₦airaland Forum

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]that was in the past. now there is no muamar ghadaffi. algeria and mauritania are not much inovlved and algeria has a sizeable Berber population who are not so islamic.

mauritania maybe fosters al qaeda.


as i explained before, the MNLA is supported and funded by ECOWAS (Economic Community of West African States) , whereas the Ansar Dine is supported by AL Qaeda.[/quote]I agree.

thiendella: Those malians really suck , what kind of people would let some arab invaders gain 2/3 of their country without opposing any resistance ? Negotiating with invaders smh

exactly my sentiments.

If Mali is not serious about their sovereignty why should anyone else in West Africa?

EFX001: A FAMOUS BIBLE QUOTE SAYS"THE POPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE" MY FRIEND THE TERRORIST GROUP IN MALI IS CALLED Ansar al-Din THEY ARE THE MAIN SUPPORTERS OF BOKO HARAM AND OTHER MEGREB TERROR ORGANIZATIONS. MISUNDERSTANDING KOO MISUNDERSTANDING NEEE !!!!!

Ansar Dine (Mali), Boko Haram (Nigeria) and Al Shabaab (Somalia) are cross collaborating with each other and all 3 groups are getting funding $$$$$ from various Islamic elements in the Gulf Arab world.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Ik now that is what ive been saying. ANSAR AL DEEN IS DIFFERENT FROM MNLA!

BUT BECAUSE OF THIS USELESS WAR AND FOREIGN INTERFERENCE, NOW THE MNLA STANDS A CHANCE TO LOSE GROUND. WITH MALI UNITED, THIS ANSAR AL DINE WILL BE ABLE TO SPREAD SHARIA'A! [/quote]Groups like Ansar Dine and MUJAO have already pushed out the MNLA. Why do you think ECOWAS, France are getting involved?

When the Tuareg rebellion began with MNLA there was no talk of sending in forces. The reason a military
option is being planned is because the Tuaregs, (who invited Islamists to help the) are now being chased out by the Islamsits. I don't feel sorry for the Tuaregs....they made a strategic blunder and must deal with the consequences of their actions.

I honestly don't care what happens in Mali, I'm just glad my country Ghana is not sending in troops to die in quagmire.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA][size=16pt]WHY IS FRANCE POKING HER DIRTY NOSE IN THIS>>?? ? ?? ? [/size]


[size=16pt]THIS IS A TOUAREG RESISTANCE! THE ISLAMIC-ARAB PART CAME LATER, AND THEY ARE ALREADY BEING PUSHED OUT BY THE NON-ISLAMIC TOUAREG FACTIONS!

THE TOUAREG HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FOR YEARS IN THESE AREAS BY MALIS LACK OF DEVELOPMENT AND OPRESSIVE MEASURES! THEIR PASTURES HAVE BEEN BURNT DOWN AND THERE IS GENOCIDE AGAINST THEM NOT TO MENTION DROUGHT AND STARVATION!


I HOPE THE TOUAREG REBELS DEFEAT THEM!

THIS IS THE FIGHT OF THE NOMADS!

VIVA LA AMAZIGHEN!!!!!!!!!![/size]


https://1389blog.com/pix/Touareg-fighters-advance-toward-Mopti.jpg[/quote]There's no genocide going on against the Tuaregs. Their way of life (pastoral nomadism) is the reason
why they starve during famines.

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]These are no islamist-arabs. They are Touareg leaders.[/quote]there are 4 main groups in Northern Mali

1) MNLA (Azawad Independence movement)
2) Ansar Dine
3) MUJAO
4) AQIM

Tuaregs are apart of all the above groups

none of us are getting reparations

at this point it would be an insult to ascribe a numerical value on African and African-American suffering during the time period of slavery and colonization

obadiah777: I WONDER WHAT NATURAL RESOURCES ARE IN MALI. THEY MUST HAVE OIL

maybe so, but it still doesn't change the fact that Islamic terrorists are


[img]http://www.estrepublicain.fr/fr/images/5856F8FF-1856-4C2B-B014-6ABAC37727A4/LER_15/le-porte-parole-d-ansar-dine-photo-afp.jpg[/img]

https://news.abamako.com/img_photos/L/ansar_dine4.jpg

https://www.la-musique-rai.com/news/big/14112012-ansar-dine-renonce-application-charia-tout-mali.jpg

[img]http://2.bp..com/-75R9eViuW4c/T8DjVeONzmI/AAAAAAAABdI/ddzDoOTtZAc/s1600/Ansar+Dine+flag+azawad.jpg[/img]

https://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2012/07/ansar-dine-2.jpg

[img]http://www.rfi.fr/sites/filesrfi/dynimagecache/0/14/1436/1072/344/257/sites/images.rfi.fr/files/aef_image/abdoul-hakim_[/img]

ECOWAS wanted their action to be in accordance with UN and international law. You need a western power or one of the 5 permanent members of the security council (britain,france,us,china,russia) to co-sign any invasion, deployment or military action for it to be legit.

Slizbeat: Am not a yoruba so i would not comment on the part of IFA study. Buh lemme ask, those advocating for the chasing of foriegn religions like christianity and Islam, are you a traditional worshipper? Leave the religions alone, we who pratice it are Okay with it and the God we serve and worship in the religion has being answering our prayers. You are not a christian or muslim by mere copying foriegners but by your belief. Implement IFA but let it not affect the other, simple.

Yea you serve "God" like the slave you are and I'm sorry to tell you that your "God" is not answering your prayers. Look at your country (Nigeria) it's a mess and has one of the worst reputations around the world.

Fact of the matter, is foreigners brought your belief system to you and you are a slave to them.

Arysexy: Hmmmm this people and juju, now i know why hausa muslim dont regard them as true muslims.

Who cares?

Do you even know what Juju is? or are you just repeating something you heard?

besides, Muslims from the Arab world don't consider any Africans as "true Muslims"

I definitely see it as a giant ponzi scheme. Especially when the money collected is not being re-invested in the communities of the congregation. If "The Church" was what they claim to be (holy and righteous) why not more transparency?

They should make their ledgers and accounting books open for all to see how much is being accumulated and on what is the money being allocated for.

most agnostics are like soft core atheists

atheists are like hard core agnostics

that's one way to look at it

it's a very thin line

no need to get annoyed

for you Christians, Muslims and Jews who need something to be mentioned in your holy book before accepting it as true.

DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (KJV)

"For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire....."


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Sun?s=t

sun
[suhn] Show IPA noun, verb, sunned, sun·ning.
noun


1.
( often initial capital letter ) the star that is the central body of the solar system, around which the planets revolve and from which they receive light and heat: its mean distance from the earth is about 93 million miles (150 million km), its diameter about 864,000 miles (1.4 million km), and its mass about 330,000 times that of the earth; its period of surface rotation is about 26 days at its equator but longer at higher latitudes.

2.
the sun considered with reference to its position in the sky, its visibility, the season of the year, the time at which or the place where it is seen, etc.

3.
a self-luminous heavenly body; star.

4.
sunshine; the heat and light from the sun: to be exposed to the sun.

5.
a figure or representation of the sun, as a heraldic bearing usually surrounded with rays and marked with the features of a human face.

all the ancient cultures had Sun Gods because before our modern era (before electricity and the invention of the light bulb) the sun was the source of light

The sun was/is considered analogous to "God"

I agree.

the bold is very important


http://jambo.africa.kyoto-u.ac.jp/kiroku/asm_normal/abstracts/pdf/31-4/31-4-1.pdf

The Awori are mainly Yoruba speakers, but due to trans-national and interethnic
interactions, the majority of the Awori Yoruba of coastal southwestern
Nigeria is bilingual, speaking the Yoruba and Ogu languages (previously erroneously
referred to as Egun). Such Awori Yoruba peoples are found at Apa, Igbogbele,
Iworo, among others. The Ogu are also bilingual, speaking both the Ogu
and Yoruba languages and they are found across coastal south western Nigeria,
Benin Republic, Togo and Ghana.





http://www.demographic-research.org/Volumes/Vol14/8/14-8.pdf


These issues are examined using qualitative data collected among the Ogu, a sub-Yoruba ethnic group in southwestern Nigeria.

The study was carried out among the Ogu. The Ogu constitutes the Egun speaking
people of south western Nigeria. They are found mainly in two populous states in the country: Lagos and Ogun states; they also constitute about 40 percent of the population of the Republic of Benin and are found in Togo as well. The present study was carried out in Lagos state. Although the Ogu share numerous cultural traits with the Yoruba in Nigeria, they maintain separate dialect and trace their origin to the Republic of Benin, whereas the Yoruba trace theirs to Ile-ife in Osun state, the cradle of Yoruba culture.




OGU derives from Ogun (a Yoruba deity)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogoun

In the Yoruba religion, Ogun (or Ogoun, Ogún, Ogou, Ogum, Oggun) is an orisha and loa who presides over iron, hunting, politics and war.





http://cefolassaocoed.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53&Itemid=61

The people of Lagos state had long been organized into kingdoms and chiefdoms. Few kingdoms existed among the Awori, Ijebu and Ogu before the nineteen-century but the number continuously increased because of inter-group settlement. The kingdoms and chiefdoms existed side by side, and most of the political units were independent of one another with high degree of internal autonomy. Most of the Ijebu, Ogu and Awori traditional rulers have titles that depict their areas of jurisdiction. Hence, one records such titles as Oniworo of Iworo, Onilogbo of Ilogbo, Onijanikin of Ijanikin, Oniba of Iba as well as cognomen such as Olofin and Eleko. Others adopt titles such
as Akarigbo, Awujale, Ayangburen and Aholu




The socio-economic interaction between the Ogu, the Ijebu and the Awori with the Yoruba of the hinterland, as well as inter group marriages, aided the rate of socio-political diffusion and reduced the differences among the various groups.

One of the major areas of similarities among the groups is religious beliefs and festival. The worship of water deities gained prominence among the various fishing groups. This could be explained in terms of the environment and historical experience. Most settlement of the fishing folks are on water while the land areas are surrounded by creeks, lagoons and resources especially those that could not combine fishing, farming, arts and craft production together. It is based on
the purely coastal economy that Malokun, Ayelala, Alaworo and other water deities are major deities among the coastal dwellers. There are other deities such as Ogun and Sango. It over the numerous Ogu and Yoruba deities that the Ijebu, Ogu and Awori developed elaborate rituals and festivals. The annual and ceremonial festivals keep the Lagos state in festive mood throughout the year. While the groups commonly worship Sango and Ogun, few initiates into Ayelala cult exist between the Awori and Ijebu





http://www.badagrygov.org/?page_id=620


HISTORY OF BADAGRY

The Ogu or Ogbugbe people of Badagry Local Goverment Area in the Lagos southwest area are part of the Yoruba/Popo sub-group who emigrated from the acient ketu kingdon of present day Benin Republic

According to the historical account, the Ogus originally migrated from Ile-Ife in the late 13th century into the then dahomey Empire which subjugated ketu Kingdom and from there broke into two diffrent waves .

While a band of the Ogu moved westward into Accra and Lome to from Ga and Ewe stocks respectively, the second group led by Akran Gbafoe, moved eastward along Porto-Novo and Yewa creeks (later Badagry creeks). They settled along the Kweme coastline and Olege lagoon to form the chain of Ogu communities with Badagry as the epicentre in the 15th century .Badagry which is the centre of the Ogu population in Nigeria derived its name “Agbadaigi” from the Ogu refrence ;Agbagreme which
subsequently, at the advent of the Europeans in the 16th century was converted to Badagry .

Since its founding ,Badagry has grown from a small principality of four Ogu sub-ethnic groups of Wheda ,Wheme ,Whra and the Combined Ga/Ewe and Ajah to become an acient major slave outpost ; beacon of Western civilisation and Christianity in Nigeria and headquaters of Badagry division. It also become one the five administrative division of Lagos state in time past. More importantly, the town was the place in Nigeria where Christianity was first preached in 1842 by Rev.Thomas Birch Freeman.Also, the first storey building in Nigeria,the C.M.S(Anglican)Mission house was built in 1845 at the Marina.

alj harem: Ewe is very similar to yoruba in terms of language culture and history.

I am Ogu (Ewe) (Awori) Yoruba. If you have stayed in Badagry, you would understand. They call us Awori-Egun.

Thank You!

I am of Ewe Descent (Ghanaian). Although I was born abroad and don't speak the language...I know the history very well. A few months ago when I stated that the Ewe and Yoruba were related I was accused by a few for trying to make up a mythological connection that wasn't there...Even by some Yorubas on here SMH

PeterKbaba: I HOPE YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS PEOPLE ONLY SACRIFICE CHICKENS OR GOATS AND THIS REGION IS ONE OF THE MOST PEACEFUL REGION IN THE WORLD. WHAT ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE CHRISTIANS (EUROPE) OR MUSLIMS (ARABS) AND THEY ARE ADDICTED TO WAR, KILLING OVER 10 MILLIONS PEOPLE IN WARS ( WHICH ONE SOUNDS MORE LIKE SACRIFICE ) ABEG WAKE UP.......... WAS AFRICA NOT AT PEACE BEFORE RELIGION. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME THE RELIGION OF JESUS CHRIST, WHEN HE WAS ON EARTH. SIMPLE ( SPIRITUALIST )

yup this region of West Africa (Burkina Faso, Ghana, Togo, Benin) has never had a war and is one of the most peaceful parts of the continent. I can't say the same for parts of Africa where Christians and Muslims are predominant.

why are you using relaxers on your daughter's hair?

are you ashamed of her hair texture?

not that I'm aware of but I heard there are many Ewes (a Ghanaian/Togolese ethnic group) in Badagray, a suburb of Lagos.

I've heard of some idiotic Blacks claiming to be of Jewish and Ethiopian descent but never Somali descent ....this Somali thread starter just threw his ethnic group in to boost his ego.

But to answer the question, its because many of them are either ignorant or have an inferiority complex.

great thread!

That Shango pic looks powerful.

we must venerate our indigenous African deities and idols.

Every religion does so. When you go into an Chinese restaurant, or a Hindu shop they have their altars, statues, etc. We must have ours...that is from where you get your power from.

the title makes it seem like this is a P-square concert and the Ghanaians are opening acts but that's not the case. make the correction t/s

yes I agree.

Russia has and continues to always be feared militarily.

I don't think they have ever been conquered or colonized.

They design and manufacture their own weapons (ak, mig, sukhoi)

They are also racially homogenous and uniform and are proud of their races accomplishments.

nas when it comes to lyrics (subject matter, content, storytelling)

jay-z is the better technical rapper (flow, cadence, breathe control,etc.)

morpheus24: ^^^^

Paranoid Schizophrenia

That wasn't the question that was asked?

cap28 did answer the question.

It's just that the first three paragraphs were more so critical of the motives of the Nigerian military. But if you start reading from: "But to answer the op's question - yes..." and onwards....you'll see that he answered the question

ojukwu looks like he's waiting for gowon to swallow first (which is smart) lol

National defense is and should always remain the #1 priority for any and every African country. Without the borders secure and citizens safe nothing else can be accomplished effectively.

A nation's military strength and capabilities is a good sign of their might and influence. It shows that a country is willing to invest in itself and promote their interests at home and abroad.