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Nisiw365:
Idimu means so many meanings. Example is fight. Eko is the short form of ereko. You can't claim you control Lagos and yet Yoruba is the only language spoken , only Yoruba kings are in Lagos and only yoruba sub tribes.
Now I'm asking you again, why is non of your lineage a king in Lagos

how does fight relate to the name of a place? Come to uromi and Ekpoma and see if almost every village here doesn't have idumu affixed to it. In Ekpoma you have idumebo meaning Quarters of native doctors, ihumudumu meaning Quarters of the poor. Ihumudumu is one of the largest area in Ekpoma. My village you have idumueni meaning elephant quarters, you have idumokojie, idumuagba etc. Idumota in Lagos means talk talk Quarters.
My place is referred to as ukpeko meaning small settlement by neighbouring clans

Nisiw365:
You're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. You claim you own a place but no sign to prove such. You don't speak their langauage. None of the oba is Benin. No Edo/Benin subtribe in Lagos

lol you are a kid if you think places in Lagos will have Esan names by miracle.
I told you how those places got their names and their meanings and you are here bringing up incoherent jargons.Ẹdo people Annexed the swamp, named it Ẹko meaning settlement, lekki was called Ẹki, meaning market which was were Ẹdo soldiers sold Yoruba slaves to the Portuguese, those Yorubas have a significant Yoruba culture in Brazil till present. Where the slaves were kept was called idumigbon meaning slave quarters, it was later changed to idumigbon / idumagbo meaning meaning humans quarters. Other parts of Lagos have Bini and etsako names.
Eko is completely surrounded by Yoruba villages so it's normal for Yorubas to have a large number of people there

ceragon123:
The way many people try to defend the Igbos on this thread is become sensational. I won't blame them either. You can't corner someone and expect them to give up easily.

I have come to a logical conclusion that other ribes within Nigeria would have been far better off if they had learnt some life secrets from others especially from the Igbos. The secret is that nobody knows it all. That is why you see the Igbos trying to understand how businesses works anywhere. We have agreed now that truly people can mentor family and friends and connect them with contact and money. Anybody can become rich once connected. The Igbos has been connecting since the days of Ojukwus' father who raised above a thousand businesspeople.

The Igbos has to defend that special attention and protesting also against the country for the odds against them.
Everybody is special, Some are more special than the others and can never be compared.

Every tribe is special and superior
..

what odds are against Igbos. I read this thing everywhere. I read everywhere that Igbos are oppressed I don't understand how.
Last time I checked, you had your own states, at least 5 and others where your people still hold good positions like portharcourt and Delta.
In your 5 states you have your own governors, senators,, House of Reps, ministers etc.
Former finance minister was Igbo, former petroleum minister was Igbo, former cbn governor was Igbo. There are countless number of notable Igbos in notable positions. What's this oppression you guys are talking about?
I want to know this odds that's stacked against you

Nisiw365:
Idimu means so many meanings. Example is fight. Eko is the short form of ereko. You can't claim you control Lagos and yet Yoruba is the only language spoken , only Yoruba kings are in Lagos and only yoruba sub tribes.
Now I'm asking you again, why is non of your lineage a king in Lagos

lol you don't even know what you are talking about

ThickSharon123:
What are you saying, dear. Your the one making your confusion. You said Lagos and the west were for Bini, then later on reduced it to Lagos, then later on said it's market for Yoruba slaves.


Or wait, if you are talking on this side. Yoruba's had states to, haven't you heard of the Ekiti-parapo wars and the likes. There were wars in those lands, and they could have probably given the Oba land knowing he was good in slave trade and at good heads with the colonialist at that time.

So, the Oba would have been a diplomatic partner with the some parts of the westerners which gave him avenue to sell people brought out from wars, or kidnapped from forigen lands.

I'm talking history around 1300AD you are talking about Ekiti parapoo war that happened in 1886 mtchww
I never said Ẹdo owned Yoruba, I said Ondo, Lagos and Ado-ekiti were our colony.

ThickSharon123:
okay, the Oba was just a marketer of slaves, he wasn't looking forward to conquer, so Yoruba gave him the swamp land for his trade...now I get the point, to me that wasn't conquering ohhh, Nnukwa!!! ...that's called diplomacy.

Yoruba's were friendly to give Oba Aturpooro land, now his subjects are fighting for him saying Lagos and west are their own. Seee chewing the finger that fed you...

I knew you were a kid right from the beginning. So you'd give someone land to capture and sell your people to the Portuguese?

Nisiw365:
Who told you lekki idumota are esan names. Just so you know edo and Benin are Yoruba names

lol. What does idumu mean in Yoruba?
What does Ẹki mean in Yoruba?

ThickSharon123:
Okay, okay, okay.... but was the Oba so humble that he didn't conquer the whole of that land and its resources, that's the question now, and why he didn't?

Why would he conquer only Swamp Lagos at that time, there was no Lagos as we have it now.

Places like Abeokuta, Oyo, Ile-Ife and the rest where there, with resources, but Oba only had Swamp Lagos. Why?

lekki was initially called Ẹki, the esan word for market. That was where Yoruba slaves were sold. Idumagbo was initially idumuigbon the esan word for slave quatets. It was later renamed idumuagbo meaning humans quarters. The name it was called back then was Eko, the esan word for settlement. Eko is surrounded by Yoruba villages reason they were able to easily sieve into the city and populated it and subsequently "claiming" it later.

ThickSharon123:
Let me guess, Lagos was your colony in history books, be logical yourself and see and make analysis with your eye, and find the truth for yourself.

Do not rely on another person's truth or discobery. If Lagos was so-called your colony, why don't they hold at least a festival in honour of your Oba or Ogiso.
Lagos was only a port of trade for the Bini, and Bini didn't influence any where, if it did the Oba would have taken the whole of the west as you claim.

Stop trying to fight for a presence, when you have none. The power your Oba holds is for the Ika, Urhobo, Itshekiri, etc, but none of the West or even the east, not even the South, like Akwa Ibom or Cross-River knew he ever existed until Nigeria came together.

you sound like a little girl. Around 16 years or so. Is there any human in Nigeria who doesn't know Edos created Lagos? Most places in Lagos have Edo names. Lekki Idumota etc are Esan names.

ThickSharon123:
Anambra were never colonies to Bini kingdom, stop contradicting yourself. What is called Colonialism? Okay, they were colonials and couldn't even influence their language or lifestyle.

Why didn't Anambra people become subjugated and called themselves Bini.

Anambra influenced Bini just the same way Bini influenced them. And come to think of it, do you think of the Oba would be satisfied with just that kingdom, he'll be looking forward to expand even the whole of Africa if he had the power.

So your judgement is not true :-

you are incoherent. Are you 14 or something? Lagos was also our colony, do they speak our language there? What of Ondo and Ado-ekiti?

cococandy:
All the regurgitated and passed around incel talking points devoid of fact or common sense.
The women who have multiple sexual partners beg to disagree with you

Next.

are the promiscuous women openly celebrated and lust after like their male counterparts?
Promiscuous women are generally regarded as worthless whorre all over the world. Nobody gives a shiiit about a promiscuous man as long as he's not a pauper.
It doesn't matter how much you cry, promiscuous women will forever be seen as worthless

ThickSharon123:
That's not true, the east had resources, dear. The palm oil trade was common those times, and it was high value, the rubber trade too, reddening clay creams (beauty products), pottery works, the rafia trade, most were from the east. Why do you think Igbo's are more accustomed to trade, and please don't tell me that nosense of Lebanese coming to take over Nigerian, and all that crap .

That said, the only reason the Bini had no dealings with the east, because it knew that one threat to its communities meant a threat to them all. So the Oba or Ogiso (whatever the title is) used diplomacy when coming forward to ask.

If it used war, then you'll see all Igbo people being United to fight against him. Like the Arochukwu war with the British and the rest. That's why the Oba was smart enough to stay on his side, and would only chip in, if there were wars in a community, like the Ekiti wars, and all.

It was all strategy at that time. And yes, our ancestors knew what was strategy, it wasn't gotten from Romans.

lol
This is actually funny because you don't know that Anambra and Agbor were colonies of the Benin. No kingdom in the whole of West West Africa come close to the old Benin kingdom. even Britain couldn't do anything to it on their own. You are talking about the only kingdom that stood firm even the scramble of west Africa by the Europeans lol. Igbo never had a powerful kingdom or empire

cococandy:
Because you people don’t have sense.

Unless you’re secretly saying boys should be sleeping with each other. That way they can accrue their high body count and be worthy of praise and all the girls will have no body count in order to be worthy of your admiration.
You really typed something that makes 0 sense given that men and women are equal in number on this earth and posted thinking you’ve provided a reason for the foolishness. But all you’ve done is highlight how illogical and dumb many of you are when it comes to matters concerning women and sex.

calm down. Most men are useless and worthless and majority of women would have nothing to do with them. Women are hypergamous. Davido despite his records of knocking ladies up and leaving them would still fucck 80% of girls in Nigeria without condom and they will gladly throw away their postinor 2. Nature design men to be polygamous to fill the earth and women to be hypergamous.
Women were built to be chaste. The only reason your husband care about you when you are pregnant is because he subconsciously believe women are chaste.

Chris525:
Can you avail me your source please.

Why do you think that a lot of Ekiti/Ondo culture tilts towards the Edos other than the yoruba? Even the Iyan they eat or claim as theirs is Edo’s food. The core yorubas are known for Amala, lafun etc. Even their indigenious language is arguably Edoid.

Ado-ekiti was a colony of Benin just like Lagos and Ondo

Chris525:
But the brits won.

it was recorded as a British victory but in reality it was just another case of Africans defeating other Africans.
British military are the most overrated military in the history of mankind. Those guys have never won a real war on their own.

Etinosa1234:
Names of countries evolve..

Dahomey changed theirs to Benin, Gold Coast changed to Ghana

Even the French were not refered to as French from the beginning..

Also... Apart from the Igbo history revisionists who lie to suit their propaganda, there is no sign, belief, fact , history that the igbos once had a clan in Benin land...

The indigenous people of Benin who have been present on their land has been speaking the same language as their forefathers in 1000AD... Its only outsiders that formulate stories to feed their ego About the great Benin nation

Take ur land grabbing exercise to Calabar

these guys are funny. I can chronologically tell trace all tribes in Edo back to as far back as 900 AD when ogiso igodo formed the ogiso dynasty. Igbos that were scattered throughout Eastern parts of Nigeria and the Cameroons are now claiming to own Edo?

Hathor5:
In your environment.

everywhere

Chris525:
It was burnt to the ground and everything tangible carted away.

They’re still a force though but nothing like what they were. Even the Usman Dan Fodio Dynasty in the North is nothing like it was. Times have changed.

it was done by mainly fellow Africans. The British couldn't defeat the Benins. The reason everything was looted was that the Brits promised all the African protectorates soldiers from South Africa to the Niger deltas lots of bronze and gold if they were able to take the kingdom so they had to turn everything upside down in search of valuables the moment the kingdom fell. Britain vs Old Benin in a one on one battle Britain would lose 99/100 and be completely slaughtered.

hammerDK:
Ogbe in Igbo means area of settlemen or yard.

Ugbo means Farm.

so? How does that make it more Igbo than Esan.
Ogbe means fence while ogbẹ means someone very important.
These linguistics similarities were mainly as a result of Edos activities in those regions.
Idumota is an esan word lekki is from the esan word for market, Eki, Idumagbo is an esan word. There are other parts of Lagos with Benin and etsako names.
The general name of Lagos, Eko is an esan word for settlement.

hammerDK:
Edionwere almost sound igbo.

Oka in Igbo also means 1st or Bigger.

Ogbe is igbo.


Ugbo is igbo.


Your language is Igbo mixed with yoruba.


U cannot make a sentence without an igbo word in it.

ogbe is not Igbo.
Ugbo means farm and its particularly uromi word, not just esan okalo is the full word meaning first.

hammerDK:
You did not colonize anybody.

If you are from Bini, you are either descendant of the Yoruba or Original tribe there, who were igbos.

I'm from uromi. We weren't Igbos.
We trace our ancestry back to the ogisos.
I gave you examples of places we colonised. Most places in Lagos have Esan names

hammerDK:
Edionwere almost sound igbo.

Oka in Igbo also means 1st or Bigger.

Ogbe is igbo.


Ugbo is igbo.


Your language is Igbo mixed with yoruba.


U cannot make a sentence without an igbo word in it.

no, our people colonised most parts of Igbo and Yoruba so your languages got influenced by the Edoid language. For example part of Anambra were our colony, same with Agbor. Ondo, Ado-Ekiti and Lagos were also created by Edos.
There's no records of Igbo and Yoruba presence in the Edoid region (Yoruba is debatable due to the activities of oromiynan in some parts of Uselu) but Edo presence in Yoruba and Igbo regions are well documented

mvem:
what of the guy ramming the lady...why do we see the oart of the lady only as immoral but tolerate the immoral part of the guy ?

a man's "value" doesn't reduce with sexual activities. A boy who has fuccked all the girls in his compound or department would be hailed as a champion while a girl who fuccked all the boys in his compound would disparaged and dismissed as a worthless whorre.
A boy is shamed for being a virgin while a girl is hailed for being a virgin

EMMY76:
Empires that were all conquered by ojukwu and his men in one day till date it's on record that it's only ojukwu and the British that have conquered the bini empire and all the other tribes in the niger delta.

lol how is it conquering when you literally met no single military presence?
The Midwest made it clear that we were not interested at all in the conflict between fulanis and Igbos so we didn't even bother to station security anywhere. What then happened when most of our people enlisted and the second division was formed?
Remember what happened in Asaba?

British didn't really conquer Benin. We were conquered by fellow Africans. When Brits came they were massacred. They had to beg Africans from South to west Africa, promising them bountiful bronze and gold which they hoped to recover from the city before they were able to do anything. Britain vs Old Benin one on one, old Benin would win 99 /100

Karanka:
Reno doesn't have sense at all.
No tribe was shielded from slavery.
Even Binis and Itsekiris were taken as slaves by Igbos and other tribes.
What happened back then was a matter of opportunity. If you had opportunity to acquire a slave even from Chad, then you could.
For him to cite this as a reason for cultural influence and not something like decades of trades and social interaction between Igbos and their neighbours shows that Reno is indeed a big fo*ol.

Igbos didn't enslave Edos. Igbos didn't have any notable powerful kingdom and armies to raid a highly structured and developed kingdom like Benin.
This doesn't mean Igbos were weak or anything. No West African kingdom actually matched kingdom of Benin at that time. Even Britain could not defeat Benin. It took the alliance of the British, South African protectorates, Niger deltans etc to finally cripple the Edos.
Yorubas were also sold by the Edos. Lekki was initially known as eki meaning market in Esan, that was were Yorubas slaves were sold.

hammerDK:
ACTUALLY, IDU IS NOT A PERSON.


IDU IS A KINGDOM, NOW REPLACED WITH BINI KINGDOM.


THE NAME OF A PERSON IS IGODO MIGODO.


IGODO WAS A KING IN IDU KINGDOM.


IT IS FUNNY YOU INCLUDED IKA, WHICH IS AN IGBO CLAN.


OGISO IS THE TITLE OF KINGS IN IDU KINGDOM.


TILL THIS DAY IN IGBO LAND, NO KINGSHIP TITLE IS COMPLETE WITHOUT THE INCLUSION OF IDU.


THIS IS AN ACKNOWLEDEMENT OF IDU AS THE SOURCE OF KINGSHIP.




I.E. Eze Nwaesi Idu Ezeora XXII (1177-1240 CE) OR iduuEri

in our legend the places called Igodomigodo was founded by Pa Idu, the younger brother of Osa the ruler of the sky, his children spread out to start families which later turned to villages and towns. The rulers were Edionwere meaning elders. Edionwere will then appoint a young spokesperson, okaiko to represent him in meetings. Okaiko is a derivation from okalo (first) ikolo (meetings). Igodo was an okaiko who deceptively killed all the Edionweres and named himself ogiso. Ogiso is from the words ogie and iso. ogie means king and Iso means sky or far away or unknown. Igodo claimed to have descended from directly from pa Idu, the younger brother of Osalobua(God) so he became the first Ogiso. The Ogiso dynasty ended with owodo. The word idu is still very present in Esan as Idumu which means Quarters. Idumota, idumuagbo etc were created by Esan soldiers who colonised Lagos

hammerDK:
THE IGBO WERE SEGMENTAL.

IT WAS EASY TO PICK THEM OFF, AS THEY LIVE IN SMALL AUTONOMOUS COMMUNITIES INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.


NO CENTRALISED SYSTEM.


ALSO THE KINGDOM OF IDU FOUGHT A WAR WITH OBA TO STOP HIS INVASION OF IGODOMIGODO LAND.

THE OBA REFUSED TO LEAVE AND MARRIED AN IDU PRINCESS.

THEIR DESCENDANTS RULE OVER BINI KINGDOM TODAY.

Idu was not Igbo. In our legend, Idu is the younger brother of Osalobua, Idu is the father of tribes, Esans( who were the descendant of Ogiso Owodo) Binis, Urhobos, Ijaws, Kukurukus, ikas etc

hammerDK:
THE OLDEST GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA ARE IGBOS.


THE ORIGINAL BINI ARE IGBOS.



THE ONES YOU CALL ESAN ARE IGBOS.


THE KALABARI ARE IGBOS.


NONE OF THEIR HISTORY CAN BE WRITTEN WITHOUT MENTION OF THEIR IGBO ROOTS.

Esans are not Igbos.

Shiver99:
Goodness, what is it with mushroom tribes and trying to falsify history?

Mushroom tribes never had the guts to enslave the great Igbo race.

The times of war and strife in Igbo countries allowed Igbo merchants to sell other Igbos to foreigners. This is why as far down Igboland, some Igbos had hausa slaves. Not that they invaded hausaland.

It took decades for Europeans with sophisticated weapons to technically 'defeat' the Igbos. Mushrooms trying to do the same would have been wiped out from history.

lol you are calling Edo mushroom?
If the rest of Africa had half the gut and resilience of Edos, Europeans would have never succeeded in Africa. You're calling the last empire to be defeated with a collective effort of brits, South Africans and West Africans a mushroom? Lol

Sanchez01:
We all have a history. Blacks were originally foods for the whites to feast on; sell, use and discard as common items. It does not define us even though it is a part of our history.

The idea that Igbos of old were taken as slaves by the Old Bini Kingdom does not change or mean anything. The Old Bini was formidable and vast. It does not necessarily make them cowards.

no. Africans were goods for fellow Africans. Western Europeans are the most overrated group of people in history. Majority of Black slaves were captured by great African empires and sold to the Europeans.

jesmond3945:
but obi is not the government. His friends and family are the ones celebrating him all over social media. I bet you if buhari was alive to his responsibilities our IGR would boom so much that people will celebrate it. What is Abba kyari doing in the burial?

in my village in Uromi, Edo state, we have a minimum of 23 hours electricity. I remember when people came from Abuja for burial and were wowed because throughout their 3 days stay the light didn't even blink. The light was done by one man. Nigerian government is useless. Instead of throwing wads of cash into the air just to prove how rich they are I bet the people in that village will appreciate far more if he tarred the road and do proper drainage with that money. If he did that those things will be there for the next 20 years