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Dtruthspeaker:
Because the peoples of the earth are very evil overpouring with sin.

He is not in existence

MaxInDHouse:
You can find the meaning anywhere you like but it doesn't appear in the Bible so don't attach it to God's word and start mocking the Bible when what you actually had in mind is not found written there!

You have been disgraced in this thread. We know you true color.

Tell us the meaning of “omniscient”?
Taliban

MaxInDHouse:
God doesn't have any business with nations outside the lineage in focus (Israelites) so all those claiming they're performing miracles in the name of the God of Abraham are scammers.
The miracles were for a purpose and it ended when the Bible was completed!

whats the meaning of the word "omniscient"?

potential Taliban. Dogmstic dude

achorladey:
The word is not in the Bible yet you will readily accept it usage by your religious leaders in their numerous publications they feed you with week in week out of a word not in the Bible.

Yet when Workch tells you to state the meaning of OMNISCIENT you go to default response, it is not in the Bible.

Can you say so to your religious leaders?

Is this how you convince people to believe in the existence of God?

Two scales everywhere of which your Jehovah says is DETESTABLE

The likes of MaxInDHouse house is the reason alot of people are leaving Christianity.
Dogmas that cannot change, facts have to change to suit their dogmas.
He's actually denying the word omniscient.

I can't believe people like him are alive

MaxInDHouse:
That word doesn't appear in the Bible!

What is the meaning of omniscient?

njelrapheal:
trust me. Typing back and forth may be boring for some that seem interested in this. We can drop a link to the recorded session here.

Hope you will also be ready to provide verifiable evidence for whatever you believe?
Like testable and with peer reviewed data

MaxInDHouse:
Don't allow haughtiness drain you!
The word omniscient never appeared in the Bible and i've told you the reason so whatever you choose to believe is not my business as long as you can't point to the word omniscient in God's word.
So it's either you agree that those who taught you got it wrong or you still to what they taught you about God and Continue mocking them for telling you that God is omniscient when it's not written anywhere in the Bible!

I see you and shout "Jesus".
Why do you like being treated like a pig?

What's the meaning of "omniscient"?

MaxInDHouse:
The word omniscient never appeared in the Bible, but the funny thing here is you are talking about everybody now because you feel like getting support from them whereas you'll abuse the same everybody when they believe in the existence of God!

Yes, it doesn't because we have to educate an animal that omniscient means "all KNOWING".

You are unbelievably fanatic that you even deny English words. You are finished

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala, you're entitled to your opinion!

You are miserable to deny even basic English words.
You a finished dogmatic person, you have IQ of a pig and you really surprised everyone today

Dtruthspeaker:
God CAN NEVER EVER EVER HEAR NOR ANSWER THE PRAYERS OF EVIL, SIN FULL PEOPLE!

HE ALMOST WOULD NEVER DO IT

So it was a waste of time and resources and energy and everything.

God never hears prayers

Workch:
They are both miracles and biblical.
They are both to be believed by faith. Why did you chose one and reject the other?
Are you cherry picking what to believe?

Ehiscotch:
I'm struggling, I'm really struggling with how you think both situations are alike or have the same premises or basis. Such false set of alternatives you all present when you ask questions. It's so hackeyned that your next response will be "just answer the question".

They are both miracles and biblical.
They are both to be believed by faith. Why did you choose one and reject the other?
Are you cherry picking what to believe?

Ehiscotch:
No.

So on what ground do you believe that Jesus was born without fertilization and disbelieve that I am God talking to you in a mysterious way?

truthCoder:
Hold on a bit...

You mentioned the bible. That is a religious book of one of the 4,600 religions humans have invented.

What makes the bible better than the quran or the hindu texts?

Are you implying that just because you believe in the writings in the bible, every other person must believe it? What about the 4,599 other religions?

What gives your own god a final say on a matter that has been in discourse even before he was created?

Now if you go through my prior posts, you would notice that i said the things humans don't understand are immediately attributed to their supernatural being. Are you attributing morality to your god because your inventors didn't understand it?

Again, to show that your premise is flawed, if all morality comes from your god and you also see him as perfect, why does immorality then exist?

Aristotle defines moral virtue as a disposition to behave in the right manner and as a mean between extremes of deficiency and excess, which are vices. We learn moral virtue primarily through habit and practice rather than through reasoning and instruction.

Stop replying dtruthspeaker, he will distract you and devalue the essence of this thread. He's a notorious slowpoke on this page.

If you don't want an unending argument with a slowpoke, leave him and focus on sane individuals

Bacteriologist:
Religions do not share the same concepts. Now, generally you can say that religion contains the same things. But taking a closer view religions approach these things in very very different manners.



True, but what the Muslim would term the spiritual world is completely different from the Christian spiritual world. You will never experience a trinity in the Islam spirit world, for example. As well as some of the spirtual concepts in Islam would be joked about in Christianity. You will find more differences as you begin to consider the spiritual words of many other religions.




I might agree with this.





Again true generally speaking, but the claims of the scriptures and the way the stories of the so-called sacred writings are written are very different in many different religions. Islam claims the Bible couldn't have been from Allah (a.k.a not sacred) and Christians claim likewise that the Quran could not have come from Yahweh.

Each religion believes its own book is the correct book and all the rest are made up. They may all have books, but that's not the point. The claims of the book are not the same in all religions. They contradict one another, therefore they literally cannot be the same.




Some less popular religions do not have an organised structure like spirituality, which is a word for many different personalised religions. Even some popular religions do not have a centralised authority, such as Hinduism and Buddhism.



Most religions do encourage social festivals and rituals I would agree.



Prayer is a common feature in most of the religions that I know of. But some religions do not make an obligation of it. Some religions do not even have a deity, such as Buddhism. So who can they be said to be praying to?



I would agree with this.




Sharing some similar properties does not mean they are the same. Humans share all bodily features with dogs. But that is not to say humans and dogs are the same.
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Now, broadly speaking you could say we are both mammals, but on closer scrutiny humans and dogs are obviously different. All religions share some features, however, are not the same, because they claim different things and their values differ greatly.

This is the reason why all religions cannot all be true. But they can all be false.

I think you did not get his point.
The concept of religion is the same.
The core of any religion is built on fear, sacred rules/sets of vicious rewards for following the rules and the presence of an unproven deity.
It doesn't matter how you design your own rituals or regious doctrines, it will still fall back to these basic principles.

In the eyes of an unbiased independent observer, the Christian God will be judged as another variety of Amadioha or any super-deity following these same listed principles, the tenets only change with regards to region and culture. No difference perse, they are built on the same fundamentals

HellVictorinho:
He will divert or turn your statements upside down


He won't do the needful


So

You should deduce that he is a waste of time


He's still addicted Bible stuff

I will keep asking him until he answers it.

Ehiscotch:
Your understanding of the "mysterious ways" of God is the problem here. It means Buhari can claim to be God. God has a personality and he is not wavering or changing; he is the ancient of days, so No I won't believe you.

He is not going to say "Oh, Ehis. I want to prove you faithful and want you to argue in my favour on Nairaland so I'm gonna register and dispute with you about me". No, instead he creates a situation where I meet an atheist like you.

God has use of everybody but all to his glory and without overriding their freewill. So God doesn't need to be you to Do you.

Just answer the question like this.
Yes

No.

Answer it like that.

Will you believe if I tell you that I am god?

Go on and answer it with a yes or no. I am not interested in your why

Kayberg:
Knowing the One True GOD is not religion/religious.
That's one thing you haven't figured yet because you never wanted to.

say this until you believe it

Ehiscotch:
I would ask why you are doing this and how it pertains to my holiness or godliness. God doesn't do things without purpose.

The question is "will you believe it?"

Ehiscotch:
Because it was a miracle. If you were discerning you would have inferred this from my posts. You know Joseph didn't believe Mary, and was skeptical as you are, "Even in the age were people believed stories of sticks turning to snakes, and an exodus from Egypt and animal sacrifices".

If I tell you that I am God and that I am here chatting with you because I work in a mysterious way, would you believe that?

SSIPON:
So let me get things straight, Job was just minding his business.
Na God first find trouble o.
God began to brag about Job with Satan.
God bets with Satan that Job will not turn away from him.

There are a few things to note here:
1. God is omniscient, meaning that He literally knew that He would win the bet and that Job will not turn against him, but He somehow gave Satan the permission to Bleep Job up.
2. After Job loses everything including his family, God simply replaces them like they are livestock or something . Meaning that innocent children lost their lives over a stupid bet between God and Satan, when God knew fully fell that He would win the bet.

What was that Job story trying to achieve in the first place?

God killed job kids because of a bet with Satan.
A useless narcissist God that kills people for fun. Imagine a God killing you because he wants to test your dad

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
Teach them the things you know so that you'll continue dominating them, but as for humans no matter what you know you'll still need mild-temper and deep respect to convince one! 1Peter 3:15

I don't need much explanation to convince my dog that omniscient and "all knowing" is the same thing.
You are lower than a dog if you argue this, that's why you are been treated in accordance

Ehiscotch:
that is because you all fail to understand the basic definition of miracles: It is a supernatural work of God in natural situations. You many times as atheist say these things cause themselves which has a wider implication on things like reasoning. Is your mind a machine of its own and your actions just reactions? are you a product of some bio-mechanical combinations? God gave man a complete freedom to live on Earth and have dominion of it, naturally, but that doesn't stop God from influencing it at certain times. That's why there was one talking donkey. Why didn't God just take all the Israelites in the air and dump them in the Promised Land? I These are the kinds of questions you all ask.

OK, what is the evidence that Jesus was born without fertilization?
Why are you avoiding that question?

Ehiscotch:
And you believe individual situations are not responsible for whether or not they receive a miracle but you believe this for medicine?

whether or not it's possible hasn't been tested positive.
As a matter of fact,, every attempt to test miracles has resulted in negatives

Ehiscotch:
What I'm saying is that the inefficiencies (or otherwise) of medicine or medical treatment is mostly attributed to the individual. So going by what you said in a sense the individual can most likely be blamed for his failure to get treated.

His lifestyle, genetic make up, adherence to medical directives and so on.

Most ailments are natural sir. It's true that ilfestyle contribute to some but it doesn't jusfity miracles

Ehiscotch:
Let's start from bottom-up. "If Jesus wasn't raised.." If Jesus had lived it wouldn't have mattered how he was born; this wasn't the dispute, many Jews infact, at the time, didn't know of his miraculous conception. If he hadn't resurrected from the dead is the question and all historical evidence (inside and outside the Bible) points to his life and death and his resurrection. You can do your research; it's not a legend at all as more evidence has proven his existence.

This is even the greatest miracle and the backbone of Christianity and not growing a limb or raising a dead to prove to some unbelievers that he exists.

What is the evidence that Jesus was born without fertilization?

Answer that question

MaxInDHouse:
Speak with your pets!

why won't I when I am already speaking to someone less knowledgeable than pets

Ehiscotch:
Start with evidence for the existence of Jesus and His resurrection because like Paul said "If Christ wasn't raised then we are still in our sins; our faith is in vain and we of all men are the most to be pitied" (summary). So if you can prove that Christ was not raised from the dead then we would arguing about abortion and sexuality based on feelings and subjectivity and how we evolved from lower animals and how humans in Europe are "superior" to those in Africa.

what is the evidence that Jesus was born without fertilization?

Ehiscotch:
Humans are so unique that many illnesses are based on individuals.

There are some advice that could be given generally but health is mostly tied down to the individual.

There really is specificity to each patient in most cases.

Most illnesses are not humans fault but how nature works sir. There’s nothing supernatural about it

Ehiscotch:
If you think miracles are enough to convince or convict people of the truth, you ought ordinarily to be right but the Israelites in their day broke laws of God and commandments even when they saw the red Sea parted, saw all what God did to free them from slavery, even how he killed those who broke his law. Like Paul said, there is enough evidence in nature to prove the deity and eternal power of God. You all have no excuses.

How can we verify all these things you People say?

SSIPON:
God can restore eyesight.
God can raise the dead.
God can help you find your lost car keys.
God can heal the sick.
God can change your HIV status.
God can literally glue fallen ears back in place.

But, God cannot restore the limbs of amputees why?

Why is it that the so-called miracles are usually things that are easily faked, like blindness or an HIV test result.

Why do the so called miracles only happen in churches and not actual hospitals??

Because this is hard to concoct

Kayberg:
That's why He had said:
Matthew 11 (KJV)
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²⁸ Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
²⁹ Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
³⁰ For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Religion is the only business that blames the customer for its inefficiencies

Teslason:
From your argument with him, it shows you have a strong belief for evolution.


Well, if it truly happened, why didn't birds change to a smarter animal?
Why are there still apes since evolution shouldn't leave everyone behind?

It's very lame to just assume evolution of man from ape as a correct thing.

Humans are apes, the question is damped in scientific illiteracy sir.