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Joshthefirst: it tells me human beings like yourself have become self-destructive as they base their rights on selfish instincts that are to be fought against.

What are you going to use to defeat evil me, your hate, foo.lishness or bigotry?

Ihedinobi: So you agree then that Piers was wrong to call the discussant silly for asking if siblings have the right to marry, don't you?

Especially if he asked about brothers, like you did in the op, my answer should be obvious, no?

What an honest op honestly conflating homosex to incest in such a non dubious manner

To add to what has already been said rather well, assuming prohibiting incestuous relationships is unjust, well, obviously two wrongs don't make a right. I enslave mr x therefore it's fine to enslave mr y. Really? (I'm not even sure incest is illegal in most of the world, but meh. The stigma seems to be enough to discourage it. Unlike homosex which has been equally, or even more so, vilified. What does that tell you about homosex?);



And note, I have no issues with incest, polygamy etc. But of course most, atheists well included, disagree with me. And they at times have justified concerns. That's another issue though

Reyginus: No. God is not bound to do good. His nature makes it impossible for him to do evil.

To be BOUND to do anything is to be under a certain law. And if God really is God, then he cannot be under any law.

Erm, stating he isn't bound to any laws is a ...... law

That is ignoring other issues with statements like these, which you guys seem to revel in, then bizzarely, preen...

Eg how could your skydaddy exist before existence existed? There, a law it must kneel to.

1+1=2... Another one

Reyg, you have never known what rubbish is, as far as I can tell. You vastly overestimate your abilities to reason out these sorts of puzzles, so exactly what are you on about? The questions thehomer asks are really simple, so, can you provide straight answers? When you don't, exactly who do you think you're fooling?

Is god subject to reason or is reason subject to god?

^^^

He asks a deep and profound question. Why not address it? He is making your point, no?


Note: do you really think your logic and whining do not qualify as juvenile? As mr troll points out elsewhere, basically all you do is special pleading (and I'll add variations of emotional appeals, but meh)

Genuinely, I do wonder why you feel the need to dress up nonsense with grammar when addressing non-sheeple. Exactly what do you hope to achieve?

You do realize that you are being lampooned because what you post is nonsense, and when it's pointed out to you, all we get is a broken record crying with big english etc etc, yes?

Deep Sight: Merry Christmas.

And to you good ser!

Deep Sight: Indeed, thinking on the above, one might ask oneself if a robot can taste an orange. Or en.joy sex.

And indeed, for the thoughtful and clear-minded, many other very obvious questions spring from these two seemingly simple questions, which absolutely foreclose the position of the strict materialist as arrant and wasteful nonsense.

But in his smug and most thoughtless st.upidity, he laughs at the non-materialist theist.

Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.

No, really, oga DS, you should warn us before you post. Some of us are allergic to BS.

https://www.funnypica.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Funny-Vomit-people-12.jpg

FOLYKAZE: Eating guguru and chilling with fela song titled 'sense wiseness'.

Lol

Are you nourishing your radio as well? You seriously need to attend one of those schools in the link earlier.

Ok, that's it. I hope. Kudos

Thank you op, I've been searching for something like these. Which specific ones could help me? I cannot follow all, that's just too much.

macof: I hope u do same

Indeed, I intend to track down GRRM and have him tell me who'll finally win the Iron Throne. Also, if the Others are all male, what do they do for se.x? These though, are much more important than anything I'll have to ask your baba lawo. But give me his number (or his spiritual number if it works), I shall contact him so I can pay him to tell you PikkiWokki is the way. Seeing his predilection towards N100 fees and whatever he says, oral history included, in other words hearsay, is what you accept as truth...

And nice to see you accept rocks have greater minds than @folly

Eejiots, kudos

FOLYKAZE: Lol. You cant make anything from your head. Is there internet connection in your skull?

I am sick with this your stupidity and arrogance.

Shift to the other side..... I will deal with serious minds. Cheers lol

You do that. Get that rock, or electricity, and have a serious conversation with minds greater than yours.

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=nursery+schools+in+lagos&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=53ywUs-aHc-ShQem74DwCA

Or do you want yoruba only schools?

FOLYKAZE: Cold don stop Wiegraf from swimming along. He only stress his neck and peep the thread. folyKAZE says sorry....but we are not yet in the middle of the ocean where temperature is below zero....

I'm flattered, but I don't think obsessing over me (across how many threads now?) is healthy. No is no, deal with it. I also happen to have a pipi and do not enjoy sausage fests, so all that talk earlier about your wanting me to be 'a man' and address you is misplaced. I'm NOT interested, don't let my sig deceive you. I reserve that space for the most foo.lish thing I read on NL, and for months now I'm yet to come across anything sillier (it's now a record, usually they last a month or two tops)

But do note, even if I were interested it would be impossible. As I've already stated, your conscious rock would do better with any information I threw its way. For instance, while it wouldn't have the tools necessary to note that I highlighted the word 'plant' and analyze that to realize when the word 'something' is used in the definition of 'nourishment' it refers to lifeforms like 'plants', bacteria, heck, even other complex animal life, it wouldn't jump to a foo.lish conclusion. Or would you call one of the maggots in your brain 'someone'?

A rock wouldn't display the stoopidity of not noting that I did point how the word could be used to connote what you wanted, but it's not really appropriate there. Again, because it usually isn't used in that context, it is associated with living beings. To top that you used that word there on purpose; you wanted to convey some sort of biological implications. Therefore you're even being disingenuous when you try to imply otherwise. Or are you not the same person who thinks rocks and electricity are conscious?

That post wasn't even a serious answer to your folly. I was only pointing where you may have had the miniscule glimmer of a point. Let's not even get into Monday to Saturday whargarrbl etc you posted there....

Therefore, genuinely, I will have more success with your conscious rock. It, at least, would not jump to asinine conclusions as is your wont, through your history on NL.

Ah, I just wasted more time.... That's as much time as I can spare for folly. Make your way to one of these if you need more lessons in logic

sheikh usman: my name is mallam sheikh usman sedik.....i specialize in helping people spiritually and physically....ao if you are by any chance facing any kind of spritual attach or oppression, depreaaion or any other form....you can just contact me through facebook with mallam sheikh usman sedik.....or you can call me 08149198447.......thank you for the corporation am waiting for you

This is what I'm looking for oga, however, I found your FB page and it seems you just joined that network this morning, which is just a little suspicious.

If you're a true professional I need not tell you how serious this situation is, and you would therefore understand my concern (which is mostly security, of course). For instance, you could be an agent of the devil working with the spirits to steal my soul or simply a charlatan. I would therefore appreciate it if you provided more proof of your expertise before I contact you.

Can you please give me an account of an older spiritual case you've solved sir? Or provide some insight into what exactly the spirit that is trying to possess me wants?

Thank you

Also, I see you're involved with this movement

https://www.facebook.com/pages/People-Who-Need-Spiritual-Help/192253280818375?ref=profile

If your work is genuine, good work sir!

@all, see, muslims are much nicer.... Though xtians like muskeeto and Mee234 are helping. Thanks you two, I'll get back to you

macof: @Wiegraf, I am surprised u don't know that everything is conscious including Matter.

This shows how ur atheism is a fake, because ur master scientists bosses know this

The day you're capable of following my thought processes I'll jump off a cliff.

FOLYKAZE: Rock is conscious.

https://dogs.redmilkmagazine.com/files/2013/07/shocked_animals_4.jpg

FOLYKAZE: Seriously? Lets check your definition pls


Is something necessarily used for living things? You fall my hand big time. Lol

This definition?

google: nourishment

ˈnʌrɪʃm(ə)nt/

noun

noun: nourishment
1.
the food necessary for growth, health, and good condition.
"tubers from which [size=15pt]plants[/size] obtain nourishment"
the action of nourishing someone or something.

Not to mention......

FOLYKAZE: If you got brain....you will see how embarrassing you are. Lol


Have asked you simple question but you ignored it. 'I have feed my eye'. Does that statement mean my eye have teeth and tongue? Why cant you use your brain? Answer me if you are a real man.

..Let me quote myself, and not so long ago as well

me: The only place you have a sliver of a case is the 'nourishment' issue, and even then barely a sliver. That word is usually associated with living beings

And let me do it again

me: No, captain clueless, I do not want to do that, thank you. That's clearly a waste of time, no?

folly: cry me a river baby. Lol. You are calling on nnofaith.....let him dance to the tune I played for him. I will beat the drum to your own satisfaction.




Look into my face baby. Stop calling crowd on yourself.

How in the world do you come to this conclusion? And, again

me: And are you trying to pass yourself as cool and level headed?

folly: *when you come with something better, call on me.

I would have better luck getting across to your conscious rock. But thank you for doing your best to confirm everything I posted

Deep Sight: I have never said that the universe was built just for humans.



Good, I see you have already corrected yourself, so I don't have to.

Nevertheless those were still not my words.

Then, good ser, kindly explain what the purpose of this matter/spirit/whatever, which isn't mindless according to you, was when creating this universe

Deep Sight: That has always been the most fundamental element of the definition of God from the dawn of time.

And how does this address the fact that you yourself change this definition with the seasons? For instance, here's the definition you just gave

YOU: namely that it (god) is the pre existent cause.

Where in this definition is there an allusion to 'god' being conscious as a requirement? You did state in the very same post that thinking this pre existent cause was/is not conscious is "wilfully deluded and insane", no? So, how is this your definition of god?

Deep Sight: I should ignore it, because atheism is not defined as a disbelief in the existence of Yahweh. It is a disbelief in the existence of God.

No offense, oga, but one can't help but think you're being disingenuous. It is a disbelief in the existence of supernatural gods, deities, etc. The supernatural. The definition you gave above does not in anyway contradict an atheistic stance.

So, again, when we address god, we're addressing supernatural definitions. And mostly, clearly, yahweh. Simply because it's the most supported notion in our environment.

There's a chicken and egg problem that could perhaps be settled amongst pipul here. Does curiosity bring success, or does success bring about curiosity?

Maybe both sides have a point? Is there a balance to achieve then, and is space too much just for now? Should we take baby steps first, learn how to walk properly, before we attempt climbing mountains or just forge on? If there's gold at its summit, can we afford to spend all our time at its base when the booty at the top could solve many of our problems, etc etc

Deep Sight: Nevertheless, I should tell you that any world view that renders matter or non living particles as the source of world and mind, is thoughtless in the extreme, and I would even say wilfully deluded and insane.

You may not know the meaning of deluded. Holding that this universe was put together just for you I would say fits much, much more with the actual meaning. It's like a grain of sand thinking the milky way was put together just for it.

In before you shift and say it was put together to support carbon based life, not necessarily us. Really?

And, of course, the obligatory definition of what 'god' means this month, and your willfully ignoring the conspicuous fact that most people here are addressing yahweh when they speak of 'god'

Mee234: try them.

Details abeg, which are the most popular in kadunoh? Do I need to do anything before seeing them, eg visiting a bank, getting a lobotomy, etc?

Mee234: cele church to go seek help.

Can they help me?

obadiah777: https://funny.funnyoldplanet.com/files/2009/04/padlock-slipper-fail.jpg

You're not taking me seriously. How is padlock supposed to stop something spiritual?

For instance, if Mary had been padlocked, wearing a chastity belt, would that have stopped the Holy Spirit from doing his thing?

And don't forget spirit does not walk, it floats. So the padlock will not hinder it's movement sef

Abeg shift and allow people with serious answers to respond. You don't care because it isn't happening to you or a loved one, abi? Wicked

FOLYKAZE: *kindly answer my questions if you want me to swim down with you in this.

Yes, captain obvious, I have to reply before you can "sit down" with me.

No, captain clueless, I do not want to do that, thank you. That's clearly a waste of time, no?

The irony of you claiming you do not want to run around in circles then posting that..... I don't know what to call it sef. The only place you have a sliver of a case is the 'nourishment' issue, and even then barely a sliver. That word is usually associated with living beings

google: nourishment
ˈnʌrɪʃm(ə)nt/
noun
noun: nourishment

1.
the food necessary for growth, health, and good condition.
"tubers from which plants obtain nourishment"
the action of nourishing someone or something.

See? Or are you saying that, for instance, electricity falls sick?

And are you trying to pass yourself as cool and level headed? After that nonsense retort to nnofaith above?


@all, somewhat related, a video highlighting how being openminded and (very importantly) critical works. Sure, I know most of you know this, but I'll leave it here regardless for those that may not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

ATMC: goodluck in ur search. #just for the records...the kind christians are thar way 'cos the holy spirit 'touched' them***deal with it***

That's true. A kind xtian is an oxymor.on. Thanks for pointing that out

Deep Sight: It is.

It is a denial of basic laws. Such as the laws of cause and effect and the laws of motion and thermodynamics.



....Which cosmic variables of course just exist, abracadabra!

You spout nonsense with such confidence, it's like a gift.

Before you whine, abeg, show how atheism is the bolded.

ATMC: oh! were yhu expecting help from christians? lol yhu must be discombobulated. Go seek help from ur own...or are they without help in 'matters like this'?

I will not forget this.... You want the spirit to touch me.... Have you met people that have been touched by the holy spirit? Do they look sane to you? You're trying to turn me into a sheeple abi??

Spirit touching you is not a good thing, clearly....

Hopefully there are kind xtians out there that will help me....

Manhunter™:
How can Christians think that this story is ridiculous?
If this is ridiculous then where do we place the bible stories?

I tire. They are laughing at me and telling me to tie the slippers to my waist? So the spirit will have to move me aside to get to it?? Would you want a spirit touching you?!

Because I'm an atheist, they don't care. Wickedness...

So, rocks are conscious? In what sense, to a degree where it matters to us? That is, they are self aware?? Not to mention prayers and what not?? And energy requires dog heads to manipulate them. Note, 'them', not 'it', as they seem endowed with personality..

There is a need to not get carried away with pure nonsense in these stories, even if they make you feel good. Leave those in the history, literature, philosophy etc classes, like the stories of zeus, yahweh et al.

They are not, in any shape or form, what one could consider good science. We might as well let yahweh in, no difference.

The water cycle is in the bible, koran got 'cannot mix water and oil', life originating from your balls, etc blah blah, right, no? That's excellent science right there.

And note, just like the other religions, falsify a claim here and it becomes a metaphor, or sophistry (if that) is employed; the bible didn't mean six literal days, more like six different epochs, spirits don't require sacrifice, they require nourishment.

Really? Lightning requires nourishment?

You're simply seeing non existant patterns, frankly. We do this to make sense of our lives, but do NOT excuse this as good science

"This sentence is false"

^^ Most popular version.

Now, there are, apparently, basics which cannot be proven within (note; within that particular framework, it could perhaps be proven from another framework) any sort of logical framework. These are basic assumptions which one just has to accept as a 'truth', but they still remain unverifiable or illogical. This is called [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems]incompleteness[/url] mathematically. Now, that is waaaaay beyond me, but perhaps my point is somewhat related.

Eg, supposing I say everything must evolve and change with time, that ignores the fact that the rule "everything must evolve" does not evolve. Note, this is a trollish example, as 'everything' here means physical, not absolute mathematical truths or ideas, but this example should do. You accept the rule "everything must evolve" despite the fact that that is contradictory.

I'll think up better examples, but for folk who state there's no way something can from nothing in this universe, you could be neglecting the full story. Simply, that something cannot come from nothing in this universe except.....the universe itself.

A simple take this is