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Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 5:07pm On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
See mumu!

If we tell you that you know nothing about the Christ you will start blabbing up and down.

Jesus commanded us never to pray when men are trying to observe us do so {Matthew 6:5-6} he never prayed in the presence of his disciples that's why they begged him to teach them how to pray {Luke 11:1} so the first time he prayed with them apostle John was so exited that he later penned down all the words in Jesus' prayers {John chapter 17} and noteworthy is when he said:

For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.John 17:8-9

So Jesus won't pray for anyone or with anyone unless the person has fully agreed to live by Jesus' teachings and that's in accordance with what prophets of ancient times penned down regarding prayer! Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14; 14:11

So Mr Westerhoffe real disciples of Christ can't pray to entertain you it's against the teachings of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus! smiley
I don't know if to laugh at this comment or not.
In Matthew 6:5-6, JESUS CHRIST gave a directive for prayers. Yes.
The John 17 you quoted, was JESUS CHRIST not praying there?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 4:57pm On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Your friend (oteneaaron( is one of them can't you see he's silent on that note?
Well he is silent because he knew you erred and Ex-jws won't correct you even though you are saying what is really absurd as long as it's against the organization that DISFELLOWSHIPED them! Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11 wink
JW is a cult.
You've been made proselyte, yes… but you should open your eyes at least.
Christianity EtcRe: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 4:56pm On Jun 11, 2024
LordReed:
So basically a subjective exercise that you have no way of showing another person how to tell the differrence.
It is the way of the Spirit…
It is a gift of GOD.
Not everyone can understand except those to whom it's given.

Can you teach one to interpret dreams?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 4:53pm On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
Just look at Paul and see how hard and dangerous it can be when one is on that indoctrination path grin grin grin grin

It will be as if they have found that have found the best that cannot be replaced until Jesus jam am story changegrin grin grin
That's just it!
Indoctrination is dangerous when done on the wrong side.
Just as the LORD said:

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.”
— Matthew 23:15 (KJV)
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 4:50pm On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
You don't know he is using it to denigrate the way other Christian denominations pray. These ones that their conscience have been regimented not to say Amen to prayers of those of other religious denominations except their own grin grin grin
And they consider themselves the only ones doing the will of GOD…
Interesting.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 4:49pm On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
Looool! Which confirms the fact that they will never pray together or just stand and observe what others do while praying. Saying Amen to your prayers or prayers of any other person not a Jehovah's Witness is as good as outlawed and regimented by their GODS of men housed in USA. To them, it is like saying Amen to the prayers of a Devil.

Evidence dey if you need am grin grin grin
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Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 4:48pm On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
Looool!

So if the Son sets you free, you are truly free

You were bought with a price; stop becoming slaves of men

I remember the same MaxInDHouse saying that those of us that decided to leave that religious organization just want freedom that we want to just do whatever we like grin grin grin grin.

I laugh tire simply because no one is forcing him to stop worshiping the GODS of men housed in USA. grin grin grin. He can choose to lie on the floor and let them use his body as doormat. grin grin
I hope his eyes open soon…
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 12:08pm On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ask Ex-jws on the forum they will enlighten you Mr churchian! wink
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I should ask Ex-JWs… do they post their banners here?
And also, I congratulate the Ex-JWs on their marvelous exit from that cult.
How they did it, I don't know, but GOD did this.
It can only be GOD.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m):
MaxInDHouse:
Now you can see that you know nothing about Jehovah's Witnesses if you're one of those that say we don't pray.
So it means you've been deceived thoroughly while also deceiving yourself! 2Timothy 3:13 wink
If you think you know more about JW than I do, how do you not know that JW is part of Freemasonry and that Freemasonry is Illuminati?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 12:04pm On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Most people only listen to rumors about God's people (JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES) instead of them to get closer and know what we believe they just sum up whatever they heard from others and carry it on their heads.
Below is what is found in the book we are studying with our Bible students or new converts.

Chapter 9 in our book: Enjoy Life Forever!

Draw Close to God Through Prayer

Do you ever feel that you need guidance in life? Do you have important questions that you want answered? Do you need comfort or reassurance? Would you like to feel closer to Jehovah? Prayer can help you fill all of those needs. But what is the right way to pray? Does God listen to all prayers? What can you do to make sure that he will hear your prayers? Let us see.

1. To whom should we pray, and what can we pray about?

Jesus taught that we should pray only to our heavenly Father. Jesus himself prayed to Jehovah. He said: “You must pray, then, this way: ‘Our Father in the heavens . . .’” (Matthew 6:9) When we pray to Jehovah, we strengthen our friendship with him.We can pray about practically any matter. Of course, for God to answer our prayers, they must be in harmony with his will. “No matter what we ask according to [God’s] will, he hears us.” (1 John 5:14) Jesus gave examples of appropriate things to pray for. (Read Matthew 6:9-13.) In addition to praying about our personal concerns, we must not forget to thank God for what he has done for us and ask him to help others.

2. How should we pray?

The Bible encourages us to “pour out [our] hearts before [God].” (Psalm 62:cool So our prayers should be sincere and heartfelt. We can pray aloud or silently and in any respectful body position. We can pray at any time and in any location.

3. How does God answer our prayers?

He does so in a variety of ways. Jehovah has provided his Word, the Bible, where we often find answers to our questions. Reading God’s Word can “[make] the inexperienced one wise.” (Psalm 19:7; read James 1:5.) He can give us peace of mind when we face challenges. And he can move his worshippers to help us when we really need it.

Mr Westerhoffe is it clear to you now that JWs use to pray? cheesy
But do you pray?
I have neighbours and former schoolmates who are JWs, and they never ever pray.
Even to just close their eyes, it's mortal combat.

Writing it down is not same as practicing it.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 12:01pm On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
based on his posts here. He is within that age bracket. We know lies and manipulations is not far from his lips.
Well, our LORD JESUS CHRIST said,

Matthew 11 (KJV)
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²⁵ At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
²⁶ Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 11:59am On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
He cannot see or purposely shut it out to follow a concept that his brains is yet to comprehend yet.
But… I wonder how people are like this at times.
Someone once said it is like you pulling a heavy ladened trailer when you're trying to make someone indoctrinated come out of false doctrines.
Christianity EtcRe: What This Woman's Husband Saw After Dying by Westerhoffe(m): 11:57am On Jun 11, 2024
LordReed:
So every dream is a message from the god?
If you are a true follower of JESUS CHRIST, He'll give you a discerning Spirit to know which dream is from Him and which is not.
Likewise, if you are deep in the Spirit, whenever you have a dream, you will know where it is from.

Moreso, the content of your dream also carries a message.
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Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:55am On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Evidence you know nothing about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
So can you now shut up? smiley
JWs DON'T PRAY!
Is it today?

Why should I shut up?
Debunk it.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:53am On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If you can't mention the name of your church and you can't prove how to identify the only true Christian group then you're useless to me! wink
Useless to you, should I be profitable to you or to the Kingdom of GOD?
You're beginning to sound like a Pharisee...you know JESUS CHRIST said that about them…

Matthew 15 (KJV)
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⁵ But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;


⁷ Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
⁸ This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
⁹ But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


The earlier you realize you're teaching the doctrines of Charles Taze Russells and not of JESUS CHRIST, the better.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m):
MaxInDHouse:
If your church is not doing any VISIBLE WORKS that's noticable globally then your church is DEAD from what the Bible told me. James 2:18-26
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses and my church is globally known for our zealous preaching and industrious teaching in all our neighborhood! Matthew 5:14-16
That's what i want to hear otherwise keep your stupid stories to yourself! smiley
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Which of the JW and the Illuminati cults is currently more influential?
You go to the neighborhood to spread heresy and mislead people.
Who do you think you're deceiving?
Even Satan says he goes to and fro up and down the world!

“And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.”
— Job 1:7 (KJV)


What do you think he goes around to do?
When you JWs adapt and adopt the real and sound doctrine of the Bible, I'll come here and delete my comments.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 7:42am On Jun 11, 2024
StillDtruth:
Sorry, off poin!.

The topic here is polygamy, adultery, unfaithfulness and sin of a married person and not about the children of adulterers.

And its very funny of you to think i am jw when you ought to see that i normally attack madmaxindhouse whenever he says something wrong.
I don't follow you, neither do I keep a tab or track on you to know if you're engaging MaxInDHouse: but we can't remove their children from it.

If GOD sees the way you see, would GOD have ever recognized Solomon, and made a covenant with him?

So, don't try to make yourself sound intellectual here.
David indeed committed adultery with Bathsheba, and killed her husband because he refused to go to sleep with her to cover up his tracks of being the father of the child coming.
But after all the fracas, David took her and she became his wife. Then GOD recognized this same Solomon, whom you call a child of adultery, GOD gave him the kingdom and gave him peace all through his kingdom, and made a covenant with this same Solomon.

Come on!

Be reasonable.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:35am On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
That madness and insanities peddling brains will not step foot into such place in his lies and manipulations filled brains already classed as Satan's organisation and Satan's agents worship in there grin grin grin
How I wish he can just for once see what's going on!
Satan is really tactical!!!
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:34am On Jun 11, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Nítorí rògbòdìyàn lórí ẹ̀sìn tó ń ṣe ohun tí Krístì Jésù kọ́ àwọn ọ̀mọ̀ ẹ̀yìn bàbá ẹ gba ọpẹ́ wa! cheesy
But you JWs don't pray… so which 'Baba' are you asking to receive your thanks?
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:33am On Jun 11, 2024
achorladey:
On a public forum. Once I am not making comments that dance to the the of his madness and insanities peddling brains it means I should keep shut grin grin grin

That is the thought process of the +/- 55 years old man whose brains are filled with lies, manipulations boasting and bragging grin grin grin
You say he's 55±? shocked
Goodness gracious!
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 8:29pm On Jun 10, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If you can't mention the name of your church and you can't prove how to identify the only true Christian group then you're useless to me! wink
I have said it before and I won't repeat myself that, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE I WORSHIP, I'LL SEND YOU ADDRESS, FOR YOU TO GO CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF.
WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED BY ANY PASTORS OR PREACHERS BASED ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THE BIBLE.


You should see the difference between you and I and our level of understanding the Bible.
That should tell you something.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And Polygamy by Westerhoffe(op): 8:24pm On Jun 10, 2024
StillDtruth:
See departure from post! You were talking about when the co adulterer becomes his wife, "it is no longer adultery" and now you cannot answer, you don run go another matter. grin Guy, you do have any valid thing to say. grin
Don't ever use the term, "run…" when replying to me.
Run from who?
You?
Run from what?
You?

Have you understanding about king Solomon? How GOD made a covenant with him despite being the son of 'Bathsheba and David'?

Do you think GOD owes your feign an explanation for making a covenant with him?

I said you JWs have been blindfolded, misled, and programmed from knowing the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Fayaball, Veecruz, And Stilldtruth Finally Accepted The Truth Of The Bible by Westerhoffe(op): 8:19pm On Jun 10, 2024
StillDtruth:
See proof of blind deluded madness! 👆 😆😆inspite of the fact that i have just told Abu-twins today, what i have been saying since which when i did not know that this madman 👆 was a madman and the madman, could not answer, rather, he even confirmed it.😅😅😅😆😆

Obviously, the madman 👆 cannot recover from the madness i brought on him when he made his confession and is now desperately looking for some sanity!😅😅😅😅😆😆
Just remembered this thread today.
Who is Abutwins? undecided
And what mad man are you?
RomanceRe: Black American Woman Abandoned In Lagos by Westerhoffe(m): 8:16pm On Jun 10, 2024
TheTravelingOne:
I gave up everything I own and moved here from the states to marry my Nigerian man and build a new life with him. We were long distance for 2 years and I’ve now lived here 2.5 years. We’ve been on/off/on/off most of the time I’ve lived here.
Now finally, we had a come to Jesus with each other and decided to marry, relocate to South Africa and apply for him to live in the US. He left going to SA, saying he’s coming back in 3 weeks. 3 weeks has now turned to 3 months. & now, yesterday he told me he’s not coming back. He said he’s not marrying me and I should marry his eldest brother if I want to marry.
So now I sit here in SHOCK….
I honestly don’t know what to do. His family is also shocked.
While he’s there, a few weeks ago, I caught him with a girl on IG, which he denies.
We’ve had our ups and downs but I honestly never thought he would outright abandon me in Nigeria while he goes to another country. What kind of person does thishuh
I’m still trying to pick myself up off the floor.

& before you say scam. I felt like I knew him since being together for 4 years, I believe he truly loved me but something happened since he went to SA. Maybe the girl I found him with or maybe he just decided he doesn’t want me after all. And that’s fine but this isn’t the way you leave someone, abandoning them in Nigeria.
Luckily for me, his family is supportive and helpful.
Otherwise I’d be 100% lost.
I’m just venting because honestly I’m in shock & hurting.
That's very bad of him.
Those are the kind of monsters that paint other people bad.
Try picking up yourself and move on.
You'd get over him.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 8:10pm On Jun 10, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So keep shut! cheesy
Why should I, when you're praising a cult in my readings and telling me they're the true followers of what JESUS CHRIST taught? undecided

Well, you sure do know you can't shut me up…
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:52pm On Jun 10, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
All these any churchian will claim too do present the WORKS of your faith through the group that's practicing what you believe! James 2:18-26

That's what i have presented to show i know the organization of God's people not just portraying myself when nobody on the forum can see me! cheesy
I have nothing to prove to you.
The organization you claim to know, we outside your organization know it is a cult, but you within would never know because that's what you've been programmed to see and believe

Do you think I'll be here flaunting my works before you?
What nonsense is that?
I don't praise myself… because, I know it's against the teachings of the Bible...even the LORD JESUS CHRIST hates it, that's why He replied the young rich man so.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:45pm On Jun 10, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the only church practicing what Jesus taught and i gave you reason.

So look through the lense Jesus gave us not just your own self-righteousness:
Not applicable when the truth is debunked.
You think you practice all that, yet you keep despising the truth of the Word of GOD.
Have you not read what our LORD JESUS CHRIST told the Pharisees and the young rich man?


Matthew 19 (KJV)
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¹⁷ And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
¹⁸ He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
¹⁹ Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
²⁰ The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
²¹ Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
²² But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
²³ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
²⁴ And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


And:

Matthew 23 (KJV)
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²⁵ Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
²⁶ Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
²⁷ Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
²⁸ Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.


Just as I said earlier, appearing to be religious gives you nothing; when ee humans know your religion is a cult, how much more do you think GOD sees and knows?

Come out of JW and see the real light.
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uzydealszz:
Sorry N9.5m
Nice for the price.
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Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 10:22am On Jun 10, 2024
achorladey:
Just like the screenshots below where their religious leaders say the colour of nairaland logo is black they must nod in the affirmative that the colour is black even when they know that their religious leaders have never been to this platform to know the colour of the logo is green grin grin grin grin grin
Imagine!

When I told him they were being programmed, it sounded offensive to him, but that's the truth. Religion programmes people to follow what they lay down without questioning it.
Because once you begin to question it, you'd expose their errors and manipulations.

I'm saving these.
Adding it to my archives.
Christianity EtcRe: JW 031 The Broad Way Or The Narrow Where Are You? by Westerhoffe(m): 10:14am On Jun 10, 2024
achorladey:
Definitely grin grin grin
I am not fighting him, I know that's what he's thinking… but I just don't fancy not responding to false doctrines meant to mislead anyone.

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