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Horus:
A lot of Africans are Christians and Muslims worshipping Caucasian and Arab religion. You are looking at their races as good. You worship other than self and kind, and that’s bred into your DNA to keep you suppressed and not to transform. Religion is racism, it breeds racism.

Thank you. That's why I don't bash Gatiano for pasting his afrocentric mythology here.

Holding their foreign religions as the truth has a subliminal effect on the consciousness of Africans. When I was a believer, Jesus was a white man in my head. I was offering prayers to an imaginary white man.

5solas:
Atheist right?
Bad news for you is that God cannot be frustrated. He will always achieve His purpose whether you like it or not, know it or not . That's the honest truth and for you trifling with His revealed will,there is a big pay day coming soon as you have heard afore.

I was programmed as an atheist, according to you. It's out of my hands.

Btw, have you solicited the opinions of other Christians on this matter? This is my first time hearing this predestination business.

5solas:
How does that sound to you? "The things you do are not your own?"
The good or evil you do, you do ,as far as you are concerned freely, though you can't do otherwise as He foreknew and purposed.
Logically then you at once jump to the conclusion that man cannot be culpable for those sins. Sad truth (for you) is that the Bible says they are. I am telling you the Bible's position.

So basically we're living in the Matrix and the God is Mr. SMITH.

Ubenedictus:
calm down dear, you don't need to get worked up.

It is possible to believe Jesus died for you without believing he was penalised in your place. Atonement doesn't mean taking God's wrath, it means offering him a gift, an offering, a payment that appeases him and averts his wrath. the old sacrifices didn't perfectly satisfy for sin because they were inadequate. Jesus made an offering that please his father.

Have a nice day.

The offering was his death, or "pretend death" since he really didn't die. When you offer someone your head in place of your little daughter's, it's not the same as giving them a Lexus or Range Rover. There is an assumed intention of reciprocity if you must die in order to appease the anger of someone. Death is not a gift. The families of murder victims don't consider the demise of death row inmates as "gifts."

gabe15:
if i dont fall sick den cum nd kill me

And after 7 years what happens then? Good health will return? Hahaha. Curse betta curse, my brother. Break his legs like the Mafia or something.

Misogynist2014:
If I say something has no solution, that doesn't mean there is no solution outside my knowledge and human possibilities (spiritual, which you are failing to exploit), that is what I said. Though atom is self existent, it is obvious it can be sourced out from Higher power, without controversy. Then we need to compare life from atom(interestingly enough, not everything in the universe has an atom!) with life from an Everlasting God (non intelligent and intelligent) i.e Life from God and atom, requiring only a Yes or No.

If you talk to your God and he talks back, what's the point of providing such a convoluted answer? There should be an easier way of demonstrating his existence.

joviegghead:
it's simple. God knows the future. That was why he told adam and eve the repercussions of eating or not eating the fruit. In addition,God gave dem the opportunity to choose. Simply put,God can look into the future,but limits his use of it because doing so will mean encroaching d gift of free will. It will also mean God is wicked.it's like a father who knows&sees his children get hurt,but does nothing when he his infact the one who put them in that situation. If God were also to interfere,it will mean he's controlling them. So,to avoid tampering with his gift of free will,he simply and lovingly gave all his creatures,like adam and eve,laws and principles along with the repercussions for following or rejecting them.so it was left for adam and eve to choose. Whatever was to be their choice in the future was never looked into by God because doing so will mean he knows their action and never stopped them-making him wicked and uncaring. And if he stopped them- it would mean God was controlling them when tHey should be the one making decisions for themselves cuz they,aren't robots but humans with the right to choose.

So the God is like a child with a smartphone and a Google browser. Where does he keep the database that has all the information? Please don't tell me that it's in his head.

Ifeann:
driod is a nick name for android phones.. it was made popular by Motorola driod series... do u see how u expose ur ignorance. I have a driod phone.

And again u show u have a problem with verb usage. U should have said committed not committing.

Droid. Swype won't misspell "droid" on Android phones. That's the second word in the Swype dictionary after "Android."

Anyway, lemme remove my leg from your matter.

CAPTIVATOR:
Johny , I must say I admire ur intelligence so much ... Have been followin ur discussion from page 0 with that religious guy ! But ur points are very valid .

If God know that Adam and Eve would sin, then their freewil is tampered with . Exactly, and that will mean they are not different from programmed robots .

But if on the other hand , God have the power to know .. But use self - control (one of his vital attributes) from knowing such, then the freewill is not tampered with. (comp. Gen)

So the God doesn't know, until he types the name of the person in his own Google search box? Then the bible should have said so. Maybe the devil is trying to steal that computer database that the God uses for his investigation.

jpaul5:
Whenever the issue of Prophet T.B. Joshua comes up, I would like to remind people that we should be careful of what we say. A look at TBJ’s track-record will show his words carry weight. He has, on many occasions, made predictions that came to fruition, hence the reason why people tend to take note whenever he talks.

The facts on ground here on clear - the prophet told congregants to pray from 19th to 23rd March to avert a plane crash. He re-emphasised his message on Sunday 22nd, specifying that he had also been praying astutely to avert this impending calamity. Alas, on Tuesday 24th March, the following day, the plane crashed in France, plunging 150 souls to a premature grave.

We are not in any position to explain the exact spiritual outworking in this case but you cannot deny that TBJ has spoken concerning this.

March 19-23 were the possible dates in his vision. The plane crashed on the 24th. If you weren't a shameless person, you would have admitted defeat. Instead you're here begging people to accommodate your atheist prophet.

If TB Joshua believes in ANY God, then I'll remove my left nut.

efilefun:
Have you for once read the Quran Well there are alot of people who give different meanings to the words of the holy prophet... Have you for once asked yourself why haven't there been any terror attack or nonsense act from where ISLAM originated from ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE A MUSLIM WHO TRULY UNDERSTANDS THE WORDS OF THE QURAN IN SUCH ACT, Saudi Arabia where The prophet lived his life can be described as the most peaceful country in the world.

Mind you even the words in the bible had been given different meanings thats why you will NEVER see a CATHOLIC attend CELESTIAL CHURCH.

May the peace of God be with you, but next time don't say such again.

Are you well? Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers were all from that place. Wikipedia has a list of Saudi terror attacks.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Saudi_Arabia

overhypedsteve:
makes you wonder why he cannot be extradicted to be tried in a proper Nigerian court.

The crime was committed in Indonesia. Nigerian courts have no jurisdiction in Jakarta.

"If I don’t believe what I am doing, I will close this church and look for another business out there"

-TB Joshua

There is no other business that can compete with the tax-free operations at the synagogue. Shut up. Deceiving his mother and children.

wordcat:
Most of the popular pastors we know today are all Atheists.

True talk. I've said it here before. Every faith healing church is run by an atheist pastor. I'm willing to bet my left foot.

Only sincere people question the bible. The ones who try to stymie honest inquires are all full of deceit and lies.

tartar9:
The Qur’an says very clearly that
there is only One God, Allah. “There is no god
but Allah” is the basic principle of Islam.
There
is no ambiguity about this fact in the Qur’an
and there are hundreds of ayat or verses of
the
Qur’an that make this point very clear. Belief
in more than one God is Shirk (polytheism)
and
a major sin according to the Qur’an.
Whenever in the Qur’an Allah is mentioned in
the third person there are always singular
pronouns used, such as He, him (Huwa or Hu)
.
Whenever Allah is spoken to in the second
person there are also singular pronouns, such
as Thou, Thine and Thee (Anta, Ka). However
only in the first person some times the
pronouns I, My or Mine (Ana, Iyaya, ya) are
used and sometimes We, Us and Our (Nahnu,
Na) are used.
This is a style of speech. Sometime the
speaker says I and sometime says we. We
also use that in our conversations. In the
Qur’an you will see that often the first person
singular such as I or My is used, when Allah
speaks about His love, care and closeness
and
forgiveness for His servants. In a similar way
the first person plural is often used when
Allah
speaks about His power, majesty, glory, great
deeds or when He speaks about His anger and
wrath for the sinners and criminals. (This is,
of course, the general use. Sometime the
reverse is also the case, depending on the
context of the Surah.)
See for example the verses where the first
person singular is used: “When My servants
ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to
them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant
when he calleth on Me: let them also, with a
will, listen to My call, and believe in Me: that
they may walk in the right way.” (al-Baqarah
2:186) Or “Verily, I am Allah: there is no god
but I: so serve thou Me (only), and establish
regular prayer for celebrating My
praise.” (Taha 20:14) or “But, without doubt, I
am (also) He that forgives again and again, to
those who repent, believe, and do right, who,
in
fine, are ready to receive true guidance.” (Taha
20:82) or see another example where both
pronouns are used side by side, “Before them
the People of Noah rejected (their Messenger):
they rejected Our servant, and said, “Here is
one possessed!” and he was driven out. Then
he called on His Lord: “I am one overcome: do
Thou then help (me)!” So We opened the gates
of heaven, with water pouring forth. And We
caused the earth to gush forth with springs.
So
the waters met (and rose) to the extent
decreed. But We bore him on an (Ark) made of
broad planks and caulked with palm-fiber: She
floats under Our eyes (and care): a
recompense to one who had been rejected
(with scorn)! And We have left this as a Sign
(for all time): then is there any that will
receive admonition? But how (terrible) was My
Penalty and My Warning? (al-Qamar 54:9-16)
See also some verses where the first person
plural is used: “We have, without doubt, sent
down the Message; and We will assuredly
guard it (from corruption).” (al-Hijr 15:9) or
“We created not the heavens, the earth, and
all
between them, but for just ends. And the Hour
is surely coming” (al-Hijr 15:85) or “And
among
His Signs is this: thou seest the earth barren
and desolate; but when We send down rain to
it, it is stirred to life and yields increase.
Truly,
He Who gives life to the (dead) earth can
surely give life to (men) who are dead. For He
has power over all things.” (Fussilat 41:39). Or
“Already has Our Word been passed before
(this) to Our Servants sent (by Us). That they
would certainly be assisted. And that Our
forces, they surely must conquer. So turn thou
away from them for a little while. And watch
them (how they fare), and they soon shall see.
Do they wish (indeed) to hurry on our
Punishment? But when it descends into the
open space before them, evil will be the
morning for those who were warned (and
heeded not) (al-Saffat 37:171-177). There are
many other examples.
Christian writers in their desperate desire to
prove their doctrine of Trinity have sometime
interpreted some Biblical passages where first
person plural is used to suggest that this
means the “Divine Trinity”. For example in the
Bible it is mentioned, “Then God said, “Let us
make man in our image¦” (Genesis 1:26).
Christian writers contend that this means that
there is plurality in God (We seek Allah’s
forgiveness for mentioning this blasphemy.)
Sometime Christian missionaries also go to
simple Muslims and try to confuse them by
taking some verses from the Qur’an and tell
them that the Qur’an also supports such
doctrines. I tried to explain this point in some
detail, because I have often heard this type of
questions from some Christians.

I think that these pronouns indicate the absence of an editor. There's no way that a person calls himself WE without being a schizo. Is that how people talk in your place?

Ubenedictus:
i actually liked your comment because I think you have great sense of humour, even though i don't think joking about other peoples beliefs is cool, anyway, I think you'll agree that believing a God that practices favourism is bad enough adding saddist and self hating to the list just makes it worse.

Besides, i do not believe God showed preferential treatment to the Isrealites, i have a pretty bad analogy for it, I'm sure you are aware that before a drug is brought to the open market it is first tried on a small controlled population, would you describe the doctors as been preferential for giving a few people his good drug while allowing others to die?
Well I wouldn't. he covenants before Jesus were preparatory, if you like call it trials drugs, an exibition that prepares the world for salvation, the "preferential treatment" started with a household, d guy d bible calls Noah, a generation with abraham and a nation with moses, those were all steps so that at the right time the whole world may be save through Christ.

It is a bad anology but i think it sticks for a time.

You're quite intelligent. I believe you'll eventually figure the whole thing out.

Rilwayne001:
Surah Al-Hajj 22:5 -- O mankind! If you are in doubt about the Resurrection, then verily! We have created you (i.e. Adam) from dust, then from a Nutfah (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge i.e. offspring of Adam), then from a clot then from a little lump of flesh,— some formed and some unformed (as in the case of miscarriage) , that We may make (it) clear to you (i.e. to show you Our Power and Ability to do what We will) . And We cause whom We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed term, then We bring you out as infants, then (give you growth) that you may reach your age of full strength. And among you there is he who dies (young), and among you there is he who is brought back to the miserable old age, so that he knows nothing after having known. And you see the earth barren, but when We send down water (rain) on it, it is stirred (to life), it swells and puts forth every lovely kind (of growth)



I'll like to see my xtian friends anser to this, malvisguy is already here doing is usual thing, i will like to call upon: pastorkun, francistony, ifeann, allnaijablogger, truthman2012 and co.

Who is this WE that the Quran keeps repeating? I didn't know that there was a trinity in Islam too.

Kay17:
I had always thought Christians and their likes thought God was responsible for all life.

Apparently not bacteria or viruses. Only large animals like cockroaches and poisonous snakes and spiders.

So they were able to locate one dead body after 4000 years simply by identifying a stone lodged in the forehead of the corpse? SMH.

Most of the 4.0 students in my college graduating class were prolific cheaters, especially the Asians. Smartphones were a novelty then, and with the free WiFi on campus, the Asians revolutionized cheating with their devices. In fact, the university eventually passed a law stating that students were prohibited from having wireless devices on them during exams.

negativecreep:
Well said Cold , now some times people asume that people that "dismiss" the "bible" don't know the bible , but that would be a mistake to think so , they probably know "it" better than the "one" who lol "thinks" he's actually knows that the "god" in "it" is really the "true" "god" and goes around "preaching" "it" . Now ok I speak for my self but overall there maybe many, but I don't "dismiss" the bible for good reason for u got to know what u dealing with , now I do give "it" credit "it" is the "theory" that makes this world go round as we know "it" today , for "it" has worked so well , well put "it" this way "to well" and that's the problem of "it" for a "spell" cast only "benefits" the casters of the "spell" and that's all what "its" "intention" is to "benefit" the "casters" as in the "ones" that "implemented" "it" for "intention" is the aim of "its" "ambition" and "game" . And we "comform" to "it" because I know "it" controls all aspect of "human" life on the planet at the "moment" but "not" "life" itself , we brought "it" to "life" , now we got to "hand" shake "it" baby well done what a disgusting place "it" has "made" for "us"

The bible should be among the least of your worries, with compositions like this one. My head is still spinning.

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layinkakeem:
Hahahahaahahahha.

What about man that sleep too much

He busts a lot of nuts. Busting a nut is like taking sleeping pills.

LOL, Ubenedictus is tugging at a loose string, not realizing that it is attached to a house of cards.

For thousands of years, the God supposedly rendered preferential treatment to one small tribe of humans, at the expense, often fatal expense, of everyone else. You didn't see any character flaws in that behavior, but this penal substitution business is the one paining you. LOL.

I didn't see anything wrong with virgins giving birth either, just the part where the husband believed the ghost insemination story. That was my own loose string.

FOLYKAZE:
Because I didnt give you Jesus/Mohammad to devour.

Why not break the rock of ages with your strong shinning sentence construction?


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Pls eat this:

If atheism is disbelieve in supernatural being, do you believe in the existence of non-supernatural deity?

Do you also disbelieve in the existence of deified England kings with their supernatural royal touch attributed to them?

Do you disbelieve in the existence of Sacred kings and divine leaders?

You are God. Is your own divinity that useless? As far as these sacred kings, one must have been God #1 in their lineage. That person was an African, unless the awards for divinity were distributed after the complexion change. Why am I not God, God? God is not even listed amongst my government names.

The boyfriend is not complaining, I'm sure of it. Not if he's having threes/omes every day of the week.

Phoenixfrank:
Mehn you are violating rule no.3
3. Don't THREATEN, advocate, or encourage violent
acts against any person, tribe, race, animals, or
group.

Even animals too? Hahaha. Is PETA monitoring this board?

I'll bet any appendage on my body that this Suleman fella had a meeting with these wizards and witches before hosting the event. Topics of the discussion were compensation for their complicity in the scam, and a script of what to say on the mic.