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themilanway:
I stopped reading at"Orubebe had a genuine case".
I won't indulge you by replying those lame points you raised.
Stay safe.

you already finished all...
Any constructive counter

mrmetoo1:
No I wasn't, if you're not just trying to oppose what I'm saying you'll realize we're saying the same thing just naming different players that contributed. In my first response to the OP, I said "Well I guess Asari was in Buhari's camp ..." Why did I write that? I did because OP was trying to make it seem it was only from Buhari trouble would have come from. What I did was to list people on the other side that contributed to the tension. Damn! You guys have made me type this thing a 100x

Bro, the point you fail to understand is that there's difference between the leader and the led...

Buhari came out as a violent and intolerant man...so also his fans...

Jonathan came out as the opposite...so asari and co would have NOT done anything since there hero isn't in support... Just like they did after he made the call...

Note reactions to results...Up north, they stayed awake and blocked streets even with curfew in place....

Down South... they voted and went home...

So who was disposed for violence among the duo

mrmetoo1:
Again I'm not arguing about who or where the first shot was fired from, the truth is I really don't have that information. All I've said from the beginning was the period was tense as opposed to what OP was trying to say like it was Buhari's statement that made him realize there could have been violence.

You've come back that Amechi added to the tension and I'm not going to deny that. In the posts following my first one, I've said it came from both sides. The OP was trying to insinuate it was one sided is the reason I mentioned guys from the other side that also contributed.

Fine, take it from me that such was initiated by buhari and fans...PDP and Jonathan only returned the favour...

Finally, we all know buhari antecedents in terms of election... 2003,2007,2011, and 2015 would not have been different as well...They would have enjoyed the sight of innocent bloods if not for Jonathan stance...thanks

mrmetoo1:
What does the timeline of threats have to do with election period being tense? The point I was trying to make was the election period was tense and yes part of the people that contributed to it especially this past election period was Asari. I never said he was the only one that contributed to it, the fact is it was a tense period. That's all!!

You're being mischievous by shifting attention to Asari statements which were REACTIONS to threats from others especially up north and APC stalwarts...He didn't come out to issue any threat before the ones up north...

themilanway:
When I say GEJ/PDP sympathizers are nothing but hypocrites some thinks that I'm harsh.

So Buhari was planning to turn Nigeria to Somalia yet he and his party demanded and insisted the card reader and voters card be used,against the wish of Jonathan and his goons who suddenly were against the use of the card readers?

So Buhari was planning to turn Nigeria to Somalia,suddenly the idea of Jega must go materialized with a month to the elections?

He was planning to turn Nigeria to Somalia Orubebe almost held Jega and Nigeria to hostage even before the results were announced?

I guess Orubebe is from the North and an APC card carrying memeber?

What didnt you GEJ sympatizers throw at Buhari?

What conspiracy theories didn't you cook up about him?

Yet you have the audacity to call his supporters hypocrites,dude you are the century's hypocrite.

GEJ was smart enough to realize he was heading to prison,hence,he made that single most important call of his life.

Though I have noted this moniker for childish statements but let me indulge you a little...

1)Jonathan was against PVC and he released funds to jega for same?...PDP stood against use of card reader for the singular reason of malfunctioning which we saw was justified later on...

2)Imagine if the table was turned around in the incident of card reader rejecting Jonathan and it was buhari...what would have been the outcome?

3)Don't you think Jonathan if he was as desperate as buhari would have called off the election once the card reader rejected him repeatedly...

4) Buhari started the call for jega sack as far back as 2011...when jega favoured his stronghold in PVC distribution at the expense of Jonathan strongholds; he kept mute...Don't you think Jonathan would have stopped the whole process if he was desperate?

5)Orubebe had a genuine case though I may disagree with mode and manner of presentation...Selective justice has been part of the corruption in Nigeria...

6)The judiciary aren't on strike....if buhari thinks anybody lied against him...let him sue for defamation in court of competent jurisdiction...

mrmetoo1:
At least you have admitted Asari made threats, we're getting somewhere.

We could go back and forth all day about who started what, my point is the election period was tense. I spoke to GEJ supporters that said "Buhari will never be my president' tell me you didn't see that on Nairaland. Now if someone goes ahead to make that statement, what goes through your head? Some said they'll rather see Nigeria go to war, some said they'll rather handover to the military, they were many here also on Nairaland. I'm not saying Buhari supporters were not also guilty of adding to the tension but there were enough utterances and actions to go around from both sides to make anyone come to the conclusion that period could have been violent.

GEJ supporters keep clamoring for a peace prize, why is this the case if there wasn't tension? People keep calling GEJ a man of peace even Buhari still gives him props because if GEJ had rejected or cancelled the result, violence would have broken out from both sides. Buhari's aggrieved supporters and GEJ's supporters trying to defend their principal and interests. Orubebe did his part as a bait, we're glad Jega didn't take that bait. If violence had broken out after the elections, it would have clearly been along tribal lines, this is the reason Buhari said he was worried. Somalia with their mono-religion waged war for years among each other, what do you think would have happened in Nigeria that's made up of multi-ethnic, multi-religion sets of people.

Though there was tension first and foremost ignited by APC threats through folks like amechi who encouraged mutiny in the army and opted for parallel government etc...PDP and Jonathan supporters decided then to reciprocate the favour as none has monopoly of violence...

Even the intrigues of jega did not help matter...

Threats from Gov Shettima to dethrone emirs supporting PDP or Jonathan was there too...

Check dates of events and see who are on the offensive and defensive in this issuance of threats plzzzz...

mrmetoo1:
Guy are you kidding?? Are you even being serious? What are you giving up? Buhari said he was worried.. Asari threatened.. how is that comparing? I said what I was said about Asari to show how anyone including the sitting president could have come to the conclusion that the election could be violent.

John Kerry came here during the election period, what do you think he came for? Suya?? Kofi Anan came to sign a peace agreement, why did that happen? A couple of head of states came right before the election, why did that happen? You saw people like Abdulsalami Abubakar shuttling about on election day, why was that happening? The atmosphere was tense and you denying that makes me know you're not being truthful.

Then you say propensity of PMB soldiers, can you please give evidence. I listed mine Asari, his wife, Jimi Agbaje, Orubebe, Doyin Okupe, Doyin Okupe's aide. We saw these people come out at one time or the other to threaten, warn, brag about Buhari never being president. Then all indications pointed to a Buhari victory, so what are you saying?

Stop standing the truth on its head...
1)Buhari issued the first threat before anybody else as early as 2011...

2)Prof Ango Abdullahi followed up with his own threat...

3)Dr Junaid Mohammed took the baton from him...

4)Northern Elders forum came in...

5)Arewa consultative forum joined...

6)One Emir did too at Confab...

7)And their youths followed up by stoning Jonathan at campaigns...

Asari and other militants threats came after these actions...which they later withdrew their statements publicly too...

Speak truth to your conscience man...

PassingShot:
Nothing good can ever come from haters! They view every move and gesture with jaundiced lenses!

Peace!

Hehehehehe...Did you read the opinion of fellow hypocrite;Femi Falana about Buhari trying to lease out Nigeria to western folks?...Imagine Cameron tweeting about Nigeria as if it is a subsidiary company of UK...Pray Buhari doesn't turn Nigeria into another Haiti through the machinery of his western lords...

I invited you to another thread on Soyinka...I need you to read all the articles and links there...then present your opinion or maybe counter those facts with superior information... thanks bro

https://www.nairaland.com/2258312/wikileaks-shows-how-us-govt#32760123

https://www.nairaland.com/2367029/soyinkas-contract-cia-began-during