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kaboninc:
They shot themselves......

Yes...and that's same mistake passingshot, 1Stola and other folks who take partisanship beyond reasonable and decent cadre are making...because all they fought against will come to hurt and hunt them now...

They will see how easy it is to tear down as opposition than to build as a leader...journey just begun...You can win election through lies and propaganda but cannot sustain governance through same because your past will always hunt you

atlwireles:
You know 99% of the noise makers on this thread don't know this to be the real situation on ground.

Passingshot is leader of such partisan and smart by half 99%...

kaboninc:
This is one reason why subsidy has to go.

And go now!

Not at all...buhari said there's nothing like subsidy alongside his party...so any attempt to remove it would be challenged too...

If he tries to remove it; I support NLC...TUC...etc to embark on protest...demand salary increase...etc...

StOla:
Yet we had money to pay more as subsidy to friends of the president?
Yet we preferred to import at international price via licensed importers when the government could have taken charge of delivering the crude to a refinery abroad and getting its content worth of all crude oil fractions as postulated by Buhari, to meet up for shortages due to capacity limitations of our refineries?

I don't understand you bro...

1)Do we stop importation of fuel to avoid subsidy while refineries are dysfunctional?

2)Price of oil is not within the preview of Nigeria but internationally fixed by OPEC...wonder why buhari was ridiculed for saying he will fix oil price?...don't be ridiculous plzzzz

3)Hehehehe...oil business is not like akara or tomato business... just same reason why you guys criticized Jonathan on weapon purchase without knowing what's involved or process of such transaction...

4) With refineries at full capacity, Nigeria will still import fuel because daily consumption rate far outweighs domestic refining capacity...so subsidy remains

StOla:
I believe the OP already showed that the contracts were signed by the GEJ administration, given the dates detailed.

The crux of the matter is the deliberate intention to make a routine process seem like rocket science. Now that we have a change in government, the lies have stopped and we now have a progress we would not have had from the previous government that wasn't truly interested in prompt project delivery.

This is what Diezani had to say during the subsidy protests of January 2012.



We should vilify GEJ for being treated like a dunce by his own appointees. Yet we thank him for leaving the stage after we duly sacked him, saving us the effort to come drag him out of Aso Villa bedroom a la Laurent Gbagbo.

1)Past and present events has vindicated diezani words as true and statement of fact...privatisation is key...deregulation of oil which everybody is advocating means selling those refineries to private individuals... which is the reason for PIB which is gathering dust in national assembly...

3)If you support passage of PIB, by that support deregulation of oil sector...and insult Diezani for saying government has no business running refineries...then you're a confused nincompoop because you don't even understand PIB or what it represents...

3)Passingshot who you support is simply saying that these actions are to the credit of buhari hence my calling him names...because in all he said, there's nowhere he submitted anything that shows buhari input...so how did he come about that we should thank buhari

4)If the TAM is easy; why did it not work under APC chief consultant; Obasanjo...Why not Google same to see why they are in a fix?...Why not apply same to our Abeokuta steel company to see how easy or less complex such engineering work are

Nigeria is doomed with sycophantic, chronic partisan mentality, and insincere folks like passingshot...

PassingShot:
Seems you just got yoir head around "schizophrenic" as it's your preferred word of abuse nowadays.

The fact that as recent as February and March of this year NNPC was still looking to sign TAM agreement and promised 2016 as the date for our refineries to work , has rubbished all your arguments.

Keep your insults coming. I am more than immune to them, little boy.

I am not insulting you but telling you the truth about who and what you're... you slowpoke!c braggart...

Go back because you lack comprehension skill to your links and read them again...

They are talking about an action already executed but being reported in the present...

They engaged original builders who refused and recommended another group...pricing of new group was too high...they now engaged local engineers...which is what he's describing...his report wasn't a future action but a reportage of past event...

Hope I have taken it down to your comprehension level...onuku

I threw you a challenge initially... I repeat myself again... bring on any evidence of project initiation...project financing...project support by executive fiat or policy or whatever by Alhaji dogoyaro Buhari or become NL ediotic, sadistic, hypocritical, and deranged fellow...

StOla:
You are so blind, you still do not see how a whole government was planning to deceive its citizens into believing the repair of refineries is rocket science, just to keep their cronies importing fuel and contributing to the fund raising appeals of their party.

Now the government has changed hands and the true state of things are being revealed.

Why did it take so long to achieve what could have been done for so little over 2 years ago?

I so much love this change.

With refineries at full capacity, Nigeria will still import fuel because daily consumption rate far outweighs domestic refining capacity...

Can you compare this with reduced subsidy funding in 2015 budget by Jonathan and see why he did that...

Have you not read here and even in the said post the challenge they have with original project contractors abi builders...Funding incapacitation?...etc

StOla:
You are a pathological dullard.

Delivery dates have suddenly changed within a period of 4 months and the completion is now just a month away, yet you still find it unreasonable that a criminal collusion existed between the government and the beneficiaries of our sorry state of affairs.

Meanwhile the minister was already planning to sell off the same assets we are to now enjoy.

You are a dream citizen of an enemy within posing as a patriotic government.

Change couldn't have come at a better time.

Because of funding challenge, they spread same funding over 18months...

Why not go back and count same from that month and see how logical you're...

Then also show me an evidence where buhari either paid, or approved or initiated anything towards these refineries...

Fashola who you worship has delivery date of June 2013 for his rail...check today's date and tell me the state of the project and whereabouts of billion dollar loan borrowed for same...

Should we vilify or thank Jonathan for having his contractors deliver earlier that scheduled

DropShot:
You're the one who has proved to be deranged and angered by this post. Why not counter the OP's points instead of resulting to insults and name calling which are clearly signs of people lacking in ability to argue with facts.

All the facts stated favours Jonathan but because he's deranged and schizophrenic he could not see them hence deserves every insult...

1)There's evidence of project initiation by Jonathan...

2)There's evidence of project financing by Jonathan...

3)There's evidence of project execution by Jonathan...

4)There's evidence with some discrepancy in date of delivery... a forecast which is subject to human factor or error...

5)There's NO evidence that alhaji dogoyaro did anything towards this project either by policy or funding or anything...

6)So why would a sane mind ever think of applauding dogoyaro here...why same folks would support that it is not late for alhaji dogoyaro to appoint his cabinet or judge him with increased bombing by insurgents...

Jorussia:
Please stop quoting me,kid

Good to be a kid with some matter upstairs than an adult with ediotic and sadistic reasoning like yours...

SarahBabyxx:
Instead of calling him an I'diot why don't you counter his points

What point are there to counter

The stupidddd and bigoted passingshot showed evidence of project initiation by Jonathan... evidence of project financing by Jonathan...with discrepancy in date of delivery...

Now the contractor delivered before date of forecast instead of being happy and sincerely ascribing praise to the right man...he's foaming through the mouth...I wanted to see him show a SINGLE evidence linking Buhari to the TAM of those refineries but alas NONE...yet he thinks in his deluded and schizophrenic mind that Jonathan isn't the architect of all these...

Now compare this to reduced subsidy fund in 2015 budget and it will show you that Jonathan has already planned and incorporated all those in...

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
APC were crying for absence of subsidy provision in 2015 budget to the amazement of all Nigerians because they had no clue of President Jonathan's plans on how to go around subsidy in 2015.

Goodluck Jonathan and his economic team have worked out how to manage low crude prices and still keep the country flying hence they overhauling of all the country's refineries.

Ask yourselves, Why should Jonathan drastically cut subsidy budget if the refineries were not going to work? Answer - He has taken care of our refineries

Remember, our refineries are outdated hence spares are had to assess because original equipment manufacturers have stop supporting the system.

God bless you...

GOATandYAMtheory:
what is this barca's yesman saying again? when will u ever makesense? You call it mere forecast? Something that was forecasted to function in 18months begins to function a year earlier because power changed hands. SMH for U. And na person born u o!

happy to be barcanista yesman...because it will be pathetic to be a sadistic and ediotic you...

Now...compare your reasoning to Fashola cum APC Lagos rail with delivery date of June 2013 with billions of dollars down the drain...Today, it is about more loans to finance same project....

Jorussia:
.I believe the NNPC and the ministry of petroleum were not sincere about the real state of our refineries. They kept on telling Nigerians that they have signed turnaround maintenance, and yet no work on ground to show for it.In the past administration,we were told that turnaround maintenance takes between 6-12 months,but one wonders how this turnaround maintenance is taking few weeks to do.The bottom line is,our refinery was not as bad as we were made to believe, rather the agents of NNPC and ministry wanted the continuation of petroleum importation for their selfish interest.Its the body language of PMB,that has brought this new development.

Common sense isn't common sincerely... Why are you pathetic and bigoted cretins foaming through the mouth because a company delivered before its date of forecast...what a bunch of sadists...You expect them to be advertising their work schedule and progress on the dailies to satisfy nincompoops like you?...

HiGod:
Haha lol!!! Foolish thing on the run....

I need to leave you behind before you stain me with your senselessness and ediotic tendencies...

geesampower:
Op, I must admit. Your argument makes a lot of sense. IF it was a function of the last administration (GEJ) I don't think they would have been telling us in March (gej as president) that we would be having functional refineries by 2016, then all of a sudden back-track and say refineries will be functional in a months time.
I believe there is more to this than we are being told and we can't exclude the fact that it has to do with buhari. This is not about taking sides but examining the facts

What sense is an argument where evidence of project initiation, payment, and execution are before you...but you choose to fight over delivery date...Aren't you supposed to be happy that the contractor delivered before date of forecast?...You're guys are quite pathetic...

Jorussia:
Who b dis one self?Where you for come out?Abeg go wash your teeth before you comment here, your mouth dey smell.

Did you still register yesterday in HDP; Hunger Displaced People's camp Osun/Ibadan chapter

adioolayi:
Are you pained?

temitemi1 should be pained that a kinsman is reasoning like an ediot, sadist and schizophrenic patient...

Why not quit disgracing your brethren here...

HiGod:
It's pretty obvious in your senseless post, laced with Lmao induced message that you are nothing but an idiott whose destiny was equally handled and designed just like the way your failures-accumulated mentor handled Nigeria state before he was unceremoniously sent to oblivion.

If oblivion is being internationally recognized and adored then you're for sure schizophrenic and deranged...onuku

GOATandYAMtheory:
Sure, passingshot. To the best of my knowledge, the refineries could have been fixed during GEJ's regime, but they chose to tell Nigerians a story that will give them enough opportunity to scam us till the end of their tenure.

I could remember vividly when the NNPC gave estimate of how much it will cost them to fix our refineries (in Feb 2015 b4 handing over), when they also gave us the duration of a year b4 it can be operational.

In NNPC's words:
http://www.punchng.com/business/business-economy/nigerian-engineers-to-repair-refineries-for-n99bn-nnpc/

I wonder what happened overnight that they are now saying it will begin to funtion by next month.

Now this is my "church mind"; if President Muhammadu Buhari refuses to jail any1, among those involved in this NNPC scam, the respect I have for him will reduce or even vanish.

Delivery date in contracts are mere forecasts subject to human factor...

If anybody should go to jail for such discrepancy in delivery date, it should be someone who delivers later than than the date stated not earlier than such date...

Fashola even with his $1billion loan on Lagos rail with delivery date of June 2013 is being worshipped by folks like you even as his successor is about taking another loan for same project....it is pathetic to be a hypocrite and bigot...

4bobo:
Argue that with your father at home, loser nonentity...

Do you even have a father....why not ask your mother to submit the identity of all the ediots and touts that mounted her, so that you begin a DNA search to see if any match your diseased DNA....

PassingShot:
Before March 28, 2015 Elections:

6. Feb 2015 - Nigerian Engineers to Repair Refineries for N99bn –NNPC
The Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation on Wednesday said it had engaged the services of in-house engineers to rehabilitate the country’s three ailing refineries at a cost of $550m (N99bn), down from the $1.6bn (N288bn) presented to it by foreign contractors.
The refineries are the Port Harcourt Refining Company, Kaduna Refining and Petrochemical Company Limited and the Warri Refining and Petrochemical Company Limited.

The Group Executive Director, Refining and Petrochemicals, NNPC, Mr. Ian Udoh, stated that the corporation resolved to use indigenous engineers because it could not pay the bills of foreign contractors who were nominated by the original builders of the refineries.
http://www.punchng.com/business/business-economy/nigerian-engineers-to-repair-refineries-for-n99bn-nnpc/


Still in March 2015:

7. March 2015 – NNPC to repair refineries with $550m
The Turn Around Maintenance (TAM) of the nation’s refineries will cost $550million, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) said yesterday. The corporation blamed the TAM’s delay on the refusal of the original builders of the four refineries to handle the maintenance contracts.
There are two refineries in Port Harcourt, one in Kaduna and another in Warri. They are all working below capacity, unable to meet the consumption demands of Nigerians. http://thenationonlineng.net/new/nnpc-to-repair-refineries-with-550m/

8. As recent as March 6, 2015 - Refineries’ll be back on stream 2016 –NNPC
Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, yesterday assured that the nation’s four refineries would be fully back on stream in the first quarter of 2016. The corporation also explained why the refineries have not been working optimally, disclosing that NNPC could not afford to pay the outrageous charges of its builders.

The corporation’s Coordinator, Corporate Planning and Strategy, Dr. Tim Okon, disclosed these while updating members of the Senate Committee on Petroleum (Downstream) on activities of the refineries.
http://nationalmirroronline.net/new/refineriesll-be-back-on-stream-2016-nnpc/
June 18, 2015 - Nigeria’s refineries to resume production next month
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/06/nigerias-refineries-to-resume-production-next-month-official/


Going by the stated sequence of events in our refineries as given by NNPC, is there any link or development in the time past to warrant getting the latest news that our refineries will resume production in July?

The spokesman, Ohi Alegbe, stated that “the operations resume after a successful turn-around-maintenance (overhaul) of their facilities” but they didn’t just want to make noise about it! Who is fooling who?

Let GEJ’s supporters help us answer the following questions?
1. When has TAM of plants become an action conducted in secrecy?
2. When was the TAM awarded and to which company?
3. If local engineers were used, who paid the N99bn that was reported to be needed as recent as last February?

Conclusion
I am of the strong opinion that GEJ was completely fooled not only by Diezani and her cohorts but also by the sycophants he surrounded himself with. The man must surely be biting his fingers wherever he is currently. In not making our refineries work, the oil cabals saw a huge avenue to corruptly enrich themselves and they seized the opportunity through oil subsidies.

It is not unknown what PMB’s stand on fuel subsidy is. He has consistently maintained that the oil subsidy was a fraud and that he would look into why our refineries have not worked. PMB recently rubbished the fuel subsidy scam when he said “I don’t know what fuel subsidy means” - http://dailytrust.com.ng/sunday/index.php/top-stories/20804-i-don-t-know-what-fuel-subsidy-means-buhari.

The president has also been reported to be set to probe NNPC N30trn unaccounted oil revenue under Jonathan - http://www.nationaldailyng.com/news/latest-news/4116-buhari-set-to-probe-nnpc-n30trn-unaccounted-oil-revenue-under-jonathan

The fact of the matter is that, NNPC’s top shots are aware of what PMB knows. They know him to know the workings of NNPC and our refineries having been a petroleum minister and a former Head of State. As such, it is reasonable to expect the corporation (NNPC) to act differently with him than what they did with GEJ.

The famous quote by Abraham Lincoln is very apt here:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”


I therefore challenge any of GEJ's supporters and sympathizers to prove otherwise.

Submissions of a schizophrenic patient...

All you wrote here show actions and payments by Jonathan but withe discrepancy in delivery date; a variable factor subject to human factor....

I challenge you to name or show any action direct or indirect by Buhari that shows he initiated... or paid....or contributed by policy...or anything towards whatever positive news there is to these refineries....you keep showing how deranged you're daily....

PassingShot:
This is part of the mystery!

Your post shows how schizophrenic, deranged and angered you're...why not show us evidence of payment or such as initiated by Buhari rather all you wrote here are evidence of payments and actions by Jonathan but with discrepancy on delivery date....you're an ediot sincerely...

geesampower:
Exactly. All of a sudden it was possible to repair the refineries with JUST 99billion naira while we spent over 4trillion naira subsidizing on imported petroleum products the same refineries cld be producing.

It is really pathetic to be some of you...why not confirm the capacity of the four refineries and daily consumption rate of Nigerians before coming here to show your ignorance...

MichaelSokoto:
Wat did Jona-dull did?

Jonathan initiated the TAM of the refineries...paid for same...and ensured delivery....or did you think dogoyaro initiated that from west Germany

gbaskiboy:
Change we all longed for, after 16 years of set back ruled by clowns


The last clown of mankind has been sent to oblivion

When someone lacks brain, he begets an ediot like you...

So the TAM was initiated, and paid for by dogoyaro

4bobo:
lol. I believe if jona is still our president, that money for turn arround might have been cornered by some people, because they know that he has no balls to question them how they spent it.

And in your deranged skull, the TAM of those refineries was initiated, paid for, and sanctioned by dogoyaro and his nonexistent cabinet and the commissioner...

Most of you nincompoops have such a warped reasoning that suggests Nigeria's liberation is somewhat far...

HiGod:
Shut up fool

What Jonathan!!! Who is Jonathan? The only Jonathan that ever existed in this country has been sent to oblivion and it ll never rear his ugly head again.

Nigeria ll never experience the evil called Ebele again IJN

Do you know what that name represent in Nigeria history? Total failure.

No mother in her right senses wants to name her child after the most cursed president of this country ever.

It takes four weeks to get rid of all the left over curses in Aso Rock before Gen.Buhari could move in, isn't that serious? Yes it's.

May God in His infinity mercy design your destiny the way Ebele Jonathan handle the affairs of this country. Amen. And op you ll equally say Amen.

One doesn't need to look so hard to see how deranged, schizophrenic, myopic, bigoted, venomous, ediotic, slowpoke*c, and sycophantic you're and what a warped mind you have...mpama

Aegon:
And with all the evil in the world i daresay we are doing a pretty good job.

It is our crisis of choice...

efilefun:
Oh you all forgot the state of the economy when your useless hero was leaving? You were all spending the night on long queues without petrol, no light even to watch him handover power and you here spewing thrash abegiii

Sorry for whomever did this to you...can see your plight especially when the topic involves some analytical and sane thought process, of which you have got none...sorry bingo...

sammyj:
.............

This simply justifies the fact that dogoyaro presidency has nothing to do with performance...otherwise what's the possibility that an analogue brain can solve a digital challenge....smart by half sycophants like you

sammyj:
Baba slow and steady wins the race. As long as the right and due process rule of law is followed! !!!

Anything so far it justifies your blind support for dogoyaro...