₦airaland Forum

lovelygurl:
I will not repeat myself again

1) Anybody that will bring the Bible up when topics like this are being discussed, should rather make sure he doesn't sin at all, so he'll make heaven. No need to judge, that's God's job

2) Anybody that brings up traditions into this, should be ready to want to live before civilisation and accept EVERYTHING that comes with those traditions

3) Anybody who whines about how life was so much better in the past should go and join those from the past in their graves

If a guy refuses to marry Who the f cares. Some ladies also do not want to marry. Marriage is NOT a must

Who is forcing you to pay bride price. All this ridiculous whinings are tiring. Must you pay bride price? Hell no!

Indeed, you are smart by half...good morning!!!

Handsomecole:
Mr. Error pointer don't try to divert, the English Error aspect is not my major point in my comment, it's just additional and not the major I stressed on.

Really? Meaning you don't even understand what you wrote So much for a soul that wants to demean others as illiterates who can't write correct sentences yet can't string one together himself ...smh

lovelygurl:
They have arrived. The saints that are definitely going to heaven

It's when topics like this are being discussed about that they start shouting Bible

Hypocrites

She might even be an atheist because in her comments she said apart from the Bible which the WHITE MAN brought to us

Nawa to some of you sef...

Yea...aside the Bible per chance she isn't a Christian...Isn't she Igbo from her name? is she she Nigerian? isn't she African? Isn't the position of all these traditions in consonance with the Bible? All these babes with complex and bossy attitudes...Reason some guys are afraid of marriage ... because you may not have known all about the lady you're bringing into your home...

Why not start a campaign for bride price to stop and maybe ladies can marry men or anybody can marry anybody...why Not seek for abolition of ministry of women affairs?...that way, your fight for equality will make sense!!!

madridguy:
The master of corruption his here again.

If we were to take your assertion here as a fact, how much has been traced to him? Since, he challenged all to make public any foreign account or assets belonging to him, how many have you guys made public? If ALL instrument that reduced corruption in Nigeria from cashless policy to BVN to IPPIS to digitalization of most NPA payments, to effectively ending fertilizer scam were courtesy of him...don't you think that you are messing yourself up? or maybe hatred or bigotry is eating you up? or what exactly? What made him master of corruption? How's Obj or even Buhari better than him especially in corruption scandals?

JohnXcel:
Thank you...

No sane society needs your type...!!!

Adebowale89:
let this people get their Biafra and experience world war III


them never get their Biafra na fight and argument everyday. is it not funny they can't unite to form one voice. ohaneze, ipob....soon u will see another group

that's why I labelled them as clowns

Does Afenifere &, Afenifere Renowned mean unity? Oba Lagos and Ife king crisis mean unity? Ifemodekeke crisis mean unity? don't you think you are the clown?

JohnXcel:
Any one who has observed will see there's a form of Mass Delusion among these people.

Even the few one's that try to be reasonable among them are insulted out of their midst (well as we've come to know on Nairaland, that's their MO).

Anyways, [b]"give them their Biafra"...[b]

Time has a voice...

I see mass respect and discuss on ideas whenever Fayose, Odumakin, FFK, etc come to the table of analytical reasoning in Southwest... Hypocrites!!!

Handsomecole:
I have always said it the only difference between these Biafran agitators and Boko-Haram is the life that they don't take. But they are similar to Boko Haram, they are so vulgar, insulting, arrogant and temperamental violent in nature.

You can hardly engage any one of them in an intellectual discussion, they must insult and use violent languages. It's the more reason I just loathe the whole Biafran idea, just like their mentor Nnamdi Kanu, thank God the law has clipped his flapping wings and running mouth. Most of them are bunch of illiterates it's more reason they hardly make any successful English sentence devoid of errors.
If you doubt me just follow how they will quote this my comment.

Mr Professor... Read your write up again...and tell me if it justifies your school fees especially in making "successful English sentence devoid of errors" A criteria you used in judging Biafran agitators .

abescom:
What do they always mean by this marginalisation nonsense. Did an igboman come out for presidency and he was stopped?

Igbo will not agree, they never do, but they themselves are their own problem. They have made enemies with people who ought to support them and then go around shouting "they hate us".

If at every opportunity you regard me as your enemy, do you then have any right to complain when and if I refuse to support you for something for you need my help for?

Also, take 2003 for instance, Igbos had a golden chance to oust OBJ but were too greedy and to disunited. Who supported Orji? How many Igbos voted for him?

Igbos need to as soon as possible make up their minds. Do they want to be seen as part of one Nigeria or do they want to go? Do they want to keep seeing the yoruba as enemy or an ally that will be useful to them? Do they want to be united in their bid to rule the country ( which to be honest is fair enough) or not?

Address all this and your problems will be solved.

1)If you were sensible enough, you will know that NO TRIBE or society is entirely one...Is Fayose and Obj one? Is Fashola and Odumakin one?

2)No tribe plays ETHNIC politics of hatred more than Yoruba...eg Give me example of Oba Lagos in Igbo land? Give me example of Dr Ariyo in Igbo land? Keep lying to yourself...even Sanusi Lamido Sanusi article reminds Yoruba something always...

3) Using your own 2003 example of Orji Uzo Kalu against OBJ; how come Olu Falae didn't win in 1999 with all the support from Yoruba against same Obj especially when the wounds of Abiola were still fresh?

Learn to use your head in a public forum...thanks !!!

Mynd44:
So President Jonathan admitted to being sold on a terrorist group that was killing Nigerians daily and was a threat to our very existence and you think he was right… .

Have a great day

If Jonathan was wrong in his statement, How come Human Rights and countries all-over the world respect these killers and their rights irrespective of the harm they cause ?

Mynd44:
And an Ex-President said "We are soft on Boko Haram because they are our brothers".

World leaders talk carelessly everytime to get supporters and political clout. You take them seriously?

Your hypocrisy is out of this world..smh

I expected to read your reply to nawtyme & raker300 who both quoted you before Eternaltruths...so much for a patriotic Nigerian who's sincere...

Do a comparative analysis of this Jonathan comment in context as against Buhari's comment in same context...

Sincerely, there lots of closet terrorists and terrorists sympathizers!!!

Pierocash:
Like i keep saying, agitation and seccession won't solve the igbo problem.Restrucructuring the nation is the best bet,only two category of people are in support of breakup (1)The corrupt southerners who want to use breakup to evade judgement (2)The gullibles and illiterates who knws nothing abt governance.
The Igbos are better off in Nigeria

And in your warped analogy, there won't be justice for the corrupt ones in Biafra? and how many of these illiterates do you think you reason better than cognitively?

malton:
GEJ is right to feel betrayed.

I probably would too if I were in his shoes.

But he's taking it too personal, blaming everyone but himself.

Like Sonala Olumhense rightly puts it, GEJ is the accused trying the judge in his own courtroom.

If you must be told in plain words, those Northern leaders are useless and cannot influence many people to vote for or against anyone. They aren't as influential as they made him believe.

Buhari lost against this same Jonathan in 2011. Do you think he did because the core Northerners voted for him against Buhari? Hell no! Buhari lost because both the Southwest and Middle Belt voted massively for GEJ. Make no mistake, these are some of the regions that vote based on stats only, and not out of sentiment.

In the end, what did these two regions get in return? Your guess is as good as mine. I don't mean this as in direct benefits; I do in the general sense.

As a Punch editorial by Olumhense puts it, GEJ lost because "His electoral campaigns were built on lies he never attempted to implement, he openly approved of corruption, and under his management Nigeria grew from poorly-managed to unmanageable."

If we faced the same situations again with the same players, I bet the same scenario would play out.

1)Every GOOD politician wields some power over his constituency...Northern politicians have some influence on the masses...

2) Jonathan needed to score basically 5% or thereabout in core Northern states if those politicians didn't betray him...but because they did, he scored less than 2%...

3) Southwest just like every other region benefited from Jonathan administration MORE than they did in OBJ administration yet they voted for OBJ and Yar'adua subsequently... I CHALLENGE you to show me what OBJ did in Southwest in 2003 that made you to vote for him massively for 2nd term? Then we can do a comparative analysis of what Jonathan did there too...Am waiting so why didn't they vote for Jonathan if they could condone Obj?

4)90% of instrument used to detect corruption in Nigeria today were introduced by Jonathan... beginning from NPA(he digitalized most payments), civil service(IPPIS), BVN, cashless policy, TSA, etc... Jonathan ended fertilizer scam in Nigeria... Tell me which sector, Obj or Buhari has eliminated corruption in Nigeria? What's Nigeria position in corruption perception index by Transparency international(TI) under Obj, Jonathan, & Buhari so what and where did you get that he's most corrupt government? Let's trade facts and NOT nonsensical sentiments by folks like you & davodyguy

5) Southwest just like northern Nigeria votes along ETHNIC lines since INDEPENDENCE till date...I deal on facts bro!!! I challenge you to counter these facts!!!

Cc davodyguy , eleojo23

HungerBAD:
Rest in peace brother.

He was actually one of the first persons on Nairaland i noticed.

Even in his write ups,he was a Gentleman. If i remember correctly,he studied Philosophy and had lots of Philosophical quotings.

May God give his family the fortitude his exit created.

Always,the good ones die first.

Rest in peace.

Seun
Lalasticlacla
Mynd44
Fynestboi
Obynoscopy

Oya make una show make we remember this Nairalander.

To the OP thanks.

Even on days, I acted an anonymous member of the forum, you will always seek out a line to draw me out...You
were an unknown brother, an unrepentant critic of my Biafra belief, always bashing me for osu caste system in
Igbo land which though nonexistent presently to the best of knowledge but you held on to bashing me for it,
drew me to comment on your philosophical jargons, made a friend and brother out of me but NEVER allowed us
to meet before traveling to paradise. Surely, I will catch up with you there some day...Rest in Peace Beloved
Friend and Brother!!! I miss your presence here!!! Goodnight!!!

AmbodOfLASU:
Today makes it exactly a year we lost our brother and friend to the cold hands of death.

We love and miss you our dear brother.

Adieu! MAY we meet at the cosmic gate.

Even on days, I acted an anonymous member of the forum, you will always seek out a line to draw me out...You were an unknown brother, an unrepentant critic of my Biafra belief, always bashing me for osu caste system in Igbo land which though nonexistent presently to the best of knowledge but you held on to bashing me for it, drew me to comment on your philosophical jargons, made a friend and brother out of me but NEVER allowed us to meet before traveling to paradise. Surely, I will catch up with you there some day...Rest in Peace Beloved Friend and Brother!!! I miss your presence here!!! Goodnight!!!

Zico5:
And somebody call this vagabond a pastor? Pastor my foot. He surely know his hand is not clean and that's why he hide in US just to be attacking like dog. He is one of the people that destroyed Gej with corruption. God will surely arrest him wherever he may be unless if his hands are clean. Somebody like this need watery beans in kirikiri just to reset his brain.

Is common sense that costly in your area

laudate:
It is easy to respond to messages without sounding insulting. Governors do not control security outfits but they have direct access to those who control the security outfits of their respective states, and governors have security votes. What have they done with such votes?

As for immigration policies, guy please go and check. Every country is free to enact immigration policies to keep out unwanted nationals or foreign citizens of other countries, if it so wishes. Have you forgotten that Trump exercised this prerogative in the US recently with respect to some Muslim countries?

As for sending MTN & Shoprite packing, if they contravene any laws of Nigeria that warrants them to be sent packing, please be rest assured that the govt shall do so, if it deems fit. Don't forget that when incidents which affect foreign interests occur, there is a lot of high-level diplomatic politics that takes place behind the scenes, to protect the business interests and citizens of such foreign countries that are resident in the country.

How much do they sell common sense in your area? Plz I can't continue this discussion because you are contradicting yourself and making irrelevant and incoherent posts...

laudate:
Protected by which government? The same SE governors whose government could not protect their citizens from the Fulani herdsmen when they came calling along the border communities of Enugu state & other areas in the South-east?

By the way, every government can enact immigration laws that would make it difficult for foreigners to live or do business within their borders. Didn't you hear of the Ghana-Must-Go episode in the seventies, that saw a lot of Ghanaians expelled from Nigeria?

I find it difficult replying some messages without sounding insulting...

1)Just imagine ignorance...do Governors control any security outfit? So how were they to fight herdsmen?

2)Imagine someone's reasoning in 21st century...Plz shift...why have you not evicted MTN, ShopRite etc with all the xenophobia in South Africa?

maclatunji:
No goal to be shifted. Benin Republic and Nigeria are countries. Does that mean you analyze their issues the same.

Why are Igbos still whining about their treatment across Nigeria during the Civil War if it was easy to be seen as hostile foreigners.

Sometimes I wonder how some of you guys analyze issues without depth.

Do you make sense to yourself now?

If they Igbo leave today, and come back to do business in whatever country name, Nigeria bears then...they and their businesses will be JEALOUSLY protected by government both as foreign investment and foreigners...Use MTN, ShopRite etc as example even when Nigerians are being killed in South Africa...

GavelSlam:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/mar/05/the-oil-deal-the-disgraced-minister-and-800m-paid-via-a-uk-bank

Lionel Faull, Ted Jeory, Nick Mathiason and Jamie Doward
Sunday 5 March 2017 07.00 GMT Last modified on Sunday 5 March 2017 16.08 GMT

Britain’s commitment to tackling high-end money laundering through the City of London is under serious scrutiny after it emerged that regulators appear to have waved through an $800m bank transfer to a convicted criminal as the proceeds from one of the most corrupt deals in the history of the oil industry.

A joint investigation by the Observer and journalists from Finance Uncovered, a non-profit organisation based in London, has discovered that prosecutors in Milan believe two payments of $400m each were wired through JP Morgan in London as the spoils of a huge deal to develop a Nigerian oilfield involving Shell, its joint venture partner the Italian oil giant Eni, and the government in Abuja.


More than half the money was converted into bags of bribe cash via bureaux de change in Nigeria, while tens of millions was wired to buy a private jet and armoured cars in the US, according to documents compiled by the prosecutors. But ordinary citizens of Nigeria have not seen a penny from the deal – which, it is alleged, was partly negotiated by two ex-MI6 officers hired by Shell as “business and investment advisers”.

The astonishing allegations have been made by an Italian prosecutor, Fabio de Pasquale, whose previous scalps include former Italian leader Silvio Berlusconi.

De Pasquale and his team have spent more than two years following the money trail surrounding the murky sale of Nigeria’s prized Oil Prospecting Licence 245 (OPL 245), a huge block off the coast of west Africa estimated to contain 9.3bn barrels of crude: enough to power the continent for seven years.

Oil giants from the west, China and Russia have coveted its riches for years. But Shell and Eni eventually prevailed, paying $1.3bn to the Nigerian government to secure the field in 2011.

However, within days the bulk of the money was transferred through JP Morgan in London to a convicted Nigerian money launderer – a man with whom both Shell and Eni had been negotiating.

Fabio de Pasquale
Italian prosecutor Fabio De Pasquale has previously pursued prime minister Silvio Berlusconi through the courts. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images
“The UK authorities have some serious explaining to do,” said Barnaby Pace, a campaigner with the anti-corruption watchdog Global Witness, which has investigated this case for several years.


De Pasquale has carried out raids on Eni offices in Italy and Shell’s headquarters in The Hague that have yielded tens of thousands of documents and emails.

Last month he requested that an Italian court charge 10 individuals, including five high-ranking executives from Eni, with corruption-related offences. Shell, as a corporate entity, was also included in the request, which will be considered by a court in Milan next month. Shell, Eni and all the executives named by De Pasquale strongly deny the allegations.

De Pasquale has also formally warned four former Shell employees, who allegedly played significant roles in securing the deal, that they could be subject to separate proceedings. Among them are Guy Colegate and John Copleston, identified by De Pasquale in legal documents as having “previously worked for MI6”.

Copleston was a “strategic investment adviser” at Shell who, as the UK’s former intelligence representative in Nigeria, had nurtured contacts at the highest levels of the country’s military and government. Colegate worked as a “business adviser”, compiling regular intelligence briefings on the main actors in the OPL 245 negotiations.


As Shell eyed OPL 245, both the CIA and the Foreign Office were aware that Vladimir Putin and Russia were considering trying to snatch Nigerian assets from the west.

The OPL 245 licence had proved particularly elusive. In 1998, Nigeria’s then oil minister, Dan Etete, had awarded it to a shady new company, Malabu Oil and Gas, in which, it later emerged, he held a significant stake.

But after a new president came to power, Malabu lost the licence and it was assigned to Shell. Later the position reversed and Shell began legal proceedings against the Nigerian government.

Etete was convicted in a Paris court in 2007 for his part in a separate money-laundering scandal. But this did not appear to deter Shell and Eni from continuing to court him at luxury hotels in Europe and Nigeria. After one lunch with Etete in 2009 to discuss his asking price for OPL 245, it is reported that Copleston copied Colegate on an email to say it had gone well, helped along by “lots of iced champagne”.

In 2010, negotiations swung Shell’s way when Goodluck Jonathan, an ally of Etete’s, became Nigeria’s president.


The following year, the $1.3bn deal was struck, with Malabu entitled to $1.1bn and the Nigerian government a $210m “signature fee”. Shell and Eni paid the money directly to the Nigerian government.

A fixer involved in the deal described this approach as putting a “condom” between the buyer and seller so that at no point would Shell or Eni make direct payments to Malabu or Etete, who was officially recognised as a criminal. But in May 2011, days after the Nigerian government received the money, its officials instructed JP Morgan to transfer the $1.1bn to an account in Switzerland.

At this point red flags should have been raised in London. Under money-laundering regulations, banks are required to raise Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) for highly unusual transactions, especially involving what are called “politically exposed persons” such as Etete. These reports are raised confidentially with the UK Financial Investigations Unit, which in 2011 was part of the Home Office’s Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca).

Banks are forbidden from confirming whether they have raised SARs, and both JP Morgan and the National Crime Agency – Soca’s successor – have declined to comment on the matter.

However, a source indicated that JP Morgan had raised an SAR as soon as it received the request from Nigeria.


It is understood that the bank would not have proceeded without a green light from Soca.

Well-placed sources offer three possible explanations for why the UK authorities allowed the transfer to go through. Either they saw no problem with it; or they were aware of the money’s provenance but, because the Nigerian government itself saw no corruption, there was little that could be done to secure evidence for a freezing order; or they wanted to track how the funds were disbursed to help gain intelligence.

Whatever the explanation, the transfer immediately ran into difficulties. BSI Lugano, a Swiss bank, rejected the payment, citing Etete’s money-laundering conviction. In August, JP Morgan then made a second attempt via a Lebanese bank to pay the money to Malabu, but this too was rejected. However, a fortnight later the bank was able to transfer the money, in separate tranches of $400m to two Nigerian banks.

Where all of it ended up will probably never be known. De Pasquale alleges that President Jonathan received some of the money, but he denies the claim.

Colegate did not respond to requests for comment. Attempts to reach Copleston were unsuccessful. It was not possible to contact Etete, while Eni declined to comment.

A spokeswoman for Shell said: “Based on our review of the prosecutor’s file and our understanding of the facts, we don’t believe a request for indictment is justified and we are confident that this will be determined in the next stages of the proceedings. We continue to take this matter seriously and cooperate with the authorities.”


Asked about its intelligence-gathering operations, Shell said: “Like most multinational organisations, Shell takes the duty to protect its people, assets and commercially sensitive information seriously and hires those with the most relevant experience to join its corporate security team, including on occasion former government personnel.”

Pace said the scandal highlighted the City of London’s failure to combat money laundering, something that the previous prime minister, David Cameron, had identified as a key priority and which development agencies say is vital if the assets of African countries are not to end up being lost to corruption.

“If we want to stop this kind of deal happening in future, we need to address the system that made it possible,” Pace said. “That means accountability for those that enable corruption in major financial centres like London.”



Also read:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/shells-top-bosses-knew-money-from-13bn-nigerian-oil-deal-would-go-to-convicted-money-launderer-a7676746.html%3Famp

smh

1)Did Jonathan just become president in 2011?

2)What's possibility of winning Etete in court in 1998 on the deal?

3)What evidence showed Jonathan benefited illegally from the deal?

GavelSlam:
He signed the field off barely 1 month in office.

Can you drop a link on the sign off date, let's see the one month and crime therein? Or you just wanna spew trash?

sarrki:
Gej mistakes was when he aligned with the old guard
He was loved by the masses north and south we all felt he was part of us
He messed up the whole thing

And Buhari who you worship aligned with new guard?

docadams:
Oga GEJ, as a former President, you're expected to behave Presidential. We are in a new era that demands that we, as a people, trudge ahead from your era of ingnomy. Please, too many buffoonery of yours need not be exhumed.

After all the grammar, I saw NO POINT...Exhume them, let's shame him together

GavelSlam:
Let us even overlook the elections.
Malabu scandal nko?

So malabu scandal was initiated under Jonathan? Including Halliburton smh

blackpanda:
Speak for yourself. Majority of Nigerians were astounded and repulsed by the level of corruption and greed of gej regime. It was simply unprecedented. Not even abacha looted that much!

For every Kobo you show me that was stolen under Jonathan administration, I will show you ten naira stolen under Buhari...Drop emotion and talk facts !!!

When is the price of commodities coming down too?

maclatunji:
Not on the scale of Igbos dispersed all over Nigeria. Your comparison pales into insignificance.

Shifting goal post? Why not take close look at population of Chinese or Indians outside of their country too? Does it make their country poor and unattractive?

Fabulosdave01:
Lmao. Why is he crying tho? He should blame his region leaders for the failure of the south east. They keep hailing corrupt leaders now they are saying they want to secede. Nigeria needs leaders who will push us towards democracy. Until we come together to elect someone capable nothing good will happen. All these ones ma drama.

Name a politician in Southeast who's worshipped like Tinubu and also as corrupt as Tinubu

maclatunji:
Joe Igbokwe has spoken the truth. How many of those making noise are ready to go settle in the East permanently and come to Lagos or Abuja as foreigners?

Have you ever considered the number of Nigerians today who are also willing to travel elsewhere irrespective of what they would be termed there?

morscino:
Nwoke'm...ignorance is when u have no pt to prove but resort to insult.

I didn't insult anybody...just appalled that a human being could reason that low

morscino:
You obviously never listened to any of his broadcast,if u did,ur position on dis wouldn't be d same.
I am not againt d freedom of any part of Nigeria but not by calling for a genocide on other people.
There are diplomatic steps that can be taken to attain freedom,has Kanu and his ppl taken any?..No...all they do is call other tribes animals and how they would get weapons frm russia and isreal to wipe out non-biafrans.This was why he was arrested,not because he seeks freedom.

Really? Can ignorance be more than this?

yemiprogress:
Only devil knows which school you had attended.Your comment must be stupid than you do.

ok