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Maynman:
An agnostic claim they don’t if a god like zeus can exist or not.
They should tell us why they think a god like zeus has the ability to exist.

Agnostics are afraid of their former religion gods.

very correct 👍👍

Maynman:
Only fellow deistic worshippers think their argument is superior.
Tell them to tell us the origin of the meaning of god/deity, they fold

I totally agree with you on this 😂😂

LordReed:
What part of I AM NOT INTERESTED is giving you a problem to understand?

The thing is,

Deism and atheism are superior to religious theism.

Deism and atheism falls flat in the face of Agnosticism.

Agnosticism will use each of them against each other to edge both.

LordReed:
What part of I AM NOT INTERESTED is giving you a problem to understand?

Why do think theists that are fighting cognitive dissonance avoid religious discussions with atheists?

😂

Maynman:
Only fellow deistic worshippers think their argument is superior.

You CLAIM a god that has all this power to be a creator but doesn’t intefere.
A Sango worshipper CLAIM that sango is the creator and interferes.

Different gods, different characteristics bwahahahah

you are very correct 😂😂

LordReed:
Huh? You have to be kidding me. I should address deist claptrap I am not interested in? Guy, go address that if you wish, I am not interested. LoLz.

I see you portraying cognitive dissonance now.

If not then why running from a deistic argument if it's not superior to yours?

LordReed:
Because it is only Lavosier you mentioned.

Which goalpost is being moved here? You are talking about the history of phlogiston and only mentioning Lavosier as if he was the only one who conducted experiments on it. Lavosier's experiments built on others that came before him.

I have gone through the thread, I think you have been shifting the goalpost a lot.

When he answers this, you leave it and create another one.

Try to exhaust his points, when he addresses one, agree with it before moving to another.

Maynman:
Stop running.
As an agnostic why do you think a god like zeus has the ability to exist?

But I agree with na, what's now the purpose of arguing when we are now on the same page 😂

Maynman:
The agnostic position doesn’t make sense.
They claim they don’t know if any god exist or not?
Why do they think any god has the ability to exist or not?

ok, I totally agree with you.
Can i rest now? 😅

Maynman:
Why do you think a god like zeus has the ability to exist or not?
Why do you think any marvel character has the ability to exist or not.

No one is talking about God of zeus here or marble characters.

See please, I don't have the energy for back and forth

jaephoenix:
Good. You said the proposer of phlogiston based it on logic. Is religion based on logic?

There's nothing absolutely wrong in being wrong. I use to be an atheist myself until I encountered strong argument about deism on quora that revealed the flaws in my reasoning.
Atheism is not correct, Agnosticism is the best approach.

The issue with most atheists is that they cannot handle being disproved. It the same thing that happens to theists. If you were a theist before now and you left, you should also leave atheism when you see a superior argument. It's what I did.
The decision is yours to make

I do not have the energy for long debates anymore, it's why I am not engaging much here.

Maynman:
How did you come up with a thing, that’s that powerful, with all his attributes and also doesn’t interfere?
Using monotheism thoughts?
Then which particular god? Yahweh?

I was an atheist, everyone knows that. After encountering deism, I had no option that to turn to Agnosticism because I change my ideas when I see new development.

I don't argue for argument sake. Until someone proves or disproves a deisric God, atheism remains a flaw

Maynman:
Which of the gods?

deistic god. The one that doesn't interfere

Maynman:
You don’t know what “atheism” means, yea maybe they can help you out.

is good to see you on this thread, being scared of outrightly saying that God doesn't exist because you have seen a superior argument.
🤣🤣🤣

Maynman:
How did you come with a deistic theos?

Why is the question so difficult for you to answer? 😂😂🙂

Maybe unknownunknown, Bacteriologist or LordReed can help out

Same thing I was trying to explain to Maynman yesterday

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Since I am not voting for him, no need to answer

drlateef:
You have no brain at all. Call your fellow zombidiots to lend you some grey matter. Who’s talking about federal revenue. We are talking about creating jobs, easing the burden of petrol subsidy through the refinery and many other economic opportunities for the state and federation at large. You are so daft with your response. Please don’t respond if you can’t think deeply about what you are writing.

Stop crying, your nonsense lies has been busted

Midehi3:
Oh, APC urchin, bye bye dear

I am not an APC supporters

Midehi3:
Lol @credible election have you seen what happened in Osun?

yes, what's wrong with it?

So if APC doesn't win then it's credible?

Ajomulala:
I was passing through somewhere in my area one day and then I came across a baba ijebu shop owner using a solar power to power his shop. Then I stopped and asked him how much he got it, he told me the amount he bought it. He said monthly sub is 4k he said he used to subscribe it monthly.

I have a plan to buy a solar power this coming month so I want to know...... do they use to subscribe solar power?

Please I need this answer urgently

yes, I work for a solar energy company and our product is on subscription basis.
You cannot use it unless you have subscription on it, It was probably our product that you saw.
We are the top solar subscription plan providers in the country

LordReed:
An agnostic atheist. Though these days I can't help but feel like an igtheist.

okay, great

He's not going to involve himself in vote buying

Midehi3:
But it is affecting the common man, i have been searching for new notes since morning till now none


How are we sure the hoarders/politicians have not collected all the new notes from all these corrupt bank MDs, managers CBN said there is enough notes, bank says no enough new notes in circulation

is it betrer to suffer for one month in other or have credible election that can decide your 8years?

For the first time, I have to agree with Buhari

IMAliyu:
I've read through the thread and I don't fully understand the disagreement between you workch.

Agnosticism and Atheistism are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

A statement like, I don't know if any deity(s) exist, but I don't believe in any because "insert reason here". Is possible.

As for the plausibility of the existence of a singular deistic god over multiple, I think this is more of a subject of individual bias.

workch is correct in his statement that it's not possible to invalidate the deistic god claim, as no disprovable or narratively contradictory attributes are assigned to it.
But this is a matter of the claim being made.
Someone could equally create a similar claim to the deistic god's, but just add the possiblity of there being multiple gods and that wouldn't be any less disprovable, as long as no narratives or attributes are assigned to them.

A statement like "multiple beings with power and knowledge beyond what any human brain could ever grasp, were responsible for constructing our reality"
This to me would be indistinguishable from the deistic god claim, and is equal plausible and undisprovable.

I am tired of arguing with him.

It's not gonna end, he likes long unending arguments

Bacteriologist:
Like I said, there are gods that can be demonstrated to not exist based on logical inconsistencies.

But broadly speaking, I would agree. "Based on available evidence" is a valid caveat.

all gods can be demonstrated not to exist except from certain concepts of deistic gods

Bacteriologist:
Correct. But you have completely gone off the rails here my friend.

I am neutral because:

"There is no current evidence for or against god"

IS DIFFERENT FROM

"I am neutral because it is impossible to provide evidence for or against god."

The latter is your initial position. Kindly stay on it and don't deflect to the former.

And FYI, there are gods that can be shown to not exist as a result of logical contradictions.

it's more like, I am neutral because ntheres no evidence for or against God and its impossible to know if God exist or not based on available evidence.

LordReed:
It would be an agnostic answer and that's exactly the kind of answer I would give about the subject of the existence of gods.

okay, i thought you were an atheist

Bacteriologist:
I know how time travel works. You're making this assumption based on our current understanding of science. A human living before planes were invented would also give you the mathematical impossibility of why a Metal couldn't possibly be suspended in air using density equations.

Like I said, all that's required is a breakthrough in science and time travel in any manner could be possible. It's all about keeping an open mind. Skepticism does not teach close mindedness.

And the fact that it is possible for evidence for god to be provided does nothing to invalidate the claim of an atheist. An atheist, quite simply, suspends belief until evidence is provided. So, the fact that evidence for god has not been provided (yet) very well justifies the position of the atheist.

As usual, all your claims of something being impossible doesn't mean they actually are. You seem to be confusing "improbable" with "impossible." Please look into the difference of these two terms.

I am making my assumption based on the current available evidence. The difference is evidence for or against. Skepticism means that you follow the evidence no matter what.

We have evidence That you cannot travel at the speed of light or see anything beyond big bang. There are proofs even in mathematics for that.


There's none for or against God. That's the difference for me.

Another example is, it's impossibe for someone to enter a wall, we have evidence for this. We can test it.

We cannot test "God exist or God doesn't exist" its why I am neutral