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Anvaller: Now dude listen to urself! Why would any lady think she needs a miracle to have a husband? If she paid God to give her twins and now she is about to have twins, what about the other sister, didn't she also pay to have twins? At least both of them paid for a husband. If their pregnancy was a miracle well, I wouldn't be surprised if getting a husband was a miracle in the 1st place. The point is this, I have couple of achievements that I can point to year in year out without paying any ransom to God at any Shiloh or the likes. I just pray gently to God and he listens. So try to understand when ppl don't view shiloh the way u view it because we have to wonder why some millions of ppl have to pay a form of money to God before their prayers are answered. God can not be partial, there is something terribly wrong.

U are getting d entire point wrong......no one is paying for miracles....U need to understand d principle behind the action to benefit from it......except u don't believe d bible.....but if u do....u would be blind not to see it......

Sacrifice does not have to be money.....It is whatever cost u something;

1. Solomon burnt 1000 cows out of love for God and God appeared that self-same night and decked him with riches he did not even ask for.....Did Cows not cost money...? And is God an ATM by making him d richest man who ever lived in return.....Principle my friend

2. A Plauge broke out in Isreal and 72, 000 people were already slain by God who was angry at them.......david quickly reared an altar of sacrifice and God stopped d deaths immediately.....Principle.

3. Elkanah went up to shiloh every year with his sacrifice

4. Abraham was about to sacrifice Isaac until God stopped him and swore an everlasting blessing on him dat remains till this day

4.God called Cain and Abel to bring sacrifice to him and someone offered something more excellent than d other and God blessed dat one.....

5. Noah sacrificed of every clean beast and God swore d covenant of seed time and harvest.....

6. Jesus was d ultimate sacrifice dat cost God his very own son and God Harvested over 3 billion people as Christians today

And so bros......understand d principle......its as old as d human race......God will require a sacrifice to cause a dramatic turnaround for those who need one....Its not paying for blessing.....its releasing what cost u something (it may be ur very dear shoe) that God will point at and God will use it to bail u out if u obey.

Now u say have u not achieved things in ur life with out payoing for blessing......of cos......who has not......even Bill Gates. Has.......Donald trump has......me too I passed common entranc ewithout knowing God......but ......wait till some situations in life tie u down and all u have tried to do to make it work doesn't yield .........what is d scientific explanation for a 40 year old lady who no man has thought it fit to say 'marry me'......or a couple who has had no chile for 15 years and all doctors say nothing is wrong......or someone who has failed GCE 12 times and can't get admission to school even though he reads like hell.....Life is more complex than Science can profeer and there is a God in heaven.......so get the principle.....Bishop Oyedepo is not looking for money and he shouts it at every last Shiloh service.......'Nothing u give out of compulsion,orwhen cajoled works......giving must be cheerful and joyful.....and so if u don't have or if its not ur true wish......drop d form.....God or d church is not in need'.......so wise up bros........NEVER DISPISE WHAT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!

floriana: A friend donated his entire monthly salary last shiloh. A month later, he lost his bank job, while David went on to acquire his 5th private jet. Maga must always pay.

What are you trying to prove now......does one unfortunate story of ur friend disprove d efficacy of d altar of sacrifice......Oya hear my own......Last Shiloh.....I gave 4 times my monthly salary as sacrifice as was led by God and one month after.....It was confirmed I passed a particular global exam......only 5 Africans have d certificate.......just in August....someone walked up to me and offered me a job dat pays 3 times my pay then with a 1.8 mil bonus PA......will u say d God of Shiloh is not at work......Like Bishop will say.....it is not what u do that works but what u do with adequate spiritual understanding dat shows......I can never forget 2 years ago.....my brother redeemed his shiloh sacrifice on 27 Jan 2010 and d exact next day.....@ about 6 am on our way to work.....just decensing apongbon bridge in CMS......we hit a young man.......our windscreen was shattered and our white shirts soaked with blood.......but d guy did not die and no bone was broken......he was discharged d same day......dat was chance abi.....I will inundate u with practical personal proofs of d hand of God in response to Shiloh sacrifice........so calm down......don't be among those who talk with out adequate understanding......what happened to ur friend is unfortunate but God's word works by principles......just like electricity.....u must align completely........Shiloh sacrifice is not church begging for money or supporting God......Its a mystrey dat will bail anyone out when u find urself in a tight corner.....but it has to be done right.....for instance.....it does not make sense living in sin and giving sacrifice.....me too.....not all d sacrifice or tithe I have given has returned maximally.....but I won't stop cos I know dat God is faithful......when I am due...he won't deprive me.......

Everest9: is only GOD decide wen one dies

Let's test your assertion emperically.....Look for a kitchen knife and stab yourself, or jump in the middle of the express road or make ur leg wet and step on a naked wire......and let's see if God will determine when you die......Where do you people get such notions from.....If you are a christian....than you may have come across Psalm 91......the last verse: With Long life will God SATISFY you and show you his salvation......

Arrant rubbish........by now.....peoplke should know being a coach is beyond tactics but about the charisma to comand high performance from your players: imagine if this young sharp coach has the following Characters in his dressing room:

Roy Keane
Mario Ballotelli
Joey Barton
Paul Gascoigne
Gattuso
Paul Scholes
Patrick Viera
Paulo Maldini
Chiek Tiote
John Terry
Didier Drogba
Lee Cattamole

He may know how to arrange d tactics but d personal skill to comport himself in a way dat will command d players respect is another thing.

Sirmee: I wish he was arrested by lastma

Especially those LASTMA that can speak very very good english.....the ones that will match him law for law........Nonsense!

Gbawe: Indeed. All those who went to town with the "due process" charade can now see that they were led down the garden path. Once Canada, World bank et al made it crystal clear to Nigeria that there will be serious repercussions to dishonorable conduct, the "due process" ruse quickly disappeared.

Sad Nigeria is run in this adhoc manner where our leaders shamelessly embrace open 419 tactics only for treats of sanction to be the only thing that makes them revise their crude and totally unethical behavior. Where is the silly "due process" argument now? Silly bunch of disgraceful 419ners.

Help me and find Billonaiye and all those dat were supporting it oh.......Shame should make them disable their Nairaland account........Arguing nonesense!

blink182: Those people are being visited by a demon. They had better visit the synagogue church of all nations. Na there men de when fit do the deliverance.

Double commotion......D v D

Let me tell a story Kenneth Hagin told.....it may or may not help:

Once he had a member who had an accident and was at the point of death in d hospital....and so he went there and continued all night in prayer for God to save d man. Next morning the man got well and perfectlt healed at the same time.....According to d man's account.....he actually died and got to heaven......standing right in front of Jesus, he was too happy to be where he found himself......but Jesus told him NO.....he has to go back.........d man protested and asked why.....dat he doesn't want to go back.....but Jesus pulled back a large curtain and d man saw Hagin interceeding fervently for him to come back. Jesus said dat since Hagin won't let u go.......d man has to go back to earth.......and so dats when he woke up on his real body on d hospital bed.......true life story!......Read d book......I believe in Visions by Kenneth Hagin Snr.

Moral of the story......Man is a 3 in one being: He is a Spirit(Ghost),he has a Soul (Mind,Will and Emotions)) and he lives in a Body(an earth-suit).......when he dies.....his earth suit goes to d ground and decays after sometime.......but his spirit and soul return to either heaven or hell.....depending on your 'right-standing' with God.

Kenneth Hagin also told d story of his father inlaw.....when he was on his death bed, d man said he saw a tall man standing in d corner of the room and beconing on him to come home......only d man could see this divine being.......no body else could.....until he finally died

And so.....to the OP......when a person dies......d spirit is either in heaven or hell......fully conscious......but it is not possible for d spirit to be strolling around like some have described above......There is always an angel or demon to escort you home.....and so......my best guess for ur people is dat they are being harrassed by evil spirits using their mother's body as cover up....Light will always expose darkness......Always.......Solution: Go for Light (revelation Knowledge of God's word!)

By the way, why d so called ghost no dey appear to you

Iaz93: lwkmd...abi oh. Cover ur head with blanket

Abeg ohhhhhh........don't make me laugh too much dis night......fear dey catch d bros ohhhh.......Lolllll.

val_dubem: To know if ghosts truly exist, visit a grave yard @12midnight or 3am; and you will come up here to share you findings

Abeg........stop watching nolly yoruba abi yoruba magic!

[quote author=TroGunn]The brain is the centre of intelligent life and controls bodily functions. Once the brain dies, the person is gone. Nothing escapes or survives thereafter - it would be without a brain anyways. So nothing like ghosts. Stop allowing the devil fool you.[/quote

Lol..........but d devil is a ghost now?......Ghost is just greek word for Spirit......d devil and all humans are spirit beings......its just dat devil and his demons don't have physical body.......like humans......and by the way......when a person dies......his Spirit leaves d earth suit (body) and is in either of 2 places.......Heaven or Hell.....

When your right hand is giving a gift......don't let your left hand know your right hand gave the gift. And so what is all this publicity staunt for...Smart timing.....just at the time other pastors are accused of buying private jets.....d news flies out....big deal.... I heared that 90% of 1st set students @ Landmark University are under David Oyedepo foundation scholarship......Oya do d maths....900*350,000 per year for 4 years.......But has anyone heared about it....

The next time you give to the poor and ur intention is so that people will see you......they have seen you and that is your reward.

By the way.....let it be known to all.....that being poor and needy is not a ticket to heaven.....All this give to d poor ,,,give to the poor.....Jesus said made d most controversial statement.......The Poor you will always have with you!

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Did anyone notice how many of this dangerous busstop were in a particular part of Lagos state?........If you can.......avoid Oshodi-Apapa-Lagos-Badagry expressway at Night time........Ruthless environment

teeo: Oyedepo doesnt have 4 jets. The Living Faith Church worldwide has 2jets for airlifting its team of pastors around the world. Living Faith has over 300 churches outside Nigeria and pastors travel to this countries every month. Should they depend on Dana air when the church has a faster means.

The Redeemed Church of God also has a University and numerous secondary schools across the nation. You people just like saying lies about the work of God

Leave them......they are too lazy to do simple research to verify the truth.....does it even make sense to have 4 jets......its like saying I have 10 cars because I have used 10 cars since I came to Lagos......but I just own one now....

Kukah and all those who think owning private jets is embarrassing and sinful should go and buy camels....their purpose and vision in life does not require a jet.......People na wa.....even P-square dem have a jet......leased or owned.......and so Oyedepo who has built 2 universities and is planning 5 more should be lining up to buy Arik ticket with you abi....

Hypocrites also said d same when Jesus was here.........we have the poor with us.....why does this sinner waste this percious oil on your leg........

Remain poor till ur vulcanizer buys private jet.

emusmith: You sound like A WINNER...

Why do you say so.?.....wetin I talk?

Subtext: You laid down good points except for the part above. The day your so called 'spiritual father' mistakenly strays and trust me its VERY POSSIBLE, you too will stray. We are to call no else father except Jesus Christ. Let the Holy Spirit alone be your ALL in ALL, your guide, your final say. That way, even your Pastor can learn something from you. I'm not just talking o, I'm speaking from experience. This is the biggest problem of the Nigerian Mega Churches today. They ALL started very well, but somewhere on a few issues, they seemed to have missed it.

Have a nice day.

I get your point bros.......I sincerly do....but that is why they are called MEN of God......not angels of God......He is still a man with capacity to stray.....But God still uses him to accomplish his purpose despite his frailties....and so.....if he strays....we pray for him.....na God dey forgive.....we too we dey stray and God dey forgive......but if He keeps straying.....we keep praying for God to uphold and restore him....and if d straying is getting too much....we find another place as God leads......but we still keep praying for him.

Understand the point.....even as anointed as Elijah was....he physically killed 700 prophets of Baal.....but dat was God's mouth piece of those days....So Prophets or God are still men.

I was just trying to introduce d principle of spiritual fatherhood....its replete everywhere in d bible......Elijah/Elisha, Elisha/king of syria,Elijah/John d baptist, Moses/Joshua,Paul/timothy,Samuel/David,. Its just dat most young people of this generation despise spiritual blessings and focus on skill....When I say I have a spiritual father......its not sycophancy or human worship......it is God showing you whose steps to follow in order to replicate his grace on d persons life......Deep calleth unto the deep my brother.

For me, any Pastor/Prophet that places undue emphasis and any kind of pressure on members for tithe and offering......or goes as far as asking where one works ......is just 'a career business man'.....Calmly look for another place.

The truth is dat these teachings must be balanced. In 1st Corinthians 9 v 7-15.....paul explains a principle that many people try to manipulate. Truth be told God has Ordained that Apostles, Pastors,Teachers ,evangelists and preachers eat from the work they are doing....dat is d purpose of offering and tithe......so dat d church workers be fed and d work of ministry can go on......but we see people who set up churches for d sole aim of exploiting dis ordinance.

For me, d true mark of a man of God will be one who does not care if u give or not......but who trusts in God for his su pplies....Like I said somewhere else.....there are lots of fake pastors and prophets anywhere.....God did not even flash them talkless of call them........However, Fake is always proof that there is an Original.......so my advice is......calm down and look for d original......Yes they will preach prosperity...if that is what they are called to do......but there will be balance...
As for me......I found my spiritual father and av settled with him for 7 yrs and the effect is showing in my life......no amount of public outburst against him will make me change my mind.....Na God show me!

blink182: guy, let me make the picture clearer. The egusi soup will have no water any where, the bitter leaf partially washed so the soup is bitter in such a sweet manner, u de there? When you finish eating, you take a glass of water and your whole mouth becomes so sweet. Guy when u de chop this food, you go graduate from wearing shirt, by the time you chop finish na only boxers go remain. Meanwhile you de sweat like who just complete 100m race.

Haaaaaaaa........this bros wan finish me oh........Bia.....u don sell for Onitsha Main Market before......abi u go ESUT.......na only eastern pikin dey sabi dis kind of thing.....mehn....chop knucle from there abeg!

blink182: I de tell you, if them mix am with periwinkle, diced pomo, crayfish and scattered stock fish...mogbe! I'm in heaven already.

Ha bros......why u dey enter matters dat touch the spirit soul and body na.....u wan make I download my mama by night bus.....

But chill oh.....em......na Pounded yam and Egusi d guy talk oh......no be Vegetable soup(Ugu Leaf).....all those condiments na for Vegetable oh....anyway....we dey d same realm for spirit.

blink182: I have been thinking and I don't think there's any food I can't stand. I've eaten cat, snake, bush dog, camel, donkey, crocodile, duiker, spotted antelope, grass cutter, porcupine, squirrel, frog (okere). When I was small I ate snail by washing the sand off and roasting it with the shell before cracking the shell which was almost totally burnt to separate the meat from the intestine.

As long as its food I can eat it. I can't wait to visit china and the Asian tigers so I can eat that their boiled egg with a fully formed chick in it, some geckos, scorpions, centipedes, and whatever they have to throw at me at their open street market. Maybe its there I will see something I can't eat.

CONFIRMED.........The wait is Over.....We have found the Anti-Christ.....

ayolatun: Pounded yam and Egusi

You never chop the one wey my mama calm down prepare.....U go BELIEVE and rededicate ur life to the Ministry

J12: I don't eat snails or any food cooked with snails

Why na......Snail and Gizzard.....they can use it to sell me and collect change

Cyndas: okro and stew
gbegiri
dislike (not hate) amala cos of the colour
boiled fish

GBAM.......and na who invent that Gbegiri and why exactly....I can't stand d sight of Ewedu talkless of eat it....Amala.....never had it.....never will

Real Ofada Rice.......The smell is hellish.....I never thought anything would smell worse than Niverquine.........I can't even stay near people eating it.

Ayoobscom: Israel may have chewed more than they can swallow by killing Jabari

Isreal can swallow anything around them......

ogugua88: The first thing that came to mind was "The Princess and the Frog".

Or Beauty and the Beast.......that's more dignifying!

duality: bros, forget about that Ribadu report. that is not the issue being discussed. besides If i were your boss and i gave you a job to do stating the terms and you spend so much time, return with an inconclusive report and leak the report before presenting it. I'll tear the report in your face for gross incompetence.

but that is not the issue here.

So u are telling me in all sincerity dat u don't smell something fishy with Manitoba being revoked......abeg.....come of it......dis govt is insincere and Jonathan will be really ashamed of himself in his privacy......Do u know how much PHCN top brass fought nnaji while he was there.....the man refused to be moved......now, they found how to send him out and suDdenly, when d discos and gencos are ready to fly......suddenly, Manitoba did not follow due process......dis is not even shifting goal post.....its up rooting goal post.....Honestly dis night......am ashamed to be Nigerian.....Can u imagine how stupid we look to wall street and the global int'l markets

Gbawe: Sharrap liar !!! You are right where? You only deserve lashes from a 'koboko' for trying to palm off lies here you want to use to get your messiah off the hook for processes his Government fully supervised - much like how GEJ and Allison-Madueke are playing 'innocentee' over the fuel subsidy scam that happened .under them. Perhaps you think everyone is ignorant like the fool who spoke senselessly based on your lie. Look above to my last post to see I have exposed your lie. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The latest contract between Manitoba and the FG was signed last July under GEJ and supervised by the Bureau of Public enterprises (BPE). GEJ re-engaged Manitoba after Yar Adua had stalled the process. If "due process" was not followed, do not try and shift blame falsely to OBJ for the actions of GEJ's Government. The more ignoramuses like you come here to tell desperate lies in an attempt at 'damage limitation' for a corrupt President, the more GEJ is exposed for his fraudulent action - and you for your dishonesty and deceit.

But seriously Gbawe......why are Nigerians like this......GEJ approved BPE to go on and appoint Manitoba.....and then suddenly......towards d tail end......they realize due process was not followed......and so u set back d entire process ......back to square 1.......and some annoying nigerians will still be defending such rubbish openly.....

duality: GBAM!!

this seems to much for Gbawe to comprehend.

So you prefer to go back to square 1......which will take another 5 years abi.....same reason he let the best energy management brain in Nigeria to go because na Jonathan and FG holy pass....I don't buy that.....serious vested interests don't want this issue of light sorted......and Jonathan knows......he just does not have d character or political will to stand for something. Due process my foot. has he sorted d scandal with the Ribadu report.....