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bobestman:
You lack understanding on these things and still forming wise
Do you even understand what ispiritual body is? According to your bible it a resurrected body or heavenly body. The later is far correct. It's your original body in the spiritual realm. If one is given the the privilege to ascend into the heavens, he need the spiritual body to ascend cos you can't function with your earthly body in the spiritual realm - IHave repeated this 3 times now. What is from earth is earth and what is spirit is spirit. Not everybody ascend. Only God men who are here from their on a mission. Heaven is not for all but immortals or ascended masters

What you also fail to understand is that the dead cannot receive a spiritual body. If they want to ascend they will have to resurrect with their earthly body and as they ascend into the heavens their body will be changed and hence they are clothed with a spiritual body. Christ died but can never go to heaven in death cos the dead can't see God but the living. This is why he resurrected before ascending into heaven. This is same with Elijah and Enoch. They didn't die but went ascended with their earthly body which will be changed as they ascend further
A resurrected body is not a spiritual body. Lazarus resurrected body is not a spiritual body. The ppl Christ raised from dead don't have spiritual body. Christ resurrected not with a spiritual body. But as a god man and a heavenly being on a mission he can recieve that body before he ascend. Some receive it as they ascend into the heavens. If he don't want to go to heaven after the resurrection he will be left with his physical body. So being a god man who want to ascend back and proof a point to his friends he recieved that body that made him look differently from others. That will never happen if he want to still remain ion earth. This is same as what you ppl call rapture in your ignorances and blindness. Once you begin to ascend your body will be changed or you recieve a spiritual body

The physical eye can't see a spiritual body....LOL. Christ was seen when he was ascending, Elijah was seen, Enoch was seen. My ancestors and some of yours who were true priests were seen before they ascend out of earth. Your spiritual body will only be given to you as you ascend out of earth not on earth. But that of Christ was different cos he was a great one. During the transfiguration, ppl saw Christ and the others. Their is nothing like a transformed immortal. Anybody who is privileged to see can see even unbelievers.

If you can't understand this simple things I say how will you understand what will happen to those in the grave? Those things are codes. Not what you can understand by mere reading

femi4:
CS is safe, you guys just need more exposure to know that science has improved in the last decade in these methodology

femi4:
Did you read how they allowed her to labour for long hours instead of performing CS

They claimed Nigerians are smart people but the comments on this thread are so unfortunate. Many of their submissions show that they are educated illiterate

cococandy:
You people are literally insane. Like for real.

Instead of thinking and brainstorming about how maternal mortality can be decreased in the country (not possible to eliminate it but it can be decreased) like in other progressive countries, you’re blaming online pictures.

Did the pictures somehow magically turned into a blood clot or amniotic embolism or sepsis and kill her?

With stupid thinking like this, no wonder nothing is working. You’ll blame everything but the actual reason for these unnecessary deaths which is that we’re not practicing medicine at the level we should be for all the resources we have.

But na. Let’s blame online pictures

MaxInDHouse:
This really amuses me because you can't see a spirit rather it's what they want you to perceive that you can see.
For instance one single spirit can appear to be 100 men standing in front of you, an animal with human head, one human body with several heads, one human body with countless limb or feet.
So it's whatever they materialized for purpose that you can see, in fact they mostly appear to people using the body and voice of dead loved ones that's what promotes the idea of living dead in all the nations except in Israel where God forbids His worshipers from consulting spirits because as their grand creator He knows what they're capable of doing.

As for Jesus who has returned to his former state as a spirit being he used that body to show Thomas that it's really him but in reality that's not the incorruptible and glorified body with which he resurrected.

GenerationNext:
After exposing your baby bumps in the social media, the next thing is death during childbirth. You think everybody is happy that you are pregnant. This is the mistake Nigerian ladies make. They follow everything white people do without thinking about the implications in our local environment.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know how SPIRIT BEINGS do operate so it's going to be difficult for you.

MaxInDHouse:
That's a materialized body to prove something not his real body (glorified) after resurrection!

MaxInDHouse:
Wounds are corruptible things in the body.
A blind man whose eyes aren't working has his eyes corrupted, a deaf has his ears corrupted, a lame has his limbs corrupted and so on.
So if Jesus should pick up the same body that was pierced with nail wounds how can you say such a body is INCORRUPTIBLE?

So he only materialized such a body to make his friend Thomas know that he is no longer dead note that only Thomas was shown that nail wounds because that's what he requested others only wanted Jesus to do things he used to do before and when he did it they don't care about his body anymore:


As they talked and discussed these things with each other, Jesus himself came up and walked along with them; but they were kept from recognizing him. ‭Luke 24:15-16 NIV‬

But after his usual way of counseling them with the scriptures they said:


“Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?” ‭Luke 24:32 NIV‬

So Jesus resurrected with another body which is not recognized even by his own disciples but he must do everything to save his unbelieving friend Thomas who said:

"Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will never believe it.” John 20:25

There are many things Jesus wanted to teach them but at that time they can't grasp it that's why he must deal with them according to knowledge. Act 16:12-13

MaxInDHouse:
Don't confuse yourself nah, Jesus didn't resurrect with that former CORRUPTIBLE BODY.

That's what we believe!

MaxInDHouse:
Incorruptible shouldn't carry WOUNDS.that's what you failed to know!

oneda:
For now it's ok
It's been one month now

MaxInDHouse:
He said to them:

“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now." John 16:12
So there are many things Jesus wanted them to know but as at that time they can't grasp it all so it's after they've been baptized with God's Holy Spirit that they realized Jesus didn't resurrect with a CORRUPTIBLE body that which could be destroyed with wounds such as nails! 1Corinthians 15:42
Thomas was a dear friend of Jesus who always wanted to see something before believing that is why Jesus needs to present a materialized body to convince his friend no wonder Jesus told him:
"so it's until you see these things that you will believe? Well blessed are those who didn't see me but believe" John 20:29

Thomas a good friend of Jesus needed to see all that before believing that his friend has been raised from the dead but in reality Jesus was raised as a spirit being! 1Corinthians 15:44-45

So stop following Thomas's ideas for he wasn't a strong believer he only love Jesus as a friend!

bobestman:
Hahaha you are the one far from understanding these simple things
I have explained to you twice what it takes to ancend into the dimensions of light but you still lack understanding. Your physical body can only function in this realm.

Elijah and Co were transformed before they can ascend. Can you fly into the air with your normal body? NO. They were transformed or given a spiritual body with which one can ascend into the realm of light. When one want to ascend, the physical body will die and the soul will take up a spiritual one

Your problem here is that you lack knowledge on the mystery of resurrection ancension. In resurrection, the soul is called back from the realm he is. In death some souls still stay around their body until they are buried. After burial they go to their realm. In 3 to 10 days some might have reached their realm while some are still walking to their realm. A higher power can decide to stop them or in the case of Lazarus call the soul back into the body. When this happens the soul goes back into that body and together with the spirit it resurrects. When this happens, it same person that came back. Same soul and body so it is not a spiritual or transformed body. It's same person that died that came back. So when Christ died and resurrected or came out from the soul realm, he came out with same body he died with not a spiritual or transformed body cos in this case the soul have to fused back into the body in the grave and the spirit will lighten it. This is why they all knew him and the scars was seen too. You resurrect with the body you died in. Ppl who died and came back or resurrected still have memory of everything about them.

But in ancension, you will have to put off the earthly body for a spiritual one that can function in the realm you are going

These things are simple but your hardened mind won't help you understand.

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bobestman:
Lol. I already answered your question
You can't leave this realm called earth with your weak earthly body.
The soul is the real you not your body. Your body is just a cloth you put on whenever you come to Earth. It's weak and limits your powers. This is why in visions and dreams you see yourself do extraordinary things but when you wake up in reality you can't do those things. Your weak body limits the power in your soul.
Your earthly body is made for this earth which is earthly
Your soul is made for a higher spiritual realm which is spiritual
As your soul can't function alone on earth without a body so your your earthly bodies will be shield off before you can enter a higher spiritual realm.
The Christ who is an ancient soul, a higher being and god man, when he wants to come to earth need to take on a body that is used on earth (Born again with an earthly body). He needed to be born of a woman to have our experience But on leaving earth he will shield that earthly body for a spiritual one used in higher realms

So anyone born of human who want to ascend out of this earth be it Elijah, Enoch, Christ, yiur ancestors etc must shield their earthly bodies for a spiritual one before they can ascend. Like I said earlier, to ascend, one must pass thru the Stargate which is in the sun. That sun alone will melt you earthly body. This is why a spiritual body is given if one wants to ascend

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MaxInDHouse:
Elijah was transported to another part of the earth just as a plane flies into the sky (heavens) today and lands in another part of planet earth and as for Enoch God took his life and kept him safe untill the time of the second resurrection when he will join billions like Abel and others who have earthly hope.

Only BORN AGAIN Christians can be taken to heaven and that is after their resurrection because sinful human bodies are corruptible so they can't go to heaven.

Regarding this Jesus said:

no (human) has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man. John 3:13

bobestman:
This ppl in their many errors have got understanding in many things more than you Pentecostals. No man can ancend into the heaven with his earthly body which is very weak and limits the power of the soul. Christ and many who Ascended are Ascended MASTERS. They have been their before they descended. Their aim whenever it is their season to reincarnate into earth is to instruct and guide others in truth especially when the world has been corrupted with lies and false teachings. When they finish their assignment they ascend back. Their kind are the only ones who ancend and descend to heaven. Heaven is a spiritual place and not for everyone but the chosen masters.

So Christ truly resurrected but to ascend, he must put off the earthly body which limits the capabilities of the soul. When you sleep or meditate your physical body is dead and the soul is alive with his capabilities, that is why you see visions, fight and conquer that is if your soul is powerful. Your earthly bodies limits the power of your soul. For Christ to ascend after resurrection he must shield that earthly body. Anyone who want to ascend must pass thru the Stargate which is in the Sun a powerful light, your earthly body can not stand it and it must die and you will be given a new one before you can go further. This is what is written as spiritual body. You ascend with a spiritual body not your earthly body which is weak. Many of us are ancient souls just like the Christ but we can't remember things that happen in our past lives cos of the the weak body we were clothed with but when we sleep or meditate we can see or have knowledge of things we did in the past. Your earthly body limits the power of your soul. Christ Ascended with a spiritual body not the earthly one

This also makes it clear to you Christians that one can't enter wherever you know as heaven or see God as a dead person. Christ need to resurrect with his physical body before he can ascend. You can't see God as a dead man but as a living cos only the living can praise or see God

We this few points of mineI I have proofed to you that JWs are right on this and that many of you Pentecostals have few knowledge on this issues

Thank you

MaxInDHouse:
What happened to Lazarus at his resurrection?

MaxInDHouse:
So it is with the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised up in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised up in power. It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However, what is spiritual is not first. What is physical is first, and afterward what is spiritual. The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven. Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust; and like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. And just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we will bear also the image of the heavenly one. But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 1 Corinthians 15:42-50

With this it's evident that Christ was given another body (spiritual) according to verse 44 (incorruptible) according to verse 42 without which no one can go to heaven according to verse 50.