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i saw a thread this morning that other world leader has doubles. Does that means it is legal ![]() |
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what then happened to the real baba who knows, what do i know? |
Methink No 6 though. |
WHICH OF THESE SEEM AWKWARD?
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bezimo:this is actually the problem of most followers they are easily brainwashed and are bitter and irritated when you show them the truth. winners will tell you about consecration as one of the 12 pillars of the ministry but will not tell you about where you will spend your life after death which is the core pillar of Christianity or any other religion. If winners preaches true holiness, how come if I am a lady I can come into the congregation of worshipers, dressed in any form of seductive apparel, yet I dont go back home with any form of conviction that my seductive dressing can make other people to backslide if truly those people who worship there are holy and righteous? well winners will always tell you part of the truth and not the whole truth. |
awoluyi:My brother that is what the new generation churches have turned Christianity into. as a matter of fact, Many of those folks in winners who have not known what true Christianityis and are too naive to search it out for themselves believes that Heaven is here on earth only when you have money and material possession and this is one of the greatest deception of our age being propagated by Bishop David Oyedepo. I use to be among those many folks who would argue till death in defence of that 'man of God' until i went to Deeper Life and found out that that 'Man of God' works on our psychology keeping us as a perpetual slave of his ministery by giving us a false hope achieving all of our desires and having dominioin on the earth. Friend, If you read through the temptation of Jesus Christ after His wilderness experience, you will find out that those same bait that the Devil threw at Jesus is the same bait that Oyedepo uses in keeeping people to be perpetually under him. the truth has to be told because If good men keep quiet then evil will prevail. 1. Satan told Jesus that he will give him all the riches of the world, Oyedepo preaches to his congregation that prosperity is his calling and tha prosperity is their heritage in Christ, negating the fact that Jesus came to earth to die for our sins and not just to create an economic perfect order. Just yesterday in this thread Oyedepo is being quoted as soon to be greater in wealth than both IMF and World bank. Rather than he making his boast in producing rapturable saints, his major boasting is in having great material gains which the Bible refers to as filthy Lucre 2. Satan told Jesus too bow before him and he will give him dominion over all the kingdom of the worlds, one of Oyedepo's greatest point of boasting is telling the world how he seems to be gainig ground globally, buying fleet of Jets, building Universities, and encouraging or rather prophesying that the members were ordained for such feats. I was captivated by his teachings on those areas of prosperity because i was really in need of financial prosperity then, but later i discovered that his so-called kingdom ways were just financial and motivational laws and principle which even an islamic scholar who practices those same laws would achieve the same result, but Oyedepo will pick up a bible phrase from the scripture and run with it as though all of the scripture from Genesis to Revelation is simply talking about that same thing. I know millions of his die hard followers who are anticipating their breakthrough will not like to hear these truth. But i thank Jesus Christ who helped me to discover the truth in my later life and to make a U-turn. 3. Satan told Jesus to turn water into wine if He is the son of God, Oyedepo emphasizes on past miracles and new testimonies to implant in the mind of his followers that he is a messenger of God. (mind when Jesus was tempted of the devil to do all of theses things which i have listed above, Jesus never yielded, so How come Oyedepo's ministry thrives on all of such things?) there are several of his repeated testimonies which i may not want to cite here for fear of being arrested (as this is the trend of these so-called "men of God" which he presses into the subconscious mind of his followers to either instill fear in them (Just like the testimony most of his followers are aware of when he said God planted a stone in the stomach of a woman because hissed at his message and though he was unaware of the woman did, but God punished the lady because she despised him) or to create hope of getting breakthroughs, (that is where you hear him talking of how he sowed seed in the life of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland and God started blessing him, thereby creating the illusion in the mind of his followers that they can only get blessed by God when they themself start sowing seed into his life just like he did) miracles and other form of advancement in life.Friends the list is endless, and i know that the average winner will rather die in that winners that to come out of it and serve and worship Jesus only in spirit and in truth. I was able to discover most of his deceit when i came in contact with pastor W.F. Kumuyi and saw the difference in level of emphasies on most of these mundane things which Oyedepo exalts. The truth is Oyedepo is leading many to hell. by giving them a fictitious hope of righteousness because they think they have material possesions which will still perish and be consumed by fire rather than preaching and teaching his followers to be righteous and holy so that they can have eternal life and get them prepared for the rapture. This is the sum total of Christianity. This was the messsage of Jesus Christ "He went every where preaching that men should repent and forsake their sinful and evil ways" |
Topgainer:God bless you sir, these people have turned Christianity upside down and make me to wonder if this is what the early apostles laid their life for. I am so happy for you sir. if I had died while in Winners god knows that i would have gone to hell fire. winners will make you think that the identity of being a Christian is having all that money can afford just like the fellow you quoted up there who is in a fast track racing to hell thinking that he is the righteous man because his 'financial status' has changed. they forget about the story of the rich fool just as Jesus Christ told us in the bible. winners preaches confession of sin but not forsaking of sin. they even teach that heaven is here on earth |
It is quite unfortunate how new generation pastors quote scriptures out of context just to achieve their selfish interest and gains, deceiving the mases with the sentences found in scriptures that has a different meaning. Most of these pastors could even take a phrase and press it in the subconscious mind of the unsuspecting member, giving such an individual the notion that the phrase he has just quoted is the mind and word of God. In my own analysis, I believe that the greatest sin one can commit is the sin of deceit. I have been in the winners family for about 15 years and I was a very strong devotee, follower and believer of the teachings of Bishop Oyedepo. For the sake of being anonymous, i wouldn't want to state some of my profiles while i wasted my life away thinking i was serving God, not until I left there by a leading in my spiritman and fellowshiped with Deeper Life Christian Ministry, that I realized that if not for the mercies of god that pulled me out, If I had died, while in that ministry, i would have gone straight to hell fire. for over 15 years of my life which I spent in Living faith church, (and mind you, I spent a good number of years at the head quarter at Idiroko Road, Ota, where we have to travel for over an hour and half just to get to worship God) for over 15 years of my stay in that ministry, there was not one day that a teaching was done on eternity or where the soul of man will be after death. Of course they will tell you that one of the pillars of the ministry is sanctification but never for once was a teaching of the dangers and torment of hell fire mentioned in all of that 15 years that I spent. I had always thought that the major yardstick to tell if you are a christian or not is if you are prosperous and have dominion here on earth (based on the constant teaching of the winners ministry). It was when I went to Deeper life that I saw the true Picture of hell as describe by Jesus and as it is in the bible, it was while I was in deeper life (though i have not been in deeper life up to a year now) that I understood that my hope as a Christian heaven and my Goal is to make heaven and escape the torment of hell fire and not to seek for the mundane material things that will pass away. Every time i think of my life in the past I feel really bad because it seems like it was a period of wasted years. I know millions of people are trapped in winners today like I was back then and I have tried to analyse and understand how it was that possible for me to live in ignorance all those years without the realization of the truth, even when several people tried to open my understanding to some inconsistencies but I was too blind to see. Here are some of the reasons i finally discovered that was a snare that was used in keeping me there for that long. 1. ORATORY PROWESS OF BISHOP OYEDEPO the truth is that if you ever sat under the teaching of bishop Oyedepo in the late 90s and early 2000s you would not want to worship in any other place. Bishop took his time to master the use of language and the use of words. I got swept away by his teachings and his use of words. As a matter of fact within that period he was usually refered to as a man of wisdom and I, being naive of what Christianity was all about was so excited thinking i have found a place where you are taught how to succeed and how to make progress in life and to crown it all, it is being done in a church. this was the first bait that I swallowed (but now i understand that even a dummy who desires to be an effective public speaker could impress the most sophisticated mind as an orator if the dummy will take his time to leanrn the graces, skills and manners). 2. TESTIMONY OF OTHERS Friends, this was the second bait that i swallowed hook line and sinker. when I joined Winners Chapel (faith tabernacle) they usually take about 5 testimonies from the members. and believe you me, hearing from 5 individuals from a crowd of 50,000 people (back then, there was just one service that is being held and the normal Sunday capacity was 50,000) gave me that feeling that if alll five persons testified of such amazing things, then, God must have that place as His domain therefore, I will also have my own testimony there. and guess what, when it is tome for Papa to preach, for so he was fondly called, he would emphasize on those testimony giving all glory to God. (later I found out that those five testimonies are usually what they described as the 5 best testimony on that Sunday morning that tally's with the teaching of that day)On the contrast, when I came to deeper life even the most insignificant (I call it insignificant because it may not be so overwhelming or mind bugging) act of God in the life of an individual is considered a great act of God and the individual is given the priviledge to share such experiences with the brethren no matter how insignificat you may call call it. (Usually, testimonies are taken only on Thursday meetings @ Deeper Life and never on Sundays (probably not wanting to create an illusion on the mind of worshipers unlike that of Winners that derive pleasures from the false impression that they create in the mind of their worshipers giving them hope that just as it happened in the life of those individuals, so it will be in theirs )) OYEDEPO'S PREACHING OF THE WORD OF FAITH when i joined Winners the emphasis was always on faith. 'faith as a universal currency that has equal purchasing power in any country' that is according to Oyedepo. i was captivated with that. just like i said, Oyedepo is a man that has the gift of gab. He has the command of language and you will fall for it any day any time (so dont be suprised if you see people there that are willing to die for him) so, I spent my life trying to understand what faith is and how to use it to purchase all of my numerous desires that was aroused from the testimonies which i have heard from others on that sunday morning (and you keep hearing new testimonies every morning, little did I know that some of those testimonies are fabricated by the testifiers just to have themselves pictured in the big screen inside the tabernacle and to climb on the altar so that they can be seen. i have been tempted once to exagerate some strange happening in my life but God helped me to restrain myself and Bishop Oyedepo's pastor has said it that some people climb on the altar to tell lies ) I will continue tommorow on a new thread which i have captioned "How I Lleft Winners Chapel for Good" bezimo: |
I have read several post and comments by this great Nairalander and they are always informative, educative,intelligent and breath taking. he always bring to the fore, some of the hidden agendas, hipocritical doings of the present government administration. I came accros this article and I was shocked and filled with awe, that politicians take Nigerians for granted and go scot free.. barcanista: |
GEJ TILL ALL THE BROOM CARRIERS EMBRACE HIM |
Only few days ago, Vatican Radio released a letter by Pope Francis to Bishops in Nigeria to express his closeness to them in prayers as well as addressing issues surrounding the country Nigeria. The 2nd paragraph of the letter, the pontiff spoke highly of the Nigerian economy which has grown to the largest in Africa in “recent years”, under Jonathan’s watch. Pope Francis wrote: “NIGERIA, known as the “African giant”, with its more than 160 million inhabitants, is set to play a primary role, not only in Africa but in the world at large. In recent years, it has experienced robust growth in the economic sphere and has again reasserted itself on the world stage as an attractive market, on account of its natural resources as well as its commercial potential. It is now considered officially the single largest African economy. It has also distinguished itself as a political player widely committed to the resolution of crisis situations in the continent.” The text of the letter has elicited reactions mostly favorable to the President Jonathan camp as they struggle to convince Nigerians of the Economic growth in the face of the APC’s heavy propaganda Machinery. According to Wole Akinyeye “Can anyone take this from us? But it only happened under the watch of a VISIONARY LEADER-GOODLUCK EBELE JONATHAN! #GEJTill2019 is the demand of majority of NIGERIANS” Ms. Eleanya Onwuka “APC will soon claim President Goodluck Jonathan paid the Pope for his statement on Nigeria’s growth. APC is a party full of lies and deceptions as exposed by the Deputy Governor of Rivers State. God Bless Nigeria, God Bless President Goodluck Jonathan” Another commenter Mr. Richard, he said “Good deed has a way of speaking for itself. Good luck Jonathan is working, it’s no fiction, the world at large is attesting to that fact. Vote him to do more!” “Pope Francis also attest to the growth of the Nigerian economy. Whose report do you believe? Don’t let the APC propaganda agents deceive you.” Timi Remi-Meindinyo also said “Never again are we allowing a confirmed NITWIT rule us again! To reverse all the gains we have painstakingly achieved under the able leadership of President GEJ. Never again. Thank you and God bless Pope Frances.” The Pope’s endorsement of Nigerian Economic growth sends a strong message to many more Nigerians who exalt his office as the pontiff cannot be seen to be an agent of the PDP or President Jonathan READ MORE: http://www.naij.com/408686-pope-francis-commends-economy-under-jonathans-watch.html?utm_source=traqli&utm_medium=traqli&utm_campaign=traqli&traqli-referral=oruademaxi%40yahoo.com&source=traqli |
rayblast:peace |
PassingShot:clown, was Buhari not part |
dj187:But I've spoken with several individuals and they still prefer GEJ to GMB who truncated democracy in Nigeria and paved way for other greedy heads of states to loot the country dry. |
It,s amazing to see the change chanters and their jubilation on most online platform believing they already have victory over the president. Of course, you and I know how critical and negative they are about President GEJ's administration and then turn blind eyes on some of the outstanding achievment of the president. Although, there are several setback which had been observed in the Jonathan's administratration, however, several landslide achievements have been made. most APC fanatics believe that the number of like they get from their posts here on nairaland simply means that all nigerians are in support of their view and presidential candidate, however, when you check a particular page where they have great number of likes you'll find out that there are over 40,000 views with about 500 likes going to them. My point is, Do they think the other 39,500 others who viewed the topic and did not hit the like button for their post do not know how to do that? I think they do but they rather find it irritating supporting them |
JackBaueress:IS THAT ENOUGH REASON HE DESERVES MY VOTE? |
wakacome:guy, you dull. so you believe this kind of crap. however, i dont expect any thing less from your likes, as the leader of your train is certificateless so as his followers illiterates that believes every thing |
GEJ till 2023 |
APC hates these kind of news |
Collynzo419: |
xreal:nice one Keep dreaming.... Gej till 2023 |
if He has not made a meaningful contribution so why are people still shouting his old praises ![]() |
shame is what you get when you make false prophecy |
I hear a lot of youth shouting Sai Buhari as though he has done some great deed to the current democracy we are currently enjoying in nigeria and I became a bit confused with the Little bit of History i read. Buhari truncated the democratic process of Alhaji Shehu shagari and after that several other millitary regime came on board until Abdulsalami restored back democracy. Of course, you and I know the pains of the millitary rule, yet I see people clamouring for someone who rebirth the presence of the Kaki men in power. please sir/Ma'm if you know better, how has Buhari contributed to the democracy of Nigeria because I cannot cast my vote for someone whom i do not know his contribution to the peaceful existence of My country to come and govern me. over to you mods cc: Lalasticlala cc: Seun |
Whooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaah I'm so so proud of My Presidents Achievements All APCheat haters of progress and continuity of progress can go and die to allow us enjoy the change we already have and are seeing Gej is still Nigeria's best ever President. The Man is cal, calculative yet dilligent. This Man has self control and he is able to withstand all the pressure mounted upon him by the opposition party. I Love you GEJ You are indeed a man to be reckoned with. God bless GEJ....till 2023 |
umarsanijada:guy your mumu just dey escalate GEJ till 2023 |
siraj1402:MUMUrity of the highest order. go get some sense GEJ till 2019 |
mrbillz:Guy, your mumu dey too advanced yaba left still get vacancy for their wards |
sinizia:and they still claim to have better ideas to rule civilised Nigerians Shame to all educated Yoruba citizen dancing behind them |
timmy2409:oya now... mr Grammar find your way to power omo, comot for road make i see better things wen GEJ dey do joor... GEJ..... till all APCheaters start seeign good things about Nigeria |

which he presses into the subconscious mind of his followers to either instill fear in them (Just like the testimony most of his followers are aware of when he said God planted a stone in the stomach of a woman because hissed at his message and though he was unaware of the woman did, but God punished the lady because she despised him) or to create hope of getting breakthroughs, (that is where you hear him talking of how he sowed seed in the life of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland and God started blessing him, thereby creating the illusion in the mind of his followers that they can only get blessed by God when they themself start sowing seed into his life just like he did) miracles and other form of advancement in life.