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LucemFerre:
Then again, why do you separate a "creator" from "natural process?"

I don't know, my brother. He has a predetermined description of the creator in his head which is preventing him from being open-minded. Anything could be the creator, even the hypothetical point of infinite mass that supposedly catapulted everything into existence.

FOLYKAZE:
Troll. . . .

Leave me

Why am I trolling? You're unwilling to address the merits of my argument. That's on you, God. I demand to speak to ori apesin number 2. Hahaha.

FOLYKAZE:
When atheists are put into a dark corner where they cant see Jesus/Mohamed, they only blab with their disturbing noise.


Agentofallah, finfayo, platteon, ya comrades cannot get a way through this:

Your name is God, do something. Or should I address the ori apesin in your person?

FOLYKAZE:
The thread is all about Atheism and religion.

What ya got to add than attacking my person?

It stopped being about atheism when you decided to pretend that you were a dullard. I'm never having a serious discussion with you again. It's all personal jibes and jokes from now on. So get used to it. It's my style of trolling. I can't go 100% r)etard like you can on a whim. You remind me of the Tugg Speedman character from Tropic Thunder.

Making love: no spanking, no daddy or any name calling. Maximum of two positions, missionary and cowgirl.

Having sex: spanking allowed, dirty language allowed, every position allowed, especially doggy. Load must be shot on surface of the body as confirmation of damage done.

I don't think Folly God is stu.pid. I think he's trolling for some reason unknown. Gotta give him credit though. He has no sense of pride, or shame, whatsoever. That can be an advantage in life if used correctly. Hahaha.

FOLYKAZE:
But you acknowledge I exist and I am a god.

Do you disbelieve in my existence?

You ARE God. A lot of people seem to be influenced by your foolishness. But I'm still an atheist.

jokesmaster:
Atheists Are Simply Brainwashed Fools And Idiots SMH!

The real idiots are the ones who capitalise every word in a sentence like the title of an APA paper. Your own God must have denied you wisdom.

FOLYKAZE:
This is all you can resort to?

I am a god.

I exist.

You hateist can go fvck yourself.

I don't acknowledge your divinity, Folly. But if you prefer to use the word God to refer to yourself, instead of using more precise nouns and adjectives, then God it is.

I'm still an atheist though, notwithstanding your arbitrary choice of nomenclature. Got it, God?

jes7:
I have not referred to any book here so don't jump to another argument. All I have said is that it is more plausible to infer an intelligence behind something as complex as the human mind than to say nothing did it or that it is a product of chance. If you disagree with what I have said can you give a more plausible explanation for the origin of life and the wonder of the coded information in the DNA?

I agree with you. And now what? How does that realization affect my position as an atheist?

jes7:
I am not trying to prove anything here, I am only responding to the weak argument that says for us to prove there is a creator we have to keep proving there is a creator of the creator. But if you need a prove that God exists, there are many proofs. On the other hand I am very sure you cannot prove that God does not exist.

As far as Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are concerned, reaching a consensus on a creator of the universe advances us nowhere. We're still locked in the room with the hungry 800lb gorilla. If you say that there is a creator, and keep quiet after that statement, then I wouldn't have much of a rebuttal. Things don't jump out of nowhere, at least not in objective reality.
But that's not what you're saying. You're not only saying that there is a creator, but you claim to have the book that this creator dictated to a handful of white people. I've looked into the claim thoroughly, read the book, carried out the rituals and incantations, and determined that it is a scam. The creator is obviously not the humanoid alien from the Abrahamic religions.

FOLYKAZE:
Ori Apesin one who is worthy of worship by many. Lot of people gather to venerate and revile.


What does this have to do with definition of god?

If you dont have anything meaning to add to this thread, you can as well join praise singers.

LOL. See who's been providing meaningful contribution. Folly, you are truly one hell of a case.

FOLYKAZE:
Do you as an athiest disbelieve in the existence of god defined as influencial person?

Really? Don't you have any shame left in your ori apesin, sir?

finofaya:
[size=16pt]You're so dogged.

It's a rather trivial point you're insisting on.

If you ask for clarification and a person tells you which meaning of a word they are referring to, any further misunderstanding about the meaning of the word is your own problem.[/size]

He's a confirmed troll, or did you think I was joking? HAHAHA. Either that or he's a re)tard. I've been through this silly semantics business with him a while ago, only for him to resurface here and behave like a pinhead. I don tire for this person.

I've already been through this with Folly. He's a confirmed troll.

Ganoderma:
So who is mother Nature and who created her?

And what is the basis of that belief?

Why would you ask me who created Nature, when you will later tell me that the bible God is uncreated? Did I not just tell you that Nature, based on observation, is GOD?

Awoofawo:
Most black people have been brain washed to the point that, anything black is see as denoting evil!

What is so wrong in a baby with black complexion, isn't that african natural complexion?

God is white, Jesus is white, Mohamed is white, Pharaho is white, Solomon is white, Mose is white, Our history is being rewrite by white: To all these no problem, until a shade of black is spot in any, it then become a problem .....to who?
A black person......

This baby is not a person. Check out the eyes, those cannot be real eyes.

Ganoderma:
Ok! So tell me what do you beleive

My own lying eyes and ears. Just like your biblical Thomas.

On a more serious note, I believe that mother Nature created everything. Don't ask me how, unless you expect me to fabricate answers like the bible.

Ganoderma:
Prior Observation! Let me ask Observation of what?

The Earth revolves round the Sun for approx 365 days give or take 1 day.

The Earth spins on its axis for exactly 24 hours. And it has done that since forever. It has never changed. Have you ever wondered what powers the Sun that it never goes out. The Earth is in constant state of motion. What propels the Earth? What fuels it that it has never stopped for once?

The magnetic shield on the Earths surface has never disintegrated despite the Sun's unrelenting nuclear barrage. Who put that shield there?

You are able to board a heavy aircraft that relies on specific laws of gravity and motion to stay put in the air. It consistently stays in the air because those laws are constant. Who put those laws there.

You studied in Geography that the moons magnetic pull on the earth is responsible for the ocean tides. Who put the moon there? Where does it get its magnetic force from?

Man is able to launch a satellite into space and accurately calculate which orbit it needs to be to fully function and they have never missed it. The satellites stay in orbit and never disappear unless there is a malfunction from the satellite itself. Who made that possible.

Do you want me to continue?

Could all of this things come just by blind chance with all the precision and purposefulness. I have not even quoted on single portion of the bible and yet I can still bring up all of these.

It would take the greatest magnitude of self-denial to maintain that God does not exist. Deep down within you, you know that this denial is all a farce. And I find it really comical, the way you so passionately PRETEND that you really believe there is no God. Too bad for you your life has no direction. It must be a life of misery.

You're arguing like a child and running around in circles. So it was the bible God who arranged everything? How do you know that? Did he tell you this himself, or did he tell a white man (according to the white man), to tell you this?

Ganoderma:
And what is wrong with Faith?

The bible says God had no beginning. As unfathomable as that may sound, we accept it by faith, because there is so much we don't know about God, except the things he has revealed to us. If he chooses not reveal his beginning to us yet, we just have to accept it by faith.

It takes an even greater amount of faith to believe that he doesn't exist. There are too many things in life that counters that belief.

The Bible says God has no beginning. Is that what the God told the white people to tell me? Where have you seen aliens talk to white people in real life?

The God has revealed nothing to you yourself, but you believe that he revealed something to some now dead white people. And they wrote it down.

SMH.

Looking at a bicycle and calling it an Audi is not considered an act of faith. At least to me. Faith is based on evidence, like prior observations. Unless you can show me that this God talks to people, the bible is just another gimmick.

Joshthefirst:
Evil is not an entity. I seriously don't know where these guys come up with this nonsense. Evil is the nature of ones character, not an entity that can be uploaded or downloaded into a mainframe.

Its a shame people don't really think these days.

Don't argue with me. It's your brothers that you need to convince. I know what evil is.

Joshthefirst:
How do I know? I dared to think about it. You do not. You even dismiss logical ideas as religious notions.

But yes. I do not worship an amorphous entity.(I told you to start reasoning). The creator of the universe cannot be amorphous in any way, as this universe itself could only come about by an act of volition. You haven't thought about this have you? Didn't think so. I daresay most of the guys bashing God here haven't dared think or reason in any way about matters such as this. You simply dismiss everything and any concept of deity as religious notion then go on to use the premise of religion to deny the existence of deity.


Foolishness.

You must be new to the discussion, dude. I'm sick of rehashing the same old talking points. The word God means nothing unless it is defined. That discussion has been exhausted here.


God to me is the source of the universe. To you, it is the author of the bible. The Muslim says it wrote the Qur'an. Your God talks, mine doesn't. I have proof that my God doesn't talk to human beings, you have ZERO evidence that your God does.

Hiswordxray:
I don't know.
The Bible only tells us that evil was found in Lucifer.

Who put the evil in Lucifer? Magic?

Joshthefirst:
You keep foolishly aligning humanity into different religious or irreligious groups. You actually think God is sidelined by a form of religion or a lack of religion. Smh. I want you to begin to reason now man. Don't you consider yourself a reasonable person? From your standpoint, if a true all-powerful God existed, what makes you think he will be limited to any individual's religious or irreligious affiliation? We will all stand before him and give account. He is too big to be classified. It is foolish to polymerize or classify God in a bid to justify an imaginary notion of unbelief. Enough said.

God only sees mostly two kinds of people: Men who have been justified and accepted salvation from sins that will take them to hell, and men who have rejected salvation in a bid for foolishness and love of wrongdoing. You do the math for where people in those groups will end up.

If God isn't limited to religion, why are you still here talking about giving account in front of him? Why are you calling God a him? How do you know that there's only one God who doesn't have parents? Your entire comment reeks of a Christian bias brother. You have already defined God in your head, and your definition is clearly based on the bible. So defend your bible God, and quit pretending that you're worshiping an amorphous entity.

Hiswordxray:
Jealousy is directed against evil and since Lucifer had unit himself with evil then he is going down with evil.

Where was evil before the merger with Lucifer?

Joshthefirst:
When did I mention truth relies on faith? I said faith is a response to truth. Faith in God to be precise. Truth is objective and relies on nothing and no one.

So Muslims are going to hell too, along with the atheists, wealthy people, and almost all Christians. That is, if your assessment is on point.

Treat her like Gadaffi. Sticks and debris should enter her own yansh.

This number 2 position is due to sheer volume of materials released every year. It's not unusual for a Nollywood actor to shoot 3, 4, 5 movies in as many weeks.

malvisguy212:
good, as the writer say God is jealous, he was not making mistake,what he was trying to say is God is zealous, as you claimed,if the story is perfectly Jewish myth, the writers could not have made this mistake, right?

Jewish myth that perfectly made some astonished claimed which science did not confirmed it until now.

Perfect myth? What is that? These people have reduced your arguments to gibberish. You don't even know what you're talking about now.
What is a "perfectly Jewish myth?"

Hiswordxray:
Like I said there is no sitting on the fence.
If you think you are sitting on the fence then you are deceiving yourself.

OK, so two parties. The jealousy is directed at evil or Lucifer.

Yakubu made plenty of cash at Middlesbrough. He was more dangerous than Bony is now.

Hiswordxray:
To God there are only two parties; good or evil.
human must choose to be a part of any of this two and there is no sitting on the fence.
It is either you are part of good or you are part of evil.
God alone is good and those that are on His side are part of good. But anything outside God is evil and you cannot sit on the fence.

Choose wisely my friend.

Like I said, Good, Evil, and the fence-sitting human being are the parties. That makes three.