₦airaland Forum

SarahBabyxx:
I seriously don't get you.....until you accept the fact that you're biased in your analysis this won't go anywhere

I have to say that including ebonyi state was funny...despite being 'debt free' what does the state have to show for the money allocated to them....atleast the states with 'debts' have something to show for it

No one is '' defending the ineptitude of these thieves"...the only thing anyone is pointing out here is your 'bias' and the 'hypocrisy' you're hammering on


I'd also like to see you 'analyse' other states owing aside SW states.....one question why SW??

dearpreye:
Thanks for the message, OP! Your shoulders aren't bearing your head for the fun of it; it's worth the stress.

See my signature! Propaganda and reality are two distinct things. Propaganda may get you a job; reality check mates you.

I will be lying if I tell you I'm happy with what's happening in states where workers are still being owed salaries. Some workers haven't received their pays in over 6 months. It's indeed a terrible position.

The momentum of change preached by the APC during the campaigns is gradually getting dull as reality now stare them in the faces. There's NO quick fix to our problems, and BUBU can't conjure any magics!

It's indeed the time to look within and be sincere with ourselves. While we can control our choices in life, we can't control the consequences of our choices. That's outside our circle of influence.

I've been apolitical in recent days. Just standing by the sidelines and watch events unfold.

Opposition sweet die!

jorlons:
@whynotthetruth, I think he has a point here. Why is this piece x-raying just APC controlled state?? Also what metrics did you use to project a 30 years debt profile for Osun state ??

OrlandoOwoh:
Lier, Governor Rauf Aregbesola (ACN) started ruling Osun State in November 2010. PDP ruled the state from 2003 to 2010.

jorlons:
@whynotthetruth, I think he has a point here. Why is this piece x-raying just APC controlled state?? Also what metrics did you use to project a 30 years debt profile for Osun state ??

huptin:
ur problem has less to doonathan than SE...#fact#

10)Your problem is within...

Abia and Imo do not owe partially, they owe in total, in the south west only Osun is really bad.

You mentioned American businesses in Nigeria, yes they are businesses not the whole american citizenry, how many Americans stay outside American, even the chinese what is the proportion of the chinese outside China to the one in China?

Bros if about 50% of a group has to migrate outside their domain to survive, it can only mean one thing, the region lacks basic means of sustaining its citizenry, it is
As simple as that, even the jews had to move back home when they realised that east or west home is the best.

If there are enough industries and jobs and market opportunties easterners would have gone back since, moving the head offices of their business in the east while maintaining branches in other regions, just like every body world wide does, but my dear there are not enough ooportunities for even the indigenes talk less of asking others to migrate east wards for their daily bread.

The east is in a far more dire situation than any other region, the whole Nigeria knows it, thats why no body takes you seriously. If Nigeria breaks today, the east will have to start from a scratch, from ports to airports, to railways, to good motorable road network, good universities (apart from UNN kindly mention another standard university in the east) industries etc. You really have a lot of catching up to do.

So concentrate on the east and leave the west, we will always sort ourselves out. Thank you.

AhmedMustapha:
Well I don't know if you have any recent information on the economic buoyancy of Nigerian states but as at 2007 the top 10(in terms of GDP) had 4SS states, 2 NW states 3
SW states and 1SE state. Again on the debts some states are sunk in, if you checked that report I quoted it stated that most of the oil-rich states were indebted so the issue is prevalent across the political divide. Osun state YES is at its lowest ebb and I've countlessly denounced the governors incompetence but if you want to go political Osun is actually doing better under the APC.
As for Abia, salaries running into months haven't been paid and the partiality of the government in the equitable distribution of the dividends of democracy confirms its inefficacy

AhmedMustapha:
I think you mean APC SE states
and what do you mean by Osun is owing debts for the next 30 years?

PassingShot:
In as much as I don't want to blame Jonathan, under whose watch the affected states and indeed the FG became insolvent, he contributed in no small measures. That's incontrovertible.

@the topic, we have to always consider inequalities in allocation of states. That Akwa Ibom or Delta state is not crying does not mean their employees are not groaning. In the SW states you mentioned, it's unfortunate that the affected governors failed to save for rainy days as now.

I will support an FG bailout on:
1. Deduct reasonable amount from monthly allocation of states that are eventually bailed out.
2. FG pays directly into accounts of state's employees, their owed salary arrears while deducting on monthly basis from the state allocation.

Tecnonews24:
I may not be talented in writing, but I do know the APC WAS not change Nigeria needed. no matter what you tell and show to an APC followers, they will still not believe, even with glaring evidence to buttress your point. the reason for that is not far fetched. I guess many of them have been brain washed, no matter what u say it won't hold water, that include the party big wigs. I live in rivers state, I was here when Rotimi ameachi reclaimed his mandate through the court with the help of wike. everybody in rivers state including myself love the man because he hit the ground running from the first day and he perform wonderfully well. that was his first tenure. but the Man became something else when he started missing with APC Folks then ACN . No new project Was started After his eventual defection to the APC . even the once he started befor his defection was abandoned. there is more to APC than people know. I just pity the brain washed followers.

patrickmuf:
That you choose two regions and not do a wholesome analysis of the state of affairs of the various States indicates big time bias...Talk about sentiments...

After1one:
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Rubbish from a bigot. You are the one to grow up and stop pouring smelling spit everywhere. Your region is owing same as SW states, your region is not dubai nor eldorado. Abia is in ruins but you have not open a thread to advice them, nothing to write home about Ebonyi but the chief adviser is making noise about SW.

Pls face your region and allow SW people to complain, this thread will be necessary if the people of the SW are trooping to your region to beg which is not the case. Pls advice yourself before advising others.

SarahBabyxx:
Naaah! I'm good hun......I know when and where to point fingers and throw subtle jabs ....you can't take away sentiments from political or ethnic issues
You were soo quick to accuse me of being 'sentimental'....when your comments have sentimental undertones....exactly why I asked you to look in the mirror

After1one:
Southwest advisers. We dont need your advice, your region need more of it. Abia, Imo, Ebonyi, are owing salaries except Anambra but you keep screaming SW. I know this is another SW bashing thread, we will be here to reply in kind.

patrickmuf:
Selectivity on play here, you leave out states like Benue, Plateau and the likes just to justify your attack on the APC... I'd like to also know your take on the FG which also ran into huge debts overtime...
Half truths, bias and hate doesn't cut it for me...

SarahBabyxx:
Look in the mirror bruh....#nuffsaid

AhmedMustapha:
Someone pointed it out to you that 18 states were owing salaries and other arrears and the quoted source included PDP and APC states from the North South East and West but of course the hypocritical you trashed it as one of those incoherent ramblings from the APC fanatics. I have never believed that we have political parties in the country, I call them platforms for the attainment of power so the problem has never been about parties but the system in which the country operates. Before that guy responds to the bolded, you mind telling him what Abians have enjoyed for the 16 years under PDP? Not to worry though, I know your reply-The people from there are so strong they don't need government to survive.
As for your nefarious claims of the debt profiles of states, look into this report
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/fgs-external-debt-states-debt-profile-on-the-ris

SarahBabyxx:
#word

A bottle of orijin for you sir

huptin:
Mind you, I am not saying SE/SS are infallible but based on the propaganda in the system today, why should APC states be dying...it is contradictory and worst heat are my brothers in SW...

In as much as i wanted to agree with you on some valid points you raised, saying that south west states are the worse hit is a big lie.....Abia state is in the east, the state is the first to start owing workers, infact as we speak, the state is owing its workers for over 10 months, Enugu owes workers of its parastatals for 10 months also, imo is owing for 5 months, out of 5 south east states, 3 are owing.
Even Akwa Ibom state, the richest in terms of oil rrvenue is also owing, Rivers state nko? Benue is totally moribund, Bayelsa might be managing to pay its workers because of the small size of its civil service but even the governor admitted that most capital projects have been on hold now for over a year.

You cant compare the staff strength of Anambra's civil service to that of Osun, Osun has a much bigger stafg strenght. Even Soludo criticised the Anambra government for deciding to save money instead of investing the money in projects that will galvanise the state into an economic hub.

It does not make sense saving money when 80% of your indigenes have to migrate to to other places if they hope to make any head way in business.

Yes our governors have been wasteful and stupid, but it is not in any way limited to the south west governors, it is a national thing. And GEJ did not help matters he allowed a culture of waste to thrive without any attempt to check it.

The era of oil is gradually coming to an end, its time to buckle up and face realities, as for the south west.... don't bother about us, if the Abacha and Goodluck era could not bring us down, we shall surely survive.

atlwireles:
Please interpret, broda mi, is where I stopped

Aigbofa:
How many times must we show this on Nairaland?

doublewisdom:
Okada drop me for here.

atlwireles:
I told you this was mission impossible.

Aigbofa:
Hehehehe.......brother's keeper at work.

Please do not disturb.

Aigbofa:
Hehehehe.......brother's keeper at work.

Please do not disturb.

Aigbofa:
Force you to derail what you started on your own? Are you kidding me?
If you want to know what what I'm capable of, you need to do better than this thinly veiled albeit meaningless junk analysis.

Aigbofa:
You probably think you are making a whole lot of sense! You are not, and If folks don't understand your article it is only because it lacks substance.
All economic indices still point to that fact that the SW is far more productive than the SE.

Aigbofa:
You probably think you are making a whole lot of sense! You are not, and If folks don't understand your article it is only because it lacks substance.
All economic indices still point to that fact that the SW is far more productive than the SE.

Aigbofa:
Is Anambra the only state not having problems paying salaries? Are there other states in the south west paying salaries? If so why are you specifically mentioning SW states?
If a loan was taken to build a road or build a school did you factor in the economic benefits of those things to the future of that child from Osun as compared to the one from Anambra?
This is a futile attempt to single out the SW for bashing and you are doing a pretty bad job.

Truckpusher:
Before you blame GEJ. and the PDP ,you'll need to kill Obasanjo who had 8yrs of undisturbed governance and the last time I checked he's now screaming change and even doubles as APC 's navigator.

And before you even go further,let me also remind you that the current economic woes befalling the APC's states has no the same effect on their fellow Southern states.