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IslamRe: Bala Mubarak; A Disgrace On The Part Of Islam And The Police. Sahara Reporters by whitelotus(op): 9:42am On May 24, 2020
Saucyxo:
Bala was arrested for insulting the Prophet. I would like to see where the Prophet called the higher powers at that time pedophiles and terrorists. Also, this is against the law of the place he lives in... like I don’t understand what he thought would happen. It’s against the law to posses a gun in the UK. Someone will now say well it’s my human right to carry what I want and they’re shocked they get arrested.

I’m just letting you know that even if there was instances in Tasfir, I wouldn’t go against my religion. I would go educate myself so I would understand or I’ll just leave it. Allah knows best.
You are so wrong.

Your prophet cursed those who drink and sell alcohol. Your prophet cursed christians too.

Bala Mubarak was not insulting the prophet, he was stating facts about the prophet.

Sharia law does not apply to non-muslims. So,Bala did not break any law.
PropertiesRe: Please Help. My Apartment Is Being Haunted By A Ghost. by whitelotus: 3:28am On May 24, 2020
Ishilove:
Why do I find this story hard to believe? Why will a ghost haunt you when you didn't have a hand in her death?

Abegi, find another script
I'm happy that at least I touched your life with healthy scepticism.

The old you would have been shouting spirit husbands and ghosts up and down. Now, you scrutinise ghost stories.


kiss
IslamRe: Bala Mubarak; A Disgrace On The Part Of Islam And The Police. Sahara Reporters by whitelotus(op): 1:08am On May 24, 2020
Saucyxo:
Did you really say the universe is imperfect because 70% of the Earth is inhabitable?
Yes. Because 95 percent of that water is salt water.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 12:55am On May 24, 2020
incogni2o:
changing to suite your narrative again, I wouldn't stop responding to you though.

I am sure of what I believe, I am sure you are oblivious of what you believe and it's the devil that's controlling you mind.

and as the Bible says

: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Spoken like a fanatic. You are so sure, so absolute that you can ever be wrong. Your God is the only real God. Yor holy book is the only real holy book.

Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 12:46am On May 24, 2020
incogni2o:
which shows you are fake. Being logical and reasonable 'isn't reacting. Reacting means you are getting emotionally attached which is dangerous.

Muslims react to people cursing Moamd
Do you know the definition of react?

TV/MoviesRe: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by whitelotus: 12:42am On May 24, 2020
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 12:41am On May 24, 2020
incogni2o:
are you here to react or to reason?
I'm here to reasonably react. cool
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 12:40am On May 24, 2020
incogni2o:
is meaning an absolute or relative term in this context ?

if relative, how do you find meaning in that relative sense.

if absolute too, how do you find meaning in an absolute sense of existence.

I believe in an absolute meaning though, my life should have an absolute meaning, if not, it's still meaningless in any relative way to try to explain.
I would say the meaning is "fixed" instead of using "absolute". The meaning of words and things are fixed upon certain conditions. But once those conditions change, the meanings change.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 12:29am On May 24, 2020
incogni2o:
0. being comprehensive doesn't mean writing epistles, or does it ?

you are twisting what prov says, totally off what you are saying, wisdom is found in being comprehensive, never in giving a short comprehensive response.

1. I already told you God is a personality similar to ours in the sense of making us in his image, you twisted your response away from that.


2. if they are killed, why is the killing increasing? your conclusions are without evidence or do you have any evidence to back up your claim. I am agnostic when it comes to that, find something logical to convince me blood money isn't real with the killings we are experiencing.

4. Funny you say I am being dishonest after exposing your ignorance, are you saying the screenshot I posted was wrong? or that I don't know an evangelist is also someone who preaches the gospel.

infact, gospel means good news which is where the other definition comes from.

I am not dishonest, just exposing your ignorance. Do you agree you are trying to make disciples now and lead people astray now or not?
0. Move on. My comments are comprehensive enough. If you want epistles, join a writing club

1. God is not man, stop remixing your own bible. That the bibl

2. You are just repeating yourself on this issue. Human body parts do not turn to money. There is no magic there. Simple and short.

4. You went for the second meaning that is more colloquial. You omitted the original meaning- that was dishonest
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 12:25am On May 24, 2020
incogni2o:
Thats what you are best at.

making mokery of other people's beliefs and convictions without proper understanding.
You are wrong. The guy went into full preaching mode and I reacted appropriately. Imagine having a discussion, only for someone to start hammering gibberish at you.
IslamRe: COVID19: A Lesson To All Muslims And Mockers by whitelotus: 12:05am On May 24, 2020
babakb:
Muslims that have died as a result of Covid 19 are less than 2% of total deaths of Covid 19 globally, if you doubt it prove me wrong...

If you are not a Muslim you won't understand the calamity that befalls unbelievers, people that practice and advocate atheism, idolatry, LGBT, islamophobia, phonography, incest etc

On Judgement day Allah out of his perfect justice will never equate Muslims and Non-Muslims and that is why HE is showing the signs now so that Non-Muslims will understand and repent.
I am weak from your fanatical comments.
IslamRe: Bala Mubarak; A Disgrace On The Part Of Islam And The Police. Sahara Reporters by whitelotus(op): 12:04am On May 24, 2020
Saucyxo:
Ehhhhhhh lol wait how this one take concern me now biko. Like I KNOW you are joking. All you have to do is read a little on history to know that Christians do not make empty threats. Christians do not play with blasphemy.

You just like this my moniker. Just admit it.
undecided
IslamRe: Bala Mubarak; A Disgrace On The Part Of Islam And The Police. Sahara Reporters by whitelotus(op): 12:02am On May 24, 2020
Saucyxo:
I could be a full grown 60 year old man.
No. You talk like a young woman.

Well, who knows anything? Two weeks ago, somebody claimed that I'm a white man masquerading as a black man. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:56pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:
I became a Christian after my first encounter with the word "Christian Soldiers"!
As a Muslim and Soldier carrying weapons against my fellowman wasn't pleasurable to me but i have to do it anyway because i believed in defending my country and people. So the word "Christian Soldiers" sounds preposterous because i've read the Bible several times and focusing on the Bible's main Character Jesus, there is nowhere this guy used weapons or encouraged using it, so i started asking myself "how can one be a Christian and at the same time fighting for Jesus who never engaged in physical battle?"

But i soon understood fully the meaning when i met Jehovah's Witnesses!

The aim of any army is to make the opposing side surrender their weapons NOT TO KILL THEM! undecided

So the best army the world never had is that which will make their enemies surrender without the use of force or weapons or records of casualties (numbers of dead oppositions) to scare them!

Well Jehovah's Witnesses performed excellently in this regard. Their strategy is what the army calls PSYCHOLOGICAL APPROACH! They will not force their enemies rather they will compel them to surrender all harmful weapons willingly and wholeheartedly, not only that but each disarmed soldier of the opposing side will become part of them to start fighting on WITHOUT THE USE OF FORCE, WEAPONS NOR RECORDS OF CASUALTIES!

There is no army in human history that had a great Commander in chief whose soldiers are not fighting to kill but making the opposing side surrendering peacefully, willingly and wholeheartedly like that!

That's why i believe what an ancient prophet wrote about Jesus of Nazareth saying :-

he will be called the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6 smiley
Go and sleep.

You are not fooling anyone. If you talk too much, I will report you to your elders in the kingdom hall or watchtower that you are fraternising with atheists grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:54pm On May 23, 2020
Joshthefirst:
Abi is that not what you believe. See, you cannot eat your cake and have it. You cannot claim life is meaningless and meaningful at the same time cheesy
The paradox of meaning should have cleared this simple point for you. A thing can mean something else on a different scale. A boat can be a few metres short of being a yatch.


I am amused by your mockery, though. A sign of your unwillingness to learn
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:45pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
What scrutiny are we talking about. And btw slavery was eastern tradition at the time. Even before the advent of Europeans in Africa, slavery was widely practiced but note that God gave the Israelites a timeline for slavery after which they were to let the slave go.
Is God not powerful to stop slavery at once? He couldnt forbid the Jews from doing it and punish anyone who refused?

See the contradiction of an all powerful and merciful God?
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:41pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
Really? How come it doesn't kill the fishes and aqualife if I'm to follow you to your small detracted tunnel
Do you know what salt alone does to your body?
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:37pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
What do you think is the function of the brain?



Have you heard of the headless chicken that survived for some days before dying? How do you think that's possible?
Part of the brain remained. Read the full story of mike the headless chicken.

The brain is vital to our consciousness. No brain, no consciousness
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:35pm On May 23, 2020
incogni2o:
0. You started the thread right, but the passion to comprehensively explain isnt there, you should be ready not just to give responses, but be comprehensive also.

1. With Great Power comes great responsibilities, Yes . Responsibilities to care about every single soul he created, including you. Responsibility enough to make a way of salvation for mankind. Great characteristics, well i clearly dont get what you mean by that.

2. So you are saying people arent slaughtered and thier body dismembered?

4. See this screenshot below and confirm to me you are still ignorant of a whole lot of simple things but choose to blindly lead others.

Go and make further research before coming here to lead others astray.
0. Where is your compassion and common sense? Do you really want me to be writing epistles? Even the bible says "a word is enough for the wise"

Proverbs 17:27; A wise man will be of few words: A fool may gain the reputation of being wise if he have but wit enough to hold his tongue

1. The simple story is that your God is illogical. How can an omnipotent God get jealous? Someone that knows what will happen before it happens?

2. I am saying that they are slaughtered but money does not just appear in a room after the sacrifice like how it is told in the movies.

4. Thanks for being dishonest- here is the main meaning of "evangelism" from the same dictionary;

Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:22pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
Are you implying that too much water is waste? Do you know the human body is 70% water? Of course not or are you implying you're a waste too?
95% of the earth's water is salt water. You drink that water and you die. grin
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:16pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
Not really. I've seen a few flip because of that. I was thinking you were in that company.

So since that's being eliminated? How did you become an atheist?
I became an atheist after reading about slavery in the bible. It chilled me to the bone. Then, as time went on, I started seeing more and more contradicitions and then, I went on to find evidence for God............


long story short, your bible does not hold up to scrutiny
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:09pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
If you don't believe in an afterlife, can you explain the mechanism of dreaming? You sure had a few haven't you?
My brain is working when I am dreaming.

My brain wont work when I am dead.

A clear difference
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 11:08pm On May 23, 2020
Joshthefirst:
How do you acknowledge the meaninglessness of a speck of dust such as your life is and then go ahead and say that you, in your meaningless existence, can give your short and meaningless life some meaning? You even go ahead and give a meaningless analogy. This is quite senseless. But more to come...
As usual, you fail to understand and then, blame me for your lack of understanding. I gave a simple analogy to explain how in a wider sense, something can be meaningless but we humans can attach meaning and purpose to that thing.

You dismissed the analogy without any sensible objections. This is not fair.

Another analogy- A paradox of meaning/scale- a "heap of sand" is just sand clustered together. Now, at what point does that heap turn to a "sprinkling of sand" if we remove from the heap, grain by grain?

The paradox is to show how meanings of things change at different scales and that the line drawn between them is arbitrary (ergo meaningless)

This is just like how on the grand scale of things, life is meaningless and paradoxical. We are born to die. Every day we live is another day we get closer to death. Every day we live, we also die. Should the sun explode, the earth will be decimated and all our human inventions or logic will be for nothing- just gone.

However, individually, we can choose to make meaning of what has no meaning. Writing on a blank slate.





Joshthefirst:
Jesus didn’t die for nothing, his torment has won him followers in the billions since his cross, there are currently about 500,000 messianic Jews with more to come, and you lie, Christianity is actually increasing in the world today. But this is a red herring, a bird cheesy
Could it be that faced with the unfortunate meaningless of your life and the fact that you can actually and logically do nothing to add any meaning to it, you try to distract the question and attack my religion? Is this what atheism and humanism is? A purported meaningless existence, the best its representatives can offer being to attack questioners who ask them the honest question of their foolish position? I wonder.
Christianity (religion) is dying in all developed countries. America, UK, Europe, Singapore, Japan etc. Pick any top 10 countries and you will see that they are increasingly secular.

I also repeat that most Jews arent christians and most Jews do not believe in Jesus. That is a fact. Jesus failed his own people. His death was meaningless. He came for the lost sheep of isreal. The sheep are still lost.


Joshthefirst:
And this is the sum total of the foolishness of atheism folks:

A self proclaimed meaningless entity goes on to foolishly proclaim that he, in his meaningless existence, can infuse his meaningless life with meaning. From where pleasehuh

And here is more, If this meaningless entity screams and believes that all life is meaningless, then what is the point of holding on to “logic” and “rationality” and “science”? And seemingly upholding them against religion? What is the point of seeking to explain anything of your meaningless views? Or struggling to share this meaningless and unfortunate way of life to others? If one truly believes we are all in the same meaningless blue mass?
I will point you to my first paragraph. Address the points and the analogy. Dont get into your soapbox and dramatise your disdain of my beliefs or lack thereof.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 10:48pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
Can you point out contradictions in the bible?
An omniscient God that knows everything that will happen is somehow jealous in the bible.

A God that doesn't change moved from vengeance in the old testament to peace/salvation in the new testament.

A God that is so good but allowed slavery as an institution s

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 10:43pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
Do you think the universe is an accident. Do you know that a few inches closer to the earth and the sun will kill off all life in the earth. Do you know that thst interplanetary forces are perfectly poised to support gravity, that microscopic differences will alter. There is no clear proof of a God but the universe is clearly designed. It's too perfect not to be. Do you know about statistical indeterminacy that you can't simultaneously determine the position and momentum of an electron?Do you know if all the empty space in an atom collapsed, all the universe will fit into a grain of sand? Scientists can not account for that they call it dark matter. It shouldn't be possible but it is. Do you think these things are coincidences?
The universe is also poorly designed. If there is a creator, he or she must be somewhat reetarded. The universe is filled with vast amounts of empty space while the earth is 70% water. Just imagine that waste.

There is no proof of a god. even if there is a creator, he or she might just be some highly powered alien. See the engineers in the Alien/Prometheus movie franchise.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 10:38pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
Apparently you are misinformed. People know what happens after death and it is called the afterlife! And the brain is still alive for minutes after death. Read about Near death experience and out of body experience to recondition your thinking. There's is life after death because the soul doesn't die. This plane of existence is only transient at our core, we are energy and energy cannot be destroyed, it only mutates.
No one knows what happens after death. Near death experience is not death. People hallucinate at times in such extreme situations. All the christian pastors who claim that they went to heaven and back are all liars because they all tell different stories. The same bible they use says that God is not a god of confusion....so why are pastors telling confused stories?

Energy is converted, yes. But the human body is converted to fertilizer for the soil. A different energy without consciousness.

There is nothing like the soul. Only your consciousness.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 10:34pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:
Which person's death are you blaming on God?
Is that what you think atheists do? Blame death of loved ones on God? huh
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 10:33pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:
So you're not as tough as you claim! cheesy

Sorry Sir, i'm not here to exchange words with you.

Just know that when it comes to real intelligence, Christianity will bury atheism! Isaiah 54:17
I didnt want to waste time talking about Jehovah's Witness as an organisation. A cult that has no bearing.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus(op): 10:23pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:
Cult is not the issue now Sir! cheesy

It's how well the job your humanism concept did, and so far there is none! cheesy
Kindly explain your problem with secular humanism....

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