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Ade1177:
Brother what will you call Cristiano Ronaldo then?

Because I think he has a larger fan base than Messi

And Only he and Messi dominated football for so long
15yrs

Agreed Messi won the world Cup, both of them can't win it

One has to win

But when people talk about Ronaldo like just anyone else is not cool,

Messi is great but without Messi Ronaldo would easily dominate the world

Without Ronaldo also
Those 5 ballon dors would go to Messi
Messi would have 12

Cristiano won 5 could have been 6 if he stayed in Madrid in 2018

So someone that beat Messi 5 times should be respected too

So Messi can be Goat to millions of people

But Ronaldo is Still Goat to other millions of people

Messi is obviously ahead of Ronaldo.
The fact that Ronaldo cannot break into world cup hall of fame makes him not in the same league as Pele, Messi and Maradona.

It doesn't matter if the whole world are his fans. Facts are facts.

I am being realistic with you. Football analysts in the future will definitely consider this and strike him out of the debate. In th future, no one will watch him, they will only look at the records and no world cup? He will be regarded as Cryuff or platini

Jokerman:
Of cos.

Varane is bigger than Maldini

yes, Varane is a more accomplished defender than Maldini.

The trophies are there to justify that

Niklaus398:
yes u re right no doubt he won't come on top those two.

So now is now

Pele
Messi
Maradona
C.Ronaldo
Ronaldo Brazil
Etc


But knowthis.. if Ronaldo should be a virtue of Grace go with Portugal to the world cup in 2026 and win that world cup. He will climb up to that third or even second position .

By the way, Pele is above Messi and maradona because he won 3 world cups for me.

Gerd Muller is a greater player than Ronaldo by a. Lot. See why : Müller became the first German to win the Ballon d'Or back in 1970, when it was still known as the European Footballer of the Year. He remains the top scorer in Bayern's history with 566 goals in 607 games, won three consecutive European Cups, the Intercontinental Cup (world cup)), the Cup Winners' Cup and four Bundesliga titles.

Ronaldo needs the world cup to be at that level

Niklaus398:
lol hate has blinded you.

Apart from that world cup that has eluded Ronaldo and kept him away of the top 3..he easily enter top 4.

Ronaldo Brazil could have come before him but he has only 3 BD and not CL.
Ronaldo has 5 and 5 Cl. Just being brought down by World cup..

So he easily comes 4th for anyone without biases.
You might say he is not as talented as Ronaldo delima but nevertheless he has achieved much more than Ronaldo delima.

Remove Ronaldo CL and Delima World cup.

Ronaldo dump delima in every statiscal data.. weather on goals or on assists. Weather on freekicks or anything at all.

You might say he had the longer career..but how is that Ronaldo fault? Cristiano in 2014 had a near career ending injury and had to adapt and change his game to continue football, to me that's a brilliant footballer.
But delima failed too. it simple...

Cristiano easily comes third after Pele, Messi, maradona. If he wins the world cup in 2026 he will go third ahead of maradona.
Messi will still maintain 2nd simply because of the number of his ballon dor

see, whatever you do in Europe, if you don't make FIFA hall of fame, na local continental champ you be.

The world cup is the biggest footballing tournament in the world, not just in football but the biggest sport event. If Ronaldo doesn't make an impact there, he remains a local continent champ. No GOAT debate for him

Jokerman:
No court case bro. He has already been acquitted of all wrongdoing. Make God keep us alive.

Pessi don free now... choi

Even Modric can be regarded as c greater than Ronaldo atm.
Modric has a world cup golden ball, bronze medla and silver medal.

Ronaldo is not part of the best 10 players in history atm

Kingcalls:
But there was goat debate when Ronaldo first won a cup with his national team.... Argument then was first to win national Cup...una still no gree..... Ronaldo remaind the greatest of all time...his over a billion fans still believe that he is the greatest, ur fake world cup can't change that

levels Don change. Make Ronaldo level up.

Him with Messi no be mates again

ItsTutsi:
Tinubu will get a very good outing in the north.. nothing less than 5p% overall votes

Why do you think Tinubu can beat a formidable Atiku and kwankwaso on the turf?

On what logics basis did you reach that conclusion.
What makes you think that Northerners will leave kwankwaso and Atiku to give Tinubu the lead

Mitsurugi:
So why do you watch the other competitions? You wey follow curse Nigeria too for not winning AFCON. Anyway I'm glad this tiring Messi/CR7 nonsense is over for una mind, make we finally hear word.

What kinda of childish logic is this?

It's like asking why I watch carling up and Copa dey rel if UCl is bigger.

No world cup, no GOAT debate. Simple

Kingcalls:
Nonsense.... winning WC don't make u the greatest.... Ronaldo will forever be the true king... we don't support fake goats that fifa helped

No world cup, no GOAT debate. Even FIFA knows this

Mitsurugi:
Your opinion. But you shaa mentioned Cryuff. Why?

it's not an opinion, it's fact.

No world cup, no GOAT debate

Mitsurugi:
I understand your argument as levels go, but its like saying the Ballon D'Or winning George Weah was no great simply because he never won the World Cup. He never even went. Some players will never have the honour not because they are not good but because of their country's pedigree in football. Just look at Belgium. So De Bryune falls short of greatness because of his country's poor pedigree, abi?

On a team note, Messi always had more chances of winning the WC than Portugal. They are a WC traditional team. And I believe that is why CR7 just concentrated on individual honours till he won the 2 international trophies. Still una no let am drink water.

Even if this world cup is Messi's only international trophy, it automatically cancles out whatever Ronaldo won in Europe for his country.


World cup is ultimate

Nawttiboi007:
Ronaldo is a living legend like it or love it

no doubt he's a legend but he's not in the category of Messi, Pele and Maradona.
World cup is very key, very important.

People will always place him bow these 3. Just wait a while when experts start analyzing this issues

Nawttiboi007:
Not be the World Cup wey the whole world watch if no be penalty luck chances?... who shine pass for that match?.. all hail young Mbappé the beginning of a new era

all these ones na story.

Nobody go reason all these jargons 20 years from now.

Who got the world cup, final Answer.

Story Don end, Messi was better for that reason

Mitsurugi:
Oga I am not pained. I am being objective and I expect you to do the same. If you won't, no wahala. I won't reply you again. Quit the shithousery man.

Objectivity is knowing that Ronaldo needs a world cup trophy to be in the level of Pele, Messi and Maradona.

It's not very hard to rationalize

Mitsurugi:
Why? Have you heard of Eusebio, the Black Panther. I swear una no dey follow sports. You even called Cryuff but didn't mention Eusebio of Portugal.

CR7 is not the league of greats. How can you say this with a straight face in the face of his footballing achievements which drowns those you mentioned. Cryuff never even won an international trophy for crying out loud

you cannot be in Pele, Maradona and Messi's level without a world cup.

It's as simple as that, you will be forced to accept reality or you will keep burning in pain

Nawttiboi007:
Messi no rule all through him active years of not dem for no frustrate am be4 him commot go PSG

But world cup and 8 Ballon dor in ronaldo's Era?

Future footballer lovers will look at the records and never doubt that Mess was better. The records will speak

Mitsurugi:
Oga please shift that cry matter. Wetin concern me with two men far richer than you or me. I no dey carry this kain matter for head. We're exchanging views, so let's be civil, abeg.

I know deep down, you are pained.

Stop taking it personal, Messi is greater than Ronaldo. The world cup is the difference, accepting this fact doesn't mean that you will not live a normal life

Mitsurugi:
I hear. It's still an international cup won by a country. I'd advise you to go check the Wikipedia article on players. Go to HONOURS

It is but outside of Europe, e no get levels.

Felissima get levels pass am

Mitsurugi:
But you cannot delete his name from history nor his achievements. Whether he is a small or big GOAT.

I am not saying that Ronaldo is not a great player.

I am saying that he's not in the league of Pele, Maradona and Messi. This has been settled.

Ronaldo just like Delima, Gerd muller, Zidane and Cryuff who are in his league will always be remembered.

I know this pill is so bitter to swallow but you go to do it. No world, no one wk regadd you a GOAT in the next 20years from now

Mitsurugi:
It is not an international trophy. It is a local trophy shaa played in Europe, abi? Okay. It is played by and won by whom? Club or country? Haba na!

1 world cup is like 10 of it.

Even Felissima trophy is bigger than nation league

This is going to decided whether Tinubu can win or not.

In your opinion, giving facts to back it up, can Tinubu actually beat Atiku in NE and NW and Peter obi in southsouth and southeast?

FreshFarmAgro:
Continue to delude yourself Messi slave. I wonder how you guys think with the lies and misinformation you push out

your tears is delicious

Mitsurugi:
Really? And the fact that CR7 is the first MAN in history to score in 5 successive world cups which FIFA themselves have documented is..... nna eh... you guys should just quit abeg. You rival fans sound too childish.

one The criteria for making world cup documentary and hall of fame is to win the world cup.

Ronaldo na local European Asun

Mitsurugi:
I like how it was Champions league before. Then it became international cup. Now it's the World Cup. Shifting posts.

Still 1 world cup = 5 ucls

You can cry all you want

Nawttiboi007:
Oya try walk in his shoes na.. if ur leg go size am

I no fit walk in his shoes, same way he cannot walk in Messi's shoes. Oga get Oga

Kingcalls:
Story..did u say the same thing when Ronaldo and his team were getting fouled ?? 4kin hypos

Then eat a piece of your own cake then

Mitsurugi:
Ronaldo won the Euros and the UEFA Nations League with Portugal as Messi won the Copa America and World Cup with Argentina. So it's actually 2 - 2 in international football success. But of course we'll argue that World Cup is now bigger than all the trophies. Na una make Messi talk say e no wan retire perhaps to add one more Copa America to make it 2 - 3.

Make una leave this CR7 and Messi matter. They will always be mentioned in the same breath till eternity. And better, they both respect and highly regard each other.

Finally this worse team is based on APPEARANCES. World Cup winner Lautaro Martinez is in it.

Ronaldo cannot be mentioned in the same breath as Messi in history.

When Fifa wants to do world cup documentary, Ronaldo will not make the list ever and forever.

He has no place in the GOAT debate. He's not in the league of Messi, Pele and Maradona.

He will fade away faster than Messi because he has no history in the biggest football tournament.

He has to correct this by somehow finding a way to win the world cup. This is the bitter truth

Mitsurugi:
Ronaldo won the Euros and the UEFA Nations League with Portugal as Messi won the Copa America and World Cup with Argentina. So it's actually 2 - 2 in international football success. But of course we'll argue that World Cup is now bigger than all the trophies. Na una make Messi talk say e no wan retire perhaps to add one more Copa America to make it 2 - 3.

Make una leave this CR7 and Messi matter. They will always be mentioned in the same breath till eternity. And better, they both respect and highly regard each other.

1 world cup equals 5 euros.
Uefa nations league is a friendly match.

World cup is the ultimate price in football, it cannot be compared with another and Ronaldo doesn't have it

Kingcalls:
Messi that has played 13 more penalties than Ronaldo when it comes to national team football ... despite playing lesser games ....without penalties, Messi is trash

Then stop fouling argentine players inside the box. It's simple

Nawttiboi007:
If you like shade him from now till forever.. Christiano Ronaldo will never be forgotten in the history of football.. he’s name is crested on platinum... he’s a living legend

nobody know am for world cup history.
His name will disappear faster than Messi because he didn't achieve much outside of Europe.

Na local champion

Peacecore:
na y we and Almiron never gree since. Who notice say Obem never come online since. E fit be say d guy don die sef

there's no peace for the wicked.

For 4 years when Messi was suffering in Barcelona and consistently crashing out of UCl, Ronaldo fans were everywhere trolling us.
Now they are acting like matured bitches.

Even on the day Argentina played final, Ronaldo fans were still there to mock Messi when Mbappe equalized

Obaaderemi2:
The duo of Messi and Ronaldo gave us a lot to cheer in football. Only small children want to kill themselves over the greatest rivalry of our time. Before it used to be Pele/Maradona. This one is too much.

Ronaldo fans consoling themselves.

Messi is better than Ronaldo, it has to be accepted