Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 11:45am On Sep 22, 2025 |
jaxxy: Well that is the interpretation of ur paymasters who think they manufactured Israel in 1948. That is not the historical fact or truth.
Go back and use ur Google to get the definition of Jews and get back to me let's continue our discussion. You should be laughing at yourself too: Your post about my so-called paymasters defined Jew as a people who traditionally practice Judaism as a religion. How is that different from what I have told you? Does their ancestry traceable to Abraham make the Christian? There is a clear difference between Christianity and Judaism. They are different religion.  |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:41am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Judolisco: its not monopoly per say.....there is a law that once we can manufacture and distribute a product sufficiently in Nigeria then all importation of that product must stop.... .we were importing cement before and rebagging, dangote started producing, went to court to stop people from importing, how is that monopoly? he didnt stop people from building their manufacturing plant and competing... If it is not "monopoly per say" then what is it? What law are you talking about? Can you quote the law from the statutes or Gazette or constitution or precedent or..... Just give us the reference to it. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:38am On Sep 22, 2025 |
coleon: This is why I don't value a lot of nonsense that comes out of this forum.A lot of dumb ignorant people masquerade themselves as learned and being informed. Someone just corrected you that Dangote is not running monopoly in any of his business areas yet you are still boastful in your ignorance and telling someone that knows more than you to go and read. Read what exactly? Do you know the meaning of monopoly at all? Who is your economics teacher if you don't know the difference between monopoly and oligopoly? Most of Dangote businesses that you ignorant people call monopoly are actually oligopoly. He's not the only one in any of his businesses but they are few of them in those businesses like cement, sugar, steel and not oil and gas and it's understandable because of the capital required to float such businesses. Take this correction: a learned person is a legally informed person like judges and lawyers. The fact that you are educated or informed doesn't make you learned. Let me also come down to your level: What is monopoly? What is monopolistic situation? What are the types of monopoly and discuss the features of monopoly? Let's follow that part as we progress. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:34am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Eniitankorede: You are the one who should go back to school. Go and learn the meaning of monopoly. The Nupeng wants to compel Dangote staff to join them. Dangote does not stop his staff from joining unions. Then you lack understanding of what you are trying to discuss. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 11:32am On Sep 22, 2025 |
jaxxy: And ur precious online data didn't educate u that Palestinians are not Jews but Arabs right?
I already explained how Muslims and Christians came about in Israel. They all have Jews heritage all of them but not all practice Judaism.
I don't know why u are insinuating comments and perception I didn't make? 
Did I ever say jews where predominantly Christians or Muslim? I stated how they might be Muslim or Christians but their heritage is definitely Jewish.
And this is still consistent with the bible. Oga, there is nothing like Jewish- Christian or Jewish-Moslem. You are either a Christian or Muslim or Jew or What ever. The three religion are different and distinct in practice and ways. Did I say anywhere that Palestinians are predominantly Jews? Again, Both Israelis and Palestinians are Arabs - do your research. There is nothing like Christians or Moslems have Jewish heritage. Jew is a religion that practice Judaism Christian is a religion that practice Christianity. Moslem/Muslim is a religion that practice Islam. This is very simple and you need to get that understanding so it can inform your further conversations. |
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Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:19am On Sep 22, 2025 |
nairalanda1: LOL...monopoly is complete control of the entire supply of goods and services in a market.
Dangote is competiting with imported petrol, and also with five other refineries and then BUA refinery will be on stream in a few years
In cememnt, there is dangote cement, and then there is lafarge, ibeto, mangal, and BUA cement.
If Dangote had a monopoly, all the others will not exist.
Na you wey no know wetin monopoly be...that is why you are asking rhetorical quesitons , because you have been beaten and you know it.  Go back to school or Google and study monopoly again, with emphasis on the various types of monopoly and monopolistic situation. Also get an understanding of the features of monopoly. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:17am On Sep 22, 2025 |
yorosstores: You probably miss this part. "In fact, if they truly believe in competition, they could even come together and acquire the Port Harcourt Refinery and see if they can succeed where NNPC could not."
Over the last ~18 years, the government has granted over 57 refinery licences to private investors. How could we accuse Dangote of monopoly when he has taken steps to construct and begin operation. Where are the other licensees, what is stopping them. Dangote?  I didn't miss that part; that is the reason I suggest: "As for DAPPMAN, they really should look into setting up some refinery business of their own". You lack deep understanding of monopoly and I guess you didn't study economics or business related courses. Maybe you should avail yourself an opportunity to study monopoly and economics at large. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:14am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Eniitankorede: I think you got things wrong. Dangote has not prevented anyone from setting up a refinery. It is therefore not a monopoly. He has not also stopped staff from joining unions. All he says is that people should not be compelled to join unions. Nobody is compelling Dangote Refinery staff to join unions. If you have such evidence, please bring it to the open or floor. I also never said Dangote Refinery prevents other refineries or people from setting up refineries. That is not within Dangote's control; federal government through her agencies already issues licences for several other refineries. Go back to school to study monopoly. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:11am On Sep 22, 2025 |
psalmsjob: How can someone's staff be controlled by another person?.... Worker's Unionism itself is exploitative. What is workers right if not the rights given by her employer? If a company is not treating you right resign so as long as your right to resign is not taken away then your right is intact  You can't understand until you become a victim of your employer. Besides, unions are legal entities, established by law and binding on all organizations as long as the staff push to join applicable and preferred unions. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:08am On Sep 22, 2025 |
yemre: I agree with you where you said DAPPMAN should look into setting up some refinery business of their own. But you see this your stand on Dangote being a capitalist and preventing external influence, I want to believe that you're a stakeholder in the opposition who sees Dangote as a threat!
I will approach this issue from an ordinary Nigerian standpoint as we used to think that all of us want this country to move forward and knowing that one of the major issues we have in this country is fuel. Now a refinery has been able to solve that problem and issues are coming up from external unionism. This doesn't make any sense.
If they have issues, they should call him to a round table for a reasonable negotiation and not try to dictate to him how to run his own personal business.
I would love a situation where DAPPMAN members come together to build a bigger refinery to rival Dangote. He's not the only one given a license to build. Dangote Refinery management has an alternative to engage in dialogue with the unions. The unions are established by law and the Constitution of Nigeria allows freedom of association. Dangote refinery should allow her workers join whatever legal labor unions they prefer and that is applicable to them. They are not dictating how to run his business to him. They are demanding that the management should allow the workees to join preferred unions without victimization. Dangote refinery started it by trying to preventing their truck drivers from joining union in the recruitment arrangements and documents. That was what sparkeed the face off. Simple. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 11:03am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Educationalserv: Which monopoly 18 companies where granted permit to build refinery Nupeng and ptd can open their own union based refinery and stop feasting on somebody else hard . NUPENG IS NOT A PRODUCER OR MANUFACTURER! Go and study about a presurr group. |
Politics › Re: The Dangers Of Dangote's Free Delivery Of Petroleum Products by Wallade(m): 10:59am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Jokay07: Let's adopt the same transportation business in our conversation. I believe that certain government policies must be put in place and enforced in a sector before Certain individuals can claim monopoly. No individual can monopolize a sector or resource without the backing of the government. Speaking of CHISCO and GUO, was there ever a time that government said all commuters must use or travel with their buses? Is it proper to say that the owner transportation company like GIG is trying to monopolize the transportation sector just because he added Logistics service and home delivery service to his transportation business? Secondly, you can't be talking about free entry and exit and still be talking about monopoly. You see? Your submission lacks proper cordinate, shallow, substandard and not applicable in a real business world. So, it is either you don't understand what "monopoly" is all about or you don't understand what you posted. Please I am not here to talk about textbook monopoly as you were taught in school. Please answer the bolded question You don't want to talk about text book monopoly as I was taught in school so where did you get your own understanding of monopoly? Is it from your imagination? GIG and GUO and other leading transport companies can't properly be compared to Dangote Refinery. Dangote Refinery refines petroleum products, it is a major buyer of Crude Oil operating in Nigeria. It also now trucks the petroleum products from it's loading bays at it's depot to the various buyers. It has a wholesale arrangement with RANO Oil and a few other retailers. Currently there is no organization operating in Nigeria with such capacity. That my friend or foe is a big monopoly at play. Dangote Refinery is currently operating a monopoly and when the new refineries come on board, we will have a monopolistic situation in nigerian downstream petroleum products industry. In many of Dangote's businesses today Dangote is in a monopolistic situation in those industries. It may interest you to study the features of a monopoly market and tell me if it doesn't depict what you see with Dangote Refinery: 1. Single Major Seller: A monopoly market is characterized by a single major producer controlling almost the entire supply of the product or service. 2. Price Maker: The monopolist has the power to set prices independently, often leading to higher prices and reduced consumer surplus. 3. Lack of Close Substitutes: Monopoly products typically have no close substitutes, giving the monopolist significant pricing power. 5. Profit Maximization: Monopolies aim to maximize profits by setting prices where marginal revenue equals marginal cost, often resulting in higher prices and lower output levels compared to competitive markets. I will advice you go back to school and study economics at large or at least, study monopoly. This will help you to improve on communication, deepen your understanding of economics and business environment and make your position more understandable. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 10:36am On Sep 22, 2025 |
jaxxy: Did Palestinians tell u they are Jewish? Jewish and they are Palestinians at same time? How? where did they get the name Palestine from? who gave them that strange name?
I know of Jews in judah and Israel I don't know of Jews in Palestine. I don't know of Muslims Jews either unless they converted along the line just like Christian Jews but their history must come from Israel or judah.. Your ignorance is so obvious. Why don't we ask your ancestors where they got your surname or how your ancestry became? Who are Christian jews? You have internet on your phone but you can't read. Christians are not jews! Jews practice Judaism while Christians practice Christianity. Do you know that the population of Israel that is Christian is about 2%. The population of Israel that is Muslim is about 18%. The Jew population of Israel is about 73%. Do you now see your hypocrisy and ignorance. You seem to be one of the Christians blinded by sentiments when analysing the Israeli-Palestinian issue. In your bible, did you read about the Philistines? Who are you to determine the history must come from Israel or Judah? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 10:31am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Harnny: Are Jews a tribe or a religion? It is a religion. Jews refer to people who practice Judaism. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 9:36am On Sep 22, 2025 |
nairalanda1: Dangote is not running any monopoly anywhere...not in cement, not in refineries.
There are other licence holders in the refinery sector that have not started work or refused to start work. Yes, subsidy prevented them, but now subsidy is gone. Instead of attracting funding, dem go play
There are five other refineries working...then BUA refinery is coming up.
Same for cement...there is mangal, bua, ibeto, etc cement. Let me give you an assignment: Go and study monopoly and different types of monopolies. Write a brief report on your findings on monopoly upon completion of your study. You can drop the brief here for all to see |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 8:47am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Lasisi2023: To president netanhayu May ALLAH subcidice yo heart, all yo tot shall be erased Hamas shall rule again There shall be Hamas state forever
Reported by -- Azeez Ibrahim Hamas is a terrorist group so we are not interested or care for the Hamas group. We are interested and care about the ordinary Palestinians. Their lives matters too. I am not pro Hamas, in fact I am anti Hamas. However, I am pro Palestinian Nation. |
Politics › Re: The Dangers Of Dangote's Free Delivery Of Petroleum Products by Wallade(m): 8:40am On Sep 22, 2025 |
youngsahito: Oga, the refinery that Dangote built was not financed by him alone, CBN gabe him dollar discount and NNPC also have their share in it. Unionisim has been in existence for a long period of time and just because the man is capitalist, he will never accept anything unionisim be it NUPENG or others. The reality now is that our useless govt has failed us leaving us to the mercy of the monopolist Dangote. Nigerians don't learn just because of free delivery, everybody is singing praises of him. Why can't he bring down the price of cement after all all the materials are all locally made. I weep for the ignorant Nigerians Government didn't fail Nigerians on this matter, in fact the government has taken the right decision. It is a free market, government is trying not to influence or control the market. You should expect the market forces, which includes pressure groups like the NUPENG and PENGASSON, to act. That is what you are seeing so don't blame it on government. |
Politics › Re: The Dangers Of Dangote's Free Delivery Of Petroleum Products by Wallade(m): 8:35am On Sep 22, 2025 |
challoxxx: Chief, please advise those major importers to come together and build their own refinery in the country too so they can break his monopoly.
Secondly, must all truckers join only NUPENG? Can’t there be other unions different from NUPENG; that also defend truckers interests?
What role did NUPENG play in these moribund NNPC refineries all these years and they never for one day come out to cry out about what is going on there instead you guys went against selling of the refineries because your greed and corruption.
NUPENG is fighting a selfish battle here; someone is unilaterally changing the oil and gas sector for the better and you all are ganging against him. Your advice to major importers " to come together and build their own refinery in the country too" is very plausible and sound. Yes, there are other unions in the petroleum industry but the strongest and prevalent unions are NUPENG and PENGASSON. You can ask anyone in that industry. So yes, it is expected that all truckers must join strong unions, like NUPENG, to protect their rights and welfare. Again, NUPENG is a pressure group union, it is not a manufacturer or producer or importer of petroleum products; NUPENG owns no petroleum refinery. NUPENG didn't go against selling refineries, they only insisted that the jobs, salaries, welfare, retirement benefits and payoff package of the staff be recognized and captured in the deal with the buyer of the refineries - outline the party that will give the commitment or settle the arrears and bill. The government and the buyers, then including DANGOTE, we're unwilling to discuss or capture the staff bills, remuneration, package or job, in the agreement. If you claim NUPENG is being selfish, don't you think Dangote Refinery is being selfish too. The bottom line is that when you want to protect your interest, jobs, welfare, remuneration, benefits and prevent undue advantage from being taken against you, the other party and some stakeholders see you as being selfish. Advice Dangote Refinery to find a way to navigate this unionism matter, it is not supposed to be an issue. It is the law in Nigeria and several countries around the world to allow unionism at labour. |
Politics › Re: The Dangers Of Dangote's Free Delivery Of Petroleum Products by Wallade(m): 8:18am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Jokay07: The word concept of "monopoly" in dangote fuel distribution is an overstretched imagination of the cabals in the upstream industry. It's as good as saying Transport companies like Chisco, GUO or GIG would monopolize transportation business system in Nigeria. Dangote has money, if NUPENG feels threatened and they truly care for the welfare of Nigeria, let them form a coalition and put their resources together and match Dangote financial power bundle for bundle. When you want to comment on such issues, do some research so your comments can be informative and understandable. In the passenger transportation industry in Nigeria, Chisco, GUO or GIG are actually running a monopolistic cartel. For the business owners in any industry, they are capitalists and monopoly has a huge advantage for them. However, the qualities of free market, if and only if it exists, is free entry and exit and no monopoly. In reality, you should know that there is no market in the world that completely meets those qualities. Again, NUPENG is not a petroleum products producer, marketer or business. NUPENG is a pressure group; association of staff of organizations that are operating in the petroleum industry in Nigeria. They ultimately protect the welfare, rights and remuneration of their members. Hence, they can't be in business of refinery of petroleum products. Dangote conglomerates thrives under monopolies. Dangote Refinery should not prevent staff from unionism. However good the intention of Dangote Refinery is for the staff, the refinery will still utilize the lack of unionism to take undue advantage of the staff. |
Politics › Re: Why DAPPMAN’s Outdated Business Model Crumble Against Dangote Refinery – Otedola by Wallade(m): 8:07am On Sep 22, 2025*. Modified: 9:38am On Sep 22, 2025 |
I agree that Dangote Refinery is not a problem; it is a big solution.
I also see your analogy on DAPPMAN being obsolete and the gradual extinction of Tank Farms in the Nigerian market.
However, a good understanding of Dangote conglomerate would reveal that his businesses thrives on monopolies - he wants pure monopoly of the downstream petroleum products market in the interim.
This will make it very difficult for new entrants into the petroleum refinery business to compete with his structures and dominace..
Dangote Refinery efforts to prevent her staff from Unionism is simply to totally influence and control the activities of her staff and prevent external influences - this can be good but the flip side is when Dangote Refinery takes advantage and exploit the staff, which will happen because Dangote Refinery is a capitalist organization, there will be no pressure group to defend the staff.
As for DAPPMAN, they really should look into setting up some refinery business of their own. |
Politics › Re: The Dangers Of Dangote's Free Delivery Of Petroleum Products by Wallade(m): 7:49am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Op, I completely understand your position and I see what you are seeing.
The ultimate interest of Dangote Refinery is to monopolize the distribution network of fuel in Nigeria. That will give Dangote Refinery an unfair advantage over other sellers or refineries. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 7:17am On Sep 22, 2025*. Modified: 8:45am On Sep 22, 2025 |
GiftofGod77: Historically those lands have been owned by Israel and the Palestinians it's just that it has been changed due to one conflict or the other. The Roman empire decimated the Israeli state sir other foreign countries have once or at other times decimated the Israeli state in historical context so the British only tried to create a Homeland for them after the second world war when the Holocaust took place. I'm terms of a it too much what I mean is sir Israel is a state. A sovereign state with a legitimately elected Government and a constitution with a military to defend itself from external aggression.. so what they are doing is just trying to protect themselves from any attack like what we see on October the 7th when the Hamas in a well orchestrated manner launched that stack which killed approximately 1200 Israelis. So definitely the Israeli state will respond to this threat to its existence and to make things worse the Hamas would then hide in it's civilian areas just to whip up sentiments to it's favour...I have never seen this kind of suicidal strategy because those civilians will never come back. So to me it's not about wickedness but about. Responding to the actions of it's immediate neighbours. Palestinians didn't steal Israelis land, they even vacated some land to be given to Israelis. The British through the UN was too keen to have an Israeli nation to the extent they forgot the need to Simultaneously create a Palestinian nation too. The Palestinians too should have made a demand to have a Palestinian state as a condition for Israel to be relocated to that region when the British and UN pushed for it. Now we have an Israeli government subjecting Palestinian to difficult life, controlling what comes into Gaza in terms of business, food, jobs, basic needs etc. We have Israel decimating the population in Gaza, grabbing lands in West Bank and Gaza and trying to force the Palestinians out of West Bank and Gaza. That is evil and wicked. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 7:06am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Raf4: Hiding behind your index finger?? You don't need any Google before you tell the history of Jews. We know their ancestors from thousands of years back. We know all their ancient landmark structures that are still existing till today. You know far less than Google. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 10:49pm On Sep 21, 2025*. Modified: 7:18am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Raf4: Tell us the history of Palestine/Palestinians in the last 100yrs. Tell us the names of their ancestors, the years they lived and the landmark they built in the so called Palestine. You should be asking Google those questions if you really want to know. Stop the pain you feel on this matter with pain killers. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 10:45pm On Sep 21, 2025 |
GiftofGod77: Hahaha well they may seem so, but they were also robbed of their lands and genocide was metes on them mercilessly by Adolf Hitler ND even in historical context. Like I said they are only being overly afraid and trying to protect their state and to me it's a bit too much. They are surrounded by hostile neighbours... When we're they robbed off their land? Who robbed them off their land? Are Palestinians the Adolf Hitler? Educate me please? Besides, how can you use "a bit" and "too much" In the same statement? Just say Israel's evil and wickedness is too much. It is so simple. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 10:14pm On Sep 21, 2025 |
GiftofGod77: I don't really think so, it's just that they are overly proactive and feel it will be a threat. But I don't think so. They have their own story of suffering too....it's just dear but the fear is unfounded. There is no other way to describe Israel: Israel is an evil, war mongering, land grabber, genocidal, killer of harmless men, women and children. The Israelis are terrible people. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Hamas Publicly Tortures And Execute Three Palestinians In Gaza(photos) by Wallade(m): 10:08pm On Sep 21, 2025 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 10:01pm On Sep 21, 2025 |
Wizardslayer: UK, Canada and the rest are just trying to be politically correct, bcus it won't happen.
There'll be no Palestinian talk more of state. It's just a mere dream and bluff. Shut up! The Palestinian people are bigger than you. Their lives matters and Israel must not define their destiny |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 9:58pm On Sep 21, 2025 |
GiftofGod77: Hmnnn but I thought the Palestinian state matter is just like a political way to settle the conflict? Even if the Palestinians are given a state Israel will still be a strong force to reckon with in the middle East. There should be nothing to fear unless if there are things we don't know.... Israel is evil |
Foreign Affairs › Re: There Will Be NO Palestinian State: Netanyahu To UK, Cananda& Others (video) by Wallade(m): 9:56pm On Sep 21, 2025*. Modified: 7:18am On Sep 22, 2025 |
Botragelad: Go ahead and cry, you really think Israel is a joke? Wrong. This has been the mindset of almost every Israeli leader, past and future. There will never be a Palestinian state next to Israel, maybe Europe can hand over some land when they’re fully Islamized.
Rewarding Hamas with a state would be national suicide for Israel. Whoever comes after Bibi will keep the same mission: no terrorist state on Israel’s doorstep, ever. Shut your mouth and let others make their contributions. We already saw your position. |