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MonsieurCoder: Chatted with a guy on facebook today and he admitted that this section has deconverted him from christianity. He is in the skeptic/Agnostic path now. The ministry is movingI do know a few new ids that are old ids, and I'm surely not the only one that knows a few of these. For the most part we don't really do much, you can't force someone to believe in something (except of course, brainwashing...). So when people formerly ignorant are confronted with stuff they were unaware of the rest comes naturally, inevitably. That's not even why I'm here most of the time, I simply want them to keep their nonsense out of government, and you need to tackle their beliefs in order to do that |
Deep Sight: Oh lord.. I have editted a post above again instead of doing a new post. This always happens when using the damn phone. Will correct 2mmoro. Later folks. Be good. ![]() Really brave Take your sweet, good time. And get that mirror |
Deep Sight: Lol. Scaredy catty.I've already addressed this, many times. I likely wouldn't, but again, just my subjective stance. I hope you aren't a mo.ron that requires I repeat myself, explaining something so simple over and over and over...... Now you, brave one, address this me: Ok, so god being a member of another species has a different set of values. He decides we failed to achieve his objectives, and proceeds to flood the earth killing everyone save the most sheepish, slavish follower he could find. Genocide, at least of our species. Are you now saying that god's actions are objectively, universally good? |
Glad to see you all talking about opinions Well done, you're beginning to get it |
Joshthefirst: ^^^Do you actually think you've tossed some sort of curve ball with this nonsense? Are you asking for my opinion? |
onyfrank: All atheists believe inWhen I first read that, I thought it was the other frank being sarcastic. Then it dawned on me.. |
Deep Sight: You should even ask yourself about the question - whose subjectivity within the society?erm, this has already been addressed. Again, the stronger will(s). Simple. Regardless of whatever colorful big grama you may want to spin, no matter how you wrap your diarrhea in chocolate wrappings, it still remains $hit. This is an obvious truth. You're simply doing what millions have done before, claim 'god' is on their side and use that to impose your will on others. Perhaps you should start writing your bible and telling us how homosexuality is evil because you think pipis should only be stuck in vagoos? Same $hit. And again, there is absolutely nothing intrinsically wrong with any position morally (bolded, just in case you think I'm stuttering, as you seem bent or repeating this ad nauseam). Doesn't mean I have to support all positions though as I do have my own will, see? Deep Sight: Your world view on this matter, with due respect, is a veritable cascade of pitiful, lamentable, perverse, and even morally bankrupt contradictions which evince a wholesale lack of ethics or ethical consideration whatsoeverAs for contradictions, you really need to get that mirror. You do know if it were objective we wouldn't even be having this discussion. You'd just show me your x*y=xy and anyone anywhere in the universe would simply confirm it, yes? Your morality is objective yet it relies on what people feel? Or is it what the collective feels, and you call that objective?? What is wrong with you? Do tell who decides what these objective moral set is for us all then?? Not to mention, you seem to think the universe revolves around us humans... Or is it skydaddy and humans? Ok, so god being a member of another species has a different set of values. He decides we failed to achieve his objectives, and proceeds to flood the earth killing everyone save the most sheepish, slavish follower he could find. Genocide, at least of our species. Are you now saying that god's actions are objectively, universally good? You do realize we humans do exactly the same thing, all the time, to other species?? And it is clearly unavoidable. You of the holier than thou, put a lid on it. It's silly. As for my "lack of ethics" etc, that's your subjective opinion, see? |
Joshthefirst: maybe you should have told him this earlier instead of trying to link everything to your harsh sarcasm?Do you know what sarcasm is genius? ^sarcasm, see? |
YcBeat: .........still hopeful........thanksNo op, that was nonsense. I was simply telling you what you wanted to hear, in exchange I could have asked for tithes or something similar. No gods anywhere, can't see anyone around. Keep doing what you do, work harder than the next guys, keep your eyes open, etc, and it might work out. Sadly though, in this universe there's no absolute way of guaranteeing success. You can simply increase the odds with hardwork and brains. There's no magic except that. Good luck. |
A society's moral code is in no way absolute or objective, it's simply that society's subjective code. S-i-m-p-l-e Just making that clear |
Op, don't you have faith in God? Don't worry He has a plan for everyone and everything. All this suffering you may be enduring, all the chaos around you, can you not see the signs in your life of changes? Look well and I'm sure you will see them, little miracles everywhere. So have faith, keep working hard e tc, and God's plan for you will succeed |
rationalmind: Another thought provoking, intellectual write up from the most intelligent theist on nairaland.Josh certainly has something to say about that |
Image123: Can God feed more than 5000 people with a small lad's five loaves? Can God produce rivers of water from a stone? i thought Ihe alreeady answered something along this lines? Should God be a slave?So, that's a yes? |
striktlymi: Oga wieg....tuwale sir.Smart only with a few tasks, overall I still remain an a$$ mostly. Just a few days earlier and we'd be birthday mates btw. Us early saggis are the chosen ones. May you have many more ever so politely iconoclastic years to come. |
NativeBoy: I will not respond to any other parts of your post in respect of the OPs wishes. I will only answer your direct question pertaining to societies where incest is common. Look up the Appalachians in America. Also called Hillbillies.That's the only 'direct' question you noticed? Bros, you already opened that can of worms, don't cop-out now. Besides, thread is dead, this is mostly my childishness harassing your silliness at the moment. So please, indulge. As for hillbillies, really? You note how the oyinbo man typically holds them up as the bastion of all that is good and beautiful about the west, yes? |
DAVID!! I can't help but note that you have so bravely avoided defending your beliefs against us cowardly atheists for the last few pages, while barking your typical illogical nonsense. But that's not what brings me here, kind polite ser, I would like your opinion on this thread, if you will. You approve of the science, no? In before you ignore me because I may have been 'rude' to you before. Really??! lol... |
aManFromMars: linkHumans, we greedy martian. Even genes we do not want to share... |
NativeBoy: To respect the OPs wishes, I will stay out if this thread, but I would not let macof get away with his comment. It is a fundamental error some make. Just because something is documented in the bible doesn't mean it is endorsed by God.You should have done that rather than clown around, as I've not heard of this oyinbo communities that endorse incest. Also, please show how the often portrayed as blue eyed yet Jewish but definitely white Jesus was the god of your ancestors. And I've not been abroad for quite some time, though true, I do admire bits of their culture. Actually, I admire bits from any and every culture, as I don't look at skin color. That's really foo.lish |
Logicboy03: Guy, how the hell am I supposed to answer datThe fear, lb, is that I'll have to endure more 'solid' points if we continue. Anyways, first off, are you saying it's impossible to respect your opponent, let alone someone you're indifferent to? Really? Next 2 != 4, true, but where did anybody state they were? What was stated is they're both even numbers, and the laws should be applied for all even numbers, simple. The only case for criminalizing it has already been dealt with; the genetic issues. Again, those ate not guaranteed, see the Ptolemy family for instance, or the various pedo dads caught every once in a while. I believe Cleopatra was even hawt. So even with direct incest peoblems dont tend to show up immediately. See small island Communities or even slightly bigger eg Iceland, for less direct cases. Or dog breeds, not all ate unhealthy, no? After they reach a certain mass even the unhealthy breeds lose many of the issues, but they have to get to that mass first. So, again, consistency. Are you also going to prevent say sicklers from having kids? Or what of those that breed like rabbits irresponsibly? Do we go the way of China (they won't arrest you there sef, they'll tax you heavily though). Bottom line is who now draws the line dictating the kind of children you're allowed to birth? At the extreme levels, do we ban dwarfs or even black man? Some think us inferior, no? We don't treat human beings like tools and afford them certain rights when we can for various reasons, mostly our value system. We also (generally) try to be fair and consistent. Note, I personally would support punishing irresponsible parenting in general, but that's another issue. Unhealthy dog breeds sef I'd push for a ban, as I don't see why bring in a being in pain just for mostly entertainment purposes. Mobile browser is a chore to use, so I'll leave it at that, for now. And really, it should be just enough. |
MonsieurCoder: So you believe dinosaurs existed? ![]() |
Joshthefirst: I consider footage of a dinosaur becoming a bird as evidence.Here https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2506/4393135889_becb0dc9d7.jpg https://jakartass.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/CrocoDuck.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2578/3764931558_c4f756e76c.jpg https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/018/352/541px-Crocoduck-painting.jpg Other similar species include https://i.imgur.com/tGdV3.jpg https://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/418/417164/gm_bigcity0021.jpg https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XLyftkN55Pk/hqdefault.jpg [img]http://3.bp..com/-zmC9p5Uev_Y/Tl-2h6mq1QI/AAAAAAAAAPM/vHOC9EB0veo/s1600/tippo.jpg[/img] And if you still aren't satisfied [img]http://3.bp..com/-0w1ZR52iNMU/TouSgeMRhFI/AAAAAAAABf8/-qG_Bb6ztcw/s1600/cd.gif[/img] Hope it helps |
Joshthefirst: prescence of conscience. Prescence of visible creation.This is what deep sight causes with his shenanigans. Sad part is any potential minions with any sort of functional brain can spot the folly from a long, long way off. You have to be particularly stoopid to not spot it. Even an onyfrank would be slightly weary. Only the finest eediots take it to heart, then engage thinking they now have a 'point'. We're therefore left with having to deal with the likes of josh while that troll drinks stout somewhere... |
Happy buhday!! |
I'd tell them to stone to death anyone that ate swine or shellfish though. That $hit is nasty |
I wouldn't tell people to boil their water. Nothing wrong with drinking dirty untreated water. Just don't annoy the spirits |
Logicboy03: How silly. I never argued that because he is an atheist he must believe something...Lb, in what logical framework are these 'solid points'? |
Image123: i actually do not understand your question. If you are asking if God is reasonable, then yes. If you are asking if God is a slave of reason, then no.Bros, logic 101, you can't be reasonable without being a 'slave' to reason to reason. This is really simple. OK, can god make 1+1=3, yes or no pls? |
aManFromMars: My grandmom has been flogging her 50 yr old son for stealing a piece of meat in 1982.And there's no moral relativity, they said |
Deep Sight: Ohhhhh! I see now! That's actually exactly what happened!No vex a beg, I was too hasty with that. Similar folly has actually led to wars..... And disaster has been averted using similar tricks actually... See JFK Ah yes, this is random nonsense Looking forward to the thread |
This thread, I approve Ihe, your folly still demands attention I don't guns or even knives, my words should be more than enough Hyar4rrr4ttrtrrrr |
Logicboy03: Some atheists are truly funny.....you are indifferent towards gay marriage but then you would respect a community that opposes it.Contrary to whatever silly ideas you have in your head, we are not a religion, cult or whatever, so I fail to see where the problem is with differences of opinion. One simple thing binds us. Posting as if there's some doctrine we're supposed to follow. Adults want to stick pipis in each other, lazy or otherwise, how's that you business again? Risks of inbreeding do not show up until generations pass, and even if. Ask cleopatra or any small secluded island population (though other things could come into play in this situation). Not to mention, do we treat people like tools now? Here to make only babies you find acceptable? Gays can't even make babies, so what exactly is your problem? Anal sex is also more likely to lead to AIDS, see? Let's get rid of them as well. This is another one of those cases where you don't give a $hit as it does not personally affect you, or it impacts whatever agenda you have negatively. Not cool |
Uyi Iredia: Okay. So we let adult males stick their sticks down your black ar$€. Then we let em stick it through, I dunno, your mouth. Then they have another random with some folks they see on the street irregardless of age, gender or $€x. CoolGoot, goot. This is more like uyi I know. The embodiment of senselessness. |
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