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Martinez19:
Religious gods don't exist. Voodoo, charms, witchcraft and other world mysticism are bullshits. There are no such thing as supernatural happenings by supernatural beings, all you have are the natural laws of nature. Fear and respect no pastor, native/doctor, spiritualist etc. They are not special but filled with bullshit.

All sacred/holy books are bunks.

you are lost my friend, every thing look fake to you except you

MuttleyLaff:
No man can curse what God has blessed!
And whom God has blessed, no one can curse
You can't curse what God has blessed!
The Devil can't curse what God has blessed!
You haven't the power to curse whom and what God has blessed.

Jesus is God, whether you believe it or not

I declare that Jesus was born, as God Amighty, in the flesh
but your declaration is the misguided notion that Jesus was born, as an ordinary man, promoted to a God status



You've carelessly forgotten that
"Jesus projected out of God to take the scroll out of His hands"
was in response to the reproduced above quote and it's bolded highlights of yours

My exact words are:
"It's just projection brother
This is a case of Jesus the Lamb, projecting out of God to take the scroll"

And he said,
Thou canst not see my face:
for there shall no man see me, and live
- Exodus 33:20

He is the only one who cannot die. He lives in light that no one can come near.
No one has seen him, nor can they see him.
Honor and power belong to him forever! Amen
- 1 Timothy 6:16

No one has ever seen God.
But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father's heart.
He has revealed God to us
- John 1:18

You flagrantly plucked up Revelation 5:6-7 with no regard for context
It's pitiful to watch how poorly you've been doing in this thread
It looks to me that when you're not dodging ducking and diving from answering questions
you change to catching at straws by dropping frivolous verses

Don't try to understand everything brother.
Sometimes everything is not meant to be understood, just accepted.
Do you know everything about your iPad? No
Do you know about all the interrelated parts of your Benz? No
You just accept the iPad for what it is and using it
You just accept the Merc for what it is and just driving it about or around

JESUS is God. Whether you understand or not, just accept
Mindful of Exodus 33:20, 1 Timothy 6:16 and John 1:18 above,
isnt it a consolation, having Jesus, the closest, anyone will ever get to see God korokoro

John, was in Revelation Chapter 4 and Chapter 5, giving a narrative of events and what he saw when he was in the spirit
It was an experience in the spirit realm and not an outright physical experience

²And at once I was in The Spirit, and behold a throne fixed in Heaven, and upon the throne sat He;
³And He who sat was as the likeness of the appearance of Jasper red quartz stone and of red and white Sardius,
and a rainbow of the clouds which encircled the throne was like the appearance of an emerald;
- Revelation 4:2-3

Notice in Revelation 4:2-3, the peculiar description of He who sat on the throne
No physical descriptions, just splendour and the glory are described

Why dont you read Revelation chapter 4 and Revelation chapter 5
The scroll? a strong angel? But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it?
Revelation 5:1-7? What an emotional read

strange doctrines everywhere. no wonder there are many denominations each twisting and interpreting the Bible to reflect there belief

MuttleyLaff:
The truth you are hiding from

Who, according to walls01's understanding, is Jesus?
Please walls01, is Jesus an ordinary man
or is Jesus God personified

I can only discuss and tell you the truth.
I cant make you believe it brother

Galatians 1:8-9 but though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you let him be accursed.
imagine you saying Jesus projected out of God to take a scroll out of his hands

MuttleyLaff:
It's more effort, to keep up with the truth that Jesus is God
and less effort to cover it up with misguided and misleading untruth that Jesus isnt God

How can people trust the harvest, unless they see seeds of truth sown?
Rocky ground, where there isn't much soil?
Well, our work is not the harvest, our work is to keep planting seeds of truth

Truth crushed to earth, is truth still,
truth that fell beside the road, and the birds came and ate it up, is truth still
and like a seed, under favourable conditions, will rise again

Thank you too for your time and for opened for another topic

my friend stop trying to shove this rubbish in my throat. what do you mean by the truth. it is clear throughout the Bible who Jesus is but you misinterpreted, misquoted the Bible, saying God sent himself but Jesus did not send himself but you said God and Jesus is one being how confused you are.
my brother let us discuss a topic you understand and not this again also stop dropping last comment words to drive home your misunderstanding. thank you

MuttleyLaff:
By all means comment,
but please try learning to type something else than this tired "originators of strange doctrines" repetitive line

bro we have spoken enough on this topic, maybe next time we will discuss a better topic. thanks for your time

MuttleyLaff:
Since I've improved on the post
you should take after your advice, and now read again but this time read out loud and slowly

Every one has power of some sorts, every one has influence of some sorts
You have your power, have your influence
Now Jesus is talking about His sphere of Influence
and promising he that overcome, to be made a pillar in the temple of His God
(i.e. promise to make such person, well respected etcetera, in His sphere of Influence, Power etcetera)

I made the earth, I created the people who live on it.
It was me - my hands stretched out the sky,
I give orders to all the heavenly lights
- Isaiah 45:12

You have to come off that walls ice cream thing. It is milk.
If you do, you would get to know that, this is projection
It's just projection brother
This is a case of Jesus the Lamb, projecting out of God to take the scroll

Walls01, whose hands, that made the earth and created mankind upon it, is that, mentioned, in Isaiah 45:12 above?
Who is talking there?

Double God indeed. SMH
Is that how you understand it? Tut

originators of strange doctrines

MuttleyLaff:
Every one has power of some sorts, every one has influence of some sorts
You have your power, have your influence
Now Jesus is talking about His sphere of Influence
and promising he that overcome, to be made a pillar in the temple of His God
(i.e. promise to make such person, well respected etcetera, in His sphere of Influence, Power etcetera)

I made the earth, I created the people who live on it.
It was me - my hands stretched out the sky,
I give orders to all the heavenly lights
- Isaiah 45:12

You have to come off that walls ice cream thing. It is milk.
If you do, you would get to know that, this is projection
It's just projection brother
This is a case of Jesus the Lamb, projecting out of God to take the scroll

Walls01, whose hands, that made the earth and created mankind upon it, is that, mentioned, in Isaiah 45:12 above?
Who is talking there?

read what you explain again this time slowly

analice107:
You have made no sense. OH dear, I'm not in the mood to take you on this ride across Scriptures.

Bro Muttleylaff pls help this brother here once more.

you see what am saying, your heart has been shut by your belief. Jesus said just as my father sent me so send I u muttleylaff said just as I send myself so send I you. I bet at your level this makes More sense.
originators of strange doctrine

MuttleyLaff:
Lets try and go over this again.
Check back on this thread walls01, (i.e. pages 4-5, I think) you will find me agreeing with you, that the Father sent Jesus
and I also agreed with you, that Jesus didn't send Himself.

If you further check back, you'll read me saying that, God sent Himself to earth
and that He accomplished that by being a human being in the person of Jesus.

For God's plan and the work at hand, there is no other way or other means
Also, that protocols needed to be followed and adhered to, is part of why, He needed to be a human being

Now, tell walls01, is Jesus, to your understanding, God manifested in flesh or not?
To you, is Jesus "son" or "Son"?

you are letting your belief affect your understanding of the bible.
Rev 3:12 Jesus said he that overcome I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. I don't know how you will misquote this as you are known for but clearly this is not God talking. if you read Rev 5:6-7 it shows Jesus the Lamb taking a scroll our of God hand, clearly this is not your double God

analice107:
Why are you jumping right over the scriptures he has been posting to you? And, why do you pretend as tho you don't see the questions he has been asking you?

Try answering those questions let's see how you'd get off.

am not jumping or avoiding any questions. during my conversation with muttleylaff he repeated misquoted a direct passage from the Bible and I discover he is not willing to converse as a Christian. [quote author=walls01 post=61451833]now listen and understand do not use your belief to affect your understanding. Isaiah 9:6 says for unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called wonderful, counselor, the mighty God, the everlasting father, prince of peace.
let us analyse this. his name shall be called; read that carefully. the Bible did not say he is the; God already is the everlasting God not he shall be called. this are names that he will be called. analyse the verse again and get back to me

Jeezuzpick:
Leave them.

Na "big bang" do am.

Rocks colliding in space and somehow sticking together, forming planets (later they will tell us of elastic collision in physics, I don't know how dry stones can inelastically collide), and somehow water show face from melting ice (where de ice from show oooooo!)

Somehow in the raging ocean elements reacted to form protein, something the most advanced labs still have problems doing even now, in 2017.

Toss a grenade in a bucket of mixed paint a billion times, you cannot come up with the Mona Lisa. It took an intelligence (Da Vinci) to put it together.

However, no one can convince an atheist that the universe is not a mistake.

No. They are too intelligent for that.

true, but we cannot allow them to confuse the souls we are trying to win

Neymar1095:
Just imagine nothing sensible or tangible. Christianity is based on assumption and you just proved that. Good day

the things of the spirit is stupidity to a canal man. man wisdom has limit. good day

analice107:
It'll make more sense if we analyze that scripture. Don't assume what it says. Look at it and say word for word what it says.

analyse and misquote and interprete to suit our belief abi

analice107:
Lolzzz, And, you understand the Bible with all the ramblings here? Guy, he is schooling you like a toddler.

funny how you guys turn bible upside down. toddler indeed by saying God sent himself, and misquoting a direct word that Jesus said the father sent me. originators of strange doctrines

MuttleyLaff:
I really and clearly understand Colossians 1:15 went over your head

I accept that, sometimes, some just can't understand how God, the Father, is Jesus too.
You happen to be one, I have come to terms with, that you're blind to seeing this fact
and unable to get your head round the idea and truth that Jesus is same as God (i.e. one being)

you are interpreting a clear word. Jesus said the father sent me, he also said I overcome and sit with my father. and God told Jesus sit in my right hand until I make your enemy your foot stool. I wonder how you guys turn bible upside down.
o I forgot to add just as God sent himself.

Neymar1095:
And i have told you that there is no evidence to show God exists.

no 1. life is clear evidence, no 2. holy spirit is a clear witness. no 3 I and many others can testify to this. of course you will say we are delusional. until you think deep and comprehend the universe and the forces beyond human understanding you will remain blind to the fact

MuttleyLaff:
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
He existed before anything was created
and is supreme over all creation
- Colossians 1:15

You have no point to understand

I've asked enough times, to please produce the quote where you falsely claimed, I said "Jesus sent himself",
and if you cant, to then please retract your slander and tender apologies

Why cant you just produce the quote to show exactly what I wrote or said?
Is it too much to ask or too much a request to carry out?

You are unable to produce the quote where you falsely claimed, I said "Jesus sent himself",
because I never and didn't say "Jesus sent himself"
yet you refuse to retract your slander and tender apologies

OK wallis01, dont worry.
See Colossians 1:15 above?
I am using it, to lower the bar for you to step across and/or jump over
God is Spirit, right?
Now Jesus is, the visible image of the Spirit, invisible God

Importantly, God, coexists as God the Father and Jesus Christ, the Son
You coexist as a father and son, too, dont you?
Only thing different is, God does this as well, but on a higher different level and out of this world dimension

you really clearly don't understand the Bible. you and I are made in the image of God. I bet you do not understand the meaning of first born as in chapter 15. and 13 he said dear son. and 19 it reads it pleased the father that in him should all fullness dwell. in 19 it is clear God gave Jesus special privileges.

Neymar1095:
Are u a comedian

this is not a laughing matter , this is serious. unbelief is getting in the way of common sense

Neymar1095:
Shey you where there when he created the universe. Guy your argument is stall. No points wat so Eva.

still I ask the same question why do you think God is not the creator you must have a valid reason.
God holy spirit confirms he is the creator. I guess you don't believe in spirits either?

Neymar1095:
There is no evidence or prove to show that
God exists . Simple as that.

the evidence is the universe that he created and life itself. except you have a better explanation than I don't know I believe you should stay silent.

Neymar1095:
I don't know.

I said let us use common sense to think about it. I bet you must have reason for saying God don't exist. either way use common sense to explain how life started or why u think God don't exist

MuttleyLaff:
Do you perchance, send yourself on errands, at all?

you don't understand my point, Jesus said my father sent me you said he sent himself. now which verse are you quoting or which Bible version are you using?

Neymar1095:
Do you know what is called the universe

you avoided the question. how did life started let me rephrase.

Neymar1095:
You believe because of the assumption that there is a God or jesus Wateva.
Christianity is based on assumption and that is a Fact

.
you do not belief because of unbelief even though the fact are clear. I ask you a very simple question let us apply common sense, how do you think the universe came into existence?

analice107:
And, pls add this;
Isaiah:9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace

and by this you think it means God sent himself?

MuttleyLaff:
The meaning is, that, just as God sent Himself, so does He send you.

There is no argument whatsover and none anywhere for that matter, as regards to, whether or not Jesus is the same as God (i.e. one being) especially if you agree and accept that it is possible for God to simultaneously and concurrently be in heaven and on earth at any particular point in time

from your above words God sent himself which means Jesus is God then Jesus sent himself simple

MuttleyLaff:
I am glad you understood the "God sent Himself" remark
but please produce the quote where you falsely claimed, I said "Jesus sent himself",
and if you cant, then please retract your slander and tender apologies

Your words might be irrelevant, God's, isnt
You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

Neymar1095:
Belief born from assumption

assumption to you but not those that belief. guys like you try to help explain other people experience. by the mention of the name Jesus everything under, above and on the earth bows I don't expect you understand this. do you even have an idea who are you or how the universe came into existence?

MuttleyLaff:
Whose words are in the quote above? w
alls01's, I guess?
Now walls01, can your word(s) become alive?
Can your word(s) leave you and become flesh?
Can you exalt your word(s) and give it a name that is above every name?
If you cant do any of these and/or none of all, then tell, who do you think is capable to?

this words are irrelevant to what you are quoting

MuttleyLaff:
Chief, there is God ooo
This is what happens, when people misunderstand and misinterpret other people's post
Produce the quote where I said "Jesus sent himself",
If you cant, then please retract the slander and tender apologies

you said God sent himself which means Jesus is God then that automatically means Jesus sent himself

MuttleyLaff:
⁶Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to.
⁷Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form
- Philippians 2:6-7

Seems you can't imagine or don't want to grasp mentally that, God can send Himself, did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ

which version of the Bible are you misquoting?
philippians 6: form of God means he was a spirit. 9: God exalted him not God exalted himself.

MuttleyLaff:
⁶Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to.
⁷Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form
- Philippians 2:6-7

Seems you can't imagine or don't want to grasp mentally that, God can send Himself, did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ

you don't even understand the bible. anyway am still waiting for the verse you quoted. Jesus said the father sent me you said Jesus sent himself. originators of strange doctrine

MadCow1:
God allowed Armed Robbers rob and shoot you in the Leg just so he can heal you to believe more in him..

Then you say If a person believes they will not fall sick.


Then that Demons believe in Jesus but are not saved.

Then you say we have to "KNOW" Jesus yet you still "BELIEVE".. You don't need belief if you know.

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your writing makes no sense. see beyond your unbelief