₦airaland Forum

OrlandoOwoh:
Do you expect APC supporters to fold their hands and watch the election rigged? You always mention the professor's advice, I guess you suffered an eye problem when you read to where he said supporters should be allowed to protest.

Don't you guys rig too Did the man not specify and clear himself vividly on the issue of protest? What has your comment there got to do with what he said?

ammyluv2002:
The people of Anambra

You somewhat sick to be calling people of anambra...which part of anambra do you represent Which sincere anambra man/woman doesn't respect Peter Obi Do you come online to just type t.r.as.h. about people? may you experience same measure of mischief from others always....

Keneking:
Who cares...he kept us in the dark for eight years as governor.We are wiser today.

You aren't any wiser...your s.t.u.p.d.I.t.y just started shining out now...which us sef? mpama

olatunji21:
He's been celebrated...That why u never see any tangible development in the south east.. They don't scold thiefs because he is their "Son"

Really How do you mean your spelling depicts a frustrated illiterate boy...Hope there's still primary education in your side?.. consider a trip there for adult education class

ammyluv2002:
Honestly! I don't like him...he fooled us

Do you care to explain this??.? which us

barcanista:
After looting anambra state

Can you explain this your careless statement
Or you just wake up and maligned individuals?
Are you from anambra or in anambra?

Orikinla:
GEJ LIED TO NIGERIANS.

Are you sick in the head? What has this got to do with the topic? Did Jonathan stop you or your family from contesting Why not join the race?

OrlandoOwoh:
Minimize what? Why didn't FG think of minimize the anxiety of people that it knows the sponsors of Boko Haram by giving us the names of the two Nigerians in the plane involved in illegal arms purchase in South Africa?

What will you do with the names bro What has this poo you wrote got to do with the Prof's candid advice Why do you always see things from myopic, senseless, and irresponsible point of view Are you sick in the head Most times, your write ups and mode of reasoning irritates me...Can you be someone's role model or mentor...What's your problem? Since, you don't give a damn about the violence...may you experience it real time...gush!!!!

gists
It was simply a section by section statement of myopic, sentimental, indiscreet and propaganda based words...So no need honouring such with my time and energy.
As a leader, to answer your question... you consider the bigger picture of security, economic and general implications of your decisions and actions.
Mind you; I choose my words. I don't like you base on sentiments hence I never said buhari sponsors boko haram because I have no evidence to substantiate that claim...but his numerous statements shows that he is 100% sympathetic to them and he believes Nigeria should be islamized...remember boko haram acknowledged this fact by appointing him as their mediator with FG...
In all, GEJ can't arrest him for simply showing sympathy to boko haram because its not a crime constitutionally.
More so, GEJ in his mien allows opposition to get away with some treasonable statements(remember, amechi's talk of parallel government)... Same is applicable in his allowing buhari get away with some irresponsible and parochial statements...
Anyway, I am still waiting for you based on the topic of this thread to tell me where buhari will derive the moral right to fight corruption?? since he is already soaked and surrounded by corruption?
Where is his manifesto?? Or is his manifesto "insulting GEJ" without basis...

mikolo80:
what more do you want as evidence,ppl were jailed/house arrested /whipped/firing squadded so we know for a fact it will not be business as usual.


How many months before oduah was removed or for chibok girls to be acknowleged,diezani still reigns supreme and pej still an embarrassment to an entire race

Boy stop quoting me...get a brain and seek out your life because as it is, you seem more confused and lack focus....just typing and reasoning from behind because you have access to internet with little data...

mikolo80:
where has logic ever beat sentiment in a political contest. Man is not rational,never was,never will be,at least not in mob mode

What are you saying where are you from? who is your teacher? Certainly, you are doomed with this line of reasoning....

mikolo80:
guy you de nigeria so. How many cassava bread you don chop,or local rice or how many good road you don use(do you travel extensively) os it leaking airport roofs you are praising as transport masterplan.na wa o, well its not your fault,too much nollywood even if you never comot this country before at leas the infrastructure /economy you see on tv is not film trick na abi why una all de find visa to go born una pikin overs. ? Abi how many westerners do you see looking to settle in any third world country,this one wen light no de and one mumu de promise us for 6yrs(anyway i no blame am,na we be d maga wen vote am)

Boy, stop being timid...based on what you quoted, there is a question there...I need an answer to it...what is buhari's economic blueprint for Nigeria? How does be intend to fight corruption especially given that he has already surrounded himself with people who use their state resource for personal gain.? I need answers plzzzz

mikolo80:
guy you de nigeria so. How many cassava bread you don chop,or local rice or how many good road you don use(do you travel extensively) os it leaking airport roofs you are praising as transport masterplan.na wa o, well its not your fault,too much nollywood even if you never comot this country before at leas the infrastructure /economy you see on tv is not film trick na abi why una all de find visa to go born una pikin overs. ? Abi how many westerners do you see looking to settle in any third world country

Boy, you are timid...take me back to the topic of this thread...

mikolo80:
if you wan catch monkey...what do you do?

Selective persecution is waaaayyy better than no persecution at all,i'll take it anyday,when its pdp's turn,if they like they should not selectively persecute(show of incompetence)

You are a blind party boy...I am not a politician but a keen observer in the polity and a supporter of individual candidates who do well irrespective of party affiliation... You mean you support selective Justice? may you experience one by his grace...

mikolo80:
are you deaf blind or dumb? He said his manifestooooo isssss antiiiii corruptioooooon. Read his lipssssss he is coming for allllll you thievessssss. Shoki.

Ah nigerians can like drama and speeches that will not be implemented fa.

Which anti-corruption? How do you fight corruption that's in your bed already when corrupt and stolen funds are used in your favour will jail jagaban, saraki, amechi etc?? remember he has only one million naira, where will his campaign funds come from?

mikolo80:
the general's wand is integrity and courage(political will),lack of vanity

i know farmers and no,they did not smell the fertilizer

I wonder...anyway, move it back to the topic of the thread based on points I raised...

mikolo80:
may innocent drug dealers lace your children with cocaine then come here and lets see if you will still be saying what you're spewing

Do you know what they call extra-judicial killings Do you know about human right abuses do you know about killing based on laws in retrospect? Have you ever wondered why America and others insist that rights of boko haram boys when caught .mustn't be abused? not minding what they do to innocents?

mikolo80:
yep his grandsons need him to step up and secure their future instead of hiding behind age or his grandsons.thats how you know a man and not a coward. He's standing up for what he believes in, anti corruption,no matter what you throw at him,same as you are standing for corruption no matter how much suffer you suffer under this clueless government/party

Where you see suffering others even foreigners see opportunities... its your choice...Answer my questions on Buhari's anti corruption crusade based on the facts on the thread or quit grappling with nothing...can he jail jagaban or saraki?

mikolo80:
umm lets see...security,prosperity,integrity?

Gmb will bring integrity which will shore up prosperity which will even out security cos truth be told even the ordinary cassava bread i never see

Which is focus of this thread...In his personal deals; I won't question his integrity. But he who goes to equity must go with clean hands...How much integrity is remaining in you if you allow governors to use other state's fund for your personal ambition? Will he have the moral right to jail those who stole to foot his bills?

chigoizie7:
this is a game of 50/50 many people will vote for buhari not because buhari is better than GEJ but because there is no alternative to GEF except GMB, as for me? na all those money wey dem raise for the dinner my eye de shoook, cos i no even get voters card.

lolz...you are not serious joor...biko jee gbatakwa voters card...o di ezigbo mkpa...dalu

gists...
I actually wanted to respond to your long epistle of inanities but on a second thought...is better I ignore you since you have chosen to ignore the truth and stand facts on its head...
It is actually disheartening when you see folks like you; who blinded by sentiments refuse to see reason and they keep grappling with straws...
Mind you; give me whatever name that pleases you and pour insults and invectives on me but it still doesn't change the fact that you are fighting a lost battle...
I will be proud to have him as a dad bro...he is a man of uncommon destiny...
Keep dreaming bro...GMB till you wake up!!!

ayindejimmy:
All these are hypothesis that lacked solid foundation. Didn't you see the people donating billions for Gej? Where did they get all that? And how do they intend to get it back. Let's concern ourselves with what's already happening. Some people had already milked us into inflation and our president is in collaboration.

Pick them one after the other and prove to me how and what makes them hypothetical... Are they not issues we have been confronted with as we speak...Anyway, enjoy your dream while it lasts...

olu77:
We have insecurity at its peak and as far as the president is concerned there is no corruption. The president did some good works but protecting, embracing and even rewarding corrupt people is the problem with his style of leadership. No one can resolve the major problems of this nation without tackling corruption. We need a leader that will strengten the judiciary to independently work.

Insecurity thrives with local support and sympathy...if all stakeholders in the north without playing politics decides that boko haram will go; you see the magic within 48hours...##quote me##
Let me educate you a little on fighting corruption from my little understanding of the Nigerian problem. Corruption has eaten deep into the fabric of Nigerian system. If you fight it with "muscle", your government will be sabotaged and the economy will collapse like a pack of cards on your head. Even your citizens will not believe your story when you tell them of your innocence.
Now, imagine what's happening with oil sector. Same people who said you shouldn't remove subsidy are the ones saying that you steal through subsidy.##what an irony##. They used the poor man that needs fuel only for his tiger generator and kymco motorcycle to protest as against the rich man(maybe an oil importer or marketer) who powers his generator for his filling station business with fuel which has been subsidized for him initially. Now, he gains twice. What does the poor man who shout corruption gain? nothing...
If you decide as government to move against importers of oil with force they stop importing(wahala). Touch marketers, they park up(wahala). Touch regulatory agency they go on strike(wahala). What do you do? You have to strategically keep managing them and slowly take that poisoned feeding bottle(corruption) from them...It takes dedication and consistency...Do you think if Diezani & co are not getting it right that the opposition would have spared her forget the unfounded blackmails and allegations... it takes systematic effort to reawaken a dead system...do you think those who gained from the old system will spare you if you don't thread cautiously... Its a powerful cabal with international backing...they will blackmail you...threaten you...make attempts on your life...etc...just a consistent effort is needed and I believe GEJ is getting it right albeit slowly...forget the lies and propaganda bro...
Judiciary is already completely autonomous... no story about that...

gists:
I am not sure I understand your logic here.

To start with I am tempted to say that if you combine the resources of many (if not all) of those small African countries (Mali et al), Nigeria still beats them hands down. So I still don't quite agree with 5k:2k. Nigeria is RICH my brother.

Also China, India as at the last time I checked are far better than us on most if not all indices. They are at least 7 and 8 times more than us in population and have far more land mass. So we can't argue we are not prosperous because of our population/land mass. Infact it is actually a blessing as it means there is market for commerce. Otherwise, how do you explain how US is richer than Nigeria even when US is at least 2 our population and have a landmass of about the size of west africa.

Surely, GMB cannot solve all our problems. Anybody saying that is just not serious. But the ones that are most serious without which there cannot be true growth he can fix or put us on a good stead to fixing i.e insecurity and corruption. These two nightmare are the fertilizer of gej administration. Who cares about being the biggest economy or auto revolution when farmers are killed on their way to the farm and the president is seen dining with accused sponsors of terrorist (no sponsor or any high profile arrest so far after 10000s of lives are lost). Who cares about the fraudulent electricity reforms (with no improvement if not even worse state) when billions grow wings and disappears only to resurface on donation for the presidential campaign.

We want a clamp down on insecurity and a brave/sincere fight against corruption. Without these two all our supposed agains will be on paper only just like we have woken up to the reality of how poor Nigerians are even though the country is the biggest economy in Africa.

#GNB2015

Good for you...but the core of my topic is that your BUHAri CANNOT & WILL NOT fight that corruption which is the only item in his manifesto albeit incomplete, because he is yet to explain the methodology to employ in this seeming fight...Is he going to employ angels as his soldiers or Nigerians in that fight of corruption?? How will he do it?
What is your take on the points raised above as it concerns Buhari
Insecurity... I have written something before about this... Our army was strategically disarmed over the years and men on ground had no much training... COSMETIC soldiers were employed(they're cosmetic soldiers because they never forsaw boko haram coming hence came into the army through the back door for the fame and money). Now, with boko haram, they desert war fronts and run home with phantom excuses...Mind you; soldiers are supposed to be diehards...remember Biafra war story where men fought bare hand, with sticks and dane guns...and they withstood Nigerian army for 30months##bravery you may say##...I am not advocating that they go and commit suicide with boko haram...equipment alone is not the problem but also, the personnel...See other issues in my other quote of you to avoid repetition...
Buhari has no magic wand to stop and can not even fight corruption when he is surrounded by corruption and corrupt entities...and he is also enjoying corrupt money from their campaign funds to him which are state funds...or can he ever jail jagaban...who just gave him a VP who do you think will have the loyalty of that VP jagaban or buhari...so wake up bro...thank you

gists:
I have said it before and I will repeat it again. Our problem is not gej. Our problem did not start with gej. He is just a crazy a$$hole compounding our problems.

I love your seeming unbiased post but you are still an a$$hole for not having respect for your leaders...
Now, can you without prejudice again study and analyse the religious card, security challenge and ill-equipped army armoury that's facing us...
How did the religious card issue come on high
Did GEJ advise christians to vote only christains NO
Did BUhari advise moslems to vote only moslems YES
Did GEJ encourage murder of Moslems NO
Did BUhari encourage murder of christians YES!!! when he encouraged sharia system in Nigeria and threatened for make Nigeria ungovernable... anarchists under that umbrella unleashed mayhem on innocent Nigerians...(its an open secret that GEJ cannot directly move against GMB today no matter his crime...why the opposition will cry witch hunting and northerners will cry victimization). Why didn't emir sanusi speak out the way he is doing now when boko haram was mainly
concentrating on killing christians remember the time of St. Theresa madala etc...it is now affecting all...
On security; why would a state governor not forge a common front with FG but for the sake of politics leave his state(he is chief security officer notwithstanding emergency rule...all state fund go to him as well as day to day state activities) and rush to London to castigate FG and shift blames...It is this distrust that complicated the tragedy of chibok...
Quote me anywhere; boko haram no matter what the army & FG do today can NEVER end till the northerners say; "enough is enough". Boko haram is still standing and gaining strength today simply because of LOCAL SUPPORT, LOCAL SYMPATHY & LOCAL INTELLIGENCE...Mind you; The same people who say that you are decimating the north by fighting and killing boko haram members; are same people crying wolf that you are allowing boko haram to kill them...how do you reconcile these?
Buying security equipment isn't like buying cheese balls or buying fish at oyingbo market...lots of protocols and processes(not an excuse). But remember, which leader gradually depleted and disarmed our army and armoury. Our armoury is down to nothing for years running... Can you re-equip them overnight?? NO...Are their sabotage Yes...so many players with so many hidden and ulterior motives on the international scene...
Are there room for improvements Yes...
Are we on the right track Yes...
Are their quick fixes to these challenges NO...
If anyone or BUHARI says he can stop them overnight.There are two possibilities in that assertion.(1)It is either he is the problem hence he will change his ways or (2) He has, breeds and knows the problem, hence can always call them in at his own time...
Which one is Buhari if he can fix all these challenges overnight?

gists:
Bro sorry to bust your bubbles. But I am extremely disappointed that you suggest countries like Botswana, Niger, Benin, Mali etc have the same amount of resources as Nigeria. While I agree that population is a challenge, please don't use that as excuse for our backwardness. India that you mentioned just launched their heaviest rocket into space! We got independence in the same year from the same colonial master.
We have FAAARRRR more resources and income (your same 5k to two families does not apply at all) than those "smaller countries".

Fine bro...don't grapple with straws joor...give 2k to the smaller family and 5k to bigger family...does it make sense to you now which family do you think will come out stronger in the long run....
Check world's index on poverty in India, China and Nigeria as against those with less population density and landmass...
I am not making an excuse for several years of decadence in our leadership... but under GEJ are we moving on or making head way? Of course yes.....
Is buhari having a magic wand for automatic reversal of all these years of decadence which he contributed to in the 80's? Absolutely NOOOOOOOOO....
Buhari is no messiah to do quick fix to our challenge...
Note that Nigeria's challenge has no quick fix...it must involve a meticulous and consistent policy formulation and constructive action...

chemali:
I won't dignify you with a response anymore. When comparisons are made, it's not done in absolute terms. Use your brains next time.

I hope you haven't lost appetite for dinner...Lolz...
Kindly explain the basis under which you will leave Nigeria for those other countries grouped with nigeria as according to you the report is an evidence that the transformation agenda isn't working or practicable or isn't reflecting in the lives of citizens??
Even without any statistical data, I already know that the economic situation of both my extended and nuclear family keeps improving yearly notwithstanding we have no politicians in the family##majorly technocrats and business men and women##...
We are transforming gradually bro...lolz

chemali:
That's a brazen lie. PTF was known for its transparency. Tell us about Sure-P and how they scam jobless graduates? Tell us more about the oil subsidy and kerosene subsidy scam. Tell us more about stella Oduah and Diezani?

I have an issue with you...I ask one question based on the topic of this thread...instead of providing answer, you jump board into another unrelated issue...Is Jonathan same as Buhari Is buhari same as odua, diezani etc or you wanna derail? is it buhari now against ministers?
Back to topic;
Tell me how and why buhari's one million naira with no other means of income never finishes...and he keeps contesting for presidency every quarter?...
From where will you get funds for his 2014/2015 campaigns? is it still the one million or will governors use another state fund to campaign for St. Buhari...who wants to rid you of corruption but takes other people's money to campaign? is it that the end must justify the means Willy nilly....??

lacasa:
That's the problem wt the average minded nigerian like yourself.

You askedd and it was given, but now, it is utopian, it is not feasible, it is not transformational.

It is evidently clear u r not intersted in wat APC and buhari are willing to offer, u r only interested in defending an undefendable and dying transformation agenda with no stock.


Even in the eyes of God there are those beyond redemption and you are chief amongst them in Nigeria.

So,. #GMB15

Either embrace the change or get out of the way Shikenan!

An advice bro...##Donot take the name of the Lord your God in vain## Be careful to avoid blasphemy...
I asked for a copy of; "BUHARI'S ECONOMIC BLUEPRINT AND MAGIC WAND" for the Nigeria he dreams to rule and not for APC's academic compilation of utopian and unfeasible theories...Note the difference and comply accordingly...As Buhari dreams to rule nigeria, hasn't he compiled his action plans or guiding document based on verifiable data on our current state and empirical plans on how to lead us to promised land?where is such document? or is he coming to do trial and error??... I am waiting plzzzzzzzz....get me such document.....do you still remember Oby Ezekwesili's comment on that unrealistic document and its carriers during APC inauguration?

chemali:
What do you say about the report released last week despite the "transformation"

Now bro, common sense a times isn't common...no offence plzz....Now, take note of the population of those countries mentioned as against that of Nigeria...weigh it against our resources via per capita income.....
Let me draw an analogy to help you here...if I give 5k as business capital to your family of 50 men to share and work with...and same 5k to another family of 10 men to use for same purpose within same time frame ceteris paribus...who will have more disposal income in the short run among them? But in the long run which family do you think will come out better, stronger, fulfilled and formidable Have you wondered why they still group China and India in world's countries with high rate of poverty?? Population bro....do not wish yourself evil to win election(to have campaign points)...do not be a pessimist or harbinger of bad news##word##

chemali:
Oh, that's why his attorney general signed the Malabu oil deal because he was busy fixing agriculture?

Malabu oil deal we will get there...sector by sector...Remember, Buhari was in charge of PTF and under him his cronies & staff were looting us dry maybe on his behalf...Have you wondered how a man who said he has only 1million in his account with no known means of income has been perennially contesting presidential election every quarter...who is funding him or how does that magical 1million naira replenish itself without end...is buhari the new biblical zarephat woman...can holy buhari jail jagaban or almakura or wamakko or amechi for corruption offences

chemali:
I'm still waiting for your response.

Has Jonathan told us his own before you start to ask for that for Buhari who just ascertained he will be contesting last week.

Wow...are you the only one in "Israel" who doesn't know what is happening GEJ has his "transformation agenda" which has been his template for guided integrated development strategy. It's that same "TRANSFORMATION AGENDA" that is manifesting in the new "industrial revolution master plan"...in the new automotive policy which has seen auto giants scrambling to set up new plants here(have you heard about even our own innoson)... agricultural transformation which saw our food import cost drastically run down from 1trillion to around 634billlion and is still going down...ask flour mills, dangote,etc who are setting up farms what is driving them ....have you seen our transport sector master plan and the accompanying revolution Even international agencies like KPMG acknowledged it yet you and Buhari are yet to wake up to reality.... Do you still want me to continue?? show me buhari's economic blueprint and magic wand....am waiting