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Mitsurugi:
Oga please shift that cry matter. Wetin concern me with two men far richer than you or me. I no dey carry this kain matter for head. We're exchanging views, so let's be civil, abeg.

I know deep down, you are pained.

Stop taking it personal, Messi is greater than Ronaldo. The world cup is the difference, accepting this fact doesn't mean that you will not live a normal life

Mitsurugi:
I hear. It's still an international cup won by a country. I'd advise you to go check the Wikipedia article on players. Go to HONOURS

It is but outside of Europe, e no get levels.

Felissima get levels pass am

Mitsurugi:
But you cannot delete his name from history nor his achievements. Whether he is a small or big GOAT.

I am not saying that Ronaldo is not a great player.

I am saying that he's not in the league of Pele, Maradona and Messi. This has been settled.

Ronaldo just like Delima, Gerd muller, Zidane and Cryuff who are in his league will always be remembered.

I know this pill is so bitter to swallow but you go to do it. No world, no one wk regadd you a GOAT in the next 20years from now

Mitsurugi:
It is not an international trophy. It is a local trophy shaa played in Europe, abi? Okay. It is played by and won by whom? Club or country? Haba na!

1 world cup is like 10 of it.

Even Felissima trophy is bigger than nation league

This is going to decided whether Tinubu can win or not.

In your opinion, giving facts to back it up, can Tinubu actually beat Atiku in NE and NW and Peter obi in southsouth and southeast?

FreshFarmAgro:
Continue to delude yourself Messi slave. I wonder how you guys think with the lies and misinformation you push out

your tears is delicious

Mitsurugi:
Really? And the fact that CR7 is the first MAN in history to score in 5 successive world cups which FIFA themselves have documented is..... nna eh... you guys should just quit abeg. You rival fans sound too childish.

one The criteria for making world cup documentary and hall of fame is to win the world cup.

Ronaldo na local European Asun

Mitsurugi:
I like how it was Champions league before. Then it became international cup. Now it's the World Cup. Shifting posts.

Still 1 world cup = 5 ucls

You can cry all you want

Nawttiboi007:
Oya try walk in his shoes na.. if ur leg go size am

I no fit walk in his shoes, same way he cannot walk in Messi's shoes. Oga get Oga

Kingcalls:
Story..did u say the same thing when Ronaldo and his team were getting fouled ?? 4kin hypos

Then eat a piece of your own cake then

Mitsurugi:
Ronaldo won the Euros and the UEFA Nations League with Portugal as Messi won the Copa America and World Cup with Argentina. So it's actually 2 - 2 in international football success. But of course we'll argue that World Cup is now bigger than all the trophies. Na una make Messi talk say e no wan retire perhaps to add one more Copa America to make it 2 - 3.

Make una leave this CR7 and Messi matter. They will always be mentioned in the same breath till eternity. And better, they both respect and highly regard each other.

Finally this worse team is based on APPEARANCES. World Cup winner Lautaro Martinez is in it.

Ronaldo cannot be mentioned in the same breath as Messi in history.

When Fifa wants to do world cup documentary, Ronaldo will not make the list ever and forever.

He has no place in the GOAT debate. He's not in the league of Messi, Pele and Maradona.

He will fade away faster than Messi because he has no history in the biggest football tournament.

He has to correct this by somehow finding a way to win the world cup. This is the bitter truth

Mitsurugi:
Ronaldo won the Euros and the UEFA Nations League with Portugal as Messi won the Copa America and World Cup with Argentina. So it's actually 2 - 2 in international football success. But of course we'll argue that World Cup is now bigger than all the trophies. Na una make Messi talk say e no wan retire perhaps to add one more Copa America to make it 2 - 3.

Make una leave this CR7 and Messi matter. They will always be mentioned in the same breath till eternity. And better, they both respect and highly regard each other.

1 world cup equals 5 euros.
Uefa nations league is a friendly match.

World cup is the ultimate price in football, it cannot be compared with another and Ronaldo doesn't have it

Kingcalls:
Messi that has played 13 more penalties than Ronaldo when it comes to national team football ... despite playing lesser games ....without penalties, Messi is trash

Then stop fouling argentine players inside the box. It's simple

Nawttiboi007:
If you like shade him from now till forever.. Christiano Ronaldo will never be forgotten in the history of football.. he’s name is crested on platinum... he’s a living legend

nobody know am for world cup history.
His name will disappear faster than Messi because he didn't achieve much outside of Europe.

Na local champion

Peacecore:
na y we and Almiron never gree since. Who notice say Obem never come online since. E fit be say d guy don die sef

there's no peace for the wicked.

For 4 years when Messi was suffering in Barcelona and consistently crashing out of UCl, Ronaldo fans were everywhere trolling us.
Now they are acting like matured bitches.

Even on the day Argentina played final, Ronaldo fans were still there to mock Messi when Mbappe equalized

Obaaderemi2:
The duo of Messi and Ronaldo gave us a lot to cheer in football. Only small children want to kill themselves over the greatest rivalry of our time. Before it used to be Pele/Maradona. This one is too much.

Ronaldo fans consoling themselves.

Messi is better than Ronaldo, it has to be accepted

Na DG dey contest?
Is question doesn't make sense

Eriokanmi:
TBH, Pele remains the king of soccer. Those calling rolando or Messi goat should please get all the recorded videos of matches in which Pele the great had played actively before they were born. He won the world cup back to back, winning 3 world cups in total, the only one to have ever done so

Messi has more goals than Pele, more trophies, more assist and more medals.

Messi is the GOAT, Ronaldo is not in the top 5

LesbianBoy:
E pain am

Only a Ronaldo fan is nuturing pain now tbh

No world cup, no GOAT debate.

The 3 GOATs are Pele, Messi and Maradona.

Cristiano is in the league of Cryuff, Figo and Gerd Muller. Messi Don pass am

I will rather vote for a dog than vote for Tinubu or Atiku

1.Those currently in the GOAT debate.
Pele
MARADONA
Messi

2. Elite players who are not in the GOAT debate
Cristiano Ronaldo
Gerd Muller
Johan Cryuff
Delima Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Romario
Zidane

3. Future possible GOATs
Mbappe
Halaand
Alvarez
Pedri
Musiala


Fair list

Nbote:
Story.. Will they be in far north remote areas to monitor if bvas was used? Bought pvcs aren't for urban or general polling units. It's for those isolated units where violence will be threatened and officials will have no choice but to comply for their own safety

you need serious education on how BVAS works

traihit:
Why call it "miracle" if you can put it under experiment?

By its very nature, miracle means something you can't logically explain. How do you prove that which can't be logically explained.

I'm not sure religious people are still going about seeking to give evidence to atheists and agnostic.

Spiritual journey is longer and far more adventurous than that. If you're in it, you're in it. If you're not in it, keep exploring agnosticism.

Perhaps those new to their spiritual walks can try convincing you but a lot of spiritual folks simply don't care anymore. They can "pray" for you in their corners though.

This is why miracles are not real.
Anything that cannot be tested is not real yet, just like Unicorns

Dtruthspeaker:
Testimonies are what is called "Oral Evidence" subject to many tests before they can be taken as True and Proof of Truth!

Testimonies, especially those in churches are still claims that need to be verified.

Because you said it doesn't mean it's true

Dtruthspeaker:
Testimonies are what is called "Oral Evidence" subject to many tests before they can be taken as True and Proof of Truth!

testimonies are claims. Especially church testimonies

FullBlastLight:
CR7 is stil d best at least in personal records!

And wit dt, he remains d Goatest GOAT!

shut up. You are sounding stupid

PoliteActivist:
The problem with your thesis is that you fail to see that everything in our reality is an assumption - we have NO WAY of proving that reality exist as we experience it

this is strawman.
The issue here is not to prove reality, the issue here to to prove the potency of miracle using controlled method just the same way you can prove that levofloxacin can cure typhoid fever.

Whether or not reality can be proven, it wont affect the result

Religion is a set of assumptions that has never been proven. Religion defies logic in the sense that, it doesn't need evidence to make a claim. It makes such claims and then starts looking for evidence to justify them.
Religious people do not even know what should be regarded as evidence for any phenomenon, they create insane and baseless ideas and then battle whatever evidence against it or start making up more claims to back it up.

When you ask a religious person to provide evidence for miracles; he tells you that he has experienced miracles and he expects you to accept that as an evidence. I can as well tell you that I am typing this from Mars, I do not think that you are stupid enough to take my word for it.
Evidence is testable and the result of the test will be reproducible.

For example, if a Christian makes a claim of miracles, whether or not you have experienced it in your life isn't enough evidence to say miracles are real because we cannot test that evidence, that's not even any evidence to start with. How do you propose that we test it?

In any situation, there are variables, in the case if your miracle claims, we have many variables that can affect outcome, variables like; probabilities and natural explanations. It is why we need a control to ascertain your miracle claim.
When conducting an experiment, a control is an element that remains unchanged or unaffected by other variables. It's used as a benchmark or a point of comparison against which other test results are measured.

If you make a miracle claim that a man was healed of HIV, what are the questions you should ask before accepting it?

1. Does this man have a reliable test result? If yes or no, you still have to redo the HIV test by yourself to say for sure that he had HIV.

2. If he had HIV, how do we know that it was miraculously healed and not a factor of some other variables that we don't know?

3. Can this pastor repeat this miracle on other HIV patients? This is the only way to know for sure that miracles can actually heal HIV.
By doing this, we will present for example 100 HIV patients to him, he has to heal 95% of them to attain a statistical significance, the remaining 5% can be regarded as margin of error. Healing 95 out of 100 validates the reproducibility of the tested evidence.

4. We will have control samples of HIV patients, he will then compare the result of the experiment with the control. The control in this case are those patient who will not have encounter with the pastor, if some of them get healed then it means that maybe some other variables and not the prayers of the pastor is responsible for the healing. If none of the control is healed then it's clear evidence that the pastor can heal HIV.


This is how to make evidence, you don't just make claims and then boom, you expect us to believe it. It has to be tested. Testimonies are never evidence. It's more and more claims

Misterone:
how many flyover did Obi build? If you like cry for net. Asiwaju just won the elections

obi built 2 flyovers. Tinubu built many touts

West1side:
No governor of Lagos before Tinubu built a flyover n no governor among the set of 1999 - 2007 built one, nonetheless he lead laid the foundation for the enormous wealth is proteges in Fashola used in building the most Iconic bridge in Nigeria till date the link bridge in Lekki. Pls note no Igbo state as a single bridge that can be compared to this only iconic bridge comparable is the 3 step bridge Ganduje just completed.

no matter how often you tell a lie, it cant become a truth.

Misterone:
werey! Lagos is built on a master plan championed by Asiwaju, not you build your flyover and I build mine

same masterplan that built more than 80% of the flyovers in lagos today that exist before tinubu became governor. Urchins are pathological liars.