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benji93:
First bolded: Omniscience-meaning God knows everything could easily mean he knows the result of all possibilities. It doesn't necessarily mean he has pre-determined a possibility. That is he allows for all possibilities, but he knows the outcome of each one of them, which means free will can still be accommodated. Now i am not saying this is the case, but this is a perspective that takes in both the Omniscient status of God and the free-will of man.

you mean you carefully read this and it made sense to you?
The fact that you even pray to an omniscient god to change his mind is laughable. Do you guys even think about what you do?
An omniscient god will already know if you will go to hell or not from day one, if your freewill is going to change that then it means he didn’t know in the first place. All just sounds so ridiculous.

Second bolded: What do you mean by reality, as in tangible?In this case you may have to state what kind of evidence you are looking for then we can first decide if the workings of the spirit sometimes/never/always allow for such evidence. If this point is not first addressed the rest would be fruitless.

there nothing like “kind of evidence”, the definition for evidence is simple: if a statement is true then it has to be testable, repeatable and free of probabilities anytime point in time or anywhere. There’s no proof that any form of spirit exist under the confines of testable evidence, people really make exaggerated claims that has been instilled in their psychic by religiosity. The existence of unicorns is as plausible as that of spirits, this because both of them have not be proven to exist.

Fourth bolded: There's certainly nothing divine about reli. For the most part let's say religion/sub-religion/sub-denomination is a compendium of rules. It's meant to guide people. Now whether these rules come from God is another thing entirely. They may and they may not. Now the word divine means of/from God, so if you don't believe in God it's quite unpurposeful to use that term. It's quite unenlightening to use a word when you don't even believe in the existence of the meaning of that word.

The existence of God, and the proliferation of religion are two different things. Do not lump them together.

You don't see anything man. It's quite sad that you think you know a lot to stay on the irreligious side. You can do better.

I don’t know what you are talking about here, we have more than 4,000 recorded religions, none of them has provided any evidence for the existence of their God. The Christian God that I presumably served for 30years always defy reality.

Dtruthspeaker:
A mathematician must give him an answer that will leave his mouth open and unable to answer, which is what I did to you.

And till today, you still do not have a counter.

counter what?
You pretty good at cooking up things.

I am ready for you today.

Dtruthspeaker:
AND YOU STILL DO NOT HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AND VALID COUNTER TO WHAT I TYPED!

counter for what?

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not say Trees, that one is a pestilence and a plague I said "Tree"!

Seems I underestimated your level of ignorance. You didn’t get the point still?

Dtruthspeaker:
The chant you tell yourself everyday so that you do not kill yourself and hasten your judgement.

Meanwhile you can not live with yourself because of the fear of your approaching judgment.

Your problem, you have laid your bed, so you must lie on it.

The only evidence in whatever you typed is that you are dogmatic.

Any other thing hasn’t been proven

Dtruthspeaker:
mathematician, why are you doing ojoro in adding this part after I have answered you?

As a champion will always put a novice to shame, so also a mathematician must give a high answer to the nursery student such that the student's mouth will open and nothing comes out.

Funny how it is student who has answered the mathematician and the mathematician WAS THE ONE SILENT.

KAI! SHAME FULL!!!

Mathematicians will most likely explain to a nursery student that is willing to learn, not a proud ignoramus who want to prove calculus before understanding basic algebra.

Dtruthspeaker:
How do we know when a Tree is Cursed?

We see it withering and dead in the farm.

Trees wither because of diseases, unavailability of nutrient, pests, pollution, stress from wind, compaction of soil, and age. The universe is not going to rearrange itself to comfort your ignorance.

If your belief is in conflict with science then sorry for you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Like the ground under your feet, No one can ever rebut a Truth once it is Established!

That is what God has done!

That truth only exist in your dogmatic head.

God does not exist, if he does, he can’t create someone like you. He will be too perfect to make such mistakes.

Dtruthspeaker:
If you had Truly read the Bible you have known what things God hath said.



The bold: that is why you all dead already. You do not know that that statement means "do not see, do not feel, do not hear, do not smell and do not know" exactly as a robot and idols

So how can you hear all that The Lord has said, or how can you See all that The Lord has done, when he are dead?

Then you wonder why He Said "let the dead, bury, their dead!"

And again you wonder why He Said ..I am The Way, The Truth and The Life!

Nothing in this world is not personal, exactly as building collapse in America has moved you all here, or Chidinma killing another man is making you all shout.

All things are Personal and it is the Living who Feel heat (Anger), Cold (Hatred), smite (Pain) and Sweetness (pleasure)

It is the Living who Feel and See and Hear and Smell and Perceive.

THE DEAD DO NOT! And the counsel of this world is that you should be Unfeeling, unhearing, unsmelling, as the dead are.



I did not judge him, The Most High Judge did, as He Said He shall Do in these last days!

How did you know that the most high judged me?

Dtruthspeaker:
Yet you could not rebut he who you say did not pass elementary science, surely you are worse.

i am not gonna rebut someone who don’t understand elementary science. You should be willing to learn instead.

It’s like a mathematician trying to argue maths with a nursery student.
I can go ahead to show you that you don’t know anything hence can’t be taken seriously

Dtruthspeaker:
I once prove that fact to you and you fell silent and could not speak for weeks. But exactly as God Said, your time has come.

But this is not the issue of thread go and open your own thread.

You can’t prove anything, the last time we spoke, you sounded like you didn’t even pass elementary science.

udoji2021:
Your position about religion is quite interesting. I got your point now.

So does it means that there is no God or a supernatural being greater than humans or you simply believe that organized religion all over the world is a scam?

Sorry for the many questions brother

We don’t know if there’s a God, there’s no evidence for a god.

Even if any exist, he’s obviously not an omniscient that gives freewill, he didn’t create everything in 6days, he didn’t kill everyone on earth in a flood except Noah’s and his family, he didn’t create men from mud and women from ribs 6000yeara Ago.

All the evidence we have says these things didn’t happen. It’s better to say that you don’t know instead of filling the gaps with jargons

udoji2021:
This is deep.

Wish you can tell me more

First of all, I will address your topic. Is it not laughable to think that an omniscient being gives freewill?
How can freewill and omniscience be compatible?
In reality, there’s no evidence for spirits, it’s a lie that dogmatists hold on to even when they cannot prove it.

Your religion is a function of mainly where you were born, how you were bred and the kind of people that influenced your life. There’s nothing divine about it.

We have more than 4,000 religions and every single one of them think theirs is the truth. For someone who was born in IRaq, he thinks that someone born in southeast Nigeria, who’s most likely going to be a Christian will go to hell. It’s vice-versa.

And the lies goes on, we that are irreligious see all these and just allow you people paddle your boats of self-deceit and delusion.

The Christian concept of a god has failed all test and if everyone should be sincere, we know he doesn’t exist. They are just trying hard to hold on to the lies in the stories by concocting more lies.

People will always feel threatened when you tell them their god doesn’t exist even when you present overwhelming evidence. That’s how dogmatism work.

The Christian description of a god is laughable, illogical, ridiculous and overwhelmingly irrational. It doesn’t agree with anything in reality.

Image123:
You should be sorry for the waste you are turning out to be to the world at large. No one needs the level of folly you've tried to spread here, find something tangible to achieve with life. It's bad enough not to have Christ, but to still have no BASIC knowledge and feel so full, it's unfortunate.

Whats your frustration all about?

laiperi:
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you can’t differentiate oil from gas?
Did you attend school at all!

Image123:
Lol, i find it funny that the wannabe atheists usually resort to feeling superior intelligence on Social Media. Meanwhile, reality is otherwise. We the ones that "can't think" top you and flog you blue black from kindergaten to Ph.D and in the various industries and institutions. i'm certain your bosses, supervisors, employers, teachers and parents are in this category of so called people that are in religion that don't think.

That aside, you were not able to give a BASIC example of a finite resource. All you are talking about are things never seen before. Go and learn about waste, just maybe you may be shown mercies to see.

I am sorry if I can not communicate in Moronic language for you to understand.
This is the least I can do

Image123:
Give a basic example seeing you have basic understanding.

Crude oil is finite because the rate of deposition of fossils to form the crude oil is lot slower than rate of exhaustion. Estimate suggest that the global crude oil reserve will last less then 100years and will take millions of years again to replenish.

Resources like forest is also at danger of human population keep growing. Plants are the reservoir for co2 and producers of oxygen. Human growth means more and more deforestation. We will deplete the resources and various environmental hazard like global warming and climate change will set in. The ecosystem will be distablized.

The need for energy also requires mining of different metal reserve to serve the growing population.

It’s common sense na, don’t allow religion stop you from thinking

Image123:
Which resources are you depleting fast. The resources are too vast and too much, one who is truly knowledgeable would imagine that God wasted so much on us.

You lack basic understanding of how it works.

Resources are finite

Believe whatever these men of god say at your own peril

If humans dont die, we will deplete the resources very fast and it will collapse the system.
A lot of organisms including humans will be extinct and by now. This is because the resources is finite and a growing population will deplete it and the ecosystem will collapse.
And by the way, the Adam and Eve story is a lie. It never happened

People also have a great life outside of your Jesus. You must have experienced a placebo effect.

To add to it, there’s no evidence that your Jesus exist.

petra1:
do your research . leave CNN

please just keep quiet, I have taken the vaccine.
Even without it, whatever you said defiles logic

petra1:
pastor chris was right all the whie . the "vaccine " is not a vaccine but a software. it turns human body into a device .

some people who took the jab obseeved their bodies are conducting electricity. and magnet!

Lol

petra1:
they've not turned your switch on yet.

it was moty AstraZeneca vaccine that switch on their "vaccine ahead of time

how you guys even come up with all these nonsense?

2elliot:
You are a very big fat fool! Don't worry. Pentagon is not in a hurry to blow your mind, they will reveal these details small small, while trying to sieve the evidences in order not to feel threatened by religion. But they will finally confess that indeed religious people weren't idiots after all. When religious people of old were talking about demons, angels, gods, God and all the rest of extraordinary phenomenon, they weren't primitive, but were trying to communicate their experiences and reality at the time. "faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen".

kindly take your preaching elsewhere.

2elliot:
Look at all the idiots up there. Just because science called it fancy names like aliens, UFO tech and bla bla bla, no one is questioning it. But it is unbelievable and stupid to believe in God, Satan and spiritual powers, yet the idea of aliens and extraordinary technology don't raise your atheistic deviance thoughts. You all doubted Bible claims of Jesus performing miracles. I thought you all said there is no God, but you would believe if aliens comes now and told you they are behind our creation. Nonsense.

you are scientifically illiterate.
They didn’t say the UFO was alien.
They are two different things.

D

Billyonaire666:
I do not understand the rationale behind the meandering, may be it is shock control and consciousness management. For those who actually have graduated from Religions, and research about God and the Universe, it is very clear that you will end up becoming deeply spiritual after where the threshold that Science could take you. The gateway from othodox science to Spirituality is Quantum Sciences, it is a coherent field that leads to spirituality under the guidance of the Quantum Self.

When you operate from the level of quantum self, you will realize who the Aliens are, they are humans and non humans, we have break away civilizations that survived catastrophies and others who have actually found places to live in Space, their intelligence is in the future of our understanding. We may never catch up with them except you have too inventors. Earth has been here for eons and many advanced civilizations live, some mastered space travel before the cycles of catastrophe, which leads to harvest of souls, call it Last Day. But for those who are able to master space flight and move to other planets using the final phase of propulsion system via Plasma fusion, then you can journey the cosmos at the maximum speed of the simulation. Sometimes they come back to see how yesterdays our intelligence is. Imagine blowing up the planet Earth after Elon Musk, Jeff Besoz, Richard Branson have created a thriving civilzation with their engineers on Mars. Their generations will be flying spaceships while remaning human civilzation on Earth is begining to invent Electricity. Soon, we'd master consciousness transfer, viola we can live a million years and scientific marvel become our core competence. There are Humans who live in our future of intelligence level and they can run simulations such as Earth and even create God afters and laugh their ass off just watching you guys bowing down to their crazy bad ass Avatar.

Some can make this flight using their quantum self, as Spirit and some can build spaceship and fly there physically, others move as spirit and be birth as a human organism or something else. You can even reincarnate or posses a body. Spirit is immortal, embodied or disembodied.

The point of the above is to assure you all, that we are not alone in the Universe. The demons are ETs, but it is not only demonic beings that we know exist, good ones also exist, it is just like human character, you can be good and bad, depends on who you are dealing with. So, this world, I have seen Beings that are not physical as us, but physical nonetheless, you feel their touch and they exist in this world with us outside our physical range of sight. We have a bandwidth issue, they see more than us and have effects on us.

So Pentagon can not tell me that they know the limit to an Alien Intelligence (AI).

Ever since we started shooting objects into the sky, we aroused attention of beings in alternate dimensions and shape-shifters. These beings are capable of becoming what ever they choose to be, and can design simulations and so Space Ship designs is not even a big deal.

We have so many races of ETs, and the governing council that ensures there is peace in the Universe made it a law, the Law of Non-Interference - No tier of civilization should disturb Humans of Earth, but the disobedient Aliens have been visiting Earth against Prime Directive of Non-Interference. The good ETs do not disobey the law, so evil beings have filled Earth, that is why it seems we have more evil and God isnt helping, the issue is, there is a law, so good ETs can only connect to you through dreams to guide you, and through sending signals to your brain like Number Sequences 1111 1212 333 444 2121 etc.

I say, Bleep up any Alien you meet here. We have to clean up the planet so no need to Deny existence of aliens, we know they exist, we talk about demons and angels all the time, so fucck them up.

this is certainly not an alien spacecraft. It doesn’t have to be an alien aircraft for it to be called UFO.
All identified UFOs as a matter of facts are not alien.

From what I have read on this thread, it seems to me that a lot of people think if it’s an UFO then it must have come from outside of earth.

UFO is any flying object you cannot identify whether or not it comes from space. An aircraft from Russia that isn’t in United States Army database, never seen by U.S or cannot be identified by them is an UFO.

Xiaomi1:
God is full of wonders. These unidentified aircrafts are beyond any technology, for now.

Sad method of reasoning

kindlyheart:
if UFO was real, there will be sightings here too and not only in white nations.

Ufo doesn’t necessarily mean that it has to be extraterrestrial object.

Seun, shouldn’t you be removing topic that are science-based but misconstrued by ill-informed individuals?
It’s alarming that conspiracy theorists who can barely provide testable evidence for whatever they say peddle propaganda to discredit years of genuine research by hardworking scientists.