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hinograce:
Are there Elephants in Edo?

YES in fact they are a lot of elephants in Edo state. if you visit okomu national park. The park is accessible to tourists and has well marked trails. The park has diverse fauna with 33 different species of mammals including the African Buffalo and the endangered African forest elephant. other animals found in the park include dwarf crocodile, red river hog, sitatunga, warthog, civet cat, maxwell's duiker, grass cutters, Mona monkeys, Thomas's galago and tree pangolin. And also 150 species of birds have been identified.

gregyboy:
Who siad they didnt meet the itsekiri they did but Benin ruled over them and occupied thier land to the coast so when the Portuguese came they were directed to the palace it was later after many century before Benin ventured into eko

so u do know the itsekiri kingdom was established in the 15th century. The first Europeans to arrive in what is now present day Nigeria were the Portuguese they first called Benin empire beny during the reign of oba ozolua in 1472 and 1486AD. The Portuguese admitted to finding a very developed kingdom with a very advance system. This visits and subsequent interchanges lead to king John II of Portugal who reign from 1881 to 1895 to exchanging correspondence with the king of Benin on peer like basis.

The similarities between tangut empire, China empire and Mongol empire may have been because Mongol empire used the tangut military in conquering China so during that time they may have traded among one another which may what have brought the similarities in art.

gregyboy:
Probably not lagos delta state

If it was delta state they probably would have met the itsekiri first but if it was Lagos they would first arrive in aworis land that Benin kingdom conquered.

THE last picture belongs to THE GREAT WALL OF EREDO africa largest walled kingdom. Far older than the great wall of Benin.

dlw09:

I am guessing this artifacts must belong to the TANGUT empire. it looks quite similar to the artifacts I have seen in some parts of India and china

goalernestman:
any any where you find Yoruba or oyo is a Yoruba writer that change it or Yoruba editor

any where u find benin are the true europen account of what they saw in Nigeria then

the accurate one is Benin or bight of benin

you should think if it was Yoruba why was the ocean that flows below it not called bale of yoruba or bale of oyo

even lagos first name was given to them by benin who contro the state before it even in the history of lagos till now.

Lagos then was under republic of benin. making it one of the city in benin and where benin later traded with the European

IF what u a saying is true why don't u provide other maps to prove ur claim instead of using the same old map and the oba of Benin descendants may be the oba of Lagos but he got the crown from the aworis who occupied a part of Lagos not all of it. if that is the case then why do we have ijebus in Lagos who claim to be the first settlers of Lagos. The reason I mentioned that not all maps are accurate and I never argued with u about the bight of Benin as I said they may be the most favoured by the Portuguese.

WOW quite impressive how much u know about the TANGUT language spoken by the ancient tangut empire. THE tangut empire also known as the western xia but called tangut by the mongol empire, might not be as large as it but was also quite large covering over 1,000,000 kilometers. IT was subjected by the mongol empire. THIS long forgotten empire is known for TANGUT script an other reason for the famous of this kingdom is the xixia tomb where the xia emperor where buried it longs somehow like the Egyptian pyramid.

goalernestman:
why not google ancient map of Africa

AND WHAT WILL I find out that I don't already know yeah sure u got ur map that clearly shows Benin kingdom conquered all of Nigeria but u have to figure out that not all maps made by Europeans are accurate. Alot of maps I saw always have Yoruba controlled the whole of South west and some even misspelled Yoruba like one map called it YARRIBA and because u could only find one map out of countless u belief ur map is accurate.

dlw09:
WOW

THANKS MAN I REALLY APPRECIATE IT

Mongolia a large country located in the east part of Asia boarded by China to the south and Russia to the north famous for the mongol empire that covered Easter Europe and part of central Europe to the sea of Japan, extending northwards into Siberia eastwards and southwards into the Indian subcontinent, Indochina and the Iranian plateau and westwards as far as Levant and Carpathian mountains. THEIR by making it the second largest empire in the world . The official language spoken in Mongolia is Mongol gained independent from China in July 11 1921.

Mongolia a country located in the east part of Asia famous for the Mongol empire the second largest empire in the world first being the British empire.

Ishilove:
It means animals loves weed

I NA OLA MY EMU which means u are funny but OYE ISI AZU which means u have a fish brain.

[quote author=bigfrancis21 post=75832806]Nsukka people say, era na whi ghi (you are mad). How is that Igbo?[/quo

Listen carefully and pay attention to my words I try to keep this as simple as I can I know you have difficult with comprehension especially things beyond your limited mental faculty There is no tribe called Nsuuka in Delta what they have is USISA or did u mean the Nsuuka in igboland. I am not here to have a language battle but to clear ur misconceptions and ridiculous grouping of distinct tribes has one with the igbo race and if u have nothing important to say then I advise you to keep ur irrational opinion to yourself. I na NZUZU which means u are a fool.

goalernestman:
this Atlantic ocean was called bight of Benin or bale of Benin or under Benin then research bro

IF u had read my previous post u would know that I supported u by saying they possibly arrived through Lagos probably the part that belongs to Benin kingdom.
AND the bight of Benin was probably called that because Benin kingdom was probably the most favoured by the Portuguese.

goalernestman:
1 history can be written but pictures will be difficult to

2 and also i think Yoruba have their own staff i see one with oni of ife why can them transfer some to all this kings using benin staff

this is lagos king and the king of Ondo State using ada and eben of benin empire staff of office

Yet again using the word king of Lagos,he is just a king of a section of Lagos that belongs to Benin and all kings of Yoruba land come to collect their staff of office from ife except ijebu.

goalernestman:
The Powerful Kingdom in Nigeria and first Empire recognized by foreign traders was (Ubini) Edo Kingdom. The Edo King captured many towns such as Eko which is now Lagos and also captured Ijebu and Edo Kingdom was stretched from Ijebu and Lagos to Republic of Darhomey which is now change to Republic of Benin. Respect for the priestly functions of the Oni of Ife was a crucial factor in the evolution of Yoruba ethnicity. The Ife model of government was adept and derived its military strength from its cavalry forces, which established hegemony over the adjacent Nupe and the Borgu kingdoms and thereby developed trade routes farther to the north.

Edoland established a community in the Yoruba-speaking area east of Ubini before becoming a dependency of Benin Kingdom at the beginning of the 14th century. By the 15th century it became an independent trading power, blocking Ife's access to the coastal ports as Oyo had cut off the mother city from the savanna. Political and religious authority resided in the oba (king) who according to tradition was descended from the Ogiso dynasty in Benin Kingdom. Benin, which may have housed much inhabitants at its height, spread over large square km that were enclosed by concentric rings of earthworks. By the late 15th century Edo Kingdom was in contact with Portugal who discovered an Empire of great men with civilization and resources (palm oil, ivory, cotton etc.) which was traded through a trade of import and export of natural resources which has been part of Edo culture. At its apogee in the 16th and 17th centuries, Edo encompassed parts of southeastern Yorubaland,and the western parts of the present Delta State.

That's it man u never listen how many times do I have to tell u that Benin kingdom never conquered ijebu kingdom. If u bother to check records u would know that ijebu kingdom was never conquered by any kingdom and during that time after oyo empire the second most powerful kingdom is ijebu kingdom. Since u said oyo empire didn't exist won't that make ijebu kingdom the most powerful kingdom get u facts straight next time.

bigfrancis21:
Isi ka I ji na-eje ije??

How can igbo people say ukwuani is another igbo dialect when you can't even understand what I said in ukwuani. IT means you use your head to walk or ENA KWE ELA means u are mad.

reeblaze:
I don't have any objections to the remaining but as for where the Portuguese visited, it was Benin, infact Benin was the first city to have contact with Europeans which is the Portuguese during the 13th or 14th century

But how when Benin kingdom is landlocked the only way they could have met the Europeans is through the coast area that leads to the Atlantic ocean

goalernestman:
have you ever thought of what was the first capital city of Nigeria, first thing that comes to your mind is Lagos. no the first capital city of Nigeria was Benin city it was called the city of kings or Benin city. then it has a fence or walls around it. it was said that the fence or was rounding it are four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops. They took an estimated 150 million hours of digging to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet.

A Portuguese captain described the city in 1691:“Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed.

benin city was the capital of Nigeria then until Benin was being conquered by the European in 1970 this enable them shift Nigeria city out of the state.

but you still heard benin city when reading state and capital this is also why they still called it Benin city till date.

and it is the only city called called city when reading state and capital.


if you think otherwise you can reply below let match the facts

What is the problem man is like on every site I always have to see ur name posting the same old crap has usual.
Anyway by wall kingdom did u mean the great wall of Benin the second largest wall kingdom in africa after THE GREAT WALL OF EREDO in ijebu.
And biafra is not even what igbo people called themselves during that time and Benin was never the capital of Nigeria the map u keep posting everywhere is fake if that is ur only point u have to say.
The Portuguese would neve first arrive in calabar it would be Lagos probably the part that belongs to Benin.

bigfrancis21:
Isi adighi gi mma....twisting the spelling so that it loses its meaning.

ISI KE IJI NE JE IJE sorry if u don't understand ukwuani because I understand both. U lack common sense

olaitoro:
loool, guy you are a weed smoker maka Chukwu. The bolded really cracked me up. Ok let me teach you simple geography. River Niger divided the Southern Nigeria into East and West via Anambra and Delta, that was while Delta was originally in Western Nigeria and Anambra in Eastern Nigeria during the first republic.
Mid West region in which Delta state was part of was created from western Nigeria and not from the East.
Ukwuani has always been in delta state, thus is in the West of Niger.
You can thank me later for this lecture.

Stop displaying your ignorance as a fact anu mpama.

First of all, I would like to apologise for your know-nothing,featherbrain, simpleton mentality. That has refused to free itself from colonial and happy slave mentality. How can you call Delta, an Igbo tribe, have you no respect. You are no different from the cultural ignorance colonial rulers and foreigner. The "concept Nigeria" is fraud. You have contacted the senselessness of the foriegner. You out of your myopic nature decide with your fellow dim wit to say Delta is Igbo because you know your tribe is nothing with crude oil. Nigga must you famz. Let your tribe focus on their resources. You have disrepected Africa by compelling to the Scramble of the Continent. There goes another man, who have been whitewash. By the way that was not Igbo but Ukwuani.
Fire ur knowledge I was also taking about other east tribes u cling to other tribes forcing them to believe in ur biafra mentality.
I know u insulted me in igbo and yes I understood everything you said so I belief is time i insult u in Igbo to ENI TI GO A DIA NU IHE OFUMU AND NOW IN UKWUANI ENA KWE ELA. SO u know, there are ukwuanis in rivers state and since u are an expert on geography where is rivers.

goalernestman:
there is noting to fight here but let just state some fact. am not angry with Yoruba but just angry of them turning history, the British have account of the kingdom of Benin they find in south Nigeria boarding biafra and Dahomey then from 14 century to 18. but now any where you see benin name the Yoruba will change it to oyo or Yoruba is this right @Weedfree?

Listen man I think we got up on the wrong foot ur just trying to promote/celebrate your culture but u could do that without belittling other tribe. I admit u do got a point Yoruba people like claiming everything that is why I never argued about oyo because has I said before it may or may not existed . I don't like calling all southwest Yoruba y are Benin an that's just what u are

olaitoro:
Your ignorance is legendary, how can you say that Ukwuani is in the East. If Ukwuani is in the East then Ihiala is in West..lol..
Go and brush yourself up with knowledge of Nigeria geography before parading yourself as an authority in Ukwuani affairs.

There is always fools like u on every site who don't understand simple things u do realize I meant east of the Niger and it's territories. SO u know I do learn before I comment on a site. For example I will reply u in ukwuani ise a diye ma. if u don't know what it means don't reply u slowpoke.

gregyboy:
Am ashamed the slave solders are happy the slaves they sold can now speak thier language i laugh you in ignorance they did that for political reasons not for social reasons you should know the new president of brazil is plan is to deal with the blacks in brazil you tribes sold as slaves lets not go deep on brazil Black's why you should be ashamed of the blacks there.
When everywhite visit african museum in Europe and america they definately would hear about benin kingdom when the they hear of benin republic they will definately hear of benin to the europeans yorubas is just one of a amajour ethnic group in west africa nothing more ...rome is little today but everyone hear of it....in america benin art is used to teach west africsn history but slavery is used foe the yorubas

Huh u don't say, why are u hating is it because they don't speak ur language in Brazil that is if u even have one. I mean they celebrate Yoruba culture in Brazil, cuba and America I can't even mention places were they speak ur language really Rome comparing Benin to Rome u forgot about the Roman empire that spreads over three continents over 5,000,000 square kilometre to ur tiny insignificant Benin kingdom with nothing but it's art to brag about.

goalernestman:
same black panther they said Benin empire and never say yoruba or oyo
i saw this in black panther but i did not see any oduduwa heard

So ur back I thought I sent u packing are u really that scared of me that u went to create another site posting ur Benin rubbish. I guess u missed my knowledge that u are duly lacking. SO u know, I could careless about oyo. But I admit ur art is good but it is no ife art. Ife art is rear to find abroad so they probably settled for ur second rate art

Ukwuani is not an igbo dialect it is different from igbo language u people like claiming all east part of Nigeria are igbo when they are not people should stop saying they are igbo because they stay in the East part of Nigeria.

gregyboy:
Richest man in africa ...lol if a benin man wants to set a pace over time he would be worldly renowned space he will get that how god blessed the benin people.yea they are minorities were you underestimate them is where they become strong all what you majour tribe thinks to is populaton in everything thats why you all end up fooling yourselves and our country .yorubas would always distort history because they see it shameful for a minor tribe to superceed them in history they would rather not argue with a major tribe like the fulanis when it comes to history because they got population...they forgot thesame Minor tribe overlooked the britsh might and went into a war with them because they are a tribe of might not of population.. Be there praising yorubas if yorubas hiatory is worth praising i would praise it to the fullest regardless of tribe but yoruba history is full of emptiness blackpanther can attest to benin might....
Thank you

WOW u really got a beef with Yoruba people did a Yoruba girl break ur heart I mean really because blackpanther used ur art u act all fly like u acconplished something great when they didn't make ur language a must to learn like in Brazil ur people don't even have their own language. People keep mistaking it for Yoruba intact they even call it a dialect of Yoruba. To make matters worse you are nearly recognisable abroad black panther spoke Hausa I guess that makes Hausa better than your nearly recognisable language the film was filled
with more references from southern Africa that makes your tribe even more insignificant.

gregyboy:
You speak of atlantis in negro continent where the land you speak of is landlocked you make me speechless i bet you cant even speak pidgin you're one of those yorubas who can't even speak english but force themselves to speak blunders in form of spoken English....it is quite understandable why so many yoruba are illetrate and bigoted when the yorubas student are taught in Yoruba language in thier school ....

Go and research on Atlantis before you embarrass yourself

What's up dude I just saw ur post so nice reply man I mean with the atlantis and ife being landlocked but if u have a brain u would know I said ife arts is phenomenal and far better than Benin second rate arts by the way did I ever mention i was Yoruba. I refuse to categorize myself as a Yoruba because I am against the colonial mentality that "all southwest" should be classified as "Yoruba". We were all tribes before ethnicity. That is why I love native America, they refuse to be address as an ethnicity but a tribe. I am just tired of hearing Too, Benin empire because these other tribe in Yoruba had empire. Let's other Yoruba tribes free ourselves from mental slavery and really I'm quite fluent in English by may guess I'm more fluent than u Neanderthal for the record how many Benin people are on the list of richestmen in africa. If i forget i may or may not be Yoruba. Don't try me little child or else I will destroy u like I did ur homeboy who got his butt handed to him by me face it I got this site on lockdown.

[quote author=gregyboy post=75383327]Oyo nevered extended to this areas you speak of the europeans only felt the prrsence of the benin empire when they arrived at 14c down till 18c they never withness the imaginery oyo empire you speak of if it really have this speakable popularity you speak of. usman danfodio never reigned beyond the present northern nigeria.the benins on the other hand had all influence on the southern part of nigeria as early as 14c which the Portuguese noticed and wrote down the bight of benin was taken by dahomey as a sign of a grest empire that had indirect influence on the peoole which oyo couldnt archive[/quote

Hi Troll
You wanted master to reply Weedfree thy royal highness says Hi.
Let your master,your ancestor and alpha educate u in history.
U Benin people like telling lies like u predate ife you conquered all of south west but the Portuguese sent ADVISER to Benin and your oba told them what he wanted to belief but they are a lot of kingdoms you did'n conquer like ijebu, and ijesha land and really too empire may or may not of existed but the fact is Benin kingdom never conquered all of south west.
Ife art works predate that of ur own I mean really unless u have a art work dated 800AC and an European explorer said this may be the lost city of Atlantis an if u recall an ife man thought it people how to mode.

goalernestman:
bro oyo empre never esixted bro wake up they lied to you

You do got a point oyo empire may not existed or it may have but the fact is that can Benin empire brag about people in Benin republic, Togo, and Ghana claiming descendants of Yoruba.