with the evidence to come forward. It may take a while but we know it exists.

The clock starts now...

plaindealer:



I don't know about forfeiture, I asserted that he was never charge with any drug crime, he was never convicted for any crime and he was never charged with any wrong doing or arraigned in any court of law.

If you have any objection to the above comment, please show your facts.

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Ok.

According to you, he was never charged, arraigned or convicted for any crime. Fair enough.

And you are also saying on record that you know absolutely nothing about asset forfeiture concerning him, right?

OK.

OkCornel:


This is ideal and spot on. This is what differentiates progressive countries from retrogressive ones.


A nation cannot move forward if the leaders and the followers consistently makes ignorant and wrong decisions. Every decision has its ripple effects on immediate and future realities.


The sad case about Nigeria is that sound reasoning has taken a leave of the senses of the majority. Critical decisions are often left to the whims of mindless politics, emotional outbursts, religious blindness, tribalism and ethnic bigotry.


I pray tell, how can Nigeria move forward with most people having that kind of mindset?

It’s sad.

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It is what it is.

The future looks bleak. That is my honest assessment. I hope I am proved wrong - but I am not a believer in the "triumph of hope over experience" school.

Time will tell.

plaindealer:


I don;t know, but feel free to educate me.

You obviously know more than me so please educate me by showing us the crime he was charged with, his appearance in any court in the US, how he was convicted for any wrong doing.

Do that please.

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I don't know what happened either. I have heard 'things' but i wanted to hear from you - since you seem to know so much about the man.

Is it true he forfeited some money to the US government some years ago? Surely you must have heard this story. And you probably got to the bottom of it like any true loyalist would, right? So is the story true or false?

And please don't leave me hanging like you did on the other thread. I asked you some questions about transparency in LASG business and you left the thread - and never came back.

I'll be waiting...

rexwalters:
Jagaban is our mentor, but having more power and influence than Otedola, Dangote, and Michael Adenuga combined, my hands are shaking, you must be economically and politically insane?

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Fire at will, sir.

Identify the corpses later.

plaindealer:



Unfortunately for you, Tinubu has more power and influence than all the people you listed combined.

How hard is it for a powerful man like Tinubu to own and operate any business in Nigeria?

If ordinary Nigerians can walk into any bank into any bank to source business loan to start or buy any business, do you think a powerful and influential man like Tinubu can not?

Why do you people think Tinubu is on the same broke and poor level like you?

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Classic case of friendly fire between you and the fellow you quoted.

I am not a very religious man but I can't help but remember scripture that talks about confusion in the camp of the enemy...

babaolofin:


Tinubu was a major financier of NADECO and some other pro democracy group during Abacha era. During this period, Tinubu enemies said he was a drug baron, writing petitions to US government to investigate him .Till date, nothing is found.

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I have no interest in the partisan politics and the ethnic rivalry referenced in the rest of your post and so that bit has been left out. The interesting part is what's highlighted up here.

Would you care to explain a bit more about the petitions? Some canaries are singing about some "funds forfeiture to the US government" or something like that. Care to elaborate?

plaindealer:


Tinubu was never charged with any drug smuggling crime or convicted based on any drug charges, that's ignorance on your part.

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Ok...

Not holding brief for the fellow you are discussing with..but your comment got me interested.

So what happened between Tinubu and "Uncle Sam"?

To think Sagay once was a social critic whose commentary carried some weight...

Damn shame...

If any one has any info on Mr. Boyo's published works, authorized biography, etc. kindly post details here. My web search hasn't come up with anything useful. Thanks.

OkCornel:


One million likes for this!

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Almost 30 years ago, Olisa Agbakoba asked, (in response to an interviewer's questions on the Babangida administration's management of the economy): "What is Babangida's qualification in economics?"

That question is still pertinent today.

Running an economy is serious business. If a country's leaders do not know (or care) how a modern economy works (or should work) then disaster is inevitable. The fallout is more severe when it is a third fifth world country with weak, decaying institutions. Like Nigeria.

Professors of economics in Nigerian universities are wasting time and destroying their reputations by allowing themselves to be used (as so called returning officers) in endorsing fraudulent, sham elections - like the ones held in Bayelsa and Kogi last week. The time spent on all that rubbish would be better spent in forming pressure groups to insist that literacy (and hands on experience!) in economics and finance must be a prerequisite to leadership in this country.

But like I said earlier, this is fantasy on my part. Nigerians do not yet fully understand that actions and choices have consequences. The pain will rise to unbearable levels - as the economy continues to falter and stumble from one dead end to the next. Perhaps we will learn an unforgettable lesson this way.

Or perhaps not.

Not one Nigerian president has had formal training (up to degree level) in economics and finance. Not a single one.

It is inevitable that all of them are held hostage to advisers of all kinds - and government policy choices then become a matter of whoever has the president's ear. Unfortunately, all too often, advisers (in and out of government) with sinister motives win the war of influence. The result? Disastrous policy choices with severe real world consequences - mass suffering, widespread poverty, misery and death.

Imagine the possibilities that could open up with a president who can comfortably hold his own against the army of economic advisers, technocrats, bureaucrats etc. (and the vested interests they represent) that he must work with. A president who actually has an economic policy agenda he designed (or helped design) from the ground up - and not one he passively received from so called 'advisers'. In summary, someone who knows what he's doing.

But this is all wishful thinking on my part. Nigerians have chosen their leaders and they must live with the consequences of those choices.

RIP, Mr Boyo.

Aparche:
Here is a quick Riddle

I am country,
My citizens can gather so fast & lynch a person in the middle of the road without being afraid of police.

But once a person collapses on the same road, my citizens will avoid that person, mind their business and suddenly become afraid of police.

What kind of country am I?

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Funny and sad at the same time.

Our road is long.

efficiencie:


Have you experienced the police before? I guess not. Police can lock up a community if you test them. I have experienced this first hand. Police do not have any limit to the number of persons they can victimize provided they are commoners...you should experience the police first before commenting about what they can or cannot do!

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You asked me a question and then answered it yourself. Why bother asking then?

For the record, I have had quite a few interactions with the police. The cases involved fraud, shooting, road traffic accidents and armed robbery. I have written statements at police stations in a number of states across the country.

So far I have not been locked up. That may change tomorrow. I cannot tell.

Another poster spoke about how several people banded together in a case like this to prove to the police that there was no foul play on their part.

I understand that some people may have had a nasty experience while trying to be their brother's/sister's keepers. But that shouldn't be used to discourage others who want to do the right thing.

It can be done.

To those licking their lips at the prospect of lion meat - there is nothing tasty there. Its all tough, sinewy muscle with very little fat. The meat of carnivores sitting at the top of the food chain generally doesn't taste nice. And then there's the 'small' matter of having to first track, catch and kill these powerful, dangerous predators.

Even if there is some debate on whether that lion cub there (definitely not up to two years old by the way) could (easily) kill an adult male human, it definitely could, at the very least, maim him for life. Those carnassials are not there for ornamental reasons.

Respect nature. We humans are easily, pound for pound, one of the weakest species on the planet. Stripped of all the things that the human brain has created to give man an advantage - the average man wouldn't stand a chance against most wild animals.

Interesting pictures.

The predator does look like a king cobra - they are the ones known to feed almost exclusively on other snakes - other cobras prey on rodents and other smaller animals. It appears this cobra was discovered (and then killed) while swallowing the python - feeding time is when snakes are most vulnerable.

The only thing missing is the chevrons usually found on king cobras - these are conspicuously absent on this specimen. Not sure why.

3kay945:


I disagree. It still have to do with religion. Nigeria are bunch of hypocrites.
Let 10 people gather to help her to hospital , there is nothing police can do when greater number of people testifying.

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My thoughts exactly. Will the police lock up everyone?

We can't continue like this.