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Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 10:46pm On May 02, 2016
Reyginus:
Come on, are you not happy? These guys inspired a lot of persons and would still inspire more. You just can't hate on them. Pop Champagne or Palm Wine.
I fear for the people of leicester. Plenty heart attack tonight
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 10:44pm On May 02, 2016
swaggzo:

.....FROM BIRTH.
LORD KNOWS HOW SMELLY THEY FATTY ASSS CAN BE MOST TIMES!
Lucky you.

We straightfolk do have to put up with a lot of $hit from these females, I tell you.
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 10:16pm On May 02, 2016
Na wa for leicester.....
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 10:14pm On May 02, 2016
swaggzo:

I'M GAY.
Did she just make you gay? And that quickly??
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 6:23am On Apr 19, 2016
DeepSight:
just as you know very well I am no Christian.
you're no xtian the same way john travolta's no gay?
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 12:34pm On Apr 18, 2016
DeepSight:
Good point. However the sickness of creating a "church" of Flying spaghetti monsters for the purpose of jocularly mocking a church of an alleged human sacrifice for the atonement of sins - and incorporating same, does transcend all levels of sickness.
you can't even get your facts right: there's only one monster. let go of the hate, my good xtian, and enjoy the pasta
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 11:02pm On Apr 17, 2016
Reyginus:
That it's right because it's right?
ok. i find it's right because meatballs are delicious
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 10:40pm On Apr 17, 2016
Reyginus:
By now you should know I don't let people escape so easily. Tell me, why do you like it?
dear me, can you not read?
PoliticsRe: Federal Government May Soon Ban Christian And Muslim Prayers At Pub Functions by wiegraf: 10:35pm On Apr 17, 2016
op, your sauce? abi do you work at the orientation agency?
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 10:19pm On Apr 17, 2016
CoolUsername:
BLASPHEMY!!!

Lord FSM isn't intimidated by homosexuality, His Noodliness accepts all!
he even loves the haters, and boils for their sins all the time
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 10:17pm On Apr 17, 2016
Reyginus:
Because it isn't wrong? What is this?
what it is. you haven't told me what is wrong, so not sure what you want. it is 2 people wanting to join in holy macaroni and doing so. i believe it is right for people to have such unions for legal reasons at the very least, and the symbolism helps some people sleep at night. so, once again, what exactly is wrong with that?
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 7:24pm On Apr 17, 2016
Reyginus:
Tell me why you think what they are doing is right?
because it isn't wrong. this is a bit like asking me why do i think some people prefer the color blue. show me exactly what is wrong with it and perhaps i can help you further
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 4:48pm On Apr 17, 2016
johnydon22:
^^^ It is a religion, sick i agree but as sick as others
don't listen to that confused soul. i believe he was raised on moi moi and fish, therefore he harbors a lot of irrational, tribalistic hate for pasta. even as his noodliness, fsm, loves him unconditionally
Christianity EtcRe: First FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 4:41pm On Apr 17, 2016
Reyginus:
Wiegraf why do you think they are doing the right thing?
why not?
Christianity EtcFirst FSM Wedding Evah! Rejoice! by wiegraf(op): 1:54pm On Apr 17, 2016
ABC: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: 'Noodly knot' tied in religion's first legal wedding

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster has held its first legally recognised marriage, with the offbeat movement hailing the New Zealand ceremony as a world-first milestone toward acceptance.

Church adherents call themselves pastafarians, wear colanders on their heads, revere pirates and believe the world was created by a deity made of spaghetti.

But while they have a love of pasta-based puns and celebrate holidays such as "Talk Like a Pirate Day", followers insist their religion is no joke.

New Zealand officials agreed, and gave Wellington-based pastafarian Karen Martyn the legal right to conduct marriages last month after ruling the church was based on genuine philosophical convictions.

Ms Martyn conducted her inaugural wedding as an ordained "ministeroni" on Saturday, when Toby Ricketts and Marianna Young became the first couple in the world to "tie the noodly knot" in a legally recognised ceremony.

"It's a formal recognition that we are a church and that's just great," Ms Martyn said ahead of the ceremony.

She said many more weddings were planned, including same-sex unions, which were legalised in New Zealand in 2013.

"I've had people from Russia, from Germany, from Denmark, from all over contacting me and wanting me to marry them in the church because of our non-discriminatory philosophy.

"We will marry any consenting legal adults who meet the legal requirement."

Church arose as protest against 'intelligent design' in schools

The wedding took place on a charter vessel decorated as a pirate ship at the South Island town of Akaroa, with guests dressed in costume.

Mr Ricketts, a filmmaker who discovered pastafarianism while making a documentary about religion, said he knew some people may not take the marriage seriously.

"That's kind of what attracted us to it," he said. "We were never planning to get married and have a conventional wedding, but this allowed us to do it in a way that we're comfortable … our families are 100 per cent behind us."

Pastafarianism first appeared in a 2005 open letter written by Bobby Henderson to the Kansas Board of Education in protest over its decision to teach intelligent design — a form of creationism promoted by Christian fundamentalists — in schools.

Mr Henderson, 36, a self-described "hammock enthusiast" and computer nerd from Oregon, is regarded as the prophet of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM).

He argued that believing a pasta god made the universe was no less valid than intelligent design as both theories had no scientific merit.

"New Zealand is one of the few places that has formally recognised us," he said.


But not all are happy with the decision, including Professor Peter Lineham, a religious history specialist at New Zealand's Massey University.

"I am not at all convinced there's a genuine statement of values (in the church)," he told Fairfax New Zealand when the original decision was handed down.

Ms Martyn disputes that view, saying a strong belief system underpinned FSM.

"We are anti-discrimination on any basis for any reason, and we truly believe there should be a complete separation of church and state," she said.

"We believe in challenging ourselves and other religions and challenging cultural superstitions … we're very serious about our beliefs."

In November American woman Lindsay Miller, who identifies as a member of FSM, won the right to wear a colander in her driver's licence photo.

But in December, the church's application for incorporation as a not-for-profit organisation was rejected by the South Australian commissioner for corporate affairs.

FSM is planning to launch an appeal to that decision in the District Court.

Key points:

NZ ruled in March that the church was based on genuine philosophical convictions
Wedding marks world's first legal marriage by a pastafarian ministeroni
FSM's prophet argues that believing a pasta god made the universe is no less valid than Christianity's intelligent design
http://abc7ny.com/society/new-zealand-hosts-worlds-first-ever-pastafarian-wedding-on-pirate-boat/1295308/
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 1:48pm On Apr 17, 2016
Reyginus:
You think what they are doing is right?
YES

Edit: info
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 12:34pm On Apr 17, 2016
Reyginus:
What happened?
you an ordinary seaman and no pirate it seems. in simple speak, it was a wedding officiated by the church of fsm. we finally have that right, but in just the one country. google it, too lazy to link on this gongoni phone
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 3:51am On Apr 17, 2016
so today, the first legal union in holy macaroni took place somewhere in new zealand. may i see the day when i can do so in naija, ramen
Christianity EtcRe: Is The Universe Purely "Material" & "Physical"? by wiegraf: 8:09pm On Apr 16, 2016
Ayomikun37:
This is a question that has always bothered me ever since the advent of my atheism... Is the universe really all about the physical alone? Is it possible that everything can be explained through empirical and physical means? Is MIND a product of MATTER or is it the other way round? Which sounds more probable? How reasonable and credible is the materialistic position? What do you think of Robert Lanza's concept of Biocentric Universe which holds that [size=16]Consciousness "creates" the universe and not the other way round?[/size] How credible do you think this is? Does it contain any element of truth? WHAT DO YOU THINK?
it has zero credibility, except as philosophical blah blah
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 9:08pm On Apr 14, 2016
Reyginus:
Come on, even when it's obvious I'm from Greece? My reputation should throw enough wine to last you nine lifetimes.
my 'hic' shuperiors were spheshific! dey said 'hic' 'wiewie! don't let no damn greek in, eshpecialy one with a wooden horse fihled with seamen!'.... dish is good booze brah
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 7:41pm On Apr 14, 2016
Reyginus:
I pledge my Allegiance to Poseidon and I Came with some Seamen.
kind of suspicious there, seeing as they're in a big wooden horse... however, throw in a couple of gulders and i'll let you in
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 7:09pm On Apr 14, 2016
Asatartanin:
Yes, I'm here. Non christian smiley
state your allegience
Christianity EtcRe: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by wiegraf: 5:04pm On Apr 14, 2016
abeg, deepsight, you think you've made sense? oya, for starters, explain to me how homosexuality is, according to you, objectively immoral. thanks
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 4:44pm On Apr 12, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
Nice shirt though.
I see you approve?
Christianity EtcRe: "How Large Was Noah's Ark?" by wiegraf:
Image123:
Do you also doubt the flood? Answer the simple question plainly. i do not know about any planet krypton or its facts.
fact is Krypton is Superman's home planet.

I thought you were well versed with myths....


Image123:
Good to see you realize only kids believe in superman, and that old people believe the Bible.
Oga, you claim to be an adult but your comprehension skills are atrocious. Even a kindergartner would have noted I did not state that

Image123:
The only area giving you jerks is the educated part. When i refer to most educated, i was referring to the size or percentage, not necessarily to the height of education. i do not have statistics on educated people and their faiths. It is however common knowledge that universities, colleges and schools are littered with theists both as teachers and as students. in very day life, we meet successful people, CEOs, top level managers, Drs etc that are theists, whether christian or otherwise.
What exactly does giving one jerks entail? Is this some sort of Freudian slip? However, I'll ignore this and not ask for clarification, as I'm something of an adult (even if more a manchild) and can reasonably deduce what you meant to say.....

Now; 1000 years ago, most of the 'educated' world, this world filled with sundry and successful people, believed the world flat. Only the educated elite knew better.

Do I need to spell my point out more clearly?

Image123:
It is with this COMMONSENSE that i repeat that most educated men believe in the Bible.
And even at that, this is likely incorrect. It's at best, 50/50.

this is no pedantry, as you seem to have a view only of your backyard. It might be just me, but, and for obvious reasons (I hope), I think it important that people at least try and understand the world out there, and realize that their ways are not the only way to do things.

Roughly 50% of the planet is not judeoxtian.

there are, for instance, over a billion unaffiliated (including atheists, mostly thanks to china). And even at that, among the judeoxtians out there, quite a few of them will join me in wondering just how in the world supposed adults believe these things. they don't believe the bible is literal, or at least the more fantastical bits of it (which is almost all of it, I believe, so you do wonder why they remain xtian). they cherry pick what they choose to believe, it helps them resolve their cognitive dissonance to a degree. So your claim that most educated (and you have to define what you mean by educated, but meh) people believe in the bible, especially literally, is highly debatable.

that said, kudos to you and olaa for sticking with your guns and going all the way with your beliefs, unlike those pussyfooters.

or at least kudos to olaa, who perhaps grasps just how ridiculous his beliefs are, but sticks to them despite the ridicule. You, on the other hand, I get the feels is concerned with image and reputation, and seem to genuinely think you've sided with the more 'respectable' group. somehow that's important.....


Image123:
Samson was a superhuman because he was UNCOMMONly empowered by God's Holy Spirit for the deliverance of Israel. He was a miracle, just like the dividing of the Red Sea, or the disappearance of kidney problem and HIV, to the glory of God. Superman is an entertainer, for children cartoons.
smiley

thanks for that

what of thor the Norse god? He's also in comic books, I understand

https://www.zianet.com/donaghe/Saturday/samson-03.jpg
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 12:16am On Apr 12, 2016
Christianity EtcRe: So, When Will Computers Have Souls? by wiegraf(op): 12:01am On Apr 12, 2016
TheHarbinger:
You're somehow correct. The soul; the collection of the mind, will, emotions...


Your mind has a voice, it is the voice reading this words to you. The voice of your thoughts and imagination. The center of your creativity and genius.

The real you, the immaterial you, has a soul.
How does one spot and identify this soul?

As for what it is responsible for; bear in mind that many people thought no computer would defeat human go champions so soon because it required a great deal of - creativity and genius - to do so. More so than has been displayed by any other AI to date .

Note that alphago also happens to be billed as essentially multi-purpose in theory, even if it has been optimized to specialize in go, and is inspired by biological brains. So, it's in effect a proof of concept of how biological machines can attain creativity and genius.

When you have a natural avenue to research for these answers, exactly why invoke the supernatural?

And are you sure you are Jtf? You weren't totally ret.arded in the other thread, so a bit suspicious.....
Christianity EtcRe: Death by wiegraf: 7:03am On Apr 11, 2016
Another befuddling fact is the religious loves to claim that we, who don't assume the universe revolves around us, are the selfish ones

Many even suggest that we should accommodate their fantasies because it makes them feel better

DOHOHOHOHO

Ok, but what if, for instance, you saw a kid bullying another kid because he didn't get an xmas present? the bully reasoning that the kid didn't get any presents because he was bad and therefore deserving of some punishment?

you might want to consider telling the little bully santa doesn't exist, no? Let alone adults....

Aye, how selfish of us for pointing this out! We've now ruined xmas for everyone!!
Christianity EtcRe: So, When Will Computers Have Souls? by wiegraf(op): 10:44pm On Apr 10, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
You tried go? Or you suck at that too. tongue
Worse than my chess actually...
Christianity EtcRe: So, When Will Computers Have Souls? by wiegraf(op): 10:27pm On Apr 10, 2016
TheHarbinger:
what do you think a soul is?
there was a reply to this thread? I thought y'all steered clear from it...

Can you give us your definition please? I think the some soul is some magical substance that is supposed to gives us sentience, free will, etc.
Christianity EtcRe: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by wiegraf: 10:13pm On Apr 08, 2016
Reyginus:
I mean my idea of who is corrupt is not who stole more but whose actions and words are more immoral. Corruption is bigger than stealing.
that seem like a rather large net, but yes, corruption is not just stealing (gej, that's what you should have said). i would say abusing your powers for selfish needs = corruption
Christianity EtcRe: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by wiegraf: 10:06pm On Apr 08, 2016
PastorAIO:
Can you make another daft statement that is even stupider than this one? If you can I'll give you a prize.
he is correct though. in the battle of wills yours stands firmly against god's. well, at least yahweh's smiley he, of course, remains a slave

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