rusher14:


Your country is a poor country and you must accept it.

I really dislike people who only see problems but cannot profer solutions.

Now I ask you, considering our present situation, how do you instigate growth?

How do you facilitate development?

What recipe do you have for Nigeeia of today?

Please dont give me theories but practical steps.

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Fair enough.

We can start with the public expenditure profile.

The wages, emoluments, estacodes etc. of public servants is where a good chunk of the money is getting lost. And the most egregious examples are found in both the executive and the legislature.

Reform this part of government and see what happens.

Public sector budgeting in Nigeria is a joke, full stop. We go through the charade of budget preparation, presentation, assent etc. every year. How come there isn't a federal budget review (with the same level of publicity) the following year to see compliance levels?

rusher14:


I'm just looking at all the follow follow we have in Nigeria.

PDP virtually had no opposition for 16 years but what did they give us?

They plunged us into a 63 billion dollar debt but no one said anything, even in times of oil boom.

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That isn't true and you know it.

So many of us on here DID speak at length about the graft and directionlessness of the PDP years. The threads are there for anyone who wants to check. And that's precisely why we have the moral standing to speak out about the same problems in the current administration.

No point trading one failed administration for another. No point whatsoever.

GoodGovernance:


Stupidity is when you think independence means antagonism.

How does approval of a loan for the benefit of all Nigerians equate to rubber stamping.

Even the worst economists know that the loan is inevitable for Nigeria to develop infrastructure.

That is the only short term option available,other than immediate and unconditional increase in income tax.The long term option is to organically grow our revenue base.

Nigeria can not afford to wait for only the long term solution.Both short and long term options must go pari pasu.


Those who still think a lower debt burden with low infrastructure,is better than a high debt burden with high infrastructure,need their brain re-examined.

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This country is no stranger to foreign borrowing. Every failed government in this country says the same thing: we need foreign borrowing to fund infrastructure.

Why should anyone believe the Buhari administration? Other administrations said more - and look how that ended.

rusher14:


Stop being sentimental.

How do you think productivity is boosted?

By wishing it to happen?

You were not unhappy about a 63 billion dollar debt when we should have been saving but you are unhappy about a potential 30 billion dollar debt because the people asking for it are not your choice.

You prefer the thieves that cant point to what they've done with 63 billion dollars but hate the ones that can show you what they've done with 15 billion dollars.

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Care to elaborate on the part set in bold font? I am very much interested in what was spent and by whom.

rusher14:


Yes Indeedy.

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I am surprised.

juman:
I think so far he is doing well.
The leadership of the national assembly and the executive are in the same party.
That help them to harmonise their agendas.

But buhari senselessly disregard courts orders should be tackled.

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They are putting party above country. To be blunt they are putting personal interests above country.

This country is going back to the era of the 1980s. The SAP years and the foreign debt incurred (both from that era and the profligate era of the 1970s) put this country in serious trouble. It took years of untold suffering for Nigerians to clearly understand that the debt trap is something to avoid - at all costs.

If the legislature simply approves any request from the executive - without the scrutiny that it is constitutionally required to carry out - then our 'democracy' is broken.

rusher14:
Impeach him na.

Or can you explain to us how David Mark ans his co-travellers x-rayed every item for years, by so-doing leading us to the glorious nation we have become.

Wailers.

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Is this the rusher14 of old?

Malawian:
I watched a video of a massive column of foreigners matching into the country from somewhere in the north on facebook yesterday.
For over 30 mins, you could see them on one side of the road and as far as the eyes could see, trouping in while the locals were just looking like it was some kind of movie being acted before their eyes. Men of fighting ages.

War is coming..

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Link?

iamloyalty:


Black Stone works. It is very effective against all form of poison, Google it.

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A google search of the term "black stone" throws up info about the Kabba in Mecca but I wager that wasn't what you had in mind.

The wonder of the black stone is simply capillary action at work. Its efficacy in treating envenomation seems highly doubtful. The reference below may be helpful.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18180213

Far too many comments mocking the penis size of men of Chinese origin...far too many...

The "genitally challenged" men from that part of the world have built some stable and prosperous societies - in Japan, South Korea and Singapore for example. And the Chinese are the next super power headed for complete world domination in the 21st century. It is inevitable.

Meanwhile...some people from another part of the world brandish their 'donkey sized' members at every opportunity - as if that is adequate compensation for their broken, dysfunctional societies. To them - what's the point in having a country that works? After all, my phallus hangs lower than my knee caps - and that's all that really matters in the end, non?

Rubbish.

healthserve:



Well done. I hope you know 80% of cassava contain cyanoids and chemicals that are even twenty times more dangerous than snakes. Probably you ate an edible cassava but you came here to say eat just any cassava. I hope you know raw cassava is pure death wrapped in a tuber?

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adakoleagbenu:



Was actually waiting for someone to mention Black Stone.

when I was in boarding school which was of course surrounded by bushes as is d case in Nigeria, snake bites and scorpion sting were quite common . all these anti venom no dey available. A friend brought out the black stone in our presence when snake bit a hostel mate he told the guy not to move, he put the black stone on it and told us it was from Jerusalem. the black stone stuck on the guys leg, drawing the poison. it refused to remove until it drew all poison and fell down itself. the guy gradually felt better. the other guy now dipped the black stone in liquid milk to wash it. we saw the poison come out of the black stone, discolouring the milk water. that because the remedy for us

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This is capillary action at work.

There is no such thing as stones from 'Jerusalem' that draw venom.

obailala:
Who told you there are no mambas in Nigeria?.... Those devils are all over the place, the black mambas specifically. I call them devils because unlike other snakes that only attack when threatened and cornered, black mambas will actually come for you unprovoked, and if you dare provoke them, they chase after you for long distances. They can be extremely fast. Those things are nothing but demons.

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Interesting.

They are not native to this environment - that's for sure.

I haven't seen any myself or heard from any one who has actually had an encounter with one (and I've had a few run-ins with juvenile rock pythons, forest cobras, puff adders and the ubiquitous (non-venomous) green snakes (forgotten the scientific name) found across Nigeria).

Throw in a bit more info pls

Tpave:
Yeah. My neighbor was bitten by snake in the night while trekking a bushy path. The first aid given to him was kerosene before being taken to the nearest clinic. He eventually survived it

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The kerosene wasn't the antidote.

There are a couple of possible reasons your neighbour survived:

1. The snake wasn't venomous.
2. The snake was venomous but delivered a "dry bite".

Kerosene had nothing to do with it. Ingesting kerosene will only cause more serious harm.

omenka:
In the entire picture, I saw TWO persons besides Oluomo. Even the Executive positions in the Association is way more than TWO. Thread title surely doesnt look anything like the pictures.

Now, Look at the number of posts you have made over an innocuous event such as this, just like the rest of your brothers.

I wonder what exactly is you people's problem?

When will you people start having the same sort of erections over the rot in your enclave? Why are you lot so obsessed with whatever happens in the SW? Is Oluomo responsible for whatever happens in iboland?

Why the hurt? Why the concern? Why?

How does Mc Oluomo affect how anything happens in your villages? How does he affect how the governors or local government chairmen or councillors perform? How does he affect what traders sell or dont sell in your place? How does he affect what artisans fabricate or don't?

Ordinarily a thread such as this shouldnt even garner up to 30 comments because the Yorubas would see it is what it is, NOTHING. But you guys would rather storm such threads in droves and start insulting and cursing over God-knows-what. And when you guys do that, South Westerners would have to push back! Four pages and counting. Wtf.

Who did this to you people really? This is just beyond human comprehension.

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Utter nonsense.

You've been trolling for years. You should be tired by now - surely you've outgrown all this?

Post something that actually adds to the discussion. You can do it.

infogenerator:
So much hatred... Coming from those who doesn't even know NURTW needs a well organised workforce..... This tout has more drive, dream and foresight than 90% of the "educated" fellows on this forum.... Ask yourself who runs the world.... "educated fellows" or dream chasers?.... Cause all I see in this photo is a dream chaser!

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This isn't 'hatred' as you term it. People are just tired of the lies and deception and they are making their voices heard. That's all there is to it.

Seek the truth and it shall make you free. The NURTW and its 'leadership' is not what you are making it out to be here. And what is it with all this talk about dream chasing? Which dreams did the fellow in the photo chase?

Polyglot:


NURTW provides the practical life education of how to move from grass to grace.
Formal Recognition and Reorientation will give Nigeria practical leaders that can provide employment opportunities for our youths.
Motor park is a global village where you can get anything needed for daily livelihood.

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This praise singing of NURTW doesn't ring true.

And what do you mean by "formal recognition and reorientation"?

solmusdesigns:


only pussies and soccer mum drives volvo.. and only pussies think i am trolling

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Web and graphics design indeed.

You have hurled insults at virtually everyone who has called you out - for your weird defence of a very unsavoury character. Which real business person does that?

Tell the truth. What do you really do?

solmusdesigns:




MC Oluomo is very generous, the guy works like a politician, he makes friends with anybody and helps who ever seeks his assistance especially when you are being intimidated

While some ShoutYeasteners hate the guy for unknown reasons, he heads one of the trade union with the highest employers and employee in nigeria, what he contributes to our economy through tax (hackney permits, vehicle lisence renewal etc) many online dunce talking trash cant contribute it,


*You call him tout, but dont have a car and rely on the busses of his members then you are a big fool

*If your personal income tax is lesser than what drivers pay annually as tax then you are very foolish with the useless degree you have


..

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You are pandering and trolling at the same time...and doing a poor job of it too.

middlebelter:


This is a lady that prevailed on the 8th assembly to conduct a public hearing on Ajaokuta Iron and Steel Industry broadcast nationally on NTA and the the Minister of Mines,Iron and Steel ,now Governor of Ekiti state didn't attend the public hearing and failed to send a representative.

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The people of Kogi State made their electoral choices last November and they will live with the consequences. That's all I have to say about the election.

The public hearing on Ajaokuta is another example (out of so many) of why the future looks very bleak for this country. That clip should be required 'hearing' for all Nigerians and for Kogi state indigenes in particular.

Successive Nigerian governments sold millions of Nigerian children into poverty, want, deprivation and slavery when they refused to complete that steel complex. And yet the main actors in these failed administrations got away with it with no consequences whatsoever. They are all free men who have not been held accountable for the treason they committed.

Not a single public enterprise from that era of the last century exists today. Where is National Fertilizer Company of Nigeria (NAFCON)? Where is the Aluminum Smelter Company of Nigeria (ALSCON) whose technical partners/consultants (Ferrostal) also left in cloudy circumstances just like the Russians did? Where is the Ajaokuta Steel Complex (ASC)?

Young people in Nigeria would rather watch Big Brother Nigeria/Africa, La Liga or UK Premiership football instead of the things that really matter. Those public enterprises I listed up there were supposed to provide jobs for Nigerians. Today, they are nothing but footnotes in history books. And yet Nigerian youths have nothing to say or do about this. Nigerian youths are not interested in history. They are not interested in politics. They are not interested in government. They are not interested in ethics. They are not interested in civics. They will not vote in elections (or when they do, they vote against their interests ) and yet they are angry that the country has gone to hell.

A country gets the leadership it deserves. The "wasted generation" has failed miserably by its own admission - it clearly cannot help itself. And if that generation cannot save itself, how can it save others? If the younger generation - a generation that has known nothing but dystopia from the very beginning - does not take charge of its future, there will be nothing left here in the next half century.

post=84672263:

Here is a President...he was in detention for THREE (3) good years, all because he fought corruption and trying to savage Nigeria,

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Freudian slip?

faceland:

It is bullshit that public safety is threatened by this. In an ideal country, that is not supposed to be... In an ideal country, armed robbers are not supposed to kill people to take their hard earn money too. Do I go to an armed robber and tell him, "it is my constitutional rights to walk freely and not give you my money?

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This discussion is going nowhere.

I have been as clear and concise as possible in laying out my points. If you still don't get it then I'm afraid there's nothing more I can do.

Do have a good day, sir.

faceland:
I see your point but we can address those issues without first provoking the spilling of innocent blood.

Just for the sake of those might be caught up in shit they don't know about.

You can't go to China and criticize the government, you know what would happen. You can't go to Saudi and blaspheme, or import kiligrames of marijuna to both countries, you know what would happen. She knows what would follow. You can be an idealist or a realist. I prefer to see matters as they truly are.

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No Sir.

My point is very clear. I will repeat it as many times as necessary. And I am not being unnecessarily idealistic, as you put it.

As far as I am aware, I am not in any way provoking the spilling of innocent blood. Etinosa Idemudia's speech and actions have nothing to do with me. I don't know her. She is not my representative in any shape or form. If I passed her on the street today I wouldn't recognize her. I will repeat again: It is nothing but insanity for some muslims to begin to threaten public safety or order because of what she has said or done. If those angry muslims met me on the road on some sunny Friday afternoon (after their clerics had sufficiently amped up the situation) they would probably have no problem slitting my throat or beheading me. Where does anyone even begin to unravel the mentality behind such?

This has been the template for over one third of a century in this country. Some Nigerian muslims take offence at some transgression or infraction and then begin to plunder, maim and kill at will. And invariably their targets are ordinary Nigerians whose only 'crime' is that they were going about their business, trying to make an honest living in very trying circumstances. There are several examples: The Denmark cartoon saga. The Miss World saga. The Gideon Akaluka saga. I could go on and on. For how long will non-muslims in Nigeria continue to apologize just for existing?

Your references to Saudi and Chinese government policies on speech and narcotics trafficking are not the same thing as what we are discussing here - and you know it. How are they in any way related?

radautoworks:


The teenager class is something my husband really wants to do. That's how he started out in Jamaica. Same challenges then. Mechanics had no respect and it was looked down on. Noone considered it a viable option. People don't know how technical it actually is. Not everyone can be a lawyer, doctor or engineer. This is a good career path for a lot of people. If a child shows interest, it will be a good foundation for them to go on from.

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Very very true.

If I could turn back time I would have enrolled in mechanic school years ago. Too late now.

These machines (cars, air conditioners, fridges, computers, printers, toasters, TVs, hifi, etc.) will still be with us for a while. Even if you don't choose to repair these things for a living, having the know how is a win on all counts. Saves you money and time fixing your own stuff. Makes you money if you decide to turn it into a career. Gives you the satisfaction of using your brain and your hands in a way that most desk bound, white collar workers will never experience. Yes the labour can be back breaking and you'll inhale more solvents than you can name but it beats being a bank clerk.

Good job coming through with the classes for those young women. It really could be the beginning of a lifelong journey for at least some of them.

RIP, Mr. Chris Hanen.

Journey well...

faceland:
If she do it, and innocent people are killed, it might take 10 or 20 years, but one day (even I would attempt her life for intentionally putting innocent people's life at risk, knowing fully well what those hopeless bloody fundamentalist would do).

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You have this whole thing completely upside down.

Look at the potential sequence of events carefully as you have laid them out. Etinosa Idemudia starts off by offending Nigerian muslims with her speech and her actions. These offended muslims vent their anger by hinting darkly at the possibility of maiming or murdering non-muslim bystanders who had absolutely nothing to do with Etinosa's actions. Is that reaction not repulsive to you?

Instead of resisting the decision of these people to turn you into collateral damage in a matter you know nothing about, you have passively accepted your status as fodder. By your own admission, those who would so casually kill innocent bystanders are "hopeless bloody fundamentalists" and yet you would rather expend your energy (even if it takes 20 years) on killing Etinosa if she were to somehow escape death in all this? Where do you even begin to explain how you came up with such?

Can you see where you have got it wrong?

Crazy thread.

peepydelano:
when your actions portray evil and you begin to rant for fear of the consequences, then you are the real evil,how many times have you seen Muslims manhandle the Bible not to talk of coming public about it, they stay on their own peacefully, it is usually the other religion that always trespass and go out of their boundary to cause trouble, still they will be the first to shout and rant all over.Hypocrites.

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What is "the other religion"?

hyperflex:


Freedom is sweet until it leads to chaos. Enjoy it

That slogan isn't a sound argument, sir.

My point is very clear and I will make it again: Each individual has agency.

It makes no sense if aggrieved muslims make subtle and not so subtle threats to public order and safety because of the speech and actions of a private individual. Is Etinosa Idemudia acting on your behalf or mine? Why then should you or me (or anyone else) suffer loss on her account?

When will it end? There is not and will never be a shortage of things for people to get offended about. Will you cower in fear for your safety each time any other random non-muslim (whom you don't know from Adam) is considered to have spoken or acted out of turn?

Do you understand now?

hyperflex:
If religious or even ethnic violence starts a lot of social media youths will suffer cuz most don’t have survival instincts. All you know is to work, make money, Bleep and party. Whether u believe in a God or not the blowback will affect both atheists and religious.

Let’s have sense please. Nigeria is not so settled. Don’t think because you’re in Lagos nothing will happen.

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Take a close look at the key issues here.

The question that should be asked is why comments by one Etinosa Idemudia should lead to religious or ethnic violence on anyone else. Why should comments by this woman cause me or anyone else to suffer loss in any way? Does that make any sense?

Etinosa Idemudia is not my representative in any shape or form. I do not necessarily approve of or endorse her actions. But there is absolutely no reason on this earth for those who feel insulted by her speech or actions to take out their anger on me or anyone else with these veiled threats. That is pure insanity.

There are proper channels for people to express their grievances. Not this.

For us to even talk about this shows how low we have sunk.

CrimeKsmart:


I can predict your tribe with the kind of hate you carry about Islam up and down. Yoruba Christians dnt behave like this only the igbo Christians make this kind of submission.

Why can't you just love your Christianity instead of trying by all means to dent the image of other people's religion.

If Islam encourages killing and slaughtering of other people who do not practice Islam, then Christians can never be found where Muslims are the majority.

Sometimes you just need your brain to process some lies/propaganda before you swallow it

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This doesn't add up.

The fellow you quoted said nothing about ethnicity. It adds nothing to this discussion.

Stick to the main issue - the implied threat of violence in this cleric's comments.

Unless...this is just high level trolling on your part...