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It's commonsense that if you keep on replying to your mention then you are not too busy for NL. Or may be you are addicted. That's all I meant

Image123:
i can relate with 'busy'. It is commonsense. One may easily read or even post/reply one or two lines or even more on a mobile device or at work or during traffic/transport. It is a little different front sitting at a computer, ready to open a thread or discuss at length as you would want to, with the colors, quotes, scripture search, links etc. It can apply to anyone.

Image123,
I have been forced to conclude that some people here are kids in grownups' bodies but still I hold them responsible for EVERY idle word they shoot just like I m responsible for my posts. A few posts ago I wondered why you were posting Goshen360's thread with private information under the guise of helping him clean up. I was corrected by the actual culprit Gombs and I promptly apologized.

When mbaemeka whether by divination or meditation or hallucination makes outrageous claims, expect me to wave it in his face and I don't expect him or anybody else to be ashamed. He has claimed to be a goD and I have thoroughly tested that claim. Why is it a big deal if I refer him as goD? vooks is no goD but a mere man and I would be insane to throw tantrums over being called a man Next ludicrous claim is that EXCEPT/UNLESS he consents to Jesus plans to take him home, he ain't goin nowhere. So the only thing standing between him and immortality is his consent .

Why would he propose a violent way of checking out of this world for me? Was it out of love or a fit of infantile rage? He is a goD and you know power of death and life is in the tongue. He was clearly wishing me death. He went further and proposed death by suicide. I nearly died from the joke

And never forget they are ever reminding BabaGnoni of what he said back in April and they don't mind interjecting that in some totally unrelated threads. Am a fast learner and I just reciprocated their 'kindness' I must say that it is hard keeping up with them

Image123:
To be fair, i read that link and i do not think mbaemeka wished you death. You've being busy trying to push him to the wall to the best of my knowledge. You always come up with snidely addressing him as god, having to ask him permission to die etc. i'm aware his church teaches that christians are gods according to Psalm 82 and John 10:34, and also the greater is He that is in me quote. But for you to at every opportunity try to logically force it and make unnecessary remarks. He simply left you to yourself. Like if you don't believe you can conquer death or escape death, then do the other side and stop bugging me. Anyway, na two of you get matter but that's what i saw their, no wishes.

Ok, am a dog

Bidam:
You just confirmed how super lazy you are.Run along puppy.

Busy boy is still here churning out garbage

Bidam:
A super lazy son of belial.

You are under no obligation to share your faith,especially the embarrassing aspects of the same. I agree, but you have double rights to being ashamed over the same.

Thousands are from the views of the thread. There was much to learn from the (non)sense you spewed in a spirited defense of man made traditions chief among them that they are indefensible

Image123:
You talk too much for a man. You're free to your opinions on what i do. I'm not under any obligations to answer to you. The tithe thread had its story and reason. i don't know how you managed to arrive at figures of the thousands i helped, do you work for the Nigerian government? You share a knack for churning out stuff from the nostrils.

And just to add,
Exactly what is he telling the pastor when he calls? Am on it, I will pay tomorrow by noon.......?
This is a dishonest negro

jdilight:
Was he intimidated to making the promise? If no, its a pity. Now if the vow was to build the church, it has a time frame. After the church has been completed and he brings the money, it becomes useless. It is important we do things within our capacity and not to get praise from people around.

Oga Jacob vowed to tithe conditionally. Hannah vowed to dedicate Samuel IF/WHEN she got him. We're they faithless, especially Hannah?
There is no need for vowing to do what you can pay, just do it! And if you can't pay, then tell God to give you and you will pay....conditional

Oduduwaboy:
You belong to the faithless generation if you only vow what you can pay! You are not learning anyrhing in church ; get out of the place.

BusyBody Bidam, extremely idlelatrous

Bidam:
Tokens of liars. How are you descendant of nimrod?

You are the most dishonest thing I ever ran into. You won't admit that Hagin debunked Firstfruits

You accuse BabaGnoni of stuff you can't proof except shoot off your rear
Mbaemeka accuse me of error without proof
Am least surprised; some goDs denied divorce rumors for months

Here is your leader goD mbaemeka wishing me death

mbaemeka:
^^^^
Keep looking for my attention like the philosophers stone or better still get yourself killed in a car crash or something and leave those of us who have refused to be subject to the whims of the devil- the same one you seek to support (albeit unbeknownst to you).

https://www.nairaland.com/1892195/truth-behind-christ-embassy-healing/33#27030827

Gombs:
[KJV] 2 Corinthians 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.


Honesty precede everything! Paul knew as much!

Why should I discuss with dishonest folks? Solomon knew better too

[NLT] Proverbs 2:7 He grants a treasure of common sense to the honest. He is a shield to those who walk with integrity.

Hello busybody

Bidam:
The quiet words of the wise are more to be heeded than the SHOUTS OF A RULER OF FOOLS.

The biggest error is to imagine that prosperity gospel is meant to make you rich. It is purely for tithe collectors. 1 out of 1 probability they NEVER go wrong with this doctrine. They make money whether it works or not.

If I was Oyedepo, I'd sow my four jets and reap four hundred

Nonsense.
1.What's the make/ model of the device am using now?
2.When and for how much was it acquired?
3.What's my passport number?
4. What's my birthday?

Answer those four and then tell me my problem

Just tell him you exactly what you are saying here; things are bad, you may not fulfill your vow. True MoG know this. He will release you from your vow. For the sake of your peace, you can tell him YOU will contact him once you get it. That spares you endless calls.

And finally, don't be a mumu by making irrational emotional promises

If your mother/wife starred in those adult scenes and it don't bother you,then by all means watch as many

You just redefined busy. Too busy fending for your family yet you literally hang around NL lurking in the shadows. BUSY is an overused cliche by poor to low esteem suckaz trying to appear significant but I forgive you.

Trustman is a closet gay, transvestite and satanist. He sacrificed his twins last week on Friday.Take that to the nearest Den of thieves
Hope you can sleep and drop hallucinating now

Bidam:
I am not sure the guy is a christian, maybe an agnostic who loves reading the bible.

your reasons for NOT offering Firstfruits, too embarrassing to be shared publicly? You poured your guts out in the tithing debate. Helped thousands. Why shy away from this?

Image123:
Beat it. It's not by force to help somebody on demand.

Not EVERYbody, just SOMEbody. Who ever demanded nothing from you?

Image123:
i suppose i don't have to help everybody on demand.

You got to pamper kids you know

Now answer me, why would you shoot through your rear baseless allegations you can't substantiate?

nlMediator:
Thanks for conceding. Let that be a lesson for next time.

You don't suppose they may be of help to somebody?

Image123:
i don't see the need to discuss or share my minor reasons.

Repeat, if these hooligans would be silenced by a simple denial, there would be no need for demanding for evidence. But you know they don't stop at the taunts.

Knowledge of the Law? I pay lawyers whenever I have a need, medical doctors, tax accountants, mechanics,dentists. I hire brains and let my money work for me so your superior knowledge of Law is nothing

Now,grow up and learn to respect your elders you lewd fellow of the baser sort

nlMediator:
Rubbish. Respond to the case. You're pretending you know the law. Now, you're presented with the law, you're shifting ground. Did that case confirm what I said earlier, which you sought to refute, i.e. that there are scenarios where silence provides proof? I made it clear that it was not in all situations. So, your questions are irrelevant.

Envy your freedom? You'd almost kill to have my level of professional freedom and the influence that comes with it. You're probably a tiny businessman that hardly anybody knows about. And I'm supposed to envy you? If only you know who you're discussing with.

Again, admit your ignorance of the law and I'll let you go. Next time, you won't come here pretending you know any law besides what you watch on TV.

Oga you don't name names because it is a command but because it is the MOST sensible thing to do

But I get your sarcasm. funny negro

nlMediator:
Where did the Bible command us to name names? Two can play that game, you see.

Quit envying my freedom and learn to use your head off NL and may be you can come close to my level of bliss
Am too busy to chew case law and besides, it does not add no value to your point. The ONLY reason one would hurl an allegation here WITHOUT PROOF is malice. I said if I kept quiet, mbaemeka would have assumed I was guilty, once I spoke, he never absolved me unlike those cases you are so lamely throwing around. He still insisted.

If silence is proof of guilt, the a mere denial would be proof of innocence. Would you have believed that BabaGnoni never claimed that Eve slept with the serpent if he denied the baseless claims?

nlMediator:
The problem with some of you is that you are full of ignorance but you think you know everything. Silence can prove a case convincingly. That you claim to run some business does not mean you know what you're saying. Why don't you start with this case: Brooks v. Bell, 1998 WL 165024 (Court of Appeals of Ohio, April 10, 1998). When you're done reading it, I can send some 50 more authorities in the next few hours. And in case, you cannot grasp what the case says, this excerpt from p. 4 debunks your nonsense: "We hold that the trial court did not err in finding that Bell met her burden of showing that the transfer of funds was valid. We agree with the trial court that Cavett impliedly ratified Bell's actions. Ratification can be either express or implied. The evidence at trial established that Cavett knew all along that Bell wrote the checks at issue and did not protest or complain, and did not attempt to take away her power of attorney."

Got it? Lack of protest. No word. Silence. Proof.

Whatever you mean by 'real character issues' silence is never proof of nothing for reasons I have shared. Prove beyond doubt your allegations or shut up. Repeating them is a sign of your conviction yet you have no time to back them up. That's dishonesty really.

Look, mbaemeka falsely accused me of ignorance by claiming that I started that paul rebuked peter in Galatia (instead of Antioch). I could have simply denied but I confronted him. I charged him to adduce proof by way of pointing to the very post I made. He could not. Instead he paraphrased whatever he thought i said and later claimed that was the only proof he had since I had edited my post. So now am guilty of error as well as covering it up after being corrected. When I insisted he provide proof, he aksd me to look it up his posts. This is the kind of imbecillic nonsense we are avoiding of putting one on the defence over another's hallucinations

Denial is not enough for mindless stalkers and detractors

nlMediator:
When it comes to real character issues, silence is proof of wrongdoing. Even the law that places the burden of proof on the person making the allegation provides that one is liable in some situations when they keep silent, e.g. When they should disaffirm.

Minor reasons for NOT offering Firstfruits?

Image123:
No major reason.

This argument whether used by anti-tithing or WOFers is weak and I will attack the defenses when I run into them

Hebrews divinely uses scriptural silence on Melchizedek's ancestry in a remarkable way. Jews used them in the Talmuds. In fact, the rule is nothing exists before it was FIRST mentioned.

I have read of speculations that Joseph the husband of mary may have died when Jesus was quite young hence the loud silence about him in the gospels. But when it comes to doctrines, extreme skepticism is to be employed before adopting a doctrine whose biggest argument is silence.

nlMediator:
You're missing the point. He's the one that says he can use silence to make his point. Suddenly, he is abandoning the standard. What changed? That's what you should be asking him.

It is an ego thing. When a girl turns you down, you go bragging to your buddies that you rejected her. When she dumps you, you would never confess that to nobody, you say you dumped her. Oyaks would have you believe that he had it with Anita and he had to cut her loose but the fact is he was dumped BIG. Men can be so vain. Only problem is this is coming from a goD who is married to a mere mortal Anita. Comical

lastmessenger:
Yes is painful to see that things turned out the way it is. He is one of those ministers that I had a high regard for but this latest happenings changed everything.
The major problem I have is not even that he is gonna have a divorce but his handling of it is just too poor.
Even as a single guy, I can't talk bad about a girl a dated in the past not to talk of the wife that I will marry.

There certainly were a discussion about Eve and the serpent and BabaGnoni participated in it a few months ago. It helps if he can simply confirm of denied that he ever claimed or agreed to claims that Eve had sex with the serpent.

I have noticed a hesitation to admit publicly beliefs we hold to privately out of the fear of being castigated. mbaemeka attempted to blackmail me by reminding me that I once said that Christ ascended ONCE and that the double ascension theory is pure trash. He failed because I have no apologies for stating that. The same negro claimed that WITHOUT his consent Jesus would not take him home meaning he has the keys to his immortality in his consent .

WOFers are at pains to dissect the strange devilish laughter videos starring Hagin, theyd rather trade insults than justify these things yet they believe in them. I noted the same dithering over Firstfruits. They will go as far as misrepresenting Hagin's position on the matter. Still, they opt to be incoherent with regard to commanding Angels teaching and refuse to be drawn into discussions on the subject.

So, to all participating in this thread, can we have some minimal honesty in confessing our beliefs or we abandon them all together? What's the point of clinging to embarrassing indefensible stuff? That's cowardice

Gombs:
Hello all, I was doing some digging, to get the old WoF thread back, and guess what I stumbled on!

BabaGnoni, did you at anytime imply the Eve and Snake thing? A straight answer would determine if I should pull out the thread from hectic processes I don't want to go into!

Bidam has a point!


Mba sid the thread was washed away by the tsunami! And he's right, The thread was around April this year! I am beginning to think someone is obviously lying

BabaGnoni, for integrity sake, did you imply such?

so you are a son of a witch?

okosodo:
No because women are witches

As a fellow married man, I really empathize with him. Divorce or a troubled marriage can take its toll on your entire psyche. I would never wish it on the worst of mine enemies.

What will come out of this saga is
1. Christ Embassy fanatics will somewhat RATIONALIZE divorce and deem it as 'not that bad since Daddy did it anyway'. Expect rabid scriptural arguments justifying him

2. The topic has and will remain an abomination among his most rabid fans. There will be little to no inflection, no lessons learnt

3. The wise ones will for once see through the man-is-goD heresy where believers are taught that they are goDs, and they can be disease&poverty-free simply by having faith and reciting prosperity verses. A man in Christ is not in control of ALL or even half of the circumstances under the fallen creation and this is the biggest lesson

Arguments from silence are notoriously unreliable. In the Gospels, seldom were names named whether for good or evil...the healed lepers, the woman with issue of blood, the Centurion and so forth. So Jesus not naming objects of his rebuke or there being no record of such don't mean much, it does not help WOFers in shielding their goDs

nlMediator:

So, that's the appropriate question? Do you recall when somebody asked a similar question on the WOF thread about any instance of Jesus naming the Pharisees whose practices he condemned? Your response then was that since there's nowhere in the Scriptures we're told not to name names, you'd go ahead to do so. You see how that logic works?

The truth is that we can learn from silence and that silence is not necessarily proof. Problem is some of you are inconsistent in adhering to principle. So apply your question to your WOF thread in response to the question posed by that brother and then come back to lecture us.

But it should be clear from the animal sacrifices mentioned that the Levitical system is in question.
Even the most rabid pro-tithers agree that Malachi injunction is to the Levitical tithing regime. They get around this by claiming that they are tithing by 'faith' and not according to the abolished Levitical system. Of course this is a weak argument since the one can also argue that they are circumcising not according to Moses but according to Abraham

Image123:
i'm speaking it to you. Same excuse can be made for any of the epistles as written to so and so, not you. God's house is not only in Jerusalem.

Sir, yes sir!

Candour:
Hello vooks, pls enough with the insults abeg. It has been traded enough. i'm sure from this point on, we can get our points across without throwing such caustic jabs at each other.

let it rest pls