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SIRTee15:
so u mean both Jesus and his Father will sit on one throne?
are u saying the 2 of them will share one throne

The face of God is his glory- learn about anthropomorphism.

SIRTee15:
We won't see the glory of the Father in heaven because HE is invisible who dwells in an unapproachable light.

Instead, We will see the Father through the Son. That's why Jesus said 'If you have seen me, you have seen the Father"

as per the verse u quoted Rev 22.3-5. it mentioned the throne of God and the lamb, not thrones of God and the lamb. ONE THRONE NOT TWO THRONES.
NOW TELL ME TELL WHO IS SEATED ON THAT THRONE

Procashtips:
Are you done?

Oya go and pay your tithe and first fruit sharp sharp. The Cbex god is waiting to use it to build a mansion for you and also double the money.

Janosky:
JW's stick to Jesus model of worship:
John 3:16, Matthew 4:10 & John 4:24.
Your Trinitarian mentors label it "Arianism."

Oga, continue to worship your 3 deities.

tunjijones:
Una dey craze, transformer no dey blow?

Will you now say because if that you wld not use transformer to transmit electricity?

GOVERNORR:
Niger State or Niger?

Try de write clearly

MaxInDHouse:
Heavens!
Spiritual meaning: where you look up to for help just as subjects are looking up to their rulers for policies that will benefit all.
Earth!
Spiritual meaning: where rain from the Heavens falls to saturate the ground for the production of food and other things needed for life.

So the old heavens means the present human governments making life unbearable for people {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} God never create man to rule over his fellow human because no human can direct his own steps {Jeremiah 10:23} so can such he successfully direct the step of millions with different mindsets?
NO!

The old earth are wicked people who are complaining bitterly about their rulers but at the same time they won't support the policies set by their rulers for things to work out as those ones have planned and if by chance they are also given the chance to become rulers over their people they will do worse than those who ruled them in the past. Isaiah 57:20

In Paradise both will not be part of God's new order because Jesus (the designated King of God's Kingdom) will rule over 144,000 anointed Christians who in turn will rule over their people they are the New Heavens while the New Earth refers to a prepared organized people who have come out of all the nations to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So while the New Heavens (rulers taught by Christ) are playing their part in making the earth a haven their obedient subjects too will be working together with them to give God all the glory as they obediently support their rulers for a paradisic planet earth but what of rebellious people (turbulent SEA) who often makes things difficult for their rulers? Isaiah 57:20
They would have been exterminated all of them! Revelations 21:1 compare to Luke 19:27

Truthseeker10:
I am not obliged to answer. You can tell us the name of your church.

MaxInDHouse:
Stay away from the foolish man, For you will not find knowledge on his lips. Proverbs 14:7

What many have said about Maximus:







So there's no need wasting my precious time with people like you!

Even a false prophet has loyal and proselyte followers. That's nothing new in the world.

If you can blindly follow the misleading doctrines of Charles Taze Russells, who else can not be misled and deceived?

You should admit you find it difficult to match up with my method of exposing your deceptions and lies.

I see beyond your deceptive doctrines man.

Peace…

But this does not mean I'll still not counter your false doctrines whenever I come across them.

Truthseeker10:
Is the heaven the one that the angels live in?

Truthseeker10:
That is exactly the question that I asked you....please answer.

MaxInDHouse:
I can see you are hungrily running after me from thread to thread but i have told you that there is no sufficient time to waste on people like you.
So if you feel like teaching go out there and fish for your students there is freedom of speech, expression and worship you have no right to deprive anyone from airing his or her own opinion about God!

Do enjoy your day!

Truthseeker10:
So if this planet earth is the old earth, what is the old heaven?

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala go and teach whoever wants to learn from you i have lots of students in my neighbourhood who anticipates seeing me all the time!

I don't need anyone to learn from me. Rather, I want EVERYONE to learn from the LORD JESUS CHRIST Himself.

He knows best and teaches best.

Do you think I'm sent to make people follow me?
JESUS CHRIST is the Truth of the message.
So stop misleading people.

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word (Bible) the first person to alienate himself from God is a spirit son of God. He wasn't contented with his position as one out of many spirit sons of God rather he wanted more! Isaiah 14:12-13
But since he was alone in his rebellion he wanted others both angels and humans to join his rebel group that's why he possessed the most cautious creature in the garden of Eden {Genesis 3:1-5 compare to Matthew 10:16} he first spoke to Eve so that the woman can convince her husband to join the rebel group! Genesis 3:6
God cursed this rebellious angel that he will surely be destroyed but as long as he exists there will always be enmity between his rebel group and loyal worshipers of the true God! Genesis 3:15
He succeeded in diverting the attention of many angels away from divine assignment given to them in heaven so they joined his rebel group and lost their privileges as loyal spirit sons of God! 2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6
But the prophecy @ Genesis 3:15 has to do with rebellious humans too so who are those that proved to be offspring of the devil among humans in ancient times? John 8:44
What do they love doing and how can we IDENTIFY them today? 1John 2:18-19

To be continued.....

MaxInDHouse:
After the Israelites have stayed for centuries on the promise land David decided to build a befitting temple for the God of Jacob but God told him not to because David's hands are full of blood so Solomon was given the assignment to build a temple for the God of Israel.
Later this Temple was demolished by Babylonian army under the command of King Nebuchadnezzar but was later rebuilt and until the arrival of Christ Jesus the renovated temple stands in Jerusalem.
Jesus promised to demolish the temple once again and to rebuild it within three days.
How is he going to do that?

To be continued.....

MaxInDHouse:
First century Jews became so furious at what Jesus said after their people who heard him returned home to tell them what the supposed Messiah (Christ) told them about their most cherished place of worship.

Well Jesus wasn't talking about the physical temple {John 2:21} rather he meant another type of temple that's not stationed in a particular location that's why he told a Samaritan woman saying:

"Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” John 4:23-24

The day Jesus died something strange occur in the temple, the large curtain of the sanctuary was miraculously torn from top to bottom! Matthew 27:51

What does this signify and why did it got torn immediately Jesus died?

To be continued....

MaxInDHouse:
I don't have that time when there are many out there anticipating to see me and learn!

Truthseeker10:
Oga what is the old heaven and old earth?

Truthseeker10:
So what is the old heaven and earth, and what will he do to them?

paxonel:


Thank God you are not picking one to be correct over the other without critical objective analysis of the two like this mumu Westerhoffe and his religious types will do.

And what you have just done by not being biased is also not typical of you Jw, what happened?

MaxInDHouse:
I just dey entertain myself jàre none of you is my brother in faith so continue your argument!

paxonel:


Thank God you are not picking one to be correct over the other without critical objective analysis of the two like this mumu Westerhoffe and his religious types will do.

And what you have just done by not being biased is also not typical of you Jw, what happened?

guyboss:


From a logical point of view,

Your feelings isn't an index to give rise to any probable cause to think something horrible is about to hit the earth. Where? Neither you nor your feelings have an astute answer for that.

Even if, per se, such an occurrence do occur, the actions you are limited to are:
1. Attempt Suicide
2. Stay Silent and do Nothing
3. Voice out and create large-scale chaos.

Now,

That being said, our input in realm of affairs concerning time, matter and space,

... even if we transcend through matter to time and spare, na idleness dey do you. Or you got low dopamine or serotonin levels.

Get a cold chocolate drink, you'd feel much better.

Cheers.

paxonel:
you are absolutely wrong.

The quote says acquiring knowledge is not about walking with God, it's about studying.

If you fail to study your bible properly, then you are ignorant of the bible even though you are a believer and walks with God.
you don't need to discuss anything.
Just keep quiet

Because the more you talk, the more you are fooling yourself

Truthseeker10:
So is this your new heaven and earth in this physical universe or where is it?

paxonel:
All these people you mentioned studied at some point.
Lies!

1 Corinthians 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

First of all, you must understand that if you don't study to have knowledge, you cannot make wealth enough to do charity.
And if you cannot make wealth enough to do charity, your spiritual mysteries are nothing
it's the same thing I'm saying, The teacher must know first
Anything spiritual you have to say, must have evidence rooted in the physical, or it is nothing.
you do not have any scriptural evidence for this statement.
This kind of teachings are what ancient European missionaries came to Africa to teach. Meanwhile, today they don't believe the teaching anymore in Europe.
But on the contrary,

Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Luke17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
you see your problem?
Anything your pastor interprete to you in church is the written truth.
You will not find time to read this bible for yourself

paxonel:
you are absolutely wrong.

The quote says acquiring knowledge is not about walking with God, it's about studying.

If you fail to study your bible properly, then you are ignorant of the bible even though you are a believer and walks with God.
you don't need to discuss anything.
Just keep quiet

Because the more you talk, the more you are fooling yourself

paxonel:
why?
acquiring knowledge is not about walking with God, it's about studying.

See, you can walk with God for all you care, but if you are ignorant, you are ignorant.
I'm not JW.
I"m telling you that without Faith it is impossible to please God.
And that Adam and Eve sinned and lost eternal life, but Jesus Christ has restored back that eternal life to as many who have Faith in him.

This is not what will happen in the future, this is what has already happened
which radiance of Glory?

If you don't understand your bible, humble yourself and learn and stop saying what you don't know.

Jesus Christ has resurrected, that is the radiance of Glory you need.
Just as Christ resurrected, you too will resurrect into Glory the day you die.
That is the radiance of Glory the bible is talking about.
Not any mysterious and unrealistic fictional place away from the real earth where there is real life
and i often ask this simple question that non of you have ever gave a satisfactory explanation.

Revelation 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: AND THE KINGS OF THE EARTH DO BRING THEIR GLORY AND HONOR INTO IT

This is not what will happen in future this is what has already happened.

So, the question is, these kings of the earth, do they climb ladder from earth to heaven in order to bring their glory?

Think, before you answer the question

Please don't teach errors again.
If you don't know, it's better you keep quiet

MaxInDHouse:
Heavens!
Spiritual meaning: where you look up to for help just as subjects are looking up to their rulers for policies that will benefit all.
Earth!
Spiritual meaning: where rain from the Heavens falls to saturate the ground for the production of food and other things needed for life.

So the old heavens means the present human governments making life unbearable for people {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} God never create man to rule over his fellow human because no human can direct his own steps {Jeremiah 10:23} so can such he successfully direct the step of millions with different mindsets?
NO!

The old earth are wicked people who are complaining bitterly about their rulers but at the same time they won't support the policies set by their rulers for things to work out as those ones have planned and if by chance they are also given the chance to become rulers over their people they will do worse than those who ruled them in the past. Isaiah 57:20

In Paradise both will not be part of God's new order because Jesus (the designated King of God's Kingdom) will rule over 144,000 anointed Christians who in turn will rule over their people they are the New Heavens while the New Earth refers to a prepared organized people who have come out of all the nations to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So while the New Heavens (rulers taught by Christ) are playing their part in making the earth a haven their obedient subjects too will be working together with them to give God all the glory as they obediently support their rulers for a paradisic planet earth but what of rebellious people (turbulent SEA) who often makes things difficult for their rulers? Isaiah 57:20
They would have been exterminated all of them! Revelations 21:1 compare to Luke 19:27