₦airaland Forum

LagosShia: that is the opinion of mahmoud abbass.it doesn't mean he must be right.also,the plan of partion would have caused the same problem seen in india and pakistan.come to think of it,how can you divide a land that people (of mixed religions and languages) already inhabit? the zionist jews would definitely agree to such plan because from the onset,they wanted a racist jewish state only for them in isolation where all else could be kicked out.the "holocaust" was a good alibi to push on their demands and cover the crimes of zionism against palestinians in declaring israel a state.


you are a big fool.and really you are.the hausas have a presence in nigeria that goes back even before the creation of nigeria itself.would that give right to the hausas to kick yorubas,igbos and other groups out in order that they form their "hausa state"? they would also bring in hausas from all over the world and from niger,chad and other west african countries to replace other groups in nigeria.that is what happened in palestine.no one is denying the jewish presence.likewise the palestinians who even share jewish genes have a presence there from a very long time.


do you know that the palestinian people do represent the hebrews? if you talk about genese,religion or who is more indigenous,the palestinians as a whole have a better case.the samaritans for instance that are mentioned in the new testament converted to Islam and adopted arabic.they recognize today themselves as palestinians.there are families who have samaritan origin among the palestinians.among the palestinians you have also those with canaanite,israelite,jewish,persian,egyptian,arabian,roman,european,turkish genes.these people have settled that land just like the israelites came too and met the canaanites (from whom also the palestinians descended).these people have intermarried over the centuries and became one united by arabic.the majority embraced islam while a large minority remained christian and jewish.now it is unfair for one group to come out and impose its identity and kick everyone out.


you are generalizing the wide and diverse origins of palestinians that merge as one to only include egyptians and arabians.please read who the palestinian people are and what genetic studies have revealed.the palestinians are closest to the jews in genes and distinct from both egyptians and arabians of the arabian peninsular.read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#Ancestral_origins



you are a fool.palestinians enjoy their rights to the fullest by their houses being bulldozed? israelis have citizens in other countries where they left to come to palestine.why dont they go back there?the palestinians want their land back and not other countries to give them assylum or assimilate them.

best post in this thread

ayanle456: somalia is part of the arab league. egypt shares nile eith ethiopia. egypt sponsered somalia into arab league. i say we uave enough allies

arabs don't care about you, nor are they strong enough to defend you (even if they did).

Arabs are divided themselves.

You should have heard what a Lebanese associate of mine said about you Somalis lol

PhysicsQED: When people mention great African states of the past Somalia and its sultanates/kingdoms are almost never mentioned. You and I both know that this is the truth.

And it's only from a Somali that one will hear that a country in a state of unending anarchy even worse than Nigeria's, with people roaming around as refugees and suffering from famine is somehow saving the image of Africa.

yup Somalia is irrelevant and Somalians are very delusional. It's only on the internet where you hear somalis brag and boast because they are protected by the anonymity of being online. They are the sh1t stain of Africa and everyone knows it.

MsDarkSkin: Thats why you have to force yourselves on other blacks for attention. Raaped by arabs and owned by ethiopians....what an epic fail.

basically this is what it boils down to.

https://i49.tinypic.com/2h51agl.jpg

look at these captured Somalian pirates

Indians, Malaysians, and Kenyan police officers manning over them

andrewza: You where not enslaved because you look weak and scrawny. Where the bantu looks like a man who can work.

partly true

Somalis/Somalians were not enslaved because they were nomadic peoples.

West Africans were primarily sedentary and Europeans were looking for labourers (slaves) to work their plantation economies in the new world.

ayanle456: Whats wrong with being part of the ottoman empire...their were no soldiers on somali territory...we got all the weapons we need to defeat ethiopians...when we needed soldeirs we got them from the turks...

Why are you shaking you head...the entire arab world was part of the ottoman empire...somalis werent occupied by the ottaman turks...we just joined so we could recieve protection...it was a win win for us...we got weapons, protection...and we kept our langauge and culture...

ayanle456: In the 19th century the Ottoman Empire extended its rule towards the northern coast of Somalia through the darawish fighters of Sayyid Abdulle Hassan. This was later claimed by Egypt and finally succeeded by the British.


http://yusyika.hubpages.com/hub/somalia

the two points in bold seem to contradict each other

did you join or did the ottomans (turks) rule you?

which one is it?

masterpiecer: simply go to the bottom of the thread(the one you posted on) and click on (un-follow).
do that to any topic that you do not want a notification from, just as i will do after this comment, that way, if anybody comments on this thread, i will not get a notification mail.

do I have to do that every time for every thread?

is there a way to disable it?

how do I stop these notifications from entering into my email inbox?

I get notifications every time someone posts in a thread that I have posted in prior. It's annoying


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[quote author=haka_nai]^^^^ i always pray that the government has not ignore strategy and mobilized a enough offensive military units and arsenal to invade chad and Niger.Positioned in the NE of this country.Not to invade chad or Niger but to serve as deterrent on so many fronts eg. Before rogue groups like the taureg people of Niger will act part 2 of Mali in this country o!Lastly it must be clear that if you hit.you won't last a day.Because this one boko-haram as they take hijack Kano for almost a day,repeat same for Yobe,Borno,Bauchi etc. It is possible they are testing the waters.The day they decide to launch an offensive on multiple fronts.Occupying several states,with there suicidal tendencies it may be a awhile to dislodge them.Talk of causalities.So i say keep a strong response armed force.Add rapid to that. Thats why all new peace keeping quest should be set aside until that is resolved.[/quote]I agree. The Tuareg have been successful in Northern Mali, but I don't think they are satisfied with just that desert part of the country. I believe they also consider parts of Niger as part of their "homeland". The Nigerian military should keep an eye out on the situation with them.... because the Sahel region is like Africa's wild wild west right now.

DaRapture: This is stupid. Nigeria needs to deploy troops to resolve the problem they have bubbling right in their own nation, and the nation they need to deploy them to is Niger and and Chad, which are the nations where many of these BH members are coming from and are being trained. But the Nigerian government is too Gutless to deploy into a bordering nation.

Compared to Nigeria, Chad and Niger are weak militarily. They are poor desert countries that on a state level don't pose a risk to Nigeria...so deployment of Nigerian troops to those countries are not necessary in the near future. Nigeria's main issue with those countries is BORDER CONTROL. I suspect that in Northern Nigeria, a region that borders countries like Chad and Niger...the borders are porous so you guys need to tighten that up.

[quote author=haka_nai]^^^ chairman the listed items are already in Nigeria.Also they are in the wrong hands.We need to stay home and clean our society of the users and the items illegally causing peoples life.What treaty may i ask? Na for our head treaty start or end?Abeg forget that thing!Even Ghana systematically avoided re-enforce her presence in Ivory-coast.So why we dey worry.Simple tell ECOWAS,una no dey watch aljazeera?We need to tackle our security challenges too.Only after that can we send support to you.[/quote]The reason for that was obvious. At the time the Ivory Coast was divided geographically and ethnically and a member of Ouattara's rebel movement from the Northern part of the country was accusing us of protecting Gbagbo's loyalists. Our President John Atta Mills wisely made the decision not to intervene and to instead wait until the political negotiations were exhausted. Atta Mills also told ECOWAS that Ghana's military was "overstreched" or something along those lines lol. Smart move (decision not to intervene) on his part IMO because we share a border with them and the last thing we want to be seen as is an invading army (imagine how Ghanaian troops on Ivorian soil will be interpreted by either side in the conflict). I know fence sitting is morally wrong but we need to look out for the safety and security of our own country first and foremost (as everyone should). Sometimes getting involved in a conflict with two warring sides makes it worse. Luckily, French troops along with some of Ouattara's men eventually captured Gbagbo and his wife thereby ending the war.

seun needs to bring back the private message.

anyways

@ Dede1

I'm Ghanaian, My only interest in Nigeria is because it's the largest, most populous country in West Africa and influences the rest of the ECOWAS states. The region's stability hinges on whether Nigeria can get it together or not. Unfortunately if Nigeria fails or falls then the rest of the region will likely go down with it. Nigeria needs to agree on the way forward..whether its unity, confederation/autonomy or separation.

Dede1: I must candidly advise you not to hinge your knowledge of Nigeria on the propagandist maps you cull from the Internet. The maps you have referenced in your last post are setup to accomplish a purpose. I am not surprise you fell for them.

You are free to conclude direction of the wave of animosity in Nigeria. Again, Ndigbo are not oppressed or killed by anybody in Nigeria. It appears you are well fed with the propaganda coming out of Nigeria. There are set of Nigerians who still cling to the moronic and barbaric behaviors of yesteryears as in the case of Boko Haram. You should also know these people do not have monopolistic strangle hold on barbarism.

I learned about the different tribes and history of your country on here. I am only using terminology that is employed on here. When I was young I saw all Nigerians as the same.


Your post is ignorant

So because I am knowledgable about Nigeria....I can't be Ghanaian? How stupid is that....

IGNORANCE IS WHY NIGERIA IS IN THE STATE IT IS IN TODAY

T9ksy: You are partly right but the main grouse the ibos have with the yorubas was that WE DID NOT SUPPORT THEM during their biafra shenannigan. But the bottomline is that had we done so, the ibos would have taken over yorubaland and we will still be trying to get rid of them, now.The yorubas were not ready for war while ojukwu at least, admitted to having been preparing for the war for the best part of a year. Had we supported Ojukwu, our population would have been slaughtered and depleted by blood-thirsty northern troops based in the western region then, only for Ojukwu's rag-tag "liberation" (sic) force under the command of a yoruba man to occupy themselves with a mop-up exercise. There and then the whole of southern nigeria would be under the command of ojukwu and his ibo people. Hence the ibos hates the yorubas much more than the hausa/fulanis who instigated a pogrom on them killing hundreds of thousands in the process. They hate the yorubas because they felt rightly or wrongly, that it was the yorubas who stopped them from ruling nigeria. It was a brilliant plan but very risky,unfortunately ojukwu lost the gamble which led to the death of a million nigerians.

Yea it seems like some Igbos wanted the Yorubas to share equally in the loss with them. Not because of some partnership or because they were allies but because maybe they have a superiority complex and feel like if they suffer Yorubas should suffer as well. Now they are forced to take the historical loss all alone. That is just my interpretation of it. I mean what else could it be?

Dede1: You are free as air to flaunt your ignorance in the public but remember you do not have monopoly on knowledge. I would want you to give brief historical account of Shell D’Arcy crude oil exploration in southern protectorate starting in 1948.

If you are not a classified dunce, you would have realized that Cross River does not have a drop of crude oil. What gave Cross River State crude oil production tag was Bakassi Peninsula and I guess you must have known the faith of Bakassi by now.

It is unfortunate Nigeria is still filled to the brink with functional illiterates such as you who have never made an attempt to disabuse their mind from the idiotic propaganda fed to it by Gowon and northern regional political elites.

I don't do the name calling bro

But I have looked at quite a few maps detailing oil producing areas in Nigeria and majority of Nigeria's oil is in the deep south. This is not to say that South Eastern Nigeria has no oil...I'm just saying that most of your country's oil is in the deep South (South-South) areas on the coast and near Cameroon and it couldn't have been that different from the late 60s.

But Dede1, I'm still trying to figure out what the Yorubas historically did to the Ibos that creates all of this animosity from your end? It just seems like Ibos show more respect to those that are oppressing and killing them.

mimifonwon: Would you stay in a country that stole and maltreated your people if you could do something about it. Igbo land was the last to be conquered by the british because they resisted the unity called nigeria. So for Ojukwu to ask nigeria to let his people go, I dont think it was wrong. The reason Nigeria wanted the igbos to stay in Nigeria is because the area called biafra contained the oil, which Nigeria desperately needed to keep.

most of the oil is and was not in biafra (igbo lands).


That lady who wrote the book Half of a Yellow Sun also lied on a BBC panel presentation in London when discussing her book to a British audience. She stated with slight hesitation (when asked) that the oil was in igbo land. (which is not true)


most of Nigeria's oil was and still is in the "south-south" region of the country which is inhabitated by cross-rivers peoples. It's my understanding that the Igbos are indigenous to only the south-east portion of the country.

Kanto: @Dayokanu:

Are you making any sense? Granted that Azikiwe like many broad minded civilised leaders ie Kwame nkrumah, jomo kenyatta etc of his generation was a pan-africanist who beleived in one nigeria but the question is if Awolowo wanted self rule why didnt he seize the opportunity when the time came instead he went to the extent of fighting a war for one nigeria?

I think the contradiction actually makes Awolowo a petty minded opportunist.

As an outsider looking in, it seems to me that a lot of the hatred some Igbos might have for Yorubas stems from the fact that although at one point in time the Yorubas did express disatisfication with the Nigerian union...They did not however make the hasty decisions that the Igbos made (military coup, declaring unilateral succession,etc.) and therefore did not suffer the losses the Igbos did.

amosy007: Igbo people really want south south badly bloody parasites

...cant u people just demand biafra without bringing south south into d context...
For u peoples info... South south doesnt belong to igbo neither does it belong to yorubas... If u want biafra agitate for it with ur 5 state and stop hoping that south south will join u... Bloody greedy parasites.....

Am out all other quote can kiss my ass

Not saying I agree (I'm not Nigerian after all) but I think the purpose of Biafra annexing the south-south region of Nigeria was to prevent the country from being landlocked.

SOUTH AFRICA is clearly the strongest military on the African continent.


@andrewza, were talking modern (right now) NOT historical so it's irrelevant to bring up a conflict Ethiopia fought over 50+ years ago. Not to mention Ethiopia was fighting against one of the weakest European colonial powers (Italy) at the time. The war Ethiopia fought against Eritrea should be used as a gauge of what Ethiopia's made of.

98% of our countries don't even have our own weapons manufacturing industries (South Africa actually does). That fact alone puts South Africa head and shoulders above the rest of us. (I am Ghanaian BTW)


TOP 5 is:
1. South Africa
2. Egypt
3. Nigeria
4. Algeria
5. Ethiopia



here are two important criteria to be taken into account IMO:


1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

good news

this is what politicians, governors and mayors should be competing to do...they should be competing to see who can develop their regions faster

i'd say Chelsea

lol

funny thread

lock him up and throw away the key

Where was Aliko born?

anyways

When it's peaceful and stable up there then I'm pretty sure he'll invest in the North.

It's not smart to invest $$$$$ in a region of the country where extremists roam around and bombs go off every now and then

they have a vision to be #1 and an agenda to help them get there

I have to respect them

gbogboti: When the rich are getting richer and the poor getting poorer nko? Travel round Nigeria and see poverty. Our able boys are wasting away as thugs and agberos. Our girls cos of poverty have choosing toe the path of prostitution. If u see what are the senators do in abuja, u will truly realise that there is simply no democracy in Nigeria. Look round and see peoples' faces are u happy with what u see. We need a complete overhauling of the nigeria system. Kill all the politicians including my father. Why can't we all enjoy this life equally before we leave this world. After all, we will all die one day. Why looting and looting and looting for only ur children who even their 10th generation can't finish? Abegi, let d military boys take over jare. Ihejirika is a very cold General

What are they doing in Abuja?

I know that place is rich and lavish

delete

The Fulani-Hausa amalgamation was a power move that has paid off for them.

ECOWAS can't

AU probably can (if united)

neither

people should practice the religion that sprang out from their own culture

Nigerians look stupid when they practice Abrahamic religions that originate in far away lands.

top 3 (in no particular order) based on # of troops, missions, conflicts involved would be:

South Africa
Egypt
Nigeria

Nebeuwa: The Tuareg could become emboldened by their success in Mali and start a rebellion in neighboring Niger where the Tuareg population is larger than the Tuareg population in Mali.

Yeah, Nigeria should watch out. Fulani are a nomadic group similar to the Tuareg where they have many of their members in various West African countries.

[quote author=ekt_bear]So I apologize in advance for bringing up the racial dimension (I know that it is poor form)...but nobody feels slightly twinged that black folk are in the process of losing half of this country to the Tuareg (certainly an indigenous African people, but appearance-wise closer to white)?[/quote]ya I recognize that.

A lot of African people like to preach diversity and never want to acknowledge the racial differences of Africans (all Africans are not Black: ie. berber, coptic, arab, tuareg, fulani)

there is definitely a racial aspect of this conflict and it's evident when your read things such as:

"Commentators on television are already talking about the possible partition of Mali, which has weathered numerous rebellions by the lighter-skinned Tuaregs who have long felt marginalized by the darker-skinned Bambaras, who dominate the south where the seat of government is located."

source: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/islamist-group-plants-flag-timbuktu-rebel-takeover-crisis-095408843.html


I think Malians should demand that once Tuaregs set up their state in the North that Tuaregs in the south leave. Tuaregs can't have their cake and eat it to.

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