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Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:40pm On Jan 28, 2023
LordReed:
Because you said no one can know, that is not something that can be determined at the moment.

No I don't know. It doesn't look possible because of the energy required but who knows there might be work arounds we don't know about yet
if I ask you if a God exist and you give this second answer, would that not be pure Agnosticism?
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:33pm On Jan 28, 2023
Bacteriologist:
Just because you think something is impossible doesn't mean it actually is. Skepticism teaches never to be 100% certain about anything.
So it's possible that a God exist l?


100 years ago the humans of the time would have said it was "practically impossible" to suspend a 5000kg piece of metal in the air. Today, we have airplanes.
does this also apply to God?

Even the idea of smartphones would have been totally impossible to humans living as early as 30 years ago. Today we have chatGPT.

It is self-absorbed to claim that just because evidence of a creator hasn't been provided now it never will. What you can do is argue for god being unlikely or why theists haven't provided evidence despite the time that they have had to do so.
atheism will be dead if you apply this logic to the existence of God

But it is ignorant to claim it is impossible to provide evidence for a God.
Everything cannot be possible, it's a fact. There are something that will be impossible, it's how the universe works.

Same with time travel, as science continues to discover new things and make bigger breakthroughs, who knows what is possible in the next 20 or 30 years.
sincerely, we have been doing trme travel since before the first MAN was lunched to space, but if you mean time travel like going back to live with dinosaur? That's fiction.
The layman's understandkng of time travel and that of science is different.

Agnosticism is a very valid position. I do agree with you on some level that we can never be too sure of anything and hard theists (that claim there is a god) and hard atheists (that claim there is no god) have the burden of proof.

But in the same vein, if you're truly trying to be as skeptical as possible, you cannot claim that it is impossible to prove god or in fact prove any other thing.
Trying to know what happened before big bang is like trying to move an object with mass at light speed.

It's not possible in mathematics, in reality or in anyway you want to think about it.

You know why? You will mathematically need infinte amount of energy to move any object, that is as little as 0.000000001 micrograms heavier than light photons at that same speed. It means that you need to use up all the energy in the universe and it will not still get at that speed.

Some things are impossible. Everything cannot be possible.

Same applies to looking back to before big bang, because "before big bang" doesn't not exist in science.
My point is, some things are impossible because repeatable evidence says so.

It's same reasons why I don't think the christian God is possible. Evidence says to
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:21pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Where did i say he used fossils to proof evolution?
Can you screenshot it?
here.

This picture

Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:17pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Alright man, i also want to say that darwin worked on pre existing facts, evidences and he also craft his own evidences to arrive at his conclusions.
How does this mean that Darwin used fossils to proof evolution? Tell me
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:13pm On Jan 28, 2023
LordReed:
I don't know if no one can know but we don't right now so the best we can do is speculate. I just like my own speculations to have a bit of reality in them.
So why can't you just leave it at you don't know instead of you don't know if no one can know?

Secondly, do you know if we can travel at the speed of light?
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:12pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Waiting
I take that back, darwin knew about fossils but darwin never knew how fossils got there.

The first person to argue fossils for evolution was lamarck. He did that more than 20years after Darwins death. I was wrong thee
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:06pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Waiting
lol, this guys.

Atheists know how to ask for evidence, but they runway when you ask them too 😂😂

I'm sure that everyone will now see that Atheism is just same idea with theism but from an opposite angle.

Both runway from evidence when it's not in their Favour.

Bye dude
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:03pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
What year was fossils found?
Darwin didn’t know about fossils right?
show me where he linked evolution and fossil in the book
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:02pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
What year was fossils found?
Darwin didn’t know about fossils right?
just open the book and show me where he linked evolution with fossil


hey here, download the Darwins paper for natural selection.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.vliz.be/docs/Zeecijfers/Origin_of_Species.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjI1Lq9tur8AhUjgP0HHTvqD1oQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw0uatI9ajtKJqqiZsJU-Q7e

Go through it and show me where he provided fossil evidence
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:01pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Darwin didn’t know about fossils right?
hey here, download the Darwins paper for natural selection.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.vliz.be/docs/Zeecijfers/Origin_of_Species.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjI1Lq9tur8AhUjgP0HHTvqD1oQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw0uatI9ajtKJqqiZsJU-Q7e

Go through it and show me where he provided fossil evidence
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:01pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Don’t believe me.
What year was fossils discovered again?
hey here, download the Darwins paper for natural selection.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.vliz.be/docs/Zeecijfers/Origin_of_Species.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjI1Lq9tur8AhUjgP0HHTvqD1oQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw0uatI9ajtKJqqiZsJU-Q7e

Go through it and show me where he provided fossil evidence
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 3:00pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Don’t believe me.
What year was fossils discovered again?
should I share a link to download Darwins original paper so you can show me?
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:59pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Don’t “believe” me.
Read slowly.
is that from Darwins paper? On the origin of species?

If you point to anywhere on Darwin paper, where he used fossil evidence to demonstrate evolution, I will believe you.

I'm willing to change.

I can give you a link to download the paper
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:58pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
And i have proven to you that agnostics cherry pick when they use their logic.
If you show me evidence of Darwin using fossil to explain evolution in his paper, I will believe you.

Show me
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:57pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
So you have no evidence for your “deistic god”?

Agnostics are hypocrite oo
this was after Darwin, show me in the original paper, origin of species where darwin presrned fossil evidence.

If you show me, I will believe you
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:56pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
He did.
I have proven to you that both ahtiestd and theists will not provide evidence for their claims when questioned.

It's what you re doing
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:55pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
The start of this argument is you using that logic, then let’s start afresh, it seems you don’t even believe the logic, you cherrypick it when you need it
So you have no evidence of Darwin using fossils as evidence.

I am right when say that Atheism is not really different from theism. But have no evidence for anything they claim
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:54pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
According to your logic too grin
You see how amusing the logic is?
So hawking didn't provide evidence for hwaking radiation.

Good to know that we are on the same page
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:53pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
I’m using your logic, is it only meant for theists?
Then use your logic to give me evidence that hawking provided evidence for hwaking radiation since you made the claim and he did.
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:52pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Which of the gods?
atleast one of these Gods can exist since an absence of evidence is not evidence for absence according to you.
😂😂
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:51pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Show me that he did not, absence of evidence is not evidence of absent abi
I really cannot believe that an atheist would be force to say this 😂
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:50pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Show me that he did not, absence of evidence is not evidence of absent abi
Dude, you shot yourself here 😂😂
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:49pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Show me that he did not, absence of evidence is not evidence of absent abi
does this also apply to God?
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:49pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Atheism is the opposite of theism, you don’t know? Bwahahahah
of the same coin
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:48pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
So, He just woke up one day and made a blank statement, i see.
If that's not the case, then show me evidence of him providing evidence
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:47pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Show me that he did not, absence of evidence is not evidence of absent abi
does that also apply to God?
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:47pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
You said nothing, Philosopher means lover of wisdow. He was a physicists.

He just woke up one day and made a blank statement, i see.
So show me the evidence Hawking provided for hawking radiation.

I am still waiting
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:46pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Exactly 😁
So if you say Darwin provided fossil evidence, show me that he did.
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:45pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Show me where he did not.
you see why I said atheist are theists are different sides of same coin?
😂
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:44pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
Show me where he did not.
you are sounding like a theist now 😂
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:44pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
I thought he was a physicists not a philosopher cheesy
Well, I surprise you don't know that theoretical physicists are scientific philosophers.

Is that not why you cannot provide any evidence he himsldf provided. You would have seen it on thr internet iif it is available
Christianity Etc › Re: Agnosticism by Workch: 2:42pm On Jan 28, 2023
Maynman:
yes.
show me where he provided fossil evidence in his paper, origin of species 😂😂😂

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