dupyshoo:
Yes o. Shikini means very small.

Did you say housing benefit with a household.income of 75k. No council will give you that option. In some council, people that their cases are very urgent (I.e. homeless), they are being moved from one hotel to another or shared flats as waiting list is crazily long.

Why would he suggest himself and his family to that?

Sincerely, public fund is for when you are down and very down.

I agree

I just remembered during COVID when councils were scrambling to house homeless people temporarily in hotels and the like so as to reduce the spread. I imagine most are back on the streets now.

I think the key "benefit" of settled status is freedom from immigration control and being able to work anywhere, be self employed etc without any restrictions, and able to provide fully for one's self and family cos most state benefits are shikini in comparison

dupyshoo:
Shikini child benefit, 30hrs free childcare, access to free government bootcamps (if you are interested). I think dat's all.

Lol what does shikini mean? Small?

Don't forget housing benefit and being able to join the massive queue for a council house (although as Lexus said, settled migrants might quickly come to realise that it's not worth meeting the low income and homeless/vulnerable criteria that makes them eligible to claim)

Canada is planning to set limits on the number of temporary residents it lets in for the first time in its history.

Immigration minister Marc Miller said on Thursday that the number will be reduced over the next three years, with the first cap to be set in September.

It will apply to international students, as well as foreign workers and asylum claimants.

The minister has previously spoken about revising immigration targets due to an affordability and housing crisis.

In his announcement, Mr Miller said that Canada plans to reduce the number of temporary residents to 5% of the population, down from the current 6.2%.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68621013.amp

Schoolhike:


Can you shed more light on this or reference to it.

Thanks for your detailed responses

You're welcome. Hope your beautiful little girl (my namesake ) is doing well

The caseworker guidance was updated on 11 March. Relevant excerpt below clarifying who is eligible to apply as a dependant on a care visa:

Care workers and senior care workers
Unless one of the exemptions below apply, the applicant must not be applying as the
partner or child of a Skilled Worker who is sponsored for a job in the occupation code
‘6145 Care workers and home carers’ or ‘6146 Senior care workers’.
If the lead applicant has continuously had permission as a Skilled Worker, accepting
that any gap subject to paragraph 39E can be disregarded, under the rules in force
before 11 March 2024, sponsored in either or both these occupation codes (6145 or
6146) a dependant may apply. To be eligible for this exemption, the lead applicant’s
original application date must have been before 11 March 2024 (even if that
application was granted after 11 March, and whether or not their dependants applied
at the same time).
If the dependant is a child who was born in the UK, the child can apply.


Another extract from the statement of rules published on 19 Feb:

These changes:

• Narrow the eligibility for workers to be sponsored in these occupation codes in
England from all jobs to only jobs where the sponsor is registered with the
Care Quality Commission (CQC) and is currently carrying on a regulated
activity (this does not affect the eligibility of jobs in Scotland, Wales and
Northern Ireland); and
• Remove the provision for dependants to accompany or join workers sponsored
in these occupation codes (other than providing for children born in the UK to
regularise their stay).

babajeje123:

Wow! This sounds good. Pardon my ignorance, are there no salary thresholds on these roles too?

Not ignorance, we're all getting up to speed with the new policies.

Yes there will be salary thresholds in the NHS from April 4 as follows:

- Health and care visa jobs not on a pay scale or on the Immigration Salary list: £29,000 (currently £26,200)

- Health and care visa jobs on a pay scale or on the Immigration Salary list : £23,200 (currently £20,960)

- Skilled worker visa jobs : £38,700 (currently £26,200)

Note- the Immigration Salary list replaces the Shortage Occupation list from April 4

babajeje123:
How true is this @Zahra?

Not true; people were making their own interpretations of the choice of words used but Gov.uk has clarified the rules which is consistent with the case worker guidance:

If you’re a care worker or senior care worker
Your partner and children cannot apply to join you or stay in the UK as your dependants unless you were employed as a care worker or senior care worker in the UK and on a Health and Care Worker visa before 11 March 2024 and one of the following is true:

you’re currently still on a Health and Care Worker visa
you’re extending your Health and Care Worker visa with your current employer
you’re changing to a new job within the same occupation code while on a Health and Care Worker visa



Allowances have been made for dependant childcare born in the UK to be added to the parent's visa. Any other dependants will only be considered under exceptional circumstances.

Mindlog:


So it means anyone with the occupation code 2212: Psychologists (Clinical psychologist. Educational psychologist, Forensic psychologist, Occupational psychologist, Psychologist. Psychometrist) can come over with their dependants when issued COS?

Correct. NHS roles,and all roles outside codes 6145 and 6146, are still allowed to bring in dependants as long as the normal conditions are met.

Dharmie02:
Please, I have a kweshion.
If someone working as healthcare assistant in the NHS gets COS as nursing assistant, can the person add dependents?
Thank u

Yes, as it's only occupation codes 6145 and 6146 that are in the dependant ban. NHS nursing assistant roles have a different code.

Yemite14557:
Hello everyone, I'm seeking guidance on how to address a concerning incident.

Thursday , my 3-year-old child left the school premises unaccompanied during closing time.

Another parent noticed him walking alone outside the school, sensed something was wrong, and safely returned him to the school.

Despite this, the school failed to inform me of the incident promptly, waiting until today for another parent to relay the situation.


This lack of communication is distressing and demonstrates negligence.

I believe it's crucial for teachers to uphold their duty of care. I'm left contemplating the potential dangers that could have arisen from this oversight. What is the appropriate course of action to address this matter effectively?

This is a very serious incident and coupled with the nursery's unsatisfactory response - I would recommend that you report them for investigation by your local council and/or Ofsted

Something similar happened in Scotland fairly recently and the nursery was reported to the care inspectorate:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-67677891

profemebee:
pls let him/her explain oooo..

Maybe it is another Home Office.. get job and be given Leave to remain just like that??

On a real, let's be careful sha.. some people don't just intentionally overstay/become illegal

It is all the "i heard someone did this or did that" stories they hear and believe it will work for them.. and then.. eventually it hits them in the face....

Also, people don't tell the full story.. they tell the parts that suits the narrative

Reminds me of the "stay lowkey and away from authorities for like 7-10years" discussion some days ago.. it is easy for people to type and say people should do it from the comfort of their homes..

The overstayers are the ones feeling the heat.. they can't legally work/rent/buy or do anything... because every data is tracked and evaluated..

Even those with visas and work are struggling to survive in this cost of living crisis..

Imagine what overstayers who earn way below the minimum wage will face (Thats for those who are lucky to find an employer to risk giving them a job)

Make we dey careful

💯 💯 💯

And even when people are minded to tell the full story, it doesn't mean that their way will work for someone else. Once it's a discretionary application (i.e. outside of the immigration rules) then there are no assurances. It depends on the case worker, it depends on the exceptional circumstances of the case and so on.

dupyshoo:
I am not sure this is correct. One can be given leave outside the rule but it is not as trivial as you stated. There is a guidance for that.

I strongly doubt if someone will just be given leave to remain because the person gave birth during her study. If the child is British, then that explains it, if not then there will be other compelling issues. It is also not correct that you just need to get a job and then you will be given leave to remain. What's the need for COS then?

Well said.... thankfully it's not me calling it out.

So much misinformation these days. People think "just get a lawyer" as if the lawyer is a magician. They also have to follow the rules set by the home office.

So many lawyers will be cashing out in the aftermath of these strict rules - advising their clients to put in applications (that they know are frivolous and bound to fail), selling false hope and getting nicely paid for it.

Gloriouscrown:


Hello Elengine, could you please explain further? Having a child in the UK can get you a leave to remain? Wow... I know plenty people who are interested in this info oo.

Thank you.

I'm also interested in hearing how (outside of the British child/7 year residence exception).

There's so much misinformation flying around these days.

OgbeniOptional:
I will be extremely happy if she can get the leave to remain for 30 months, enough to navigate one’s life.

Yes, that would be good. I think she might be granted at least the remainder of her current visa, it depends on the caseworker tbh.

LionInZion:


Just out of curiosity, what will happen to the woman's and her children's stay in the UK no that the main applicant is dead? How does Home Office handles matters like this? Zahra29, any idea?

If the lady is on a spouse visa, ie.her husband was British, settled etc , then there is a specific application that allows her to apply for ILR as a bereaved partner.

Unfortunately, for dependants where the sponsor was on a points based visa, the home office will consider cancelling leave, although they can also exercise discretion if there are compelling compassionate factors in the case.

There are guidelines, for example the home office must allow a minimum period of one
month after the date on which the individual died before they contact any dependants
about the case. If they decide to cancel leave they can also exercise discretion to allow longer than the usual 60 days to depart/vary leave.

In this time the woman could explore obtaining sponsorship (although this would understandably be quite challenging for the poor woman to do at this very sad and difficult time) or making a Discretionary Leave to Remain application which is considered for exceptional or compassionate circumstances that are not accommodated in other immigration rules. If granted, it is usually for a period of 30 months after which further leave may or may not be granted depending on the facts of the case.

Lexusgs430:



Universities have decided to stage a fightback and accuse the government........😁

I would point my accusing fingers at our political class and politicians, for failing to judiciously spend Nigerian's wealth appropriately.......

Imagine if Nigeria was like Dubai/Qatar/Saudi...... Let's just imagine that thought and relish in it .......😜

Las Las, we go all dey alright......🤔

Pfft....many universities got too greedy and are as much to blame. Some were so lenient in their entry criteria and checks and only started crying out when students started switching to tier 2 as soon as they landed and leaving the universities out of pocket.

hustla:




I am not rejoicing at their downfall...the route was due for review along with the care worker one as it was massively abused

My own problem is how they talk down on students as if we came to scrounge without paying fees. They should tell the true story and mention how much students have also contributed to their economy

Its really offensive and downright foolish to me

I agree

Unfortunately negative news caused by the bad apples trends and distorts public sentiment

hustla:


You should consider a career in politics (not an insult o)

I have been waiting for your comment

Lol, I already have a job as a UKVI agent/defender as an esteemed poster labelled me the other day

I see why foreign students may want to rejoice at the downturn in universities' finances and catastrophise that the whole economy is at risk of collapse because they banned dependants....however the facts are that many companies in other industries are having a harder time then universities - downsizing, freezing/reducing hiring, offshoring etc- and these are the same companies that foreign students would be seeking employment from when they graduate...

Lexusgs430:
The chickens have returned home...... It's now time to roost/roast ........ 😂

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/universities-foreign-students-financial-crisis-b2513637.html


Nigerian currency collapse was also mentioned........ 😂

Other industries have been going through rounds of voluntary and compulsory redundancies over the last year, slashing way more jobs than these universities are considering. Examples below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.consultancy.uk/news/amp/35730/deloitte-to-slash-800-jobs-with-consulting-hit-hardest

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/07/pwc-defends-plans-to-cut-600-jobs-rather-than-bosses-pay

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/mar/13/metro-bank-to-cut-1000-jobs-and-end-seven-day-branch-model

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/30/sky-cut-1000-jobs-customers-move-pay-tv-internet

We keep hearing about universities but the reality is that a lot of companies are struggling , and particularly those that over expanded in a post COVID boom are now adjusting to a slow down in demand. Universities are not unique in this and will have to downsize/become leaner same as other businesses.

missjekyll:
I m holding my horses , zahra till i see some manifestos. This dianne abbot fiasco has got me in my feelings.

Also , with all the BAME ministers in government, there has never been a worse time than now to be black in the recent past. I ll be watching him to see what he's made of.

Still Register to vote, people. And stand by to go about!

Just being appointed as the first black leader of any EU country is a win and should be recognised as such.

30 years ago it would have been inconceivable. It shows growth is taking place in the midst of weeds which will always be there by the way.

https://news.sky.com/story/vaughan-gething-the-vets-son-and-cricket-fan-whos-set-to-become-waless-first-minister-13079100

From his family experiencing racism when his Welsh father moved his Zambian wife and young children to Wales, to becoming the first black / black-ish leader of any European country.

Calls for celebration 🎉🎊

@missjekyll, he's one of yours so I expect you'll be dropping party details asap

For anyone intending to apply for a skilled worker visa from 4th April (excluding health and care workers and education workers), please take note of the following information which has largely been missed in the midst of the big headlines.

From the statement of rule changes published this week:

***Sponsoring employers must pay Skilled Workers at least a general salary threshold or

the going rate for the individual occupation, whichever is higher. The general salary

threshold is being raised from £26,200 (based on 25th percentile UK earnings in
eligible occupations) to £38,700 (based on median UK earnings in eligible occupations). Going rates are also being raised from the 25th percentile to the median.

The new thresholds and going rates are based on the latest Office for National

Statistics (ONS) pay data4***
__________________________________
Attention has largely been focused on the increase in the general salary threshold for Skilled Worker visas from £26,200 (based on the 25th) percentile to £38,700 (based on the 50th percentile).

However, at the same time, the going rate salary thresholds for individual occupations (excluding Health and Care worker roles) will also increase from the 25th percentile to the 50th percentile.

This means that depending on the role, the minimum salary payable for a Skilled Worker visa may be significantly higher than £38,700.

For example, the occupation code for Programmers and Software Development Professionals (SOC 2010 code 2136) currently specifies a minimum salary of £34,000 (reduced to £27,200 because it is on the Shortage Occupation List). The estimated 50th percentile rate for the same occupation code is £49,430 (SOC 2020 code 2134) (which means that anyone applying under the Skilled Worker route for this type of role on or after 4 April will need to be paid in the region of £49,430 per annum unless they are covered by a transitional arrangement.

It's worth looking up your occupation to find out what its new going rate based on the 50th percentile is.

Edit

The new entrant visa gives a discount of 70% of the going rate in the 50th percentile

heykims:

The new law was made to protect those already in the UK. There are certain exceptions to the salary threshold and new graduates and those on post graduate visa is among. So no matter what u earn, u can still bring in dependants within 2 years of the time u graduate.

The bolded is incorrect.

There is a new entrant work visa that graduates are eligible for, however it proffers a discount as opposed to an an exception from the new salary threshold. The salary requirements for a graduate on a new entrant visa has increased to a minimum of £30,960(up from £20,960) or 70% of the occupation going rate - whichever is higher.

The only occupations that are exempt from the new increased salary threshold are NHS clinical roles (nurses etc) , care workers and education workers which will be based on their national pay scale.

hustla:
In other unrelated news, I finally completed my Msc Cybersecurity with Distinction

You all can come and chop jollof rice in June abi July

Bills on Lexusgs430

Congratulations!!!💐🎉

Regex:
Biko, Seniors in the house. I have got a question. If one is working in care on sponsorship for 2yrs and got a job in another sector on the job shortage list. Will the person start afresh to count towards 5yrs or they will continue from the 2yrs?

It will continue on from the 2 years.

Has the application for the job on the SOL been made yet, as the current shortage list is being overhauled on the 4th of April and the 20% discount will be removed

AntiMCU:


Will the salary threshold be applicable when it is time for extension?

For example, I was given a 1 year CoS this year and I want to renew next year. Will I need to meet the 38700 threshold?

I'm asking because I just put in my application today.

No, you won't be held to the £38,700 threshold on extension if you apply before 4th April

The statement of changes to formalise the new policies being implemented on April 4 has just been published:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/statement-of-changes-to-the-immigration-rules-hc-590-14-march-2024

No unexpected announcements, although they provided confirmation that the new entrant discount would remain.

As expected the SOL is being replaced and the 20% discount will be removed.

Minimum income requirement for family visas is going up to 29k , they have also removed the additional income for children which will provide some cushion.

dupyshoo:

You wey no need any support. I wonder how you keep going despite some very spiteful comments. I admire this your ability. You no send anybody.

Lol 😂

I actually hate conflict, but this being an anonymous forum empowers me to speak my truth.

Now Twitter is a different ball game, those warriors are the true MVPs lol

deept:


The UK does not just hate students who bring their money to come to contribute, we hate the middle class worker because we tax them to the teeth. We hate the Europeans who came here to work and contribute, we voted brexit. We hate corporations because they do not pay enough tax. We hate landlords, enterpreneurs with all the roadblocks and million regulations that does not encourage investment and productivity. We hate gen Z, we hate the consaervatives, we hate labpour, we hate SNP,. The hate is not reserved for any group.

Question is how do we thrive inspite of everything?

Lol, so funny but also 💯

I think most of the underlying advice is not to take the immigration rules personally, although I appreciate it's hard not to when it affects one's person.

AKALAMAGBO:
Message to LEXUSGS430…

Please, never relent in your great pursuit of advising, encouraging and humoring us on here.
You have been very consistent, responding positively to concerns, nervousness and fears on questions that bothers multitude of new entrants in the UK through this lovely thread.

You have shared life changing advice which has also positively enriched the community here in general, either one way or another.

I enjoy your contributions on this forum and implore you to keep up the good work. You are a hero here and people love you… Ignore the Naysayers, as most of them have NEVER contributed anything meaningful here BUT hellbent on destroying/labeling the great contributors with unfounded accusations.

Zahra29… I admire your contribution on here, more grease to your elbow.

😀😀😀🤩🤩🤩

Aww thank you 😊
Make sure you show up to support me oh when my own dragging starts

dupyshoo:
I don't share the same opinion with you though.
I instead see him as someone who takes life very easy and tries to find humour out of every situation.

Do I have the same personality? No!! Everyone cannot be the same.

I can however say he has contributed immensely to this thread. He has been consistent and always willing to answer question with a bit of humour. He is one of the people that has kept this thread going and interesting.

Hear hear

Completely agree with this and similar comments by others.

I remember when I joined the thread and Lexus was exposed as the secret angel who had helped some people on the forum.
He regularly answers questions and proffers advice. Maybe it's the feeling that his advice comes from a place of comfort that irks some? Though they forget that he's gone through his own struggles in the past.

Dappy25:
I understand that Lexusgs430 finds humour in everything and some people might not like that understandable. But there is no evidence to accuse him this way. I’ve been following this thread since 2022 and he has been providing lots of advice and information, things more experienced UK people won’t even bother with.

His advice with getting life insurance is one I took and I’m happy I did because I’m almost in a bleak medical situation now.

Sorry to hear that, I pray you have a speedy and full recovery 🙏

ehizario2012:


I am not tracking lexusgs430 or have any personal interest in him, but just as he has a right to say whatever, I have a right to challenge whatever. I'm not even asking him to stop, but he should be seen for who he is. He claims he helped people out of depression?? Is that not funny?? It's not only Lexus, the other ones who act as though they sat down with home office to draft the immigration policies too know themselves.

Where is Justwise ohhhhhh....the class is getting too rowdy 😭