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omonnakoda:
see you in 2019,this one is over,as in FINISHED, Congrats to Buhari. There is no need breathing life into a dead thread,

It is finished because we have a Jonathan who prefers peace and harmony to power unlike his opponent...

It is a dead thread to you but it contains material for ease of reference in future and for refuting errors and false impressions with mutilation of facts by your type...More people now know who votes along ethnic lines since independence...

Ymodulus:
Thats the problem you qoute a PRO GEJ paper to support your claim. Vanguard to be is not free of what they call sensational Journalism. Same vanguard lied about General Muhammad Buhari saying he will make N1 equal to $1, even when their article disagrees. I Just clearly stated in my previous post that 2011 election was not free. The most free election we have seen to date is the last election.

I just wish 2019 election we can all move towards electronic voting

Nawa for your type...Should I quote Punch or Premium times, or Nations or tvc.

Why not provide an alternative to contradict theirs?...

It is freest because APC won...height of insincerity by you and them...This election is equal to 2011 in all indices... Provide facts to the alternative... it is not bloody simply because a Jonathan wanted peace...

1992 election hasn't been replicated in Nigeria so far...

Facts are sacred bro...I believe in facts than beer parlour gist...confront me with facts not rhetorics...

omonnakoda:
Basically I figure your style is to play provocative Paul directing traffic to a meaningless thread,Even that will run out of gas

Were you forced under gun point to view and comment here

omonnakoda:
Yes Real Madrid bought Ronaldo and won the league the next season. Where was PDP when Tinubu was being " bought" what does that have to do with.That is Politics PDP did not get the right players they bought Okupe,FFK and Abati who are injury prone
Clearly we interpret the facts differently anyway what to do the election is over now? This is the kind of attitude that led Ojukwu to war.Refusing to accept reality

hehehehe...boy, I am not sure you understand what facts are...you keep middling up issues and contradicting yourself...Also, learn to differentiate between employees of government and career politicians; it will make you appear more informed next time...hehehehe

omololu2020:
it is u south south and south east dat are cryin about yorubas not votin for gej.if u know ur history well,u will know awolowo was not intrested in one Nigeria,it was azikwe dat forced awolowo n bello into dis...show me or name a country in d world wia a leader of an ethnic group or a region announce dat he doesnt want is pple to b part of a federation again,and dey are allowed to leave?

What are you saying because I don't seem to get your point...it is contradictory...

Do you know when the amalgamation of northern and southern protectorates took place?...

Do you know what Awolowo did when the eastern part wanted to secede?.

Do you know about the issue of self-determination as contained in UN to which Nigeria is a signatory?...

Ymodulus:
At times the international observers view does not reflect the whole view. I will get back to you on this.

Wow...because they were bribed or they are clueless or what...hehehehe...bro, you are a comedian...But you accept their views now because it favoured you but when it doesn't then you won't...Nawa for hypocrisy ooo...

BTW I want to see your those your pix where you wanna dispute underage voting in the north...

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/underage-voters-accredited-in-taraba/

docsholz:
Why won't you people leave Yorubas alone, if you're tired of sharing d country with them, kindly secede. Fucking Hypocrites

Hypocrisy is when you do something and see it as no crime only to scream to high heavens when others appear to go that line even though they never did...

We have to correct misinformation online and offline because many people are accusing the down south as people who vote along ethnic lines while they vote based on performance and conviction which is a big lie...

Yoruba from every available data vote ONLY their own...

While they run back to accuse others of being bigots...so who is the hypocrite here

BTW...people wanted to secede but people refused and killed because they didn't want people to go...you know the peoples nah...hehehehehe

omonnakoda:
Yes Real Madrid bought Ronaldo and won the league the next season. Where was PDP when Tinubu was being " bought" what does that have to do with.That is Politics PDP did not get the right players they bought Okupe,FFK and Abati who are injury prone
Clearly we interpret the facts differently anyway what to do the election is over now? This is the kind of attitude that led Ojukwu to war.Refusing to accept reality

hehehehe...boy, I am not sure you understand what facts are...you keep middling up issues and contradicting yourself...Also, learn to differentiate between employees of government and career politicians; it will make you appear more informed next time...hehehehe

omonnakoda:
I have better things to do that enmesh myself in a deranged cycle to nowhere. What is our purpose here. To reverse the election?

No, to present facts as they are...and show who really are the bigots...and finally, seek a way to stop it...

omonnakoda:
And your point is ?

hehehehehehe...when someone is lying against established truths; he grapples with straws and tend to forget some of his initial lies...that's what is happening to you bro...

let's try and eschew this ethnicity and nepotism wahala...it will do us no good...

omonnakoda:
It is like religion you choose your gods I choose mine . The anger I have is when you refuse to accept my choice or you criticize it. To yo your words are logical to me they are .........That is when the only thing left to do is to vote we have voted we have a result can we have some peace already?
I will not accept your gods and you will not accept mine . I am not a muslim but I give you the

Quran
Surah Al-Kafiroon

I worship not that which ye worship; (2) Nor worship ye that which I worship. (3) And I shall not worship that which ye worship. (4) Nor will ye worship that which I worship. (5) Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. (6)

Let us move on, APC was in opposition let PDP go and restrategize

Being in opposition isn't my problem at all...

But effort is geared towards clearing some misinformation here...because so many people especially your brothers(Yoruba) accuse south south and south east of voting along ethnic lines while themselves voted out of patriotism...which is a big lie and misrepresenting facts and figures...

Because it is simply the Yoruba who voted along ethnic line since independence... except when they have no candidate from their side....

omonnakoda:
Clearly we interpret the facts differently anyway what to do the election is over now?

Bro, there are no two sides to truth...Truth can only be one at a time...facts are sacred...

I challenge you to provide contrary information to these ones...thanks

omonnakoda:
Where did I change to Non-performance?Where did I say PDP has No structure in the SW please stop telling stupid lies or trying to put words in my mouth , I know exactly what I wrote
If you have a problem comprehending English how is that my problem. The point is that no one owes anyone any explanation for how they vote. So give it a rest. You can interpret it anyhow you like I really do not give a shitt
2019 is not far away.

Who wrote these things below plz...




omonnakoda :
What a stuupid and nonsensical write up. Somebody had to lose.If the other guy lost then things would be fine??
Did GEJ give the SW any reason to vote for him? Did he build PDP structures in the SW after PDP lost all states in 2011?
Did he rehabilitate key PDP actors? Gbenga Daniel,Iyabo Obasanjo,Alao Akala,Onii?
Did he arrest Dimeji Bankole and arraign Tinubu
Did he fight OBJ
Did he fight Oyinlola
What did he do when Stella Oduah was firing Yorubas
The truth is Yorubas were treated like learners under his government .The present arrangement seems better for Yorubas and they are right to strive to improve their
fortunes. They voted for him in 2011 and were disappointed. I do not understand al this rubbish.People are so selfish and REFUSE to see others perspectives




omonnakoda :
Spurious falsehood . It was the same candidates in 2011 and 2015 Buhari's vice on each occasion was a Yoruba preacher. Yoruba voted differently this time.Because the
person they voted for last time disappointed but still they voted for him giving 25% in every SW state

omonnakoda:
Stop the Lies You say they vote PDP out because of their son was it not the Same Buhari and Jonathan in 2011. Did Buhari not present a Yoruba VICE in 2011 . Give it a rest please

Buhari had Tunde Bakare but he was up against Tinubu of ACN whose alliance with buhari failed especially when Bakare refused to sign for his resignation if they win...coupled with Jonathan factor...same way northern vote was divided between shekarau, ribadu, buhari and sambo...

These are facts bro...not any rocket science...It is there for everyone to see...

Mind you; I am pointing these out because I want Nigeria to outgrow it...not because I hate them...kindly stop living in denial and accept the truth...I also showed you how your voting pattern has been since independence to support my claim...why not provide another evidence to contradict me if I am lying bro

Ymodulus, thanks for your opinion but would you mind taking time to read my replies to other posters above and also the analysis of voting pattern in the southwest which shows them as voting only their own since independence...I don't want to be repeating myself...

if you have alternative information to contradict that they haven't been voting only their own, kindly present it here...

Both international and local observers adjudged 2011 election as free and fair...why do you have contrary opinion?... do I take your view over that of these professionals??... And this goes to confirm my frustration with APC who believes that election is free and fair alongside reflection of masses opinion ONLY when they APC win...otherwise it has been rigged...State any single election they lost which they accepted defeat and accepted the people's wish....

francizy:
When we will know how biased people are is, if Buhari fails to deliver up to what GEJ delivered and same people votes him into power.

I won't actually point an accusing finger at the Yorubas in this election because their votes were divided. It doesn't change the fact that they are tribal biased tho, just like the Igbos are tribal biased too. But when you combine tribal bias with religious bias just like that of Northern Hausa/Fulani, you get it to the extreme.

They have always voted only their own since independence...see my reply above and the link attached...

It is not same with the Igbo because they voted against Ojukwu for Obj PDP and also against Ume-Ezoke who was running mate to buhari for PDP too..history also showed them voting different candidates outside their region...PDP stronghold is in southeast and south south...other parties are struggling including APGA...Hence, it is different when PDP also has its foothold in your place and you vote them out because of your son...

Outside north, southwest is next in terms of regions who benefitted from Jonathan government developmental activities...

omonnakoda:
Spurious falsehood . It was the same candidates in 2011 and 2015 Buhari's vice on each occasion was a Yoruba preacher. Yoruba voted differently this time.Because the person they voted for last time disappointed but still they voted for him giving 25% in every SW state

Bro, if you don't have evidence...kindly keep mute than talking from two sides of your mouth...At first, you said PDP has no structure in south west and you now change to non-performance....

Truth is outside northern part; the next region that benefitted from Jonathan government is the southwest...facts are sacred bro...

omonnakoda:
What a stuupid and nonsensical write up. Somebody had to lose.If the other guy lost then things would be fine??
Did GEJ give the SW any reason to vote for him? Did he build PDP structures in the SW after PDP lost all states in 2011?
Did he rehabilitate key PDP actors? Gbenga Daniel,Iyabo Obasanjo,Alao Akala,Onii?
Did he arrest Dimeji Bankole and arraign Tinubu
Did he fight OBJ
Did he fight Oyinlola
What did he do when Stella Oduah was firing Yorubas
The truth is Yorubas were treated like learners under his government .The present arrangement seems better for Yorubas and they are right to strive to improve their fortunes. They voted for him in 2011 and were disappointed. I do not understand al this rubbish.People are so selfish and REFUSE to see others perspectives

Bro, there's so much anger in your write up but unfortunately that's where the problem lies...Instead of reading this article and understanding it; you choose to dismiss it because it hurts your tribe(mind you; this is same problem this article is pointing out)...Just like I stated above Yoruba vote only their own in elections...evidence abound on this bro...

Stella sacked people; if what she did was wrong...I expect those people to have approached the national assembly for peaceful resolution but if this fails; we have our court... but if the sack was right; then they have no option...So which of these options did they take before we read ethnic meaning into it

If PDP had no structure in south west; how did they win in ekiti elections?...performed well in osun election... had ondo under them...

All the names you mentioned from Ogun state are part of PDP house except for Obj who wanted to rule from otta farm...Jonathan would have less a man to allow that...otherwise how else did he fight Obj and it was Obj who was acting paranoid in all these...

Also Akala left after he lost primaries but his new party was still supporting Jonathan...

But in all, since independence Yoruba according to statistics and all available facts cum data vote only their own...if you have any evidence to contradict this truth; kindly present it here...thanks

francizy:
Men, I don't really know oh.. The country is messed up and it seems to be getting worse. All the same, we shouldn't always come on social media and condemn people.

Tired of all these bullshit tho

Yes... it is really painful but unfortunately unless it is addressed; it won't stop. We can't keep living in denial. And my article was forced by someone who mentioned me in his write up as I stated above...Hence, I decided to correct his article through this little write up...

dustmalik:
Talk about being tribalistic. How many votes did Buhari get from the SS/SE combined, as compared to the votes Jonathan got from the NE alone? Go and collate it, then come back here and tell me where tribalism really lies. Nonsense.

Fine...These places you mentioned are strongholds of PDP since 1999 and has almost being impossible for APC to penetrate...hence, it is expected that no matter who the aspirant is; once it is PDP then possibility of winning is high...Remember, these Igbos voted against no less a person than Ojukwu himself in favour of Obj PDP and also against their son; Ume-Ezeoke when he was buhari running mate...

This is against what's obtained in south west Nigeria as evidenced in the article cited...History and facts don't lie bro...

Also read my replies to others above...

http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and-
why-pdp-will-lose

ChristyG:
funny when ibos accuse yorubas of tribalism when they are the kings and queens of tribalism.when yoruba voted for Jonathan in 2011 ignoring tunde bakare(no noise)then they decided to vote him out of incompétence(ibos are barking tribalism)..it Is like a dark kettle calling pot black
the SW and the NC had the most unbiased votes compared to ss and se.apc even lost in osinbanjo ijebu local govt,that did not happen with Jonathan or sambo

Ymodulus... and others; Below is a cut from article trying to analyze voting pattern of Yoruba since independence...

ChristyG, you need to understand the wrote up in its entirety before criticizing...can you prove the attached file below wrong...

The South-West zone has 14,296,163 registered voters, which represents 19.44% of the total number of voters nationwide. In terms of national electoral strength, the
zone is number 2. Taking into account the electoral behaviour of the South-West since independence, the zone has proven itself, without exception, of incapable of
voting anyone other than its own. In the 1st Republic, it voted mainly Action Group in favour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo with about 69% voters’ turnout. In the 2nd Republic, it voted 78.75% of its total votes cast for UPN in favour of Chief Awolowo, with 70% voters’ turnout. In the June 12, 1993 presidential election, the pattern was repeated more or less the same, except that the total percentage of SDP’s votes in favour of Chief MKO Abiola rose up to 84.5% in the zone. In the 1999 presidential election, mainly because the only two candidates for the presidency were both from the South-West, the zone’s
voters’ turnout was abysmally low (48.09%) with about 68% of the votes cast to APP in favour of Chief Olu Falaye. 2003 also recorded poor voters’ turnout with 71% of
votes cast for Obasanjo’s PDP. In 2011, with no Southwestern candidate fielded by any of the major parties, the South-West voted PDP when a functional alliance with the CPC failed to field in Sen. Tinubu or his nominee. Besides, with the vicious experience of AD in 2003 when the PDP Federal Government uprooted its governments in five states of the zone, the South-West cannot now afford to risk having an opposition PDP
government at the federal level again; certainly not after the hard pains and toils of forming the APC. It is therefore existential for the South-West to vote APC at the
presidential election.

http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and-
why-pdp-will-lose

Ymodulus:
That's where you get it wring am not Yoruba neither am I in any way associated with the Yorubas.

Sorry, I pushed you over to another tribe but still it is within Nigeria...so no harm...

Ymodulus, I saw you bashing another ethnic group on a particular thread...I believe you're Yoruba. what have you to say about this write up alongside your people's penchant for voting only their own since independence
Or do you think it is healthy for our existence as a country?...Also, francizy you were preaching against ethnicity and nepotism...But it was the key factor in this election... what's the way out?...

TechRev:
Lies and Lies. Lies rule this very place, it stinks with lies. It was Luggard that created Nigeria not God!! See the lies again?? The Devil shivers at the lies, injustice, killing and worship of evil emanating from this ZOO.
A zoological republic. Filled with monkeys and baboons and dogs. It should be destroyed.

Were you created by Lord Lugard?
Did you choose the name of your town or place of birth?
Were you created with your consent?

Whatever happens; we all believe in the existence of a supreme power that causes things to be and take shape...The "how" isn't your bid or take but yours lies in acting within the confines and rules of that being/power for your continual existence...Lord Lugard was only an instrument used towards an end which is Nigeria... thanks...BTW we have humans here too as well as other mammals (animals) and creatures unless you seem not to notice the difference between these creatures...Or are you insinuating you are either of dog,baboon or monkey

dearpreye:
No wahala. Apology carried in the spirit of love and brotherhood.

thanks boss

dearpreye:
U don forget say na the same team we belong?

We are brethren!

hehehehehehe...sure I know and remember... but I must always apologise when I mess up...thanks boss

TechRev:
The Zooological republic of Nigeria where injustice, lies, deceits and stealing are worshiped and adored. It is without question the Devil's kingdom on earth and should be destroyed. It is a ZOO. Habited by baboons and monkeys and dogs.
Infact its an honor to call it a zoo!!!

Though deceit, injustice, lies and other vices hold sway in Nigeria but yet still, it is not the devils republic... God still created her and her people...she can still be redeemed through the rightful measures...hence not due for destruction yet...I am not sure that God has finished with us here...let's do the right thing by accepting there's a problem and sincerely solving the problem... thanks

dearpreye:
Thanks my guy! I'm a blue blooded Ijaw guy, with a truck load of healthy self esteem. My article wasn't designed to curry favor from anyone nor to massage the ego of some people; I simply wrote what I've observed over 20 years.

Fine...I am sorry if I misunderstood you and read negative meaning into your intentions...but be sure that reality shows that Yoruba vote only their own since independence... I gave you some evidence...sorry for the wrong interpretation of an innocent post by you...

dearpreye:
Hmmm. I'm more interested in the 8th point in your article.
If my article prompted you into writing this piece, then it achieved something worth the while.
All the same, good job.
Let others contribute.

Unfortunately, Buhari and his party are against the confab which might have engendered restructuring of the country...even though they accepted to take a look at it during their campaigns but I see it as mere campaign gimmick...

BTW...thanks for forcing me into reflecting about the entire process but we also owe this country a duty of informed decisions and write ups...because your thread might have directly or indirectly encouraged folks to further joy in the folly of ethnicity against nationality because they feel our cognitive ability is impaired...

Beamborla:
Yes, your Highness

thanks my darling queen...Go and express your opinion too on this my meditation too... https://www.nairaland.com/2234892/nigeria-where-all-animals-never

Beamborla:

I would just stick to your signature!

It is good you do but let's not thwart history and mutilate the truth...thanks

At a time in history, we need to open up some wounds and emphasize some bitter truths. The most important election which is the centre has ended and Nigeria seem to be readying for another phase in her democratic history. It becomes pertinent that I share some of my views about this election.

1)This election brought to fore that one Nigeria seem to be only in the dictionary of certain section of Nigeria. Hence, election results is only adjudged the will of the masses when a section has won. Otherwise, it is termed diversion or usurpation of voters will. Check reactions of candidates to election results since this democratic dispensation. This hypocrisy is most times promoted by political parties and ethnic champions. See reactions to result of elections especially 2011 election results.

2)This election was won basically by ethnicity and tribalism and not by performance and any understanding of the system, empirical analysis of situations on ground so as to come up with veritable options and solutions.

3)It also shows that the major ethnic groups with seemingly higher voting population will continue to intimidate the minorities notwithstanding the destruction and devastation done by them(major ethnicities) on this country since independence. Minorities MUST accept whatever is thrown at them. Ruining of the economy is pardonable once the offender is from those major ethnic groups.

4)Rigging and diversion of masses will is permissible and not punishable only if it is conducted by these groups. Otherwise, how do you explain wanton rigging and under age voting in the north which has been swept under the carpet but emphasis is shifted to southeast and south south votes.

5)History has always repeated itself because we live in denial and tend to perpetuate falsehood or even push to rewrite history/truth ourselves. Nigeria won't grow not because she's cursed rather she joys in turning up side down known and established truths.

6)Most ethnic groups especially Southwesterners(Yoruba) since independence vote only their own in elections unless none of their own is contesting the said election. If this attitude isn't changed then we have to keep dreaming about a prosperous Nigeria for times unending.

7)Unless all ethnic groups are giving equal sense of belonging in Nigeria, then peace and development will always elude this country.

Nigeria's problem lies in her structure than in her leaders. Because the current structure encourages laziness, parasitic living, and lack of initiative cum innovative ideas by leadership and people.

9)Nigeria can be great but only when we accept these bitter truths and address them comprehensively. Confab tried in this aspect but with Jonathan's loss, I don't see Buhari making any adjustment in the system since his party never even supported the initiative in its entirety.

10)Nigeria is a sick elephant. A weakened lion and diseased bird. Administer the relevant medication through restructuring of the system especially decentralization of governance and see her stand, roar and fly high up above nations, countries and kingdoms.



Source; my meditation hour product as triggered by dearpreye thread on aftermath of election and the Yoruba pattern of voting...thanks and God bless us all as we seek to do what's right...