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ashleeeeee:
Extremely insensitive sweetie, EXTREMELY insensitive, but you're pardoned.

Funny enough I don't think it is insensitive.
I just think the question itself is hilarious. Medical basically entails your blood getting drawn, your p*ss collected, maybe x ray sef.
But the "Father let your will be" done part...oh my!..."people" are praying "Father let your will be done" and you are praying those exact words for medicals too. Due to this I hope your injection is a bit more painful for you than it should normally be
One love!

okoope:
Artmedia! Some got regret mails Yesterday u mean!!
Interesting!

He said he knows someone that got...not 'some'. Anyways from the number of people still expecting feedback it means that a tonne of people are still in limbo. If the basis of them still picking people is hinged on refused offers...that na even longer thing. Because am sure most will accept it. Possibly not more than five(am being generous with this number) will refuse.
Except am wrong on the basis of them calling more.

cattysmilez:
U dunt have to be so negative, it cld b in batches, so chillax.. Btw, i know someone dat said gt a regret mail yest, sadly it was deleted before i cld see for myself.. If some regrets mail went out as well yest, den dere z still hope

So if I am to take your comment to heart, that will mean that they are sending both success mails and regret mails in batches.
I really cannot find any logical reason as to why they would do that in batches...honestly can't. Am sure it is not something they are still trying to figure out...they would have had the list of who would be taken and who won't for a long time now.
I guess it is just their usual practice put people on a long thing and turn their hope to "hoooooope".

naastyme:
Honestly I feel the pains of those who have not been contacted yet. Just a few minutes after @artmedia posted he had got his male, I kept refreshing my inbox and I was quick to feel sad and disappointed. I thought "how could they just contact a few and treat me as if I don't exist?" after a few minutes, I saw my male. What I am trying to say is we have come a long way and our patience have really worn out. So it is very easy to feel dejected at this point. But holding back your males can only mean there is a need for you, otherwise it isn't hard to dish out "reject" males. At the end of this loooong wait, I believe we will all sing songs of praises. I can't wait to rejoice with you here when more success males trickle in.

Well, the simple question I ask myself is that if I was successful why didn't I get an email like other successful applicants? The answer is simple, it is because I was not successful. Rationalizing why one has not gotten a success mail yet is tempting, very tempting. But the fact is, if you did not get a success mail, then you were not successful.
Thanks for your empathy though@naastyme

ItsTime4me:
Kaitung what's up with those who have not gotten any mails?

Very funny stuff by NLNG, let's send out a few success mails and let's let the others stew.
They might as well send out regret mails too, and should have done it earlier. Really surprised with this their strategy.
It comes across as insensitive. I didn't get an email - obviously.
#My wait has ended.
Congrats to the successful ones. You deserve it!

kaitung:
Success mail received.

when did you receive yours?

Badema:
Guys Guys!!
If you go to a gas station and join a long queue to refuel your car, and after spending 4 hours on the queue, the manager of the gas station decided to halt sales, and says 'till further notice', upon enquiry, you found out it could resume sales in few hours or even the next day, if you will agree with me: You've got just two options

Option A: Wait in the queue for God knows when sales will resume, buy fuel and zoom off.

Option B: leave queue quietly, go check other stations, start queue afresh

No Option C (beat the manager for doing something at his discretion, mobilise other people on queue to burn down the filling station etc, at the end, you no go get the fuel in that station and u Don waste your time not joining another queue)

My candid advise! Let's kindly engage ourselves fully in whatever we are doing or will be doing, My Ogas at the top let's just avoid continuing relevance through unproven theories.

I am only but a hopeful. Yours sincerely.

I think at the end of the day people just want to keep the thread going or keep gist flowing.
Enticing as they may be speculations are just that - speculations.
I honestly think that most of the speculations that have been on-going are just "punching against the wind".
From the oil price to the Trains to the government...no one really knows the cause for the delay.
Anyone that has the faintest idea of these guys(oil companies) budget will know that money cant be the reason for the delay. Even if all the "600" of us were employed, I doubt it will make a dent in their budget. Their revenue is in billions of dollars.
NLNG is run by NNPC and several Intl oil companies...so I doubt the government can singly cause the recruitment to drag for months, much less years.
For the Trains and them changing plans and all that story, I don't really see how this can slow down the recruitment for years...all they need is an estimate number of GTs that will be required. If they plan from now till tomao it's only an estimate they will be able to come up with (and they know this).
So...let's just chill (patiently or impatiently).
All the best in the wait guys.

naastyme:
O God, Please force the once glorious NLNG that has reduced to nothing more than a name and oil-money remuneration to be considerate enough to let us know what our faiths are, amen! No matter how much I try, not knowing if my wait would end up fruitful or futile keeps affecting my performance at my current project. Not that I am desperate to make it, no. I just want to put this behind me and give my best to whatever I would be permanently (at least for the near future) doing. Not knowing if I would be committing and making others commit both financially and psychologically to a project I would possibly have to leave midway is killing my spirit and my work...

No be NLNG go tell me my fate.

weomet:
Bother no more. I know of someone that was a call center rep and got in back in 2007.

Honestly I wish I never knew this thread existed sef. I believe it's done more harm than good to me n a lot of others, though you guys might disagree.
The only two good things I can think about from this thread are 1. Just knowing u r not alone in it. 2. Light banter of people in a similar predicament. Banter that soothes a little. I could list a tonne of disadvantages...top on such list will be the constant tension of what could be and also the awareness of how many brainy people are in competition with u. I mean think of some analysis ur fellow potential GTs offer.
I know a couple of guys in this race and we went to school together. They are really brilliant. That doesn't help my "waiting".
The constant and ever changing "judgement" date doesn't help either. It just makes one nervous to even concentrate on ones job.
NLNG has messed up. Even though there were situations beyond their control. We have been treated anyhow. And that's a fact.
I am even pissed with myself becos of how much I want this job sef. I honestly wish I didn't want it so much. Shame on me. Not because of pride but I believe and sincerely think that we (at least a healthy number of us) are truly capable of greater feats than being a GT in an oil company and being so tensed about the job.
The bible says "be anxious for nothing". God forgive us for our anxiety.
To those that will enter we must believe that NLNG is not the bus stop of life, we still have to make great things and make NLNG great.
To those that won't, we still have struggle to make sure that NLNG is not the only place people want to work in.
If tomorrow is the day fine, good riddance to good rubbish. If it ain't, doubly fine I will go about making something of my life.
By the way I don't hate NLNG, but screw them mehn...they ain't God!

prelinctus:

Bother no more. I know of someone that was a call center rep and got in back in 2007.

vantage7:
By fire by force una wan carry this thread reach page 200. The magic number that some believe will coincide with the mails dropping.

Okay, here's some analysis: If resumption is slated for January, the mails have to drop in November (as has been mentioned previously on this thread) due to the 1-month notice to current employers. However, let me constrain it further. By my analysis, it shouldn't be later than mid-November which leaves two weeks for medicals (going by the two weeks given to EH guys to complete theirs, assuming it is a standard). So guys, brace for impact.

I even think it should drop by latest second Tuesday in November. This is due to the fact that no one can give their current employees letter of resignation till they have the offer letter. And for NLNG to issue out offer letters, they must received the feedback of the medicals. So if we say two week for medicals and one week for compilation of medical result and preparation of offer letters. That means they should get back to us by second Tuesday in November. Na still speculation sha

I know at least thirteen people that did this AC. I wonder if anyone here knows a higher number of persons that did the AC.

Really ehn, i don't know what to say tho i have many things on my mind. One
thing I know for sure is that i really want this job for a whole lot of
different reasons...money inclusive. Well, it is a bit sad that not all of
us will get this and some of us will be literally heartbroken...but such is
life. So whatever happens we are permitted to feel sad, mop around but we
must then move on. I always tell myself that there are many routes to the
top. NLNG might seemingly be an easy route there but it ain't the only
route there. I wish us all God's best!

Was a group leader specifically chosen by u guys?

tk4rd:
During the group exercise, I was like; "But A2 hey... (group leader was A2, and he was just making decisions anyhow).. (so, .., back to what I was saying)... But A2 hey.. Do we have to give up all the proceedings to charity. That's too much...". And all the group members got laughing, some few of the accessors smiled anyway.. Na im somebody said "omo-igbo". I guess it was A4.. I had to quickly whisper "this one no be igbo matter, but na true naa. The profit is just too much after the whole expenses."..
...
I hope derailing didn't cost our group.? I hope we were not penalized for laughing out in such a serious scenario.

NanaF:
I don't support derailing, but calling a group member 'Omo Igbo', that's just wrong on so many levels. I hope your assessors didn't hear that though

You might be surprised that what you look as derailing they look at as confidence is sharing one's idea, and what you consider as "wrong" might be looked at as having friendly/cheerful attitude which is a good thing.

There's no need convincing anyone...everyone has done what they have done. U can state ur opinion but it's not necessary to convince anyone else.

DivineU:
Tim or Phil? He was regarded as being bully, maybe because of envy or whatever. One of the staff was very sick and he refused to grant her permlssion thereby forcing her to work. Is that a good leadership style? Remember one of the core values of NLNG is CARING. Yes he needs to undergo training to improve on his leadership skills , employee management skills and so on inorder to gain the love from his team which will increase their motivation. A good leader should be loved and trusted by those his leading.

That might not be the case. But just humor by saying the questions u asked.
Thanks

NanaF:
Everybody was asked the same questions.

Guest01:
#epic

It was a test of speed, analysis, presentation and communication skill, organization, planning and attention to details. It was my best part of the AC, i reached 100% of my celebral capacity trying to beat time and the questions that followed after the presentation were also insightful. The worst part of my AC was the interview/gisting session and the most interesting was definately the fact finding exercise (the unexpected).

Does anyone know how the jottings and evidence of preparation will be assessed? And which exercise will have the highest weight in the total assessment score sheet.

Happy sunday all!!!

What sort of questions were you asked after the presentation?

I no no if the guy dey vex or him just dey proud...sha sha him be like person wey fit slap him colleague if the colleague yarn 'beans'.

NPComplete:
What u have just said makes sense in every way one looks at it. But I am curious to know how u arrived at the conclusion that the submission u quoted is tribally colored.
I read what u quoted and all it suggests, to me, is a curious person trying to know why NLNG is operating from Rivers and is involved in a plan to build a shipyard in Lagos. Since both states have access to the sea.
Ur reply is enlightening in every respect but I don't think it is appropriate to accuse of him of what u did and impugning his person. U probably have interacted with many people who have argued against the location of the project based solely on sentiments rather than logic and that has reinforced ur bias against similar arguments. I have been dealing with that sort of argument and trying to disabuse people of such notions all day here. So I understand.
I will advice u edit ur reply to him. People will come and read this thread and ur reply may incite them as well against an innocent (hopefully) question and the character of the person asking the question.
Cheers

You be character

masagoody:
having read through all the comments in the last two pages, I can't see how the comments will affect my offer letter. therefore, you guys can continue.
#IJusDeyObserve.

forkadict:
Please permit me to drop my two cents on this issue. But before i proceed any further, I would like to acknowledge both the proponents and opponents of the 'back door recruits' in companies.

For anyone worth his onions who passed thru the academic rigour of a Naija university and who honestly graduated with a second class honors is capable of working in any company in Nigeria. To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing 'rocket Scientific' so to speak about industries in Nigeria. The so called recruitment process as it were came into being when the supply of graduates far outweighed the available jobs. Employers realised this and are exploting the situation to the maximum. I recall my dad telling me that when he graduated in the 1960s, he had 3 jobs waiting for him upon graduation. The interviews if he could call them that were just conducted 'in order to fulfill all righteousness.'

Now to back up my point, the minimum grade for prospective GTs interested in working at SPDC is second class lower division. While the requirement for a company like Mobil for the same graduate trainee position is second class upper division. Driiling Engineers in both companies functionally do the same thing on the field. Now If you take a graduate trainee drilling engineer from SPDC who graduated with a second class lower division that went thru SPDC's recruitment process and was succesful, and you put him on the job as a drilling engineer in Mobil. Do you think he will fail on the job? Knowing fully well that the functions of a drilling engineer in both companies can to a very large extent be considered same? And this SPDC graduate trainee drilling engineer would not have even been shortlisted for the aptitude test by Mobil. But if the same guy happened to be well connected and he got the Mobil job thru influence, can he necessarily be considered a wrong hand?

Further, the recruitment process for both companies cited above are different. Parrticularly, the way their interview stages are structured. Meanwhile in both companies exist reservoir engineers, drilling engineers, production engineers who functionally speaking, their roles in both companies will be very similar. They will essentially be doing similar activities on the jobs in both companies. However, the routes to clinch the jobs in both companies are different. So which of the companies recruitment process is right and which is wrong

Again, can anyone attest with 100% certainty that candidate A that got into a company thru the 'front door' will be better on the job than candidate B that went through the 'back door'

Like a poster earlier said, 'Life isn't strictly black or white. There is a wide range of colours in its spectrum.' And that I got in thru the 'back door' does not necessarily mean that you who got in thru the front door will out perform me on the job.

P.S: Please pardon the structure of this post and the typos that may be contained therein. It was done in a rush.

it is starting to look like am taking this thing personal so this might be my last comment on this issue...
to the first bolded statement - each company determines their own 'front door' based on their recruitment policies. So the fact that different companies have different recruiting policies does not mean that one company is a 'backdoor' and the other a 'frontdoor'.
For the second bolded statement - my issue is not about performance on entry. My issue is to ensure that the nigerian graduates have a level playing field to land jobs applied for, and that any effort(outside of company recruitment policy) that results in a few having an advantage over the others in landing jobs that they could all equally perform adequately..is...wrong.

scarletdp:
That is the way he has decided to go through life and you want to crucify him. T[b]he bolded in your post cannot be justified from where you stand until you find yourself in a position where a relative knows Babs and could influence the recruitment in your favor and then you say NO, i want to go through the legit process.[/b]

During the shl stage, people came here after their exams and gave hints, if you were here then i'm sure you ain't gonna close your browser at the sight of that hint, however when it was time for AC, peeps realised how close their dreams were and decided to go all, intergrity, intergrity, intergrity. Where was right or wrong then?

Never judge a man coz he sins in a different way compared to you, because given the chance, there is a great posibility you'll turn a deaf ear to "back door" is wrong or right. And evil will always thrive in the World until the second coming of our Lord, that is why we believe we are in it but not of it.

How did I ever try to crucify him? by "Now I can see why evil thrives in this part of the world" which I made earlier, I mean that evil(wrong doing) thrives when no one does anything against it.
Now this is criticism - I can imagine NPComplete to be like the wealthy man who lives in a street that has loads of poor people and all he does his ride in his jeep across the terrible road, then switches his generator when he gets into his high-fenced house and shuts his very big gate. He also goes to the office and gives a relative of his one of the 45 slot(out of the 50) that he mentioned earlier...what his is rationale? - he has to "gracefully sidestep murky waters on the way and focus only on the things within his control". He never moves a hand and refuses to exert any of his influence to purge "murky waters", he just "gracefully sidesteps" them.

You don't know me, you don't know what I would or would not do if I knew babs, neither do u know if I looked at the "hints" for the SHL. Besides they are called 'hints' for a reason and not 'expo'. Also, in ur second paragraph u seem judgemental. Don't tell me you have picked up my supposed trait of 'judging' others. In your third paragraph you are clearly judgemental.
Since you mentioned the Lord...I am actually wondering if he took the approach of "sidestepping" murky waters gracefully when he was here on earth or if he refused to comment on right and wrong because evil will still be here when He came back.

lastly, 'commenting' about an issue is not the same 'judging' people that have the issue. the former focuses on the issue and the later focuses on the people that have the issue.

I am fairly certain that we can be certain about certain things in life...."In the end it is all about how we choose to see and live life".

No hard feelings...

NPComplete:
Scarlet, I hail u.
Great point Dway4ward.

It all comes down to focusing on what we have control over. Even if they will be taking 50 people and 45 of the 50 slots is reserved for the "connected". Every "unconnected" candidate's prayer should be to find himself taking one of the remaining 5 slots and hope his prayer is answered. Talking about it on nairaland won't translate to a sudden change in the system of the recruitment.
It is not like one of the big men who already have reserved slots for one of his candidates will come and read this thread, read all the protests and the preaching against backdoor recruitment, and go "oh I just found Jesus. I will never ever bring in any candidate through the back door again".
That said, we have been assured many times that this recruitment relies heavily on meritocracy. So there's really nothing to worry about. This is just me having fun and ensuring this thread remains lively as our brethren in PH undergo their AC.
Cheers guys.

Now I can see why evil thrives in this part of the world...let's just focus on the slots that we have and let evil thrive.That is the underlying opinion in your comment. Ignoring a problem never makes it go away. @NPComplete concerning your earlier comment of "I won't assign myself a judge of what is right and wrong in the overall affairs of men" and "I will follow laid down rules to the letter"...a robot/soldier should talk like that...I am fairly certain you are neither.

NPComplete:
The only main reason we are facing these obstacles u have alluded to is that there aren't enough jobs to begin with.
In a country were jobs are being created on a massive scale over the years to match the flourishing population, u hardly hear of complains like these. That isnt a pointer to the inexistence of such methods.
There will always be backdoor recruitment as long as there are humans and there are recruitments. If the gospel according to John is to be believed, after Jesus "recruited" Andrew, the first thing Andrew did was to help in "recruiting" his brother Simon Peter.
The only thing we should keep praying for is that many great indigenous companies not unlike NLNG spring up in Nigeria thus making subsequent generations less inclined to pontificate about backdoor recruitments.
Preclusion of backdoor recruitment is not left to the integrity of the employees alone. Even people who came in sweaty and disheveled through the front door may still feel obliged to let in one or two relatives easily through the back door. The only way backdoor recruitments can be prevented is for there to be a series of checks and rigorous vetting done at different points in the recruitment process to ensure only those who meet the prearranged criteria make it through.
Even after that, there will still be that lucky guy who was born to circumvent rules and thwart procedures. You have probably heard some of them giving almost incredible testimonies in your Sunday service.

So what you are saying is that backdoors are alright as long as:
- the 'gospel of John' exists
- there are enough jobs to go about
- they also use such in the developed world
- there are people born to circumvent rules and thwart procedures.

I will just ask one question in order to keep this issue short. If your friend fails to get a job and learns that it was because his/her slot was taken by another person who used a 'backdoor'. Would you tell your friend some/all of the four points i noted and conclude that 'these things happen' or would you empathise with your because you believe the he/she has been wronged?

coolio2014:
Whats's the full meaning of this IM that has been much used in this forum recently?


Also just saying most of these peeps that get in through "back door" are well schooled. as in foreign bachelors and masters degrees you'll be schocked. They have access to the "back door" because most times their parents are so wealthy and connected that they cannot be bothered about writing aptitude tests and the likes. Where do you think Children of commissioners, ambassadors,ministers, governors, and the likes work? Where they pay #250,000 per month? .

It's really sad that meritocracy "in recruitment" is fast becoming unfashionable. But thing is those rich kids that get i through the "back door" are so well schooled that they will likely perform as well as those that get in on merit. lol.

okay, i guess i will just comment after much hesitation...
The whole idea of 'front door' is to ensure that everyone has a level playing field to compete on. Regardless of connection, or wealthy or education it is "right" that everyone stands a equal chance of getting in, the use of 'back doors' is definitely wrong. I read posts were people(e.g scarletdp) said "CHM" (i think) should be real as most people would use d "back door" if they could...I do not doubt that most will use such a 'back door' if it was within their reach but it still does not make it right.
It is important that we disabuse our minds from thinking that the number of people doing that a particular thing makes it right, and that we should not refrain from some acts because everyone does not .
most of the obstacles we experience as youths in this country are due to the appointment of persons into positions all because they 'know someone/have the right connection'. As we are soon to be the 'leaders of tomorrow' - in the near future, we must move beyond even refusing 'back doors' to refusing to open 'back doors' for others. Only then can we have a morally clear conscience and sustainable progress as a society.

CHM11:
Lol bro, my first job after NYSC was a referral from my fiance's dad. Even with that High profile recommendation, I still wrote 3 tests and attended two interviews....before I got the offer.
I thought he pulled all strings until I was in the company and had first hand experience as to how things were done . The best a referral can do there is get you a spot for the first stage test. If you fail, it ends there.

Yes I will give him my CV but I would expect to be put through the recruitment process too. Lol

I may be excellent in the job specs which will help me grow steadily on the job. A time will then come when I am probably a member of the management team, and I decide to compromise on quality to cut cost or I can decide to be involved in things that are against company policy simply because my moral compass points south.


Men....when ph people and those wey miss AC go finish jare make person start expect feedback joooor...

Did anyone hear directly that there will an extra week for those that missed their AC or is it just an assumption? I remember someone said there will be an extra week for those who missed their AC.
Also, has anyone who had their AC in lagos been reimbursed?

DivineU:
There is no how they will use only AC performance to make the final decision. Other factors will include ; federal character, gender, previous achievement, more related skills to the field you applied, number of required slots per field(Technical should be highest) and some other factors. The ugly factor is long leg because I don't think there has ever been any recruitment in Nigeria that is 100 percent transparent and on merit but I pray/believe NLNG will make a difference.

Well based on all that I saw during the recruitment process I believe it is largely unbiased. There were several assessors and from what I have heard this AC is on par in terms of transparency and rigor with that conducted by other international companies. Will there be 'long leg'...maybe there will be or maybe not. In as much as it seems that they might use some of the 'other factors' you mentioned I still believe that ALL of those that perform well will be taken.

prelinctus:
The bright minds at the AC though!

Anyone that has made it thus far can comfortably hold his or her head high anywhere! my group discussion members where so on point! I particularly liked the fact that we were able to reach a consensus on all the topics we touched grin

Oga, there's no group that wouldn't reach a consensus on all topics touched. Everyone knows it's not wise to keep arguing with group members. So what you said is not necessarily an achievement as everyone did same.

That's the issue with rationalising things that happened, you may think that you have done well by your own standard and reasoning but it seems there is always an angle to criticize any strong point and strengthen every weak point.
It's only when we know what they are looking for that we can then estimate how well we performed...seeing that we will never know what they are looking for I suggest we just let it be.
I'm not really fazed by the whole scholarship thingy whether na mobil or shell or imperial or UCL...all na story...who will get in will get in.

I sabi you for real life oh....********. Those are how many letters your first name contains.

masagoody:
^^
propaganda can do the trick.
so please people, come and tell us what your "SAUCE" told you about the recruitment.
the only guy with a kuwenalike trait don leave us waka commot..
his name is savant I think.
ask him, bro, watin be time abeg, and you go see a full paragraph as answer.
I hail una writeability sha.

GetPosted:
Which group? Upper floor?

Nope. Lower.

brightsparks:
I want to know if the AC in abuja and lagos where the same, since everybody is on a lowkey. Why is everyone mute about this AC sef? I go spill my beans ohh...

Be feeling smart there...Go and do ur AC jarey...PH boy!

airsaylongcon:
Lagos ended July 10. The one week break starts July 13. PH starts July 20 for two weeks. There's allegedly an extra week for more up for all those who missed their AC

Well that means we should receive results by end of september latest...good.