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Shawarmagirl:
There is no valid charge against him under any existing law in Nigeria.

The bolded above is where Kanu is holding the Nigeria government. Any attempted attempts to Arrow the law just to persecute NK, means Nigeria State go against its own law.

Dey play, you never see something. You never know something.

Why does JAMB representatives want all the press men and cameras out of the session?

How sensitive is the information they intend to share?

What is the big deal on the information that could necessitate a walk out?

I also think the members of the committee were being hostile and uncooperative. I watched the video and I think the committee members were generally using offensive languages, annoying words and threats.

If I were in the team of JAMB too, I will prefer to walk away.

There should be consultation between JAMB and House Committee representatives to discuss the need for a rescheduled under a conducive and cooperative environment without threats, abuse or negativity.

Willy2025:
But the court said that he has a case to answer and should open his defence. This means a prima case has been established against him requiring an answer. With this time wasting, the court should overrule him and ask him to open his defence. Thereafter, he should be shut out and sentenced accordingly. The penalty for his offences is 20 to 25yrs imprisonment with hard labour. He is getting nothing less than that

The court can't force him to open his case. The judge already ordered Nnamdi Kanu and his legal team to open his case. If he still insists he has no case to answer, the judge will have him and or, his defense attorney file that response before the court officially.

Subsequently, the judge will now pass judgement based on the the submission of the prosecution attorney and the defense attorney or Nnamdi Kanu himself, as it is in this case.

Bottom line, Nnamdi Kanu will be sentenced to a long, perhaps life imprisonment, jail term or death sentence.

He can go ahead and appeal the judgement in a superior Court.

LithiumSupplier:
Using the official Kogi State logo?

Say something tangible.

I haven't seen the Kogi State Logo on this very letter. There is nothing on the letter that presents it as a letter from the office of Kogi State Government

TouchNfollow:
Which one is red flag 🚩 to you?

None, all is okay by me. The priority is your moral values, mentality and behavior.

TouchNfollow:
Which one is red flag 🚩 to you?

None, all is okay by me. The priority is your morals, mentality and behavior

Oakenshield:
because Judiciary is a mess. Reasons why countries respect USA not because of their military might but how their judiciary doesn't tolerate shit.

The current USA🇺🇸 under Donald Trump exhibits a judiciary that is compromised too.

givedemwotowoto:
There’s no gain in moving on from injustice if moving means it will happen again and again, if it’s not addressed. You’re not moving forward. Maybe you move forward for yourself but the system will drag you back at some point. If it doesn’t get you it may get your loved ones or generations after.

Enjoy the wotowoto then, your body go tell you.

givedemwotowoto:
Those who refuse to support or join protests to save their lives sometimes find someone they know (God forbid) begging for it in the hands of insecurity or at a dilapidated hospital where nobody will attend to their loved ones.

Is this topic about protest or Nnamdi KANU?

givedemwotowoto:
There’s no gain in moving on from injustice if moving means it will happen again and again, if it’s not addressed. You’re not moving forward. Maybe you move forward for yourself but the system will drag you back at some point. If it doesn’t get you it may get your loved ones or generations after.

When you move on, then you are able to heal, if wounded, or become a better person.

You leave the trouble or problem with the aggressor or troublesome persons. However, when you stay on the problem; dwell on the problem with "no gree for anybody this year" orientation.

You will continue to sink into hatred, devastation, destruction and injuries. You will be complaining and lamenting to a point that you will become intolerable and every sensible persons that wants their peace will just start avoiding you.

Take a critical look at yourself and deny that this isn't true about you.

People are moving on from perilous situations, they are moving away from you.

It is your choice to keep dwelling in the past and your problems

waslag11:
Move on should not be always answer to every problem, attitude of moving on still keep us stagnant as nation.

You have an option to dwell on the past or not to move on.

That would be your choice. Enjoy it.

givedemwotowoto:
The Attitude of “Moving On” is Killing Nigeria

"It’s okay, it’s okay, move on, let's not dwell on the issue.”

That is maturity.
That is forgiveness.
That is life.

You can't always have your way in life.

Focus on your happiness, success, growth and development. Stop dwelling on the past and failures.

ayesco202:
It's really sad. They tell you to forget about it and move on.

Such statements are manipulative.

It is not exactly manipulative, it is often maturity

babajero:
does supporting APC make someone foolish?

Maybe it makes their supporters foolish. You should ask the APC supporters.

mcquin:
Check through my profile and confirm for yourself that I am far from being a fan of Kanu.

You probably would think me a Tinubu supporter sef.

We can't all give up of logic and sound reasoning because we support a tribe or party. That's what zombies do.

I'd appreciate it more if you engage me as a lawyer and flaw my analysis. I won't blame you if you fail as I don't think you are a lawyer.

I have no need for this argument here. The defendant (Nnamdi Kanu) and Prosecution lawyers will argue it out in the court.

I believe the courts want to give it accelerated hearing; the case is already tiring. Just follow the developments in court.

We shall see.

mcquin:
Section 9 (b) of the Evidence Act, 2011;
Facts not otherwise relevant become relevant if by themselves or in connection with other facts they make the existence or non-existence of any fact in issue or relevant fact probable of improbable.

The immediate facts in issue is the "oneness" of Nigeria. Kanu is of the opinion that the country is not one and his people desire to separate themselves from the Nigerian entity.

You ask, how is the invitation of Wike or Abdulsalami relevant?

Simple, if by the actions or statements of these political actors, they have shown Nigeria is indeed not one, their actions or statements becomes relevant in discussing Kanu's defence to the extent that he has not said or done a thing not contemplated by these state actors in time past.

But for Tinubu being president, I'd want to see his invitation to answer questions on the statement credited to him in time past that "Nigeria is not one."

The evidence of these witnesses which otherwise won't be relevant have become relevant in proving the existence of a fact in issue, ie, "the oneness of Nigeria" which DSS says has been threatened by Kanu.

Indeed, followership of Nnamdi Kanu makes people lose sense of reasoning.

babajero:
the government instituted a case against him and they are all part of the government.

Does followership or association with Nnamdi Kanu make people lose their sense of reasoning or become stupid?

babajero:
nobody is talking about individual here, we are talking about the case. They instituted a case against him and they have to come out and defend it.

Who instituted the case against Nnamdi Kanu?

You sound like another Nnamdi Kanu already?

favor914:
Notwithstanding, occfx has said let them appear first, they will attest to the goodness of Satan.

The joke is on you man. The law doesn't allow any one to be forced to stand as a witness. It is willingly done by law.

The only time anyone is compelled to give testimony as a witness is when they are on subpoena issued by the trial judge. The trial judge will only issue a subpoena when he is convinced that the testimony of the potential witness is necessary, relevant and fundamental to the defence of the defendant.

In the case of majority of the listed persons on Nnamdi Kanu's list, the judge himself will also have a good laugh and just refer the legal team to the person they want to stand as witness for them for his consent and willing desire to appear, otherwise, there is nothing the judge will do; the judge will not issue a subpoena.

Period.

mcquin:
The discretion of a judge must be judicially and judiciously deployed. A judge cannot unreasonably withhold deploying such discretion to meet the ends of justice. I had earlier submitted that courts are bound to consider all defence of an Accused, considering his rights are on trial. Against that backdrop, give me a reason why the His Lordship will deny an Accused right to supboen a witness.

The much I know, the Accused fill relevant form, it is signed by the judge and served on the witness to be called.

What is the relevance of a current Governor of Lagos State testimony as a witness in Nnamdi Kanu's case?

He never met Sanwo Olu, they have never had any dealings so why request the judge to subpoena him? Especially since I am so sure Sanwo will not come as a witness for him willingly.

Take a look at his list of witness and see how ridiculous Nnamdi Kanu is looking.

It is laughable.

babajero:
in this case the judge have no option because this is a high profile case.

The judge is not to be influenced by who or whatever you, Nnamdi Kanu or anyone is.

Who cares about your profile in court when justice is at stake.

shortgun:
I assume you don't know by this stage of the trial, the case has moved far beyond technicalities. The prosecution has presented its witnesses, completed cross-examinations and formally closed its case. Nnamdi Kanu has consistently appeared in court, following the proceedings closely, making observations and taking notes. At this point, the only business before the court is for the defence to open its case or make a no-case submission.

Any attempt to raise new objections or procedural technicalities would be deemed an abuse of court process and will not be entertained.
From my observation, Kanu appears confident and seems to be positioning himself to personally claim credit for what may already look like a favourable outcome.

I don't see the relevance of your question if I've been a witness in court before to this discussion

Are you saying the prosecutor can't cross examine the witness?

The prosecution closed their case because Nnamdi Kanu and his team held on to no case submission and so the prosecutor proceeded to close their case.

However, the judge ruled against Nnamdi Kanu and his legal counsel's no case submission and ruled that Nnamdi Kanu must open his case.

That has automatically reopened the the closure of the prosecution counsel's case. That has opened the witness that Nnamdi Kanu presents in court to cross examination.

This is in the interest of fairness and justice and that is often paramount in the court of law.

My question is relevant to the extent that you seen to exhibit little knowledge on practical procedures and practices on cases in court

pembisco:
The compellability of a witness refers to the power to force a competent witness to testify even if it's against their will.

Under the Sixth Amendment, a criminal defendant has the right to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his or her favor. This right includes both the right to offer the testimony of witnesses, and to compel their attendance, if necessary.

Which sixth amendment do you refer?

I thought sixth amendment is peculiar to USA. The sixth amendment is alien to Nigerian law!

Can you be realistic please.

Goo0dHardDick:
That some of his legal teams withdraw doesn't mean he has no lawyers. His lawyers can do that. Besides he has a whole team of SANs

You are not up to date, get your information correctly.

All the SANs on his defense team withdrew from his case and made it official in court.

He had to speak for himself in the court this week. If he has a lawyer on that day, that lawyer would be speaking for him.

If you see any SAN or lawyer representing Nnamdi Kanu on the next trial date, they would be new legal counsel.

Goo0dHardDick:
Dude you don't know anything yet. Those witnesses will be forced to appear on court wether they like it or not. They're called complied witnesses

They can only be forced to appear in court with a subpoena and a subpoena is at the discretion of the judge subject to your legal counsel being able to convince the judge to order a subpoena on the witness.

You can't violate the right of the witness to a willful testimony, where the potential witness isn't willing to testify.

shortgun:
Like I said before, you don't need to be a lawyer to understand the law, including criminal law. The constitution is written in formal legal English language and every word is carefully chosen to avoid ambiguity. So, I don't see any reason why a man who fully understands that his self representation carries serious consequences will want to jeopardize his chances. On procedure, I agree he will make mistakes because he's not a trained legal person, typically the judge will provide guidance in that direction to ensure fair hearing.

The judge doesn't owe a defendant or prosecutor any guidance in court.

That is why there are lawyers and if you don't have the fund to employ a lawyer. There are state funded lawyers that can render the service to you, at little or no cost, but if you insist on representing yourself in court before the judge, whatever mistakes you make is your doing and can be used against you in court by the judge, especially where the prosecutor or opposing legal council insists on the technicality of the case as it progresses.

Nnamdi Kanu is in a mess and he is digging in on the mess.

Have you ever been in court as an accused before? Have you been tried in court before or been a cross examined witness to a case in court?

Franking:
What you don't know is whether disengaging them was their idea. You clearly don't know what transpired, so, we'll just wait and see after all, according to you, he's digging a hole for himself.

We will see

shortgun:
How?
We really need to abandon this mindset that only lawyers should be knowledgeable about legal matters. Kanu is a remarkably intelligent man with a deep understanding of the Constitution. I’ve heard him quote relevant sections and reference decided cases with confidence. While he may not always get the procedures right, judges generally ensure that self-represented defendants understand the charges, follow the process in simple terms and are not disadvantaged by their lack of legal training.

Defendants like him, who choose to appear pro se, deserve commendation for their courage. In my view, every Nigerian should acquaint themselves with the Constitution, it’s the only path to true civic awareness and sustainable national development.

This is a serious case against Nnamdi Kanu. The sentence could be severe so he needs learned council and experienced lawyers to represent him.

Being intelligent, as you describe Nnamdi Kanu, is completely different from the understanding and practice of law.

What does Kanu know about criminal laws?

mcquin:
Though not on trial, check the Evidence Act for “relevance.” I’m not close to the Act now, would have shown you. Facts which though not in issue are connected, would be relevant. There’s a section more on the point that I can’t reference off hand now.

Again, the court is bound to consider all defense’s available to an Accused no matter how unreasonable it may sound.

Yes, but a Judge is not bound to issue a subpoena on a witness except when convinced to do so.

Being a witness is willingly done.

Franking:
And your IQ is higher than Kanu's, right? You really believe Kanu doesn't know what he's doing......calm down na let's see what happens as the case unfolds.

Nnamdi Kanu is being stupid. He is obviously delusional.

Is Nnamdi Kanu smarter than the several SAN lawyers that he disengaged? What does Nnamdi Kanu know about law and legal counsel or representation in court?

He digging a hole for himself.

nedekid:
Oga once you are subpoenaed as a witness it is not a choice for you to come or not, it is a must.

"If a subpoenaed witness refuses to testify, the court can issue a warrant for their arrest to compel their testimony and may find them in contempt of court, leading to punishment like jail time. While witnesses have grounds to try and have a subpoena set aside, a valid subpoena can still be legally enforced, and the court can order them to testify. Refusing to testify after a court order can be a serious offense, and once compelled, the witness must still testify truthfully to avoid charges for false testimony "

The judge can only issue a subpoena on a witness when he is convinced by your legal team that the evidence of the witness is necessary, critical and substances the case or arguments of the defendant.

The witness is not on trial and their decision to come as witness is willingly done except where subpoena is involved

Subpoena doesn't just happen, the judge would have to order it provided your legal counsel is able to convince the judge of the relevance and importance of the witness testimony in court.

If judge is not convinced, then the witness will not be on subpoena. It will be up to your legal team to approach the witness and appeal to the witness to come and testify in court.

babajero:
they will subpoenaed to appear in court.

The judge can only issue a subpoena when he is convinced by your legal team that the evidence of the witness is necessary, critical and substances the case or arguments of the defendant.