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acunon:
Lg 50" 2014 WEBOS SMART TV is available for urgent sales
Model code : 50LB630
Price:150k

FreeWorld23:


Some of you people votes here have won a 75k cash prize plus a sponsored trip to spa for my contestant lanicky. we are coming back to show appreciation to those that voted us ONLY. God bless.

AZUH:
@freeworld23 leave me alone Na . I am contesting for rep or senator not position on nairaland . Leave me abeg . If you want to know people that has family problem check this forum . How person name go be back2sender ? Agarawu ? So better name don finish for this life ? I just want to becareful . I nor wan follow anybody share him sin oh .

EgunMogaji:
Hell has frozen.

I'll play baba Ijebu this weekend cause luck is in the air.

FreeWorld23:
https://www.nairaland.com/3186985/miss-nairaland-contest-2016-grand. I vote Lanicky. Nljega.

3strikes:
Write2obi na you write this or was your account hacked? Nothing God cant do o.

spyder880:
Just before we all witness a violent action in this thread and section. Somebody should please help us call the moderators. NOW!!!

I am getting more uncomfortable browsing this particular thread everyday.

@Brabus, please keep off this talks as it is not helping matters. Please allow for good dialogue and eventual settlement of this matters.
@Qc1, please control your emotions and keep off these page if need be. We need to rest this issues until someone comes in to resolve all these.

Thank you all for your understanding.

n3xt:
They do if they can afford it. They do not if they cannot afford it. Where will the money come from?

Beside, remember this is not a design and build contract. It's owner-managed build. I only supply the labours.
So I can never impose any of my suggested fix.

That explains the reason I walked away when I saw the low budget for the perimeter walls. I knew it wasn't going to work and it never worked.
I hope you remember the fence fell 48 hours after it was done. That was a clear warning signal that you don't DIY all terrains despite how it makes you feel.

EgunMogaji:
You know exactly what it was because you and I discussed it in detail.

We're still waiting for you to say amen to the prayer did for you and to post a successfully completed project done by your lobbying benefactor

#MySignature

EgunMogaji:
Village roof

mufutau55:
And Yes. That is how it's supposed to be done, inside your plot ... encroachment should not be promoted...

Hajji M.

Aspireahead:
Is Ebenebe parr of Awka...yes I know it is in Awka North but I don't think it should be referred to as Awka as the place is still undeveloped... at least in 2011 when I left

spyder880:
@ all,

The ideas we share here are all lovely, thought provoking and innovative. I am from the school of thought who strongly believe in the practicals.

The discourse on windows protectors that will serve the 3 needs of safety, security and aesthetics should be "test constructed" for our inspection. One of us should volunteer 10k, we bring in one of us who is good in burglary proof and then he builds it with pictures for us to see. Where is Muyesky? I can vote N10k for a sample window which will solve the 3 needs.

If I have time I will sit down with a welder and construct this, but I will work in 4 states this week and time will be so scarce.

We need practical works.

EgunMogaji:
Dude tell me about it.

Hence why I started the small garage apartment.

Once I seal the main house (roof, doors, windows) then I'll jejeli come back to working on the small house.

Don't read roofing and window quotes unless you're sitting down

Dieumerci:
Good.

Pls clarify whether the prices you quoted for tiles are per carton or per square metre.

What about iddis tiles?

agarawu23:
Nice building for sale in ajah for 45m (neg)

We should start doing something different like this and not the everyday nja design

write2obi:
We are not our resume, we are our work.

Best price ontop best customer service.

Oblinks Integrated Service Nig.

n3xt:
In what? Ram fight!

spyder880:
My man, I had slept early yesterday so let's do this comparison later at night, got to travel this morning.

spyder880:
My brother, I no Follow ooo

Our work is a type of business that is so intricate that it's difficult to avoid a quarrel, but I am always trying to build a relationship and not just build a house. I want to remain friends with everyone I build for or sell lands to. I left my former place of work (a comfort zone) to do something better with my life. This is my chance to write my name in gold. This is my time to make my name a household name so my descendants will be proud of my work. I am settling a money quarrel between my supervisors as I type this morning.

That said, I still believe we all make mistakes, and that men have a huge possibility of changing for the best when properly corrected. Let us speak more about reconciliation and promotion of better building ideas here. I greet all.

FastShipping:
Pandora Ko, bees shack ni. You all should do your due diligence before engaging anyone to build your house. I let few people close to me know what happened and they were my witnesses to this.

One thing I won't do is to get into childish unending character assassination that goes on here or destroy someone's livelihood. This life is good and the bad. You take each one as they come.

When Brabus saga came up few times, I voiced my opinions and displeasure and moved on. One thing I won't do is to come here on daily basis and act like a girl who got jilted. I feel for Qc1 and others who lost hard earned money. It is painful to go through what they went through after losing millions. So who am I to lose approximately 500k when oga Qc1 lost millions.

For those who want me to mention name, sorry I won't. I have dealt with the issue privately and advised the so called engineer. He promised not to disappoint anyone in the future. If he likes, he yields to my advice or do the opposite.

lastpage:
I have culled this three responses, to shed light on this discussion.
I have asked a question in my previous post (which probably started this discussion today): Why have we not seen Hajj M come here to called someone a fraud and attack him the way some are doing endlessly, despite been aware of what is going-on?
I suggested it was due to MATURITY.... and Hajj's post above has vindicated me on that.

Now, let me say a few things that would nto go down with some people on this thread:
We are all different...in so many ways. Some are here just to ridicule others. some are here just to inflate their tiny ego! Some are here just to 'dance the flow'. Some are here to share their wealth of experience. Some are here to learn. Some are here to "validate" their insecurity. Some are here to 'feel among' and love to "gang-up" against others. Some are l little bit of some of the things...... but no one here can claim PERFECTION. We all know were we fall.

Having said that, we need to distinguish between a few things:
1.) "exposing a fraud/Criminal/Charlatan" Contractors (Which l agree is good and necessary). The only way to prevent them from scamming
someone else is to expose them.

2.) Character Assassination: This have two dimensions in defining it.

a) General/English definition: the act of saying false things about a person usually in order to make the public stop liking or trusting that person. It is also the slandering of a person, usually with the intention of destroying public confidence in that person

b.) Legal Definition: Character Assassination refers to the slandering or vicious personal verbal attack on a person with the intention of destroying or damaging that person’s reputation or confidence. In other words it is malicious verbal assaults designed to damage or tarnish the reputation of a person. Once done, these acts are often difficult to reverse or rectify. Therefore it is likened to a literal assassination of a human life. The damage sustained can last a lifetime or, for historical figures and important personalities, for many centuries after their death.

It involves a deliberate attempt to destroy a person's reputation, especially by criticizing them in an unfair and dishonest way when they are not present. It can also involve exaggeration or manipulation of facts to present an untrue picture of the targeted person, double speak, spreading of rumors, innuendo or deliberate misinformation on topics relating to the subject's morals, integrity, and reputation. It is a form of defamation.

3.) Exposure with intent to warn others and to assist the "accused Contractor to turn a new leaf": In this instance, the aggrieved Client will expose the Contractor so as to warn others but will at the same time, leave room for the Contractor to confess his sins, ask for forgiveness and promise to not repeat such in future and to get better! This type of "EXPOSURE or not keeping quiet", benefits everyone and up-builds us as humans.

Now, looking at the definitions above, you will agree with me that a WICKED, FRAUDULENT CONTRACTOR cannot claim that "his character is being assassinated", when he is EXPOSED to the public, by an aggrieved Client.

But you will also agree that Character assassination, goes beyond JUST EXPOSING the criminal contractor, so as to warn others... it involves taking additional and further steps to COMPLETELY DESTROY THE PERSON, for personal and wicked reasons. More like the "Legal Definition".

This is what some of us here want to do to Brabus. Some of us here want to completely KILL HIM! That is not what a decent humanbeing should do.
*Yes, you expose him so that others will "keep their eyes open" when dealing with him.
*You expose him so that he knows people are watching him
*You give him the opportunity to "reform and turn a new leaf" (One of the reasons l keep jumping on Brabus's back, from time to time, with "encouraging comments", because l want him to get better
*You ask him to come clean, make amends and even help him to get better.

What you need not do is keep tarnishing his image for MONTHS, keep "assassinating" his personality" (Some even carry this on their head when they have never given him a job to do, cry more than the bereaved and generally just want to KILL HIM and his Family).

The question is: WHY... and what do you gain from totally destroying a young man... because he made mistakes!


Let me say this here: A lot of us would have made some of the mistakes Brabus or some other Contractors made if not that "we learned from their own mistakes and improved on it". So, their mistake is our own benefit, somehow.

There are people here how dont know "jack" about construction and stylishly ask questions because they are too arrogant o agree they dont know "jack" ... yet they are the "leaders and champion" of the "crucify-him-brigade"! What smelly hypocrisy is that?

I dont want to focus on Brabus per say but l know that he is refunding the money of the fake approval back to Maverick! That is a positive
I know that he is in discussion with Qc-1, on how to correct the problems in that building and salvage the situation. That is a positive
But l have a problem with him trying to defend himself too much, at all cost, with some hint of arrogance that upsets the Client and everyone else.
*We have told him this in no uncertain terms but does that mean we should DESTROY HIM COMPLETELY?
*Does that mean we should ensure he never has any job again?
*Does that mean we should ensure his family cant be fed again?
*Does that mean we should not "let go" fo the name-calling and try to help him improve by keeping and eye on him and encouraging him?

What people dont realize is that at times, people behave better when they know that "they have been forgiven and much is expected of them".
It is a process l use on my own children (sorry to use that example, no disrespect to adult people here). You do something terrible, l "word you very well" but wont punish you.. when yo are expecting me to punish you! I just tell you to go and "correct yourself and convince me that l should not punish you"! Surprisingly, the child! wants to impress me at all cost and in the process, gets better by the day.

That is why l quoted what @write2obi said above.

EXPOSE, CRITICISE, .... BUT KNOW "WHEN TO STOP",...... BEFORE IT TURNS TO CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.

If the offender is ready to turn a new leaf (after mentioning his name to everyone or some matured people... who in-turn will keep a close eye on him, ensuring that he is really improving and not doing the same scam again), why then do we need to "kill him"?
Like Jesus said: He who is without blemish, should cast the first stone! (I still insist on mentioning the name IMMEDIATELY the Fraud occurs).

In real life, some of us are worse than the hypocritical stance we portray on this faceless column. You can see as much as that from what they write, if you are very perceptive.

So, let us lay-off Brabus matter, let us keep an eye on him and any other person but dont let us assassinate their character, in the legal sense of it.
We are all imperfect and we are all learners but we must be truthful, upright and strive to be good.




Lastpage!

PS: If anyone misinterpret my stance as supporting fraud, it is their own comprehension level and they are entitled to it. I will expose fraud but will not assassinate the person completely. Humans can reform, if given the chance

back2sender:
My MCjay, Dont worry i will spill the bean on him. I am waiting for his response on my other post and i will expose why and how

n3xt:
Sorry about the delayed response. It's a very busy week for me. Maybe you should repost the question. Trust me, I'll do justice to them.

I'm on 3 flat roofs this week.

The one in the last pic was done in collabo with Nigerite.

MrMcJay:
You have no idea of how ignorant you sound. It's because of the change you're collecting from that serial fraudster that you're typing trash here.

Look here and let me educate you, in construction, there is no room for second chances. The defective building could collapse and cause serious criminal and problems for the builder and the supplier of the items used on site. Mind you, this was how Lekki Gardens and Synagogue issues started when they began listening to people like you.

Guy, I know you're one of those supplying that quack with substandard materials for his useless jobs. You better keep a part of your proceeds to pay your lawyers when the time comes.

EgunMogaji:
Translation:

Write2Obi does not have the gonnads to answer a prayer said for him and he also has no proof of a successfully completed job as requested.

I understand, you're hungry for work and need to latch onto a potential source of income.

I pray that I don't hire a Write2Obi because you've shown the same lack of morality.

Here's a man whose house is sinking and you got nothing to say about that. But you'll carry my name on top of your head.

I'll have an outstanding day, of that I assure you. Sir.