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MightySparrow:
HAS science produced any evidence? If you undersand science, it always discovering. The question is, who created what you are studying? Has science claimed to know the creator? Is big bang theory a truth about creation, in the field of science, it is still a big debate, it shall continue like that. Jesus has come to boldly say 'verily, verily' no more research. Chrisianity is the last bus stop of truth.

like I said, you need to read more than argue.

There’s nothing like creation, no evidence for it

MightySparrow:
Science and technology are related but not actually the same. Science atimes, takes thinking to the abstract. Technology, takes reasonable portion of scientific findings to make human comfortable. For instance, the figure infinity, negative numbers are real tools of science, not of technology. Technology doesn't run on theories, but things that can be related with.
So, to a large extent, science still express faith in theories, and conjectures. Jesus promised resurrection and demonstrated it. Christianity is evidence, if you like because of creed, it is also faith.

No faith in science, science is an evidence based discipline and whatever you say there, without evidence it doesn’t make any sense. Just provide evidence for creation and stop committing the tu quoque fallacy. You can be a scientist and say a lot or jargons, it only holds water if you have evidence, this is not the case with faith

All these your statements is derail the aim that no evidence for creation

MightySparrow:
Science and technology are related but not actually the same. Science atimes, takes thinking to the abstract. Technology, takes reasonable portion of scientific findings to make human comfortable. For instance, the figure infinity, negative numbers are real tools of science, not of technology. Technology doesn't run on theories, but things that can be related with.
So, to a large extent, science still express faith in theories, and conjectures. Jesus promised resurrection and demonstrated it. Christianity is evidence, if you like because of creed, it is also faith.

Lol, technology is the application of science.

You can’t build say internet without applying theory of electromagnetic spectrum.

You can build GPS technology without theory of relativity.

You can send people to space without theory gravity.

You can’t make antibiotics without theory of evolution.
I’m deeply concerned that you don’t know this, we need to improve science education in Nigeria.
I think you should spend more time reading up stuffs before arguing. The essence of argument is to learn and not to win.

Littledove07:
I see!!!.... Now tell me how did u urself came into existence??

My parents had sex and then fertilization occurred and thm I became a developing embryo until my mom gave birth to me.

MightySparrow:
What exactly has science proved? All we study in science are theories. Theory, means the truth is not known. Then you make a model with logic, formula, or diagrams etc. Amy breakthrough in a science is a new question. The search is endless. If I understand your position. The Christian faith has definitely defined it's facts and are not subjected to new facts. Science has not in any way disproved the Bible, rather, Bible people are the exponents of science. Good portion great minds in science has their roots in Christian faith or Judaism

i find it hilarious that you come on internet to ask what science has proven through a mobile phone when these two technologies are products of several scientific theories.

I also think it’s funny that you don’t know that all “scientific theories” have facts. Should I educate you again on the difference between a “conventional theory” and a “scientific theory”?

The Christian Faith is a faith and not evidence or fact, it’s what people believe in like the belief in unicorns and Flying Spaghetti Monster. They are not proven facts

LilMissFavvy:
You should have taken everything that belongs to you before quitting the job. For him to still be able to attack you shows there is a link/connection. In the past, I saw someone, who complained of challenges and bad health just like you, simply because of a passport he had submitted to the boss.....the passport was used as a link by the boss. Your problem can only go through continuous prayers/fasting.

Religion has messed your head a lot.
This is utter nonsense you just typed

I think you are the person holding yourself down because your sense of reasoning is so poor.

keppler:
I want to believe that you wouldn't take Jesus' case as Lazarus syndrome. I just read some of your answers and noted that you may have found enough reasons to justify your unbelief (or simply put, found reasons so that you won't need to belief), but did you bother try looking for reasons to the contrary? I doubt that.

Jesus and the description ascribed to him has not been proven. There’s nothing in reality to point to the fact that such man walked on this planet.

The name “Jesus” in reality even means nothing in any language

keppler:
Jesus is the evidence that God exist, bro.

Jesus is also very debatable. No evidence that he ever walked this planet

MightySparrow:
Meaning?

meaning that I can’t claim to have put a small teaspoon in orbit around the sun, somewhere between earth and mars, that a telescope cannot see then ask you to prove that the teaspoon is not there. The burden of proof is on me.

Genesis made several claims, the onus is on those peddling that claim to prove it not me disproving it. You can’t disprove something that has not been proven.

That’s why the word is called “disprove”, it must have been proven first.

Goodnigga:
You know what, no need of arguing further. If not believing in God has ever benefited you or is benefiting you apart from mere acquisition of knowledge, continue. As for me, you know my stand and I enjoy God. The Spirit called God doesn't reveal Himself to carnal minds or unspiritual mind, for a natural mind understandeth not the things of the spirit for they are foolishness into him. Peace bro!

Thanks bro, remember that there’s no evidence that God exist

MightySparrow:
What are your evidences against Genesis?

That is not how burden of proof works?

Goodnigga:
Hmm, and how come a dead returns to life or resurrects ?

Go read about Lazarus syndrome.

Goodnigga:
I understand your way of reasoning, but are you saying that the psychology is not scientifically rigorous enough? So answer me, what is life? Physical or spiritual? And what makes a body alive or what make it lifeless when dead? What gives life( essence) to humanity?

Life is the ability to make energy from organic substance in accordance with encoded information in your Genome. Any living thing should also have the ability to replicate, transcribe and transplant these genetic information into proteins and transfer them to offsprings. This is the definition of life.

What makes you lifeless is when you can do all of the above mentioned.

Life is given by coded information in the gene transferred from parent to offspring. Every information for life is in the genome.

This is the only evidence we have.

Goodnigga:
psychologist called spirit ( subconscious mind) & soul( conscious mind). Moreover, spirit are intangible and non-visual to any telescope. For astrophysics, if any planetary body, from planets, to sun, moon, satellites make an error or inaccuracy for a fraction of a second, the world will cease to exist. Just the Mars steering away from its orbit will cause catastrophe to the earth.

You should read more astronomy, you seem to be portraying sciolism is that regard and I am not willing to educate you.

There is no evidence for spirits, it there is, it would have won the Nobel prize. The status of psychology as Whether its science or social science is still debatable .Because psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability. If you had said Neuroscience then I would have taken you seriously

Littledove07:
Sorry bro.. You are looking for an evidence of God existence. Stop acting like an unbelievers
The account of creation
The biology of your body system
The air you breathe in
These are some of the evidence of God's existence
The prophecy of the bible now also prove Gods existence
The foolish one says in his heart there is no Jehovah God their actions are corrupt and their dealings are detestable no one is doing good. But Jehovah looks down from heaven on sons of men to see whether anymore has insight whether anymore is seeking Jehovah. The account of psalm 14:1&2

Account of creation has no evidence, it’s full of inaccuracies and inconsistencies.

The presence of blood or air is not evidence for your god or creation. I don’t see how it correlates. Your argument is distorted and lacks substance

Goodnigga:
evidence of creation, life and universe. And the fact that science could not manufacture life, meant life had a sole maker. Evidence of accuracy of movement of planetary bodies, gravity, electromagnetic laws. That we are all spirit with a soul living in body

Theres no evidence for creation of life and everything.

Because science cannot create life is not evidence that your imaginary friend did it. It’s only evidence that science cannot Create life abinitio. Fallacy of straw man

Out of one accurate planetary bodies, we have several inaccuracies, you should read more astrophysics.

There’s no evidence for spirits and souls

Goodnigga:
therefore Atheism is the definition of ignorance about God. The day you know you will believe. By the way I was almost an agnostic before believing in God. I am a philosopher too and a researcher into universal laws. So when I tell you that there's an entity or Spirit called God, believe. Not because I am religious but because I did my outside-biblical research that proved his existence

If there’s evidence for God, no one will debate it. It’s debatable because there is no evidence.

No one debate the maker of Toyota Corolla because there’s evidence. It’s a fallacy of appealing to authority to believe you just because you are philosopher.

You need to provide evidence irrespective of your status

Goodnigga:
from your parents ad infinitum? And to cell, to to atom and sub atomic particles and finally energy, who created them?

We don’t know.

Goodnigga:
Now I see! And how did you(life) come into existence?

Through my parents

MightySparrow:
All religions have rites and creeds, Christianity stands out in that it is only religion that gives credible origin of creation, traced human existence to the first pair, accurately tells us the reason for suffering, and solution to it. It accurately predicts the programme of the world: past, present, and future. The only religion that his key figure promised resurrection and demonstrated it. While others tell about principles and laws: Christianity demonstrates laws and principles in practical, acceptable way. It is the most criticised, yet waxing strong, transforming individuals and nations.
Christianity is the only true religion.

Whats do you mean by credible origin of creation?
I’m sure you know that there’s no single evidence for genesis.

Goodnigga:
then it will stop at your own God. Tell me his name with proof that he is god

I am atheist

Goodnigga:
Banal argument, then who caused the Cause that caused God. This is an unnecessary chain reaction question.

So how do we figure where the chain stop?
Why must it stop at your own God?
This is why it will turtle all the way down

I’m curious, why do you think your religion is the truth and the remainder 4,199 are false?

Dtruthspeaker:
"If I build a house!" ARE YOU NOT THE CREATOR OUTSIDE of that house when you build it?

Are You Not Always Outside the house until you choose to go visit it and even enter it, at your will and pleasure?

That was my point, Creators are Always Outside and Beyond their creations.

I did not say that A Creator can not enter inside its Creation, So ANOTHER CHANGE OF POST AGAIN!

Therefore, you still have no reasonable and valid counter!

Its no longer funny but you sense of reasoning is laughable. Seriously, I am surprised that a human can have such low intelligent quotient.

Goodnigga:
obviously, you are not a scientist, of which I am, secondly, read Einstein work on relativity and big bang theory too. Christian God? The Christian God is the universal God not because of religion but being a researcher all universal laws conform to the expressions of the bible.

It seems you just started reading up about stuffs. Theory of relativity never talked about cause and effect.
If everything has a cause then god must have a cause, if you exclude god from the rule then you would have committed a fallacy of special pleading.

Go and read about “turtles all the way down”.

temiyato:
I will advice u to pray and ask Jehovah to reveal himself to u. God is alive, am a testifier of his great work.

Your personal experience is not evidence, it’s just your bias.

Goodnigga:
Anyways, Does God Exist? Yes! Who is GOD,? A Spirit being know as the First Cause. Science says everything manifested in the universe has a cause. The light in the universe is from the sun, the water is from the seas, the humans come from other humans ad infinitum. This, who caused the universe to appear? In the days of Albert Einstein et al, it was discovered that the universe had a beginning. If it had a beginning, then who began the universe? It must have been an entity who is above the universe and not physical that brought forth the universe. God the Spirit can only the known by the Spirit and Word(truth). He can't be deduced from empirical analysis or experiments.

Science did not say everything has a cause, that’s your own version of distorting fact to suit your argument.

Even if god exist, there’s about 1 in 4,200 probability that it’s the Christian God.

Cabble4:
*I would have been so sad if I was indoctrinated by any church. It would have limited My scope in understanding scriptures.
Gladly, the Bible is a spiritual book anyone can accessed and God Almighty is readily available to bring elucidation where necessary.
*I wish you will be alive when that great day comes, where you wouldn't need faith because God will be THE REALITY and not an UNSEEN REALITY* .I bet you, you have never heard this last paragraph.Oh yea! THAT DAY IS COMING!!!

okay good for you. Whatever rocks your boat.

Gambit23:
Wow.

This sounds stupid sha

I am glad you now realize how stupid it sound to say a god created you without any evidence.

Gambit23:
Nice.

So who created u?

The Flying Spaghetti Monster

Cabble4:
*I admire your drive to sound enlightened. As said, the Bible doesn't make sense at all. There is no correlation or alignment about the bible looking at it from a logical perspective which you are coming from. But, I must stress, the Bible and God Almighty didn't make it possible to be understood with human wisdom because they are foolishness to Him. So, I agree with your submission that, you couldn't find or see God. However, a day is coming when all eyes shall see him, even you will eat your words, Revelation: 1:7.

Its okay if you vomit everything they use in indoctrinating you everyday in church. However, you have to realize that the indoctrination won’t work on some people.
If it’s foolish then it’s foolish, it doesn’t matter how you try to make the foolishness enticing and try to cover it, it’s still foolish.