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LordReed:
Ask yourself that question not me.

LordReed:
LoLz. It's you who is tensed. It was you who started with how it doesn't make sense. It was you who brought an example of jet fighter and when I use the same example you are freaking out. You are projecting my guy.

StillDtruth:
You need to check your understanding for i said nothing leading you to interprete my statements the way you interprete it.

Which is why i told you since that you have nothing reasonable to say just like everypne else. Its your preset mind and fallty understanding that is causing problem.

LordReed:
What did I say as a response to that? Did I insist that you must? If you where not prepared to answer the question you shouldn't have bothered only to become inflamed because I gave you a suggestion. All you had to do was not respond.

And I said I won't… what's the problem there?
Why are you tensed over that?

LordReed:
I didn't say my question I said my suggestion got you into a tizzy.

You are the one who can't let it go because it has got you in a tizzy.

LoLz. Are you not the one who brought up a fighter jet pilot why are you surprised with motion sickness in the example? You really are in a tizzy.

StillDtruth:
You are just being silly and petty. Did i say anything about God punishing David forever for this sin?

You are just looking for something to say since you have nothing.

Sapasenator:
Me too, I have been to and seen both. I even drank tea with the angels and played table tennis with the elders.

I don't like sarcasm when I'm being serious.

LordReed:
Yet a simple suggestion has got you in a tizzy. If you were an aspiring fighter pilot then not only are you afraid of a roller coster you get motion sickness from walking to the bathroom.

No, your question didn't get me any, but you just couldn't process it to accept my answer to turning you down.

I said I'm not documenting or telling you anything, but you refused to let go… what do you call that?

Motion sickness?
It seems you are whining me now…
Where do you think I am from and what do you think is my endurance capacity?

LordReed:
More like your answer could not rise to any decent level so you have to get defensive as if I am attacking you. LoLz.

StillDtruth:
So when and after you have finished punishing your child or person, you then forgive him?

Please, you do not have any reasonable thing to say.

Be reasonable…
Did GOD punish David forever?

LordReed:
I asked a question, if you weren't prepared to answer why did you bother? LoLz.

Reflect7:
GET THIS, YOU BIBLE HEADS:

Death is a TRANSITION BACK TO YOUR PRE-BIRTH CONDITION AS A POWERFUL, IMMORTAL SOUL.

You are NOT your physical body.

Your body is just a COAT worn to participate in Life on Earth.

When it is time for you to leave, you drop your coat and RETURN HOME.

NOBODY SENDS YOU TO ''HELL FIRE'' because you did not ''worship'' ''Jesus'' or even God or 'Muhammed'.

GROW UP.

GOD IS NOT THAT STUPID.

Why would you be punished when they ALL KNOW that you are a temporarily incapacitated soul ensconced in human form, lacking awareness of Ultimate Reality?

When THEY know that as soon as you return home, you would see and recollect everything again?

Why would you be burned in an eternal furnace?

IT'S ALL LIES.

Today, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE have reported 'near-death experiences', where a person certified clinically dead, with all bodily functions completely ceasing, recounts a wondrous Out-of-Body experience during the said time.


Common traits that have been reported by NDErs are:

A sense/awareness of being dead.

A sense of peace, well-being, painlessness and other positive emotions.

A sense of removal from the world.

An intense feeling of unconditional love and acceptance.

Experiencing euphoric environments.

An out-of-body experience (OBE). A perception of one's body from an outside position, sometimes observing medical professionals performing resuscitation efforts.

A "tunnel experience" or entering a darkness. A sense of moving up, or through, a passageway or staircase.

A rapid movement toward and/or sudden immersion in a powerful light (or "Being(s) of Light" or "Being(s) dressed in white" who communicate telepathically with the person.

Being reunited with deceased loved ones.

Receiving a life review, commonly referred to as "seeing one's life flash before one's eyes".

Approaching a border or a decision by oneself or others to return to one's body, often accompanied by a reluctance to return.

Suddenly finding oneself back inside one's body.

Connection to the cultural beliefs held by the individual, which seem to dictate some of the phenomena experienced in the NDE, but more so affects the later interpretation thereof



A 1975 study conducted by psychiatrist Raymond Moody on around 150 patients who all claimed to have witnessed an NDE stated that such an experience has nine steps.

The steps are:

Sudden peace and relief from pain.

Perception of a relaxing sound or other-worldly music.

Consciousness or spirit ascending above the person's body, sometimes remotely viewing medical professionals' attempts at resuscitation (autoscopy).

The person's spirit leaving the earthly realm and ascending rapidly through a tunnel of light in a universe of darkness.

Arriving at a brilliant "heavenly place."

Being met by "people of the light," who are usually deceased friends and family, in a joyous reunion.

Meeting with a deity that is often perceived as their religious culture would have perceived it, or as an intense mass emitting pure love and light.

In the presence of the deity, the person undergoes an instantaneous life review and understands how all the good and bad they have done has affected them and others.

The person returns to their earthly body and life, because either they are told it is not their time to die or they are given a choice and they return for the benefit of their family and loved ones.

Moody also explained how not every NDE will have each and every one of these steps, and how it could be different for each experience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience

LordReed:
LoLz. Then you say you aren't making claims. If it's not making sense it is because you aren't making sense.

LordReed:
And so I was showing you how to substantiate your claim. But you don't want to do something so simple because you think you'd be proving yourself to me? LoLz. It's so funny.

StillDtruth:
Punishment is proof of sin.

LordReed:
It was you who mentioned dreams in response to my question so it's not about proving anything to me.

StillDtruth:
Forgiveness only stops punishment. It does not cure sin.

And was David not punished?

LordReed:
Of course you're making claims, you are yet to substantiate anything you've said. And I am showing you the way to substantiate it. Start a dream journal, document your dreams then show me one you think will come to pass before it happens. Is that too hard to do?

I don't have to prove anything to you.
I should start a dream journal, then come to show you… because you're what?
Just end this…

LordReed:
Yes. Yes I am for real. It doesn't have to be public but it has to be verifiable. I will not believe anyone that says their dream came to pass otherwise nor do I expect you to believe me either.

LordReed:
You don't get it, you cannot prove you had a dream that came to pass after the fact. Anybody can make such a claim. So unless you documented it before hand then forget it.

I have dreams that come to pass too even as an atheist so what proof are dreams?

So, you mean I should have told you about them before they come to pass?
Like, document them, make them public, and wait for them to happen in reality?
Are you for real?

StillDtruth:
There is nothing like credit after a sin has been committed.

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you're the truth yourself.
Bwahahahaha!