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njelrapheal:
I propose we have a zoom session 1hour each sunday over 2 months where can have this conversation. First we agree on what a theory is then what the theory of evolution is then we put forward facts to support our arguments

ok, why can’t we have the discussion here?

Teslason:
From your argument with him, it shows you have a strong belief for evolution.


Well, if it truly happened, why didn't birds change to a smarter animal?
Why are there still apes since evolution shouldn't leave everyone behind?

It's very lame to just assume evolution of man from ape as a correct thing.

i don’t have belief for evolution. I follow the evidence where it lead irrespective of whatever I believe.

Baawaa:
By your faith,I prays and God answers

how can we measure that vis-a-vis those that don't pray.
Have you had more successes than an average person that doesn't pray?
Think out of thr box

Harvard professor Herbert Benson performed a "Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)" in 2006. The STEP, commonly called the "Templeton Foundation prayer study" or "Great Prayer Experiment", used 1,802 coronary artery bypass surgery patients at six hospitals. Using double-blind protocols, patients were randomized into three groups, individual prayer receptiveness was not measured. The members of the experimental and control Groups 1 and 2 were informed they might or might not receive prayers, and only Group 1 received prayers. Group 3, which served as a test for possible psychosomatic effects, was informed they would receive prayers and subsequently did. Unlike some other studies, STEP attempted to standardize the prayer method. Only first names and last initial for patients were provided and no photographs were supplied. The congregations of three Christian churches who prayed for the patients "were allowed to pray in their own manner, but they were instructed to include the following phrase in their prayers: "for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications". Some participants complained that this mechanical way they were told to pray as part of the experiment was unusual for them. Complications of surgery occurred in 52 percent of those who received prayer (Group 1), 51 percent of those who did not receive it (Group 2), and 59 percent of patients who knew they would receive prayers (Group 3). There were no statistically significant differences in major complications or thirty-day mortality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer#The_STEP_project

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efficiencie:
@chinasaekpere from your post I can see that you have inherited the pattern and spirit of the waters and emptiers from your parents. Yes, your Dad is religious but he is not spiritual. You need to go for deliverance. If you cannot go for deliverance, get prayer points from Dr. D. K. Olukoya (http://mfmjesu-ga.org/2016/05/02/the-battle-against-the-wasters/) and pray before you make another decision. If you don't break from the pattern of your parents you will repeat their mistakes just as you have already started making the mistakes.

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MaxInDHouse:
The significance of literacy is understanding and when there is understanding between two persons the end result is PEACE in the society.
So let's see how far evolution produces PEACE in the gathering of those adhering to the concept before you can talk of REAL literacy!

KNOWLEDGE is the accumulation of information surely every human has a little but WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information resulting in lasting benefits.
Prove that EVOLUTION is not just for head knowledge by letting us know it's benefits when compared to CREATION with regards to LITERACY!

I have shared more than 10 evidence for evolution, even if I share 1million, you won’t read it.

It’s true whether or not you like it, that’s science for you. You don’t have to like it for it to be true

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MaxInDHouse:
Go through our discussion once again, read all the cited texts and come back to tell me if the one who uttered these statements knows everything as you're assuming:

Then Jehovah said: “The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 10:20-21


Then he said: “Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me" Genesis 22:12

Of course God can know all things but He has chosen to concentrate only on the righteous as in those who do things that gladdens His heart {Proverbs 27:11} because the inclination of the heart of most humans is evil all the time {Genesis 6:6-7} and that will always sadden Him if He should continue to read all human hearts! Ecclesiastes 7:21

So His faithful servants believes that God knows EVERYTHING about them but as for the wicked they are missing in His memory book! Revelations 20:15

That's why you can't find the word "OMNISCIENT" written in that book!

[/s] he still want to justify the rubbish even animals know it’s wrong

MaxInDHouse:
This has shown how bitter you're towards the truth but it's OK you'll have much more next time you try to ridicule God's word due to the misinformation passed to you by misinformed churchgoers!

Lol, dude you don't know what omniscient is.

Even animals would know that. No one takes you seriously, check the thread

MaxInDHouse:
Of course i'll forever remain illiterate to evolution because no animal evolve from something else!

Just remain illiterate. We understand

Janosky:
Na these your 3 doghead Pastorpreneurs who fleece you, you dey compare with JWs in the other thread?

Your daftness is very luminous.

I am atheist, I rather become a Taliban than a witness. You guys are insane

No religion makes sense including Christianity

MaxInDHouse:
So you've finally resulted to insults and abuses when you discover that your bullets doesn't have any negative effect on true faith!
Well it's normal, enjoy your weekend Sir!

Anyone who doesn’t know that omniscient means “all knowing” or tries to twist it is worse than a dog. Such person should not be living within humans but with lower animals in the wilderness

MaxInDHouse:
So you've finally resulted to insults and abuses when you discover that your bullets doesn't have any negative effect on true faith!
Well it's normal, enjoy your weekend Sir!

Its not an insult, my dog has a higher IQ than you. Everyone on this thread can testify to that

MaxInDHouse:
Just say you're UPDATING the concept of evolution because that's what they said from the beginning!

Just say you are illiterate and never understand how anything works

Cousin9999:
One of the major problems is all the offshoring and outsourcing to backwards lames like China. China will always be a third world country regardless of any development.

Being a third world country has nothing to do with development in the first place.

MaxInDHouse:
Below is what evolutionists say!
So show me just one example, please don't get upset now because you want to teach everyone what evolutionists taught you so you need to be patient now!

That you show is what illiterates like you say.

Not science

MaxInDHouse:
Wow! So your dog can even speak!
That makes Balam's donkey number one, as in the first talking four legged animal while your dog will be the second!

Should I introduce you to browney, he seemingly got a better brain than you

Greatzeus:
Why is it still a theory after all the years? What does that tell you? If it was proven,it would be a law now,like law of thermodynamics.

Gravity is also a theory but people don't fly

Cell theory is also a theory but I see cells under microscopes

Germ theory is a theory but you get infected by pathogens

Atomic theory is a theory but nothing works without it in physics and chemistry

Maybe you are person who doesn't understand what a "scientific theory" is. You should work on yourself to understand it

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So speak with your dog, at least it will make you feel satisfied since it can't say anything to change your mind on evolution!

My dog knows that omniscient is all knowing, you don’t.

I I should introduce you to my dog for lectures

MaxInDHouse:
Any animal evolving into something else?

stupid questions, even humans are Animals

MaxInDHouse:
Any animal evolving into something else?

Even if I tattoo it on your body, you will still not read it

MaxInDHouse:
YES! And they make you happy as you keep ridiculing their faith while they're helpless.
But as for us we'll give you no such chances so we know why you'll prefer them anyday!

Even my dog know that the meaning of omniscient is “all knowing”.
I will take my dogs more seriously then you

MaxInDHouse:
No animal has ever evolved into something else, according to the book of Creation all creatures are producing their kind! Genesis 1:24

more evidence for you to ignore.

MaxInDHouse:
You called them "other Christians" but according to Jesus he doesn't know them because they have nothing in common with him:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness" Matthew 7:21-23

My friend, Jesus doesn't recognize those misinformed churchgoers you are calling "Christians"

I rather take other Christians seriously, at least they know the meaning of omniscient.
You don’t

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, there's no experiment regarding evolution, it's a BIG LIE!
People get sick and they are cured or treated by people who takes herbs and other plants to treat them. Nothing evolves to treat you!

i don’t say what u cannot back up with evidence. I Will blind you with evidence here

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, there's no experiment regarding evolution, it's a BIG LIE!
People get sick and they are cured or treated by people who takes herbs and other plants to treat them. Nothing evolves to treat you!

Sorry, everything is evolving sir

MaxInDHouse:
Thank you for validating the words of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!
He told us that if we're truly practicing what he taught us you people will treat us exactly the same way he was treated:

Listen to him:

It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:25
You've called me juju man this morning and your friend also called me demonic, didn't you?
Now you're saying JWs are CRAZY, please listen to what people said about our Master during his time:

Many of them were saying: “He has a demon and is out of his mind. Why do you listen to him?” John 10:20

I'm so happy that Jesus' words is fulfilling in my own eyes! Matthew 5:11-12

Thank you once again Sir for validating the words of my Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ!

Even other Christians think you people are jokers

Emmanuelcann:
There is a law of Biogenesis! Life can only come from life.

There is nothing like law of biogenesis in science sir.
Get proper education

ogashman:
I'm in my mid thirties and currently facing this same issue op is facing... Don't even know what to do.

hmm, break out now.
They will laugh out you if you don’t

MaxInDHouse:
Of course everything will follow whatever you have resolved in your heart that's why you can't force it down the throat of others unless they are fully convinced about what you're saying!
As for me evolution is a lie nothing evolves from nothing. God created all things and the living things are producing their kind, period!

Its demonstrable with evidence and experiment sir.

It’s not a from a book of magic

MaxInDHouse:
His understanding (wisdom) is infinite

Doesn't translate to He knows everything including the thoughts going on in the hearts of evil people.
So when you read God's word try to ask for the meaning so that you don't misconstrue the information!

My son, if you accept my sayings And treasure up my commandments, By making your ear attentive to wisdom And inclining your heart to discernment; Moreover, if you call out for understanding And raise your voice for discernment; If you keep seeking for it as for silver, And you keep searching for it as for hidden treasures; Then you will understand the fear of Jehovah, And you will find the knowledge of God. Proverbs 2:1-5

The highlighted in red simply means you shouldn't rely on just one school of thought in this matter, you must be prepared to listen to many teachers and compare their teachings to know where real discernment is!

Now that i've established the fact that God himself said He doesn't know all things all you need to do is strike a balance:
God knows all the thoughts in the heart of his faithful servants that's why He often vouch for them {Job 1:8} as for wicked and crooked people God doesn't even think about them, to him they are as good as DEAD:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God! Psalms 9:17

So if you don't have Him in mind He doesn't think anything towards you, to Him you don't even exist! Luke 9:60

Sorry, Bible stated clearly, god knows all

MaxInDHouse:
Certainly Jesus is always right!

"and you will be hated by all people because of my name". Luke 21:17

Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you!!! for validating the words of our Master, Lord and King: Christ Jesus!

So go out there now and tell the Good News that you've found Jesus' true followers! John 15:8

I will rather become a Taliban that A witness.
Taah, crazy people