sonmvayina:


Yes oh, the totality of all spirit... All the spirit both on land, water, air....the entire universe..

Omnipresent means everywhere..

OK

sonmvayina:


You keep separating them, God is the personification of totality of the consciousness of the universe fully embodied.... Not a condemning spirit or being..

At least that is what all the prophet spoke about..

God is a spirit, don't get it twisted

sonmvayina:


That is what I am saying.. God is consciousness, not a man up in the sky and definitely not a jew...

We igbos calls it Chukwu, the yoruba calls it Eledumare... The babylonian called it marduk, etc.. Same being different nomenclature..

my friend I am not talking about man consciousness. I am taking of a spirit being.

sonmvayina:


Judge by who? Is God a human being or a man?

God is the personification of divine consciousness....

I don't know what you are referring to as God. the divine consciousness of man is different from what I am telling you. I am taking about God that created man

Nggs121:


These are the dumb questions I was talking about

Who created the world?
Who encoded our DNA?
Instead of

What series of events led to earths formation?
What caused about the final design of human DNA?

Nobody did either, a series of random events led to what ever you see around you

I know its hard for you retards to accept that there is nothing controlling the world, but search all you want, you won't see

take it easy, and calm down. the series of events that lead to the formation of DNA and the world in general, do we have any proof? imagine science says billions of years ago, don't you find that foolish when there is no proof of even hundreds of years ago

sonmvayina:


Judgment is only for the living.. Never for the dead.. Only pagan religion like Christianity and the likes believe in judgement after death.. Judaism speaks of spirit returning to God and body back to dust.. Ecclesiastes 12 :7 is and ezekiel 18....or joining your ancestors..

whether you accept it or not, every careless words and works well be judged whether in this life or after. the spirit that returns to God will be judged not the dust that return to the ground.

Nggs121:


That is a wrong question

But I will give you something.. Randomness

The bible promises protection for Christians , so statistically, the death rate or rate of negative occurrences native to Christians should be lower

But bro, it is not

In fact the death rate for Christians is higher than any other religion

My mother is a prayer warrior
She has been praying for the same thin for over thirteen years

Has she gotten it? ( I'll let you guess the answer)

a Christian is know by God for he searches the heart and the actions of men not by been a prayer warrior or going to church

Nggs121:


You are just desperate, to believe in something deeper, aren't you?

Oga there is nothing

The only program running is the one encoded in our DNA

Otherwise, everything is random

If armed men were to storm where you are now, no fucking spiritual being would save you

who encoded the DNA?

Nggs121:


Oga there is no middle ground here

There is no god presiding over food or wrong, ready to strike people who defy him

Let me give you an example


Bleep god

Bleep god

Eat my pussy, god

Bleep that cunt

See? I wasn't struck by thunder when I used the lords name in vain

the Bible did not say you will be struck by thunder, you thought so. one day all will be called to judgement whether you believe it or not

Nggs121:
There is no god
Wf kumuyi is just a scammer after your money

Any body who claims to hear voices or see visions is either a liar of schizophrenic

You are a mindless fanatic with no proof of any spiritual being and if you said you have proof, you are a liar

If your god is real ,ask him to strike me with thunder

Liars and deluded sheeo

the testimonies of others is always taken seriously by the court and wise men, be advised.

Finelinks:
LET ME ARGUE ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR PURPOSES OF ACADEMICS.


The problem of evil in the world led me to christianity.
It was same problem that made me question my faith at adulthood.

Ultimately, it's the same problem that may lead me to abandon my faith.

The question Epicurus asked many centuries ago has not been answered.

He asserts that God cannot be omnipotent, omnibenevolent and evil still exists.



Some argued that evil does not exist, that it's a privation of good-- Thomas Aquinas. This untenable.


Could it be that God's hands are tied? This was suggested by Krushner.


I think the best answer is that there is no omnipotence in the literal sense. Acquinas argues that God can only do a logically possible thing. Not otherwise.


I WILL STOP HERE.

this is a simple answer, first you must know who is God and how he operates. God has a way and pattern of doing things and what and how you think has no effect on another man talk less of God

CAPSLOCKED:

FOE GOD SO LOVES THE WORLD... CHRISTIANS ARE COMPELLED TO PRETEND TO EAT HIS SON'S BODY AND DRINK HIS BLOOD EVERY DAY AT MASS.... IF THEY WANT TO MAKE IT TO HEAVEN.




21ST CENTURY PEOPLE...
HOW DOES EATING A FELLOW HUMAN'S FLESH AND DRINKING HIS BLOOD MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

what you don't understand you can't explain. try to understand a thing first by learning. have you seen any blood been drunk or flesh been eating, at least this might have helped your reasoning

MostHated:
Mehn! Whoever came up with this whole idea of religion is the greatest strategist to ever exist! Works perfectly! Multi-trillion dollar industry. Tax free!

religion is not the problem. how life begun is what drives religion and other reasoning. stop a while and think about how life begun, God or no God

Funaki:
Afterlife is the greatest scam sold to men. Someone who has never died before will be teaching with assurance, what will happen when you die.

even life itself is a scam, because we don't understand how man become a living thing

Ynsai:
Nothing! Like all beings including animals, Muslims, Christians and non-religious... we all die and that is the end of it. You people should stop fantasising about your imaginary after life.

don't be in a haste to say after life is imaginary. first ponder how life even come about, whether God or no God

j1mmy:


well, you are living example of why commonsense is scarce in Africa.
You might not understand what I just wrote but hopefully your children or their children might stand a chance!

you and Africa. I bet you are the wisest man on earth. white man.

CAPSLOCKED:


I DON'T KNOW. CAN YOU TELL ME?

you are the one that advice us to teach our kids about science in other for them to be knowledgeable. come to think of this how do we teach our children about life how it came to pass through science that you advice us?

Dottore:

What evidence do you have about afterlife and that it's only a particular religion that is getting it right.

How would U know if the rich is unhappy and that the poor are happier. How cam someone that is defeated on earth claim victory in heaven. The brainwashing don do abeg

I did not say poor are happier than rich people read one words carefully. I said rich people can also be unhappy meaning money is not everything. the rest part of your argument I leave it to the level of understanding

ollah2:



Thank you. It was really nice discussing with you while exposing the hypocrisy and bigotry in God.

Enjoy your Sunday sir

thank you too, you are not God neither did you create life so you cannot determine the rules. you only determine the rules of what you have. life and God become simpler when you understand who God is and his purpose of creation
Have a nice day

ollah2:


Surely I'm arguing intelligently and you have made me understand that whatever happens to human regardless of whom the person is and where it happens, dead is dead. But a killer, ritualist et at will be forgiven once he has repented so he can win souls for God. Ain't that a perfect and miracously God?

I understand perfectly now.

dead is dead" I like that. also only true repentance is acceptable

ollah2:



Yes which means the innocent and God servants can die as much as possible but the killers et al would be forgiven since they have repented in order to win more souls for God.

Why is he always looking for souls to be won for him when he was watching killers kill innocents and servants?

Perhaps he just love bloodshed like he has always loved it from the OT to NT to this date.

argue intelligently! man is a free moral agent like God, God cannot interfere but will surely judge. hence encourage all to obey the law and win souls so to avoid the law.

ollah2:



He repented and was forgiven. Same way killer, ritualist, terrorist et al will be forgiven once they repent like Cain while those at the receiving end are dead, buried and forgotten.

yes, we all have sinned and hope to be forgiven if we truly repent. a repentant soul really is better than a dead sinful soul cause he tries to be a better person bringing souls to God And making the world a better place to leave. he makes corrections and teach people not to make same mistake hence God loves repentant souls. death comes in any way, be prepared to die but righteously. live a righteous life so when you die you can make heaven,

Dottore:

Why is it that it's only the poor that suffer as a result of sin. poor men waste in jail for shoplifting without arms. Why are the public office holders not suffering from their perpetual sins of looting. Hosting nude parties with young girls almost every weekend, robbing public funds and all that. Their children keep getting better positioned in life and living big.
Why is it that Gowon is hale and hearty despite his atrocious acts to South Eastern Nigeria.
All the past looters are alive and happy and living big with their families:
Babangida, Obasanjo, Buhari. Jonathan all the past and present governors of the 36 states.
Why are leaders of developed countries intimidating and exploiting smaller ones with direct and indirect attacks that end up wasting many innocent people. Look at Syria. Libya, Iraq etc
Why are Boko Haram attackers still free and striking so are ISIS and Hamas and a host of others.

Why why why!!!
TeeTeem others oya respond

my friend you pay too much attention to this life, their is another life more important than this. as long as you are in this life repentance is available to all according to God grace and judgement don't come speedily like you think. judgement is determined by God when, time and season. whether in this life or after. people always make the mistake that when one is rich he is blessed and happy, my brother that is far from the truth. also death is not the worst punishment, I assure you.

ollah2:


I understand life and have read the bible. Does answer the question that God will protect and forgive you despite all the bad things you have done like Cain while the innocent and his servants are dying like cockroaches

you don't understand the story of Cain, God forgave Cain like any other person that repent truly. my friend you are more concerned about this life, the Bible says the righteous die but no one understands, it is to take them to eternal life. read the story of Stephen how he was brutally killed. their is another life my brother be more concerned about that

j1mmy:
See how whites brainwashed African people with religion.
Some have gone mad from the fiction.

Lost generation of oxymorons, maybe their next generations will have commonsense hope!

you don't even know Christianity did not originate from Africa and the largest followers is not even from Africa but the developed world. a world as developed as USA

j1mmy:
See how whites brainwashed African people with religion.
Some have gone mad from the fiction.

Lost generation of oxymorons, maybe their next generations will have commonsense hope!

you don't even know Christian is not from Africa and the largest followers is not even from Africa

PUSSYBBQGRILLS:
He loves and disciplines with love.

but wait, which of the Gods are we referring to. Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Olodumare, Amadioha etc.....

don't be deceived or confused by the different names God is called. there is only one God the rest are idols

ollah2:



Since he doesn't interfere then it's means his servant and innocent can die as much as possible. People can die in churches, hospitals and elsewhere due to one factor or another. Innocent can't easily be killed and nothing happens because God is not interfering. Then those perpetrators would be protected and forgiven like he did to Cain while the dead is dead. That God is confused

you still don't understand life. when you see events happening you can't tell why it happened. if you read the Bible you will understand better. their is reward for all things you see good or bad, death is not the end my friend it is judgement time

Sharpshooota:
There is no such thing as the world coming to an end...
Your world ends once you die ..


But I really wish the world would end..
This life is meaningless
I have thought about it
It's all a mirage
Vanity

something you did not know how it started or how long the world is in existing

safarigirl:
The difference between the events happening now and those happening back then is the INTERNET

Do you know how many terrible things happened back in the day that people never learnt of because they didn't have means of communication?

The whole thing is just blown out of proportion these days because of the internet and sendationalism

The world is without end

you speak with so much certainty, but wait how did this world came about in the first place?

ollah2:



If he wasn't fine with it, how come God watched Cain kill abel without destroying Cain for it and even went far to protecting him. He protected him to the extent that he fvcked her sister and nothing still happened which means he was fine with whatever Cain did.

God created man has a free moral agent. why he did create man created man to be like him thus cannot interfere with the decisions of man, he only can judge but not interfere, that is why you see all kinds of unbelievable stuffs in life cause everyone is free to do what is in their heart. but he will bring all souls to judgement.
incest was part of God plan for man to fill the earth. ones that is accomplished the law came to separate man from animals.
in conclusion God forgive Cain hence protected him. God is a forgiving and loving God not willing for any to die but to repent and enjoy grace in fullest

Olateef:
What have we blacks done to deserve this brain..

the Bible is written by the white and they have the highest number of believers