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Dtruthspeaker:
I actually don't care!

And I don't think it is important.

And I know that no reasonable person is counting.

All I care for is that this is a really really nice House.

Come to think of it, did you think to ask how old your village is or even the house you were raised in? I know you did not!

Why?

Because IT TRULY WAS NOT IMPORTANT!

ALL YOU WERE THANKFUL FOR IS THAT, YOU DID NOT SLEEP IN THE STREETS AND THAT YOU WERE HAPPY TO BE THE ONE LIVING IN IT.

THATS ALL.

I honestly think that there are so many stupid questions flying around which people have been deceived into thinking they were important.

Whereas, they are not!

Please I am still waiting for the lies in Big Bang theory that you discovered.

I have asked about 10times. No one will take you seriously unless you discuss it.

SSIPON:
Student that wants to be schooled, is calling what He wants to learn, unsubstantiated. I am only calling out your hypocrisy. You calling the big bang unsubstantiated and I am asking you for the evidence of talking snakes. Let's start from there.

Oh and also you have been dodging the other guy's questions.

You see how to contain them?
They can’t discuss science, they will run. They know their ignorance will be brought to light.

Don’t allow them carry you from pillar to post

Dtruthspeaker:
SEE MASSIVE CONVERSION. CHANGE OF POST PLUS REVERSAL OF BURDEN OF PROOF!

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT UNCLE BANG.

AND YOU PROMISED TO GIVE ME LECTURES ABOUT YOUR UNCLE.

And I did not say anything about "talking snakes" here.

So, obviously you are FLEEING!

AGAIN!

AS USUAL!

Please point to the lies in Big Bang.

SSIPON:
You cannot ask a guy who believes in talking animals, suspended day/night cycles, fire falling from the sky, a woman turning salt, humans living up to 900 years, witches/wizard, food falling from the sky, a flaming chariot on a joyride to heaven, a man whose supernatural abilities were in his hair, virgin birth, sticks turning to snakes, a man who was swallowed whole and lived in the belly of a fish, diseases caused by evil forces or something called "sin" to explain science to you. His entire life is built upon immunity to evidence. No waste your time.

I know but we have to hear his concerns.
Dtruthspeaker, please kindly tell us the lies in Big Bang theory.

Dtruthspeaker:
Common do not demand the impossible. Surely I did not keep her in Storage!



CHANGE OF POST!

you only demanded about "Changing to Salt" not DNAs and Atoms and Neutrons and Protons etc.



There is this Factory in Lagos, Amuwo where man, the creator of cars, converts his creation to powder and anything he likes.

Can you tell us the lies in Big Bang theory? Please

Dtruthspeaker:
Erm! Let me go and check for your people's threads for your review.

Come to think of it, you ran away from one of those threads when I took on it.

Can you point to the lies in Big Bang? If yes, please let us know.

SSIPON, are you following?

Dtruthspeaker:
The Law of Nature which States that it is Creators Who Always set how long their creations can last eg the car Porsche was built a humans lifetime.

And it does.



The Law of the First, as the guy who called Motorcycles "Okada" .

The first Always sets the ball rolling.



Again, The Law of A Creator changing its creation from one form to another exactly as changing the Camry into powder.

No big deal for Mr. Toyoda!

please can you reply me by pointing to the lies in Big Bang theory?

SSIPON:
Didn't you see the way He kept quiet. He no want make them open him nyash like the other guy. If you ask him why He thinks the Big Bang is a lie, He would tell you that it makes no sense to him (It is easy to understand why, because He doesn't know what the Big Bang actually is). But He will happily tell you how Animals talked and how a woman turned into salt. The hypocrisy is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

He will reply, maybe he’s checking on google. But he will eventually be exposed.
He cannot discuss a science topic exhaustively.

SSIPON:
You are setting a trap for yourself honestly. He doesn't understand what the Big Bang actually is. If you ask him, He will tell you about an "explosion". That's all he knows lol

Just allow him answer

Dtruthspeaker:
Which came first, is it not Genesis and the Bible?

So how then can be seeking to be compatible with your Lies of Big bang?

Is it not rather that big bang should allign with Genesis for it to be True?

ok, what are the lies of Big Bang?

SSIPON:
Sometimes I feel he is a troll or something.

Cant you see?
It’s obviously, he cannot discuss the topic of creation vis-a-vis scientific evidence and studies.

Force him to do that and he will run out of ideas

SSIPON:
Bitch every fucking religious book claims it was inspired by a certain deity. So who do I accept? Why should I disregard Islam, Judaism, Buddhism and more and focus on yours?

What you don't understand is that, religions come and go. You can't even argue with that, because it's a fact. Religions are born and they die. They must eventually die someday and get replaced by something else.

He is replying to you because you are getting emotional and he has successfully moved you out of the topic to his comfort zone.

Don’t follow him through route.

SSIPON:
He won't, He is afraid, haven't u noticed that since the beginning of this post, I have been begging him for evidence of Adam and Eve and the story of someone living up to 900 years old, but He is dodging it like the slimy snake in his Adam and Eve fairytale

I know, he knows he can’t that’s why he resorts to ad hominem.
Try to force him to stay in the topic, he can’t

Ammishaddai:
Bros , if you like carry Wikipedia and type . But it won't change the fact that you're an unintelligent atheist who can't defend his faith without assumptions

ok, I am still waiting for you to discuss the topic

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] That's the typical strategy you always use when you're cornered . The last time you created that fvcking post of God not existing , I challenged you to provide the burden of proof ,yet you dodged by this very same escape mechanism. But no wahala sha . I go still jam you for another illogical post in the future

I am waiting for you to bring a discussion from the topic

SSIPON:
For those of you reading this thread, I want to keep this quote in mind.

IIt's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” – Bill Murray

Have a nice day.

You can if you force him to stay on the topic. Notice that he's not replying me?

He cannot stay on the topic, I will expose his ignorance, he knows that.

SSIPON:
That is the thing. He keep pandering about. Accusing science of making assumptions. Oya you wey your religion never makes assumptions, what has it achieved?

Science is literally the reason why We can communicate as strangers. The guy na correct werey.

it's because you are following him about.
Force him to stay on the topic, you will see how empty he is.
He cannot discuss a science topic exhaustively. I swear

Ammishaddai:
Are you talking about Christianity or just religion in general ?

SSIPON, you see why you should force him to stay on the topic?
They will be dragging you from pillar to post with fallacies.

Don't discuss anything that has nothing to do with the topic else he will shift the goal post until eternity

SSIPON:
Yes, that is why I have chosen to ignore him. I won't reply him again. Na my data wey I waste on top the nigga I dey regret now.

He won't reply you if you make him stay on the topic.
He will commit blunders if you force him to discuss real science with you. He knows that

SSIPON:
Uhm, Gravity was discovered and so was evolution. Gravity has always been here and so has evolution as long as there is life on a planet. What is your point?

You accuse science of assumptions, so I am asking this question, Does religion make assumptions or not.

Don't discuss gravity with him, it's an unnecessary distraction. He knows nothing about gravity nor evolution, you will see his scientific illiteraracy more if you make him stay on a topic.

He cannot discuss a topic in science for long without making blunders hence he will move from pillar to post

SSIPON:
Hello, excuse me o, Do you understand the difference between a hypothesis and a theory in science? Weren't you thought that a theory in English and a Theory in science are two different things?

Omo if you didn't know this, then there is no need to continue this argument. Have a good day.

Don't allow him use fallacies distract you from the point of the post.

Don't let him drag you around his fallacious lane. Compel him to stay on the topic.

That's how religious people argue. They commit fallacies to create distractions

Ammishaddai:
Oga , it's too early for stupidity. The law of gravity your science peddles up and down was never established. Rather it has always been there . This is an example of a natural law that existed prior to the coming of any form of scientific knowledge. Those who try to explain this law are only attempting to understand it but they can never tell how it was created in the first place. Rather they can only assume...

strawman, the topic is about creation not gravity.

Go and read my post and ask questions from it.

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MaxInDHouse:
Has Science been able to configure the human brains so that humans can willingly surrender harmful weapons and embrace one another peacefully never to think of resolving disputes with weapons? Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Well that same book (Bible) foretold that man can't live peacefully with one another without the guidance from the Author of the Bible {Genesis 2:17} and ever since mankind has been dominating themselves to ruin {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} yet when some humans decided to turn to the book (Bible) a century ago they discovered that humans can form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers even when others around them are still bent on exterminating one another due to lack of Godly wisdom! Hosea 4:6

[/s] strawman fallacy , the topic is about creation and not about science of the brain.

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Your argument is based on laws that actually have no evidences to back their claims. In fact , they lack the necessary proof and merit to even safely call them fvcking assumptions

What laws, mention the laws.

Tell us the laws, let's hear you

Ammishaddai:
You're not giving any evidence because science was founded on already established laws of nature . These already established laws are the excuses you give for debunking the creation of the universe through a God . And to me, that's a lot of bullshit any 10 year old can't buy happily

point to any claim in this post that has no evidence.

Try to read it, I known you didn't read the post

Ammishaddai:
More assumptions that haven't been proven

point to any assumption in the scientific explanations and I will give you evidence.


N\B: But please don’t respond if you don’t know science because you are going to be humiliated

Genesis has a specific order of things.

God creates heaven and earth. Earth was formless and a void, and there was darkness and water.
1st day: God creates light, and divides day from night.
2nd day: God creates a firmament, separating waters above from water below. He also calls the firmament “Heaven”.
3rd day: God separates the waters below into one place so that dry land appears. He then creates grass, herbs, fruit-trees (i.e. flowering trees).
4th day: God creates stars, the Sun and the Moon.
5th day: God creates wild animals.
6th day: God creates domesticated animals and humans.
Big Bang cosmology, stellar formation, abiogenesis and theory of evolution has a completely different view of things:

The universe comes to be. How it happened is unknown. It is by this time incredibly small, smaller than an atom. We know this because the Cosmic Microwave Background is incredibly smooth in temperature.
Inflation epoch. The universe expands rapidly. We know this because of the minute fluctuations in the CMB that are frozen in time.
Matter forms. First as gluon/quark plasma, then as regular plasma. Nucleosynthesis happens and the first elements (deuterium, tritium, helium, beryllium, lithium) forms. Nucleosynthesis happens at about 2–20 minutes after the bang.
Recombination: free electrons and atomic nuclei forms up to form gas, rather than plasma. The universe clears up. CMB is the afterglow of this event. This happens about 380,000 years after the bang.
Dark ages of the universe. No stars have yet formed.
The first stars light up. Population III stars probably burn fast and furious and then explodes, causing heavier elements and leaving neutron stars behind. Population II stars follow, and burn slower, also causing heavier elements and leaving white dwarfs and neutron stars behind. This happened about 0.5–1 billion years after the bang.
Neutron stars collide, some white dwarfs steals matter from neighbouring stars to then explode. These explosions causes the heaviest elements to form.
Population I stars form, with planetary disks formed by the heavier elements.
On one such planet around one such star, life appears. Exactly how is unknown, although we have some pretty good ideas of the general process, from simple chemistry to complex chemistry, chemistry complexes, self-replicating chemistry complexes and chemistry complexes with metabolism in some order, life-like complexes, and then life. This happened about 3.5–4 billion years ago.
Evolution of single-celled organisms. Photosynthesis happens. The Great Oxygenation Event happens, killing off almost all life. Eukaryotes evolve as a response, about 1.2 billion years ago.
Multicellular life evolves, first as colonies, then as multi-celled creatures.
Life colonises the surface, first as lichen, then as other flower-less plants. Eventually, sea creatures evolve to live on land, around 600 million years ago.
Land animals diversifies through evolution. Mammals branch off from reptiles about 240 million years ago. Birds branch off from dinosaurs about 70 million years ago. Flowering plants appear.
One particular branch of mammals evolve intelligence, tool making, abstract language and upright stance, starting from about 3–7 million years ago. Our particular species appear 150,000 years ago. They start to domesticate animals and plants, starting with dogs around 20,000–40,000 years ago. Plants were domesticated around 13,000 years ago.
To reconcile these two views of how the universe and us came to be requires a lot of squinting. I’m not talking about the “day” thing in Genesis; that is a particular use in English, and the Hebrew word can be interpreted as “era” or “epoch” rather than “day”.

However, Genesis and science do not agree on the order or even on the nature of things. For example, the Genesis story explicitly says that fruit-bearing trees (i.e. flowering trees) appear before animals; however, fruits are linked to flowers, and flowers require something to do pollination (insects or small birds) which are only created the following day. The Genesis story also places the creation of domesticated animals before the creation of humans; from archaeology and anthropology, we know that wolves were the first animal to be domesticated to dogs by humans. I won’t mention the “day” thing

So in order to make the Genesis story compatible with the evidence at hand, you have to squint a lot and assume that the Bible authors completely misunderstood when God tried to teach them about big bang cosmology, astrophysics and biology. But hey, that’s at least expected by bronze-age goat-herders who have barely invented writing.

FOLYKAZE:
Interesting topic but would like to see the views of those versed on the subject.

I think it’s hard to disagree. If you don’t follow the media logically, China will seem like the bad guy because America is employing all forms of warfare including media propaganda to stop China.
Just think about the enormous advantages from compelling the world to trade with your currency? You don’t even have to do a lot to become prosperous.

The fact that you can’t buy oil with another currency unless the dollar is huge plus for United States. You will have a problem with U.S If you try to change the status quo as a country. We have seen this so many times.
Though China might have their flaws but in a larger picture, U.S is the problem and China is trying to shift the paradigm.

helinues:
This is one of the article that have been causing problems in the world with half baked knowledge about how things work.

Eish

ok, educate me.
I’m willing to be educated

The current monetary and financial system is in the hands of the Americans who have placed their US dollar at its center.

The fact that the US dollar is the world's reserve currency gives America an incredible advantage. It is as if the rest of the world is paying for the American standard of living. It makes it convenient for them to transfer the inflation in America to other parts of the world by simply printing more dollars. That’s slavery, serious economic slavery they are keeping everyone in.

So the Americans can and do run up their debt ad infinitum as long as they have this exorbitant privilege.

This is the reason why countries like China and Russia are disengaging from the US dollar in an attempt to change things because the American hegemony over the current system seems to them totally unfair.

Of course, it is, but as long as America is the world's leading power, you can't change that.

To be sure to keep this domination over the current system, America has already shown in the past that it is ready to do anything, and especially to use its military power if necessary.

This is why it is frequently said that the US dollar is backed by the US military.

The emergence of China as a potential first economic power in the future makes the Americans fearful and they will do everything to prevent this from happening.

Will they go so far as to use their military power to ensure that they retain their dominance? This is the worst-case scenario, but unfortunately, we cannot totally exclude it.

Dtruthspeaker:
A stupid mannequin that could not get past his fellow mannequin is it now Creator, you can reach?

Person wey never pass common entrance no dey go University, Fool!

Still your god is dead, he can’t defend himself
He’s a useless piece of dead vegetable
One that doesn’t exist at that

achorladey:
So where did the bible say . if your wife leaves you . you cannot do ministry...... Petra


Answer: The Bible says Christians must honour their wives.

In reality no where it is said in the Bible that a man that leaves his wife should not minister.

In this comment is another strawman.

The original questions is “where did the Bible say if your wife leaves you, you cannot do ministry?”

Your answer “The bibles says Christians must honor their wives”. This is another topic entirely and it didn’t even address the question.

It’s strawman. I don’t know how the argument started but it’s strawman by anyone who made it