₦airaland Forum

CuteTj:
Let me educate you nairalanders more on Lagos State politics. In 1998 AD & APP was formed in lagos by politicians like Chief Bola Ige, Mrs. kofoworola Bucknor, Chief Olu Adebanjo e.t.c. At the launching of APP in Abuja, there was a disagreement about sharing of posts therefore Chief Bola Ige then decided to create a ''YORUBA PARTY'' although he didn't create it only for the ''YORUBAS'' people from other tribes were encouraged and allowed to join. That was how AD was formed. Some politicians who weren't lagosians but were members of old political parties like the defunct SDP & NRC and those that were already involved in politics in Lagos State therefore joined any of the 3 existing political parties as at that time. When Tinubu returned to Nigeria after Abacha's death, it was in Otunba Alebiosu aka Bush, currently a member of the Governor's Advisory Council in Lagos State and the father of Hon. Dayo Alebiosu representing Kosofe constituency at the Federal House of Representatives living room Tinubu was advised to run in the governorship election and the rest you all know is history now. The thing there is that majority of those controling Lagos politics are not native lagosians. What i know is that so far you are yoruba and with the right backing you can seek any elective position in Lagos. I can further tell you how Sarah Sosan was made the Deputy Governor and why she was not allowed to return, how Princess Orelope Adefulire was made the Deputy Govenor and some other first class information about Lagos politics and am not even a lagosian!

Onlytruth:
How can a country with the largest gas deposit in Africa even be talking about this? And by the Russians?
You see why some of us have called for the dismantling of the Nigerian contraption.
It does not make good decisions.

PointB:
I see. the same folks that voted pdp in lagos. we are watching,

Mrs.Chima:
You this HIV INFECTED nigger, STOP smelling my Kitty. GO SUCK SOME Joysticks man-lover BIATCH.

You GETS this man-lover BIATCH?

Mrs.Chima:
You still bitter about Shyone rejected your arse huh NIGGA? Keep fishing. Not everybody into FRESH OFF THE BOAT AFRICANS. Maybe when [size=18pt]you gets[/size] your papers LEGALLy she would reconsider.

Kunbee:
Immortal God modupe fun gbogbo ore

Ese elshaddai pe e ranti mi ni gbogbo igba

Mrs.Chima:
They say if the duck quacking, walking, and smells like a duck it must be a duck.

James-dman:
~~LOL @your proverb. Well Missy, kip the scolding aside n do me a favor. . . . Tell me hw Mr Chima's family received u when u 1st met them. Tnk u in advance!

tpia@:
Only someone with questionable IQ wouldnt know what my response to you meant.

tpia@:
I think it might be better to let the child know sooner rather than later.

Such things can cause psychological problems if the child discovers later in life and especially if there's a blood connection with the adopted family in some way.

Though technically speaking, adoption is supposed to not involve blood relations of any kind as in both parties involved are total strangers to each other.


This is why i always say its not always advisable to go digging too much into your past. You dont always know if you'll like what you find. What if  your enemies who have been searching for you unsuccessfully, now find you through your own efforts?

[size=18pt]Sometimes people are spared the effects of ancestral generational curses by being disconnected from the source of the curse, and when you intentionally reconnect, it sets the curse in motion once again[/size].

Of course this isnt a general rule but the saying be careful what you wish for, is a true one.

tpia@:
I think it might be better to let the child know sooner rather than later.

Such things can cause psychological problems if the child discovers later in life and especially if there's a blood connection with the adopted family in some way.

Though technically speaking, adoption is supposed to not involve blood relations of any kind as in both parties involved are total strangers to each other.


This is why i always say its not always advisable to go digging too much into your past. You dont always know if you'll like what you find. [size=18pt]What if  your enemies who have been searching for you unsuccessfully, now find you through your own efforts? [/size]

Sometimes people are spared the effects of ancestral generational curses by being disconnected from the source of the curse, and when you intentionally reconnect, it sets the curse in motion once again.

Of course this isnt a general rule but the saying be careful what you wish for, is a true one.

The West African Esu-Elegbara is a figure of double duality, of unreconciled opposites, living in harmony. . . . the epitome of paradox with the “capacity to reproduce himself ad infinitum. But these two examples raise a point over which there is considerably less agreement. … Esu-Elegbara—and his variations throughout the African diaspora—is a divine figure: so, do tricksters belong to the world of men or gods, or neither, or both? In some respects they seem decidedly earth-bound—a strong scatalogical vein runs through many trickster tales, for instance—but at the same time they seem to have god-like transformative powers.

‘Each version of Esu is the sole messenger of the gods (in Yoruba, irnase), he who interprets the will of the gods to man; he who carries the desires of man to the gods. Esu is the guardian of the crossroads, master of style and of stylus, the phallic god of generation and fecundity, master of that elusive, mystical barrier that separates the divine world from the profane. Frequently characterized as an inveterate copulator possessed by his enormous joystick, linguistically Esu is the ultimate copula, connecting truth with understanding, the sacred with the profane, text with interpretation, the word (as a form of the verb to be) that links a subject with its predicate. He connects the grammar of divination with its rhetorical structures. In Yoruba mythology, Esu is said to limp as he walks precisely because of his mediating function: his legs are of different lengths because he keeps one anchored in the realm of the gods while the other rests in this, our human world.

Scholars have studied these figures of Esu, and each has found one or two characteristics of this mutable figure upon which to dwell, true to the nature of the trickster. A partial list of these qualities might include individuality, satire, parody, irony, magic, indeterminacy, open-endedness, ambiguity, sexuality, chance, uncertainty, disruption and reconciliation, betrayal and loyalty, closure and disclosure, encasement and rupture. But it is a mistake to focus on one of these qualities as predominant. Esu possesses all of these characteristics, plus a plethora of others which, taken together, only begin to present an idea of the complexity of this classic figure of mediation and of the unity of opposed forces.

The Fon [of Benin, Dahomey] call Legba “the divine linguist,” he who speaks all languages, he who interprets the alphabet of Mawu [sky-god] to man and to the other gods. Yoruba sculptures of Esu almost always include a calabash that he holds in his hands. In this calabash he keeps ase [usually translated as divinely-generated power or energy], the very ase with which Olodumare, the supreme deity of the Yoruba, created the universe. We can translate ase in many ways, but the ase used to create the universe I translate as “logos,” the word as understanding, the word as the audible, and later the visible, sign of reason. Ase is more weighty, forceful, and action-packed than the ordinary word. It is the word with irrevocability, reinforced with double assuredness and undaunted authenticity. This probably explains why Esu’s mouth, from which the audible word proceeds, sometimes appears double: Esu’s discourse, metaphorically, is double-voiced.

Esu’s most direct Western kinsman is Hermes. Just as Hermes’ role as a messenger and interpreter for the gods lent his name readily to hermeneutics, our word for the study of methodological principles of interpretation of a text, so too is it appropriate for the literary critic to name the methodological principles of the interpretation of black texts Esu-’tufunaalo, literally “one who unravels the knots of Esu” [this word is a Yoruba neologism coined by the Nigerian writer Wole Soyinka]. Esu is the indigenous black metaphor for the literary critic, and Esu-’tufunaalo is the study of methodological principles of interpretation itself, or what the literary critic does. Esu-’tufunaalo is the secular analogue of Ifa divination, the richly lyrical and densely metaphorical system of sacred interpretation that the Yoruba in Nigeria have consulted for centuries, and which they continue to consult. Whereas the god Ifa is the text of divine will, Esu is the text’s interpreter (Onitumo), “the one who translates, who explains, or ‘who loosens knowledge.


http://chrisabraham.com/2006/12/06/the-trickster-as-esu-elegbara/?replytocom=2208

I
just walked out because the man does not know the meaning of Esu or devil.
[size=15pt]Devil is the minister of justice, an incorruptible judge [/size]and if in your
society, the name Esu means a honest person, who will not punish a person
who is not an offender, is it a sin to name your child or yourself after
such judge?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TalkNigeria/message/9288

knoxranger:
He his Olorunimbe Mamora, His last name is Mamora, he is from Ogun state and not Lagos state, You all should do your research very well, He hails from Ijebu -ife in Ogun state, The Olorunimbe of Lagos Island is quite different from the Mamora of Ijebu-Ife, He can never be governor of Lagos state, not for his incompetence but rather his state, Please dont get me wrong; unlike speculations about the state of origin of Bola Ahmed Tinubu, Olorunimbe Mamora has publicly declared his state of origin at various fora, so check well.

AjanleKoko:
Abi o.
There are a few of us down here who have no reason to ask for, or receive a bribe, and we haven't died.

dayokanu:
Someone from a public school actually did us proud.

I though some weeks back someone was arguing that its products of Corona, Grange etc that are the smartest.

"where the [size=18pt]intelletes[/size] meet"

http://www.interso.net/

ekt_bear:
IMO (international mathematics olympiad)? What is the process like in Nigeria? How do they select the team?

Also, have you ever heard of this Nigeria –Turkish International College? I guess it must be pretty damn good if half the team came from there.

flo_path:
ok. I indicated in that post that I am very biased. Besides, I was talking about a specific period. 2004-2006 for IMO, physics and IJSO competitions. I know a guy from there got bronze medal in IJso recently. Even my own crappy sec school has 4 Ijso bronze medals and several national medals so kini big deal. What I was trying to indicate is that, the way you said it, you make it seem like the school is far and above the best in naija when it is not.

Besides, the link you posted indicated that they proudly educate the kids of past presidents and Nigerian state officials. Basically, they educate the kids of those stealing naija's money. That is my problem with them. It is a very good school there is no question about that. I am just offering my own biased opinion. Finally, why do you care so much? chill my guy. The point of this thread is to celebrate someone's success, not antagonize others.

davidylan:
lol and this is the fool accusing others of being "factless" and "gutless"? Rather that than go around copying and pasting from websites to look good. 

Just more of his tomfoolery:

His "questions":

You need to ask yourself the following questions - note how this is phrased AS IF he is writing the questions himself!

(1) Is it possible to conduct research ethically during an epidemic? Knowing fully well the Cipro, even in the US, is sparingly used in kids under 21. - Phrased slightly differently from the website, but the Ciprofloxazine example is discussed in brief on the site.
(2) Did Pfizer exploit the poor desperate people with severely ill children? > From website - "Did Pfizer exploit the poor desperate people with severely ill children?"
(3) Does illiteracy justify the fact that Pfizer researchers did not obtain proxy consent for the children they enrolled into their trial? > From the website - "Does illiteracy justify the fact that Pfizer researchers did not obtain proxy consent for the children they enrolled into their trial?
(4) Did they help to fight the meningococcal meningitis epidemic at all or they had their own agenda since pre and post Pfizer mortality rate did not change? > From the website - "Did they help to fight the meningococcal meningitis epidemic at all or they had their own agenda?
(5) Why did Pfizer agree to settle out of court?
(6) Would Pfizer have done the same thing in the US or UK?

What a shame.

in December 2010 WikiLeaks released US diplomatic cables, which indicate that Pfizer had "used dirty tricks to avoid clinical trial payout". The company had hired investigators to find evidence of corruption against the Nigerian attorney general to persuade him to drop legal action.[65] Washington Post reporter Joe Stephens, who helped break the story in 2000, called these actions "dangerously close to blackmail."[58] In response the company has released a press statement describing the allegations as "preposterous" and stating that they acted in good faith


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer#Nigeria

davidylan:
I wonder why ystranger didnt "copy and paste" this from the site he stole his other questions from:

2. Pfizer went to Kano to assist the Nigerian government during a seriousepidemic, and
they offered free treatment. Whereas some of the 200 children they treated with Trovan
may have experienced some serious side effects thatin some cases led to death, some
participants in the trial responded well to Trovan and thus benefited. After all, some
patients in the government and MSF camp responded poorly to chloramphenicol treatment
and died. Thus the deaths would probably have occurred anyway even if Pfizer had not
come on board.

Why is no one mentioning the fact that while 9 deaths were ASSOCIATED (note we cannot use the term "killed" with the use of trovan, 12,000 died from the epidemic! Why did those families fail to sue the Kano state government for failing to provide adequate medical care?

Some deaths were also recorded for many on the MSF and government-provided chloramphenicol (which is completely ineffective at the late stage of the disease and may have contributed to some of the trovan deaths), did anyone sue the government over the chloramphenicol-related deaths or was this just an attempt to extort pfizer?

Again from the same source - 5. The bacterial meningitis epidemic was fuelled by the squalid conditions in which the
communities of Kano were living, and that is what needed to be addressed urgently. [size=13pt]Pfizer
did not cause or exacerbate the epidemic; it only came into Nigeria to help and to test a
drug that could potentially improve the treatment of bacterial meningitis in children[/size].

davidylan:
The ignorance from these northern fools is stunning. The Pfizer vaccine case was a test vaccine for bacterial meningitis NOT for polio. So what was the northern governors excuse for refusing polio vaccines that had not shown any adverse effects in the south? Blame pfizer too?

Besides pfizer was quite clear that the meningitis vaccines were a TRIAL, you know

. . . not yet approved by a government regulatory agency. Everyone who has 2 brain cells knows that trials can be hit or miss and deaths are sometimes reported.

davidylan:
In no way did my post suggest this disingenous stupidity.

davidylan:
malnutrition? Poor healthcare? Ignorance? Illiteracy? Kids in the north die everyday so what's new?

Why didnt southern kids die too? did they give you a special vaccine that miraculously didnt cross the niger river? You people should learn to use your brains . . . soon you'll be saying the jews must have poisoned the vaccines.

alj harem presented his question as if the only reason any child died in the north was because of Pfizer vaccines

- when infact infant mortality in northern nigeria is a disgraceful 125 per 1000!

1. I suspect you are at least above 20.

2. So i'm assuming those classmates of yours who had polio must have contracted the disease a good 20 - 25 yrs ago.

3. As at 2010, Nigeria was 98% polio-free (the only 20 cases reported all came from the north). the South is essentially polio-free.

Err so what exactly was your point?  

adejoro75:
Are you preaching to Negro_Ntns aka Y/F Stranger aka Iragbijile? He is a lost cause.

alj_harem:
Then what do we do?

this people give us experimental vaccines and drugs to use. WHY

what are northern leaders doing about it. Even Gowon is collecting bribe from them to give use fake drugs so we can die

davidylan:
Odd. What did they give the south? We already eradicated polio. Too bad we have to burdened by the slow, illiterate goons who make up the north.

davidylan:
Odd. What did they give the south? [b]We already eradicated polio. [/b]Too bad we have to burdened by the slow, illiterate goons who make up the north.

davidylan:
malnutrition? Poor healthcare? Ignorance? Illiteracy? Kids in the north die everyday so what's new?

Why didnt southern kids die too? did they give you a special vaccine that miraculously didnt cross the niger river? You people should learn to use your brains . . . soon you'll be saying the jews must have poisoned the vaccines.