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MaxInDHouse: Only Jehovah's Witnesses knows this but if you think that's a lie then mention the name of your church because i can only speak for my own church!

MaxInDHouse: True Christians don't complain about the world's government because our own government is not of this world! John 18:36

MaxInDHouse: He is one of the morning stars: angels!

AntiChristian:
I don't want to know. If God didn't create grace and mercy before Jesus then that's also discriminatory! Why rule Israel with iron hand and then when your son comes around you brandish grace and mercy? What ideology is that? Can't you see all the killings in the Old testament? But when Jesus came God stopped killing people! If that were to be done by any human we'll judge such to be unfair!

Come off all these rhetorics! He didn't come to abolish the law but he refused to apply the law on people? He was without sin. Didn't the Bible say honor your mother and your father. How many people in the Bible called their mother "O woman" like Jesus did? And Jesus already said by himself he can do nothing! He can't even save himself not to talk of anyone!

He can't deal with himself. The authority he got was granted by someone up above! And I will be alive because I'm not among Jesus's flock. His flock were Israelites of his days! I think it is your argument that is baseless and meaningless!

AntiChristian:
Repeating the same thing many times does not make it the truth!

I agree that's what you've been on and it'll be difficult to see reasons!

You just proved Jesus lied sha in Matthew 5:12! He came to abolish the law with Grace and mercy theory! But he said otherwise!
Thanks for your time!

AntiChristian:
You still failed to explain how Matthew 5:17 doesn't contradict your John 1:17!

Did Jesus lied he did not come to abolish the law since you claim he came to abolish it?

Even the Holy Spirit is helpless in this.

Premise 1:
The Purpose of Jesus' Parables
…He replied, “The mystery of the kingdom of God has been given to you (i.e. the disciples), but to those on the outside everything is expressed in parables, so that, ‘ they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven.[/b]Mark 4:11-12.

[b]Premise 2:
Everyone the Father gives me will come to me. John 6:37.

Premise 1 simply says Jesus spoke in parables so that some will be ever seeing but not perceiving and ever hearing but not understanding so that they won't repent!

Premise 2 says Jesus's father has already given him some flocks that he will save! So whoever is not among the father's flock given to him is not among!

Your "Holy Spirit" explained it wrongly!

AntiChristian:
Same Jesus said he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfil them Matthew 5:17. How do you fulfil a law without observing it? Your claim are that Jesus abolished the law of Moses but it is clear that when Jesus was asked which was the greatest commandment he mentioned Loving God.... and the neighbour as yourself. All these are part of the laws of Moses.

Was Jesus really meant to call the sinners?

The Purpose of Jesus' Parables
…He replied, “The mystery of the kingdom of God has been given to you (i.e. the disciples), but to those on the outside everything is expressed in parables, so that, ‘ they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven. Mark 4:11-12.

Try explain the words in red!

AntiChristian:
Where is the explanation in all these?

How does this explain physical and Spiritual death please?

AntiChristian:
When Jesus was asked about the adulteress why didn't he judge by the established set of rules in the Torah?

MaxInDHouse:
Why do true Christians stay away from politics?

MaxInDHouse:
When discussing about God most people have concluded that He a Mystery but is that the truth?

Jesus told his disciples to preach and teach about God's Kingdom this may seem to be meaningless but let's reason intellectually.
Imagine you are sent to campaign for a presidential candidate before an election then someone said:
"You don't have to mention the character of the so called candidate all you need to do is just campaign for him."
How can you convince prospective voters that your preferred candidate merits their support?

MaxInDHouse:
So after a careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditation we can say the holy spirit could be defined as God's active force which He uses in many ways to accomplish His purposes.

AntiChristian:
Na you dey interpret as you like. Jesus suppose explain the types of death in the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible talks about two different covenants:

[1] The first covenant is the one God had with the nation of Israel, Moses is the mediator of that covenant and it was to lead this nation to the Christ so until the arrival of the Christ that covenant remains valid. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

[2] The second covenant is the one God had with the followers of Christ this is the last and most important covenant as it was established to lead all adherents to everlasting life. John 3:16

Jesus made it clear to his disciples that if they want to live forever in Paradise they must return to the arrangement God made in the beginning which is One Adam One Eve! Matthew 19:4

So all those who lived before Christ came to establish the second covenant were declared righteous for living by the first covenant but from the moment John the baptist started preparing for the arrival of Christ things changed {Matthew 11:12} and righteousness can only be achieved by following the teachings of Christ which leads to everlasting life.

That's why first century disciples of Christ always insist on one wife before ordaining any pagan as overseer in the congregation of Christ {1Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:6} Jewish Christians already know they mustn't marry more than one wife after Malachi has warned them against polygamy {Malachi 2:14} and we should not forget that Malachi was sent to tell them how they should prepare for the coming of the Christ {Malachi 3:1} this is the one who will show them the highway to holiness {Isaiah 35:8} that's why Jesus said he is the Way! John 14:6

So polygamy was permitted before Christ but by the time Jesus walked the earth repentant Jews no longer practice polygamy that's why you can't hear of any disciple of Christ or first century Jews having more than one wife because they believed Malachi's message as a preparation for the way of holiness! Malachi 4:5

God bless you and may you have peace!

Dtruthspeaker:
Stop talking rubbish.

Moses was in the presence of God, so common sense would have told you that if Moses's wife was tired of walking with him, he would have reported the matter to God and that God discussed the problem with him.

So, in the end that we see zipporah walk away from her marriage that should tell you that Moses got his divorce sanctioned directly by God Himself. And his remarriage also.

Compare with Abraham who took wives even after Sarah's death and we see that God never spoke to him again upto the point that Abraham noticed and then drove everyone of them away.

So don't bring your paganism and heatheness into Christianity

https://www.nairaland.com/8032594/deuteronomy-17-17-shows-god

https://www.nairaland.com/8040571/westerhof-finally-confesses-adultery-polygamy

Kobojunkie:
What you said makes no sense given what is contained in the Gospel.

2. This other statement also makes no sense.

MaxInDHouse:
God's organized people, light of the world!

MaxInDHouse:
I wonder why you people failed to make zealous preachers and industrious teachers of the word of your God like the JWs.
With all your arguments your folks remain unserious with the assignment Jesus gave his disciples only JWs are up and doing throughout the earth. Matthew 7:16-18

Janosky:
JW's stick to Jesus Christ model of worship @ John 3:16, @Matthew 4:10 @ John 4:24 you & your mentors labeled "Arianism. "

@Matthew 4:10 @ John 4:24,Did Jesus teach you Westerhoffe to worship 3 spirits?

Oga you are deceiving yourself.
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