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gists:
I have said it before and I will repeat it again. Our problem is not gej. Our problem did not start with gej. He is just a crazy a$$hole compounding our problems.

I love your seeming unbiased post but you are still an a$$hole for not having respect for your leaders...
Now, can you without prejudice again study and analyse the religious card, security challenge and ill-equipped army armoury that's facing us...
How did the religious card issue come on high
Did GEJ advise christians to vote only christains NO
Did BUhari advise moslems to vote only moslems YES
Did GEJ encourage murder of Moslems NO
Did BUhari encourage murder of christians YES!!! when he encouraged sharia system in Nigeria and threatened for make Nigeria ungovernable... anarchists under that umbrella unleashed mayhem on innocent Nigerians...(its an open secret that GEJ cannot directly move against GMB today no matter his crime...why the opposition will cry witch hunting and northerners will cry victimization). Why didn't emir sanusi speak out the way he is doing now when boko haram was mainly
concentrating on killing christians remember the time of St. Theresa madala etc...it is now affecting all...
On security; why would a state governor not forge a common front with FG but for the sake of politics leave his state(he is chief security officer notwithstanding emergency rule...all state fund go to him as well as day to day state activities) and rush to London to castigate FG and shift blames...It is this distrust that complicated the tragedy of chibok...
Quote me anywhere; boko haram no matter what the army & FG do today can NEVER end till the northerners say; "enough is enough". Boko haram is still standing and gaining strength today simply because of LOCAL SUPPORT, LOCAL SYMPATHY & LOCAL INTELLIGENCE...Mind you; The same people who say that you are decimating the north by fighting and killing boko haram members; are same people crying wolf that you are allowing boko haram to kill them...how do you reconcile these?
Buying security equipment isn't like buying cheese balls or buying fish at oyingbo market...lots of protocols and processes(not an excuse). But remember, which leader gradually depleted and disarmed our army and armoury. Our armoury is down to nothing for years running... Can you re-equip them overnight?? NO...Are their sabotage Yes...so many players with so many hidden and ulterior motives on the international scene...
Are there room for improvements Yes...
Are we on the right track Yes...
Are their quick fixes to these challenges NO...
If anyone or BUHARI says he can stop them overnight.There are two possibilities in that assertion.(1)It is either he is the problem hence he will change his ways or (2) He has, breeds and knows the problem, hence can always call them in at his own time...
Which one is Buhari if he can fix all these challenges overnight?

gists:
Bro sorry to bust your bubbles. But I am extremely disappointed that you suggest countries like Botswana, Niger, Benin, Mali etc have the same amount of resources as Nigeria. While I agree that population is a challenge, please don't use that as excuse for our backwardness. India that you mentioned just launched their heaviest rocket into space! We got independence in the same year from the same colonial master.
We have FAAARRRR more resources and income (your same 5k to two families does not apply at all) than those "smaller countries".

Fine bro...don't grapple with straws joor...give 2k to the smaller family and 5k to bigger family...does it make sense to you now which family do you think will come out stronger in the long run....
Check world's index on poverty in India, China and Nigeria as against those with less population density and landmass...
I am not making an excuse for several years of decadence in our leadership... but under GEJ are we moving on or making head way? Of course yes.....
Is buhari having a magic wand for automatic reversal of all these years of decadence which he contributed to in the 80's? Absolutely NOOOOOOOOO....
Buhari is no messiah to do quick fix to our challenge...
Note that Nigeria's challenge has no quick fix...it must involve a meticulous and consistent policy formulation and constructive action...

chemali:
I won't dignify you with a response anymore. When comparisons are made, it's not done in absolute terms. Use your brains next time.

I hope you haven't lost appetite for dinner...Lolz...
Kindly explain the basis under which you will leave Nigeria for those other countries grouped with nigeria as according to you the report is an evidence that the transformation agenda isn't working or practicable or isn't reflecting in the lives of citizens??
Even without any statistical data, I already know that the economic situation of both my extended and nuclear family keeps improving yearly notwithstanding we have no politicians in the family##majorly technocrats and business men and women##...
We are transforming gradually bro...lolz

chemali:
That's a brazen lie. PTF was known for its transparency. Tell us about Sure-P and how they scam jobless graduates? Tell us more about the oil subsidy and kerosene subsidy scam. Tell us more about stella Oduah and Diezani?

I have an issue with you...I ask one question based on the topic of this thread...instead of providing answer, you jump board into another unrelated issue...Is Jonathan same as Buhari Is buhari same as odua, diezani etc or you wanna derail? is it buhari now against ministers?
Back to topic;
Tell me how and why buhari's one million naira with no other means of income never finishes...and he keeps contesting for presidency every quarter?...
From where will you get funds for his 2014/2015 campaigns? is it still the one million or will governors use another state fund to campaign for St. Buhari...who wants to rid you of corruption but takes other people's money to campaign? is it that the end must justify the means Willy nilly....??

lacasa:
That's the problem wt the average minded nigerian like yourself.

You askedd and it was given, but now, it is utopian, it is not feasible, it is not transformational.

It is evidently clear u r not intersted in wat APC and buhari are willing to offer, u r only interested in defending an undefendable and dying transformation agenda with no stock.


Even in the eyes of God there are those beyond redemption and you are chief amongst them in Nigeria.

So,. #GMB15

Either embrace the change or get out of the way Shikenan!

An advice bro...##Donot take the name of the Lord your God in vain## Be careful to avoid blasphemy...
I asked for a copy of; "BUHARI'S ECONOMIC BLUEPRINT AND MAGIC WAND" for the Nigeria he dreams to rule and not for APC's academic compilation of utopian and unfeasible theories...Note the difference and comply accordingly...As Buhari dreams to rule nigeria, hasn't he compiled his action plans or guiding document based on verifiable data on our current state and empirical plans on how to lead us to promised land?where is such document? or is he coming to do trial and error??... I am waiting plzzzzzzzz....get me such document.....do you still remember Oby Ezekwesili's comment on that unrealistic document and its carriers during APC inauguration?

chemali:
What do you say about the report released last week despite the "transformation"

Now bro, common sense a times isn't common...no offence plzz....Now, take note of the population of those countries mentioned as against that of Nigeria...weigh it against our resources via per capita income.....
Let me draw an analogy to help you here...if I give 5k as business capital to your family of 50 men to share and work with...and same 5k to another family of 10 men to use for same purpose within same time frame ceteris paribus...who will have more disposal income in the short run among them? But in the long run which family do you think will come out better, stronger, fulfilled and formidable Have you wondered why they still group China and India in world's countries with high rate of poverty?? Population bro....do not wish yourself evil to win election(to have campaign points)...do not be a pessimist or harbinger of bad news##word##

chemali:
Oh, that's why his attorney general signed the Malabu oil deal because he was busy fixing agriculture?

Malabu oil deal we will get there...sector by sector...Remember, Buhari was in charge of PTF and under him his cronies & staff were looting us dry maybe on his behalf...Have you wondered how a man who said he has only 1million in his account with no known means of income has been perennially contesting presidential election every quarter...who is funding him or how does that magical 1million naira replenish itself without end...is buhari the new biblical zarephat woman...can holy buhari jail jagaban or almakura or wamakko or amechi for corruption offences

chemali:
I'm still waiting for your response.

Has Jonathan told us his own before you start to ask for that for Buhari who just ascertained he will be contesting last week.

Wow...are you the only one in "Israel" who doesn't know what is happening GEJ has his "transformation agenda" which has been his template for guided integrated development strategy. It's that same "TRANSFORMATION AGENDA" that is manifesting in the new "industrial revolution master plan"...in the new automotive policy which has seen auto giants scrambling to set up new plants here(have you heard about even our own innoson)... agricultural transformation which saw our food import cost drastically run down from 1trillion to around 634billlion and is still going down...ask flour mills, dangote,etc who are setting up farms what is driving them ....have you seen our transport sector master plan and the accompanying revolution Even international agencies like KPMG acknowledged it yet you and Buhari are yet to wake up to reality.... Do you still want me to continue?? show me buhari's economic blueprint and magic wand....am waiting

chemali:
You can read it here: http://www.thecable.ng/many-lies-adesina-agric-minister

The only person incapable of handling corruption is Jonathan and he has clearly displayed this.

And I have opened another thread which I posted the link above. Without doubt, you won't meet me there. This is the link again: https://www.nairaland.com/2053988/great-nigerian-robbery-2011-2014

Bro, I am not interested in lies and propaganda. By posting that link, you saying that PDP is not bad after all because the years in review there are all under PDP rule But by the way; Which Bello are you showing me his write up here? Bello who got the uncommon opportunity of being agric minister for almost 7years with no tangible achievement which statistics is he showing a magical 6.5% parallel growth in all parts
Under who did we have 14billion fertilizer scam under who did we see portfolio farmers and abuja farmers?
I challenge you to take a trip to the local farmers for a first hand information not lies and propaganda in the media...
There's a thread on that already in Nairaland...go feed your eyes and calm flaired nerves...
About your thread, I stated that GEJ is taking it one at a time...not being jack of all trades master of none...we take it sector by sector....since agricultural sector is settled; guess our next port of call...its all continuity bro

lacasa:
The APC MANIFESTO
http://apc.com.ng/index.php/about-apc/apc-manifesto#sthash.DBypKc3I.gbpl


Read and be humbled

GMB15

I keep saying it that ignorance is tooooooo bad. Where is Buhari's manifesto for his 2015 presidential election? Where is his economic blueprint and magic wand Let him empirically tell us exactly where we are now using verifiable data and where he is taking us to if elected and how GEJ transformation agenda is a micro extract of PDP manifesto. Where is that of Buhari We need to weigh it using standard gauge. By the way, this your utopian APC manifesto is simply unrealistic. I don't have time to xray it here and now. It is full of utopian and unrealistic academic write up. Why has they not achieved those their listed agenda(mission) in the APC states??.?. Or is it only feasible to them at federal level? They wanted devolution of power what was their stand on it at the national confab which they grudgingly attended without any clear cut agenda??

chemali:
The question of fertilizers has been addressed by a former minister of agriculture which I won't go through pains to repeat. There is progress . However, I have listed at least 5 corrupt cases in that thread, why didn't he respond. You think 2015 is about Buhari? It isn't. It's about Jonathan and how he is ruining our lives while enriching his cronies.

Which former minister? kindly clarify This thread is about Buhari's incapacitated nature to fight his one point agenda manifesto which is corruption... Open another thread for GEJ...let's meet there...thank you

lacasa:
It will be reality with all hands on deck.


Support, agitate and mobilise for that dream

If We can do it, Buhari will make it.


#GMB15 Project

Is good that you encouraged him to dream on...Also go back and advise him to develop the spirit of sportsmanship... So that when you lose at the poll which is sure to come...You all will accept it with cheers...no fighting## no slaughtering of innocents### no soaking of baboon and dogs in blood### no ungovernable nigeria or parallel government ### thank you as you go!!!

kestolove95:
he said nd I quote"we will draw line and strt afresh,am not cumin to hunt anybody but while am in office corruptn will not b tolratd"..#gmb/osinbajo my president elect.

Bro, pick up his inaugural speech as military head of state and read too...what do you expect him to say before What did he do after all those sermons as head of state selective justice... selective prosecution...parochial governance... intimidation of press...murder of innocents...Imagine being sentenced to death on a law that NEVER existed by then? If those three youths who Buhari sanctioned their death on something that was not existing were your brothers; will you be here spewing all these Has he apologized to families of those youth corpers who were brutally slain in 2011 or is it not necessary in your thinking?

chemali:
Why don't you write on why your president is not fighting corruption?

There is a list here you can start with: https://www.nairaland.com/2053988/great-nigerian-robbery-2011-2014

Seriously I wanted to ignore you because of your usage of the word; "your president". Are you not Nigerian?? I am Nigerian and I am proud he is my president. But since, I am interested in your soul, let me honour you with a little answer.
The thread is about Buhari, who you guys is repackaging as incorruptible and that he has a magic wand to solve all Nigerian problems though you and him all refuse to tell us what this magic wand is
At least to substantiate that GEJ is doing something about eliminating corruption... Why not take a trip to see local farmers and ask them about e-wallet and fertilizer distribution system. I believe you were aware of the extent of scam and rot in this sector before now
GEJ is being realistic and taking it one at a time...I don't believe in putting all fingers in the mouth at once...take it sector by sector and get it right once...that's why we need CONTINUITY!!!

berem:
whether PHCN still exists or not,the Power sector donating 500million naira of tax payers money to sponsor a clueless man is immoral. You have no proof Buhari is being sponsored. If you can't prove it, you STFU!

Lolz...ignorance kills faster than AIDS. Power sector owned by private individuals now is your tax payers money how since when Maybe tomorrow, you instruct innoson who also donated some vehicles for GEJ campaign that it is your vehicle and tax money Why not arrest dangote and ask him to give you back your tax payers money? hope you go after ayeni too Where will Buhari get money to transverse the length and breadth of Nigeria campaigning since he has but one million naira?

Adminisher:
You people are very annoying. New Ideas. What new ideas has Jonathan espoused?. You people are making him sound like some intellectual even when the guy is modest enough to have admitted that he lacks this very quality.
Buhari and Idiagbon did some very innovative things to the Nigerian economy at a time we were almost wrecked by international conspiracies.

You are being very ignorant when you say Buhari is promising 1984 solutions. Please read the 2015 budget document. Nigeria has come full circle to 1984 - Import substitution, exchange control, banning of imports, reduction in govt expenditure, taxation of luxury goods that is what the PDP gov t has come back to. Please read wide and pray for understanding. The people who are running America are not the Obama's, Obama is a symbol of power. The true power holders are in Federal Reserve Bank, top investment banks and top socio economic research institutes and the average age is 70. It is very dangerous to say the old and genuine is worse to the young and fake.

Issues about Buhari's economic policies of 1984 has been handled in another thread where datolee exposed the lies, inadequacies and untruths about that. Why not ask barcanista his experience in that thread. So I wouldn't go back to argue on that.
Wow, who said those indices are traceable to buhari? did he invent those ideas? was he the one that told GEJ to implement those ideas If his economic blueprint as you said has been exhausted by GEj team, it then means he has NOTHING again to offer?? His grandsons need him more...Since, you brought chronological age into this, Which developed or progressive country in the world today has a leader above 60/65

berem:
what a hypocrite!
You have no proof Buhari is being sponsored by state governors. Forget all the lies being told by your saiTANic agents that Amaechi is sponsoring Buhari. You do not see anything wrong with the 27billion naira donation for Jonathan's re-election? Isn't that corruption at its finest? Even PHCN donated 500milliion naira of our electricity bills to Jonathan. What do you say about that?

Bro, I will appreciate that we use our heads(brains cum logic) here not our hearts(emotions). Plz don't use insulting words. Now, is PHCN still existing in Nigeria Don't show yourself as an ignoramus. I am disappointed by the ignorance of most of us. Can you kindly tell me how Buhari's campaign will be funded and by who please Remember, Buhari has already said he has at least a million in his account, which you know isn't enough to campaign even in a single state. So who and how will he make up the deficits?

xpac01:
I dream of waking up one morning only to hear that Buhari is been sworn in as the presido of naija.

Since its a dream... it is allowed...keep dreaming and when you wake up ...kindly drop any form of prejudice and analyse the situation without sentiments...

olu77:
Hmmm...you have some points. Honestly I am voting for Buhari in the coming election because there is no any other viable alternative not because I believe in any old politician's sainthood. We need change and he seems to be the only one allowed for now. Personally, I can't endure another 4 years of this regime that keep promising without actions.

Sincerely, what do you need from this regime that they aren't addressing presently? What change does Buhari represent Change to parochialism Has he acquired any new ideas or is he planning to use 1984 solutions on a 2014 challenges That's disaster for sure...What's his roadmap to a better Nigeria Let him present it for all to see if he had any, which I doubt. I will provide you security, employment, food etc HOW How will he do it

lacasa:
All ds permutation is nt wat people yearn for.


What u should be concerned wt is, is GMB better suited to lead Nigeria for the next 4years in comparison to how it has been run for the past 6years by GEJ?



Answer is: Perfect Yes!.


So, vote GMB for Better Nigeria 2015

Truth be told, you have no well founded evidence to support this claim of yours other than sentiments and your emotional attachment to GMB...Yes, because since the advent of this GMB presidential dream, he has NEVER for once declared his plans(constructive, verifiable and empirical) plans on how he hopes to do it better than GEJ...His campaign manifesto so far is based simply on insulting GEJ and stocking the embers of sentiments of his lowly life...Remember, his declaration where he quoted false figures and subsequent PDP redress and challenge to him... So how do you know he has better plans than GEJ Or are you a mind reader?

The APC presidential candidate; Alhaji Muhammad Buhari, to me would have been appreciated more by my kind, if he remained an elder statesman, and kingmaker than positioning himself in the front burner of politics.
He may end up according to my calculations ruining the integrity and respect he enjoys from some Nigerians hitherto now. His supporters believe that he is the messiah to rescue Nigeria. But in truth, history shows that he won't dare confront the menace of corruption. Why

1) Politics all over the world is undertaken with money; which Buhari is telling us that he doesn't have. This implicitly means he will depend on others(APC governors & stakeholders) to sponsor and bankroll his campaign. This is corruption already. How? The cash these governors will use to sponsor him are state funds and not Buhari's fund or the governor's personal fund. Isn't it corruption already? How will he fight them later??.

2) For Buhari to have before now, publicly exonerated the Abacha's of corruption means he is going to repeat the event of first time in office where he practiced selective prosecution. How Remember, after his coup d'etat, he kept Shagari under house arrest and jailed his deputy; Ekwueme. Why Is the "boy" more corrupt than "his boss"?


3) Will Buhari after being sponsored by the likes of Jagaban turn around and prosecute him Impossible. He won't have that moral right.

4) Remember, the case of 53 suitcases linked to an emir. If he never prosecuted those then; how will he now? I heard he blamed Atiku(the then controller general of custom) for that. Is it Atiku that was the head of state?? is it Atiku that will prosecute the emir?

5)Buhari may not have enriched himself as PTF boss, but his cronies did. Most staff of PTF under him did. So is same scenario not going to play out if elected again

Thank You...Ichie B.

Sparkle777:
Exactly, Buhari is not a better alternative. If apc has chosen suitable candidate like Fashola, I d have voted them but not Buhari. Gej is coming back.

Sincerely, at inception I was a fan of APC but their desperation made them lose focus over time and hence, lost my admiration. They would have probably won my sympathy back if they fielded competent candidates but NOT at all Buhari...APC seems more engrossed with winning central governance than with the mode, antecedent, and personality traits and tendencies of the one who wins the election. They really with Buhari represent "Change to Parochialism & ethno-religious" bastardization of Nigeria...

If only we can see beyond our nose...Buhari isn't the Messiah we seek...He can at best mortgage this entity called Nigeria without any qualms...His inability to condole and console with the families of victims of 2011 post election violence denotes one who has no conscious, schizophrenic and incomparably heartless and wicked...history beckons!!!

A Great day Wish to you; fellow country men and women. I am constrained to write on this seemingly controversial topic because it hurts me to see our youths waste their life and tomorrow on social media unknowingly while shifting the blame on others especially their leaders without any self examination. Most of my submissions here is based on personal interaction and observation on Nairaland.
Have you ever asked yourself, what is the magic wand being wielded by many others who are succeeding irrespective of the same challenges you are facing with them So many factors account for why you can NEVER go beyond your present state unless they are addressed and resolved. Such factors as these will hold you down;

CHARACTER:
We are used to the dictum that says; "your attitude determines your altitude". Most youths move and sink with the waves of indiscipline and disrespect. There use of vulgar languages, insulting words, abusive quotes and other such gutter styles can only portray their nauseating characters. Which for sure is a guarantee that they won't attain any responsible height in life.

I AM A GRADUATE MENTALITY:
Why would you be boasting of carrying a mere piece of paper(certificate) which ordinarily won't change anything about you unless you decide to change it. If there's no job in the neighborhood but there's a NEED there. Why not solve that need and make money out of it, while now providing jobs for others. No job is too menial or too dirty or too demeaning if the money(cash) therein is of same exchange value with cash "dangote" is using.

GEJ (LEADERS) CAUSED MY UNEMPLOYMENT:
Yes, its part of their leadership responsibilities to provide an enabling environment for you to thrive but not an excuse for you to fail. Your failure or present mediocre state is because you have failed yourself. Do you know the millions of others succeeding albeit facing same challenges as you No country in the world is with zero unemployment not even America and the likes. So wake up and use your head. Stop passing the blame or you may die a frustrated being.

DEFEATIST MENTALITY:
Who told you that those who are succeeding while you are failing is because they are corrupt or bribing their way in cash/kind or have people in authority? Move out of your shell. They see opportunities where you see challenges. They see bridges where you see blocks.

WASTED OPPORTUNITY:
Is government responsible for your inability to make correct sentences Is GEJ to be held accountable for your third class result? Was it government that made you an addict(women, drugs etc) Is government to blame why you lack parental training??. Who is to be blamed for all the opportunities you wasted.

PESSIMISM:
Why see impossibilities everywhere? Why see others as liars including government? Why view situations from negative side always? Why see a "half empty cup" instead of a "half full cup" Why do you find it difficult to trust people and government? Why see failure and talk failure always From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh...

Let me stop here...Who says you can't make a good and responsible contact on social media...Is social media all for fun and 'madness' for you? Be responsible!!! Write, talk, quote, argue & interact responsibly and you will attract reasonable folks unknowingly. As a tree stands so it falls...
You are free to add more, comment, and criticize...
Happy Sunday to all...

Sleekyshuga:
I've mentioned Aluu twice; 1st in my response to this question and where I did quote someone.. I'm on IT in the establishment @ Aluu but this is owned by the Federal Government while Songhai is a State Government establishment, Rivers State Government to be precise..

It's all good.. I'll PM you the contact of a friend @ Songhai.. He'll explain better.. I can only tell of ARAC @ Aluu...

Thank you ezigbo mmadu...kindly send whatever detail to that phone number plz...I need both yours and the guys biko...and modify to remove those numbers from public glare biko...dalu

Sleekyshuga:
I am not @ Songhai but I have friends/course mates over there who are also on IT.. They'll know more about Songhai..

Still, you can know more about them on Google.. It's a platform that simplifies things.. Tnxs..

Nne, thanks...i know google but wanted a first hand experience because Google won't tell me about their shortcomings etc...heard there's another in aluu or Sth...all same thank you...kindly edit and remove my number...Chukwu gozie gi...

Sleekyshuga:
I am presently on my Industrial Training in a Federal Government Establishment; African Regional Aqua-Culture Centre, Aluu.. In my 2nd month already, and I've come to appreciate Agriculture and it's importance..

One Million naira can go a long way in getting you loads of profits....

1. Fish Farming: Have you ever thought of the huge profits you'll make when you start this? Get a good land (half plot for a start), buy your fries, and start up with guidelines from an expert..

2. Snailery: This is another lucrative business which will fetch you cool cash.. Snails are appreciated in Nigeria, and on the high side.. You can also become a supplier to hotels, fast foods etc..

3. Poultry: It's the season for killing chicken ... It can be stressful though, but the profit is worth it..

4. Feed Mill: This is a place where the feeds for aqua cultural livestock are produced.. With a little plot of land, and the right equipment with an expert guiding you, you can make huge profits.. People will come buy this feed from you..

5. Piggery: This is another lucrative investment..

6. Macrobrachium: This is the culturing and rearing of Prawns which is otherwise known as Oporo (guess I got the spelling ).. It's a delicious delicacy used in our meal, and quite expensive but the disadvantage of this is that, you'll need a flowing river (fresh water to be precise) where you can set your traps during the waterfall..

Hope I was able to help?

Would you please send me your contact to ...I want to get details of Songhai plz...thanks

Depending on ones carriage... I believe I wouldn't mind cos the guys will like me and I am gonna strike friendship with them too...
If its my younger sister, once the guys visiting are of good character and carriage... I wouldn't mind...though, not without whispering one or two words of wisdom into her ear...

gebest:
pls modify it, i dont want my number on display.

Have removed it bro...kindly do same for me plz...modify and remove my number...thanks

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thank you so much

gebest:
hello, are u there

You may wish to flash me with your number on ...thanks so much...

gebest:
hello, are u there

Am sorry, just came on now...