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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 11:41am On Mar 18
Gloriouscrown:


Hello Elengine, could you please explain further? Having a child in the UK can get you a leave to remain? Wow... I know plenty people who are interested in this info oo.

Thank you.

I'm also interested in hearing how (outside of the British child/7 year residence exception).

There's so much misinformation flying around these days.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 11:38am On Mar 18
OgbeniOptional:
I will be extremely happy if she can get the leave to remain for 30 months, enough to navigate one’s life.



Yes, that would be good. I think she might be granted at least the remainder of her current visa, it depends on the caseworker tbh.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:30pm On Mar 17
LionInZion:


Just out of curiosity, what will happen to the woman's and her children's stay in the UK no that the main applicant is dead? How does Home Office handles matters like this? Zahra29, any idea?

If the lady is on a spouse visa, ie.her husband was British, settled etc , then there is a specific application that allows her to apply for ILR as a bereaved partner.

Unfortunately, for dependants where the sponsor was on a points based visa, the home office will consider cancelling leave, although they can also exercise discretion if there are compelling compassionate factors in the case.

There are guidelines, for example the home office must allow a minimum period of one
month after the date on which the individual died before they contact any dependants
about the case. If they decide to cancel leave they can also exercise discretion to allow longer than the usual 60 days to depart/vary leave.

In this time the woman could explore obtaining sponsorship (although this would understandably be quite challenging for the poor woman to do at this very sad and difficult time) or making a Discretionary Leave to Remain application which is considered for exceptional or compassionate circumstances that are not accommodated in other immigration rules. If granted, it is usually for a period of 30 months after which further leave may or may not be granted depending on the facts of the case.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:52pm On Mar 16
Lexusgs430:



Universities have decided to stage a fightback and accuse the government........😁

I would point my accusing fingers at our political class and politicians, for failing to judiciously spend Nigerian's wealth appropriately.......

Imagine if Nigeria was like Dubai/Qatar/Saudi...... Let's just imagine that thought and relish in it .......😜

Las Las, we go all dey alright......πŸ€”

Pfft....many universities got too greedy and are as much to blame. Some were so lenient in their entry criteria and checks and only started crying out when students started switching to tier 2 as soon as they landed and leaving the universities out of pocket.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:46pm On Mar 16
hustla:


grin

I am not rejoicing at their downfall...the route was due for review along with the care worker one as it was massively abused

My own problem is how they talk down on students as if we came to scrounge without paying fees. They should tell the true story and mention how much students have also contributed to their economy

Its really offensive and downright foolish to me

I agree

Unfortunately negative news caused by the bad apples trends and distorts public sentiment
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:19pm On Mar 16
hustla:


You should consider a career in politics (not an insult o)

I have been waiting for your comment

grin

Lol, I already have a job as a UKVI agent/defender as an esteemed poster labelled me the other day grin

I see why foreign students may want to rejoice at the downturn in universities' finances and catastrophise that the whole economy is at risk of collapse because they banned dependants....however the facts are that many companies in other industries are having a harder time then universities - downsizing, freezing/reducing hiring, offshoring etc- and these are the same companies that foreign students would be seeking employment from when they graduate...

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:39pm On Mar 16
Lexusgs430:
The chickens have returned home...... It's now time to roost/roast ........ πŸ˜‚

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/universities-foreign-students-financial-crisis-b2513637.html


Nigerian currency collapse was also mentioned........ πŸ˜‚

Other industries have been going through rounds of voluntary and compulsory redundancies over the last year, slashing way more jobs than these universities are considering. Examples below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.consultancy.uk/news/amp/35730/deloitte-to-slash-800-jobs-with-consulting-hit-hardest

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/07/pwc-defends-plans-to-cut-600-jobs-rather-than-bosses-pay

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/mar/13/metro-bank-to-cut-1000-jobs-and-end-seven-day-branch-model

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/30/sky-cut-1000-jobs-customers-move-pay-tv-internet

We keep hearing about universities but the reality is that a lot of companies are struggling , and particularly those that over expanded in a post COVID boom are now adjusting to a slow down in demand. Universities are not unique in this and will have to downsize/become leaner same as other businesses.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:50pm On Mar 16
missjekyll:
I m holding my horses , zahra till i see some manifestos. This dianne abbot fiasco has got me in my feelings.

Also , with all the BAME ministers in government, there has never been a worse time than now to be black in the recent past. I ll be watching him to see what he's made of.

Still Register to vote, people. And stand by to go about!


Just being appointed as the first black leader of any EU country is a win and should be recognised as such.

30 years ago it would have been inconceivable. It shows growth is taking place in the midst of weeds which will always be there by the way.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:42pm On Mar 16
https://news.sky.com/story/vaughan-gething-the-vets-son-and-cricket-fan-whos-set-to-become-waless-first-minister-13079100

From his family experiencing racism when his Welsh father moved his Zambian wife and young children to Wales, to becoming the first black / black-ish leader of any European country.

Calls for celebration πŸŽ‰πŸŽŠ

@missjekyll, he's one of yours so I expect you'll be dropping party details asap grin

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:11pm On Mar 15
For anyone intending to apply for a skilled worker visa from 4th April (excluding health and care workers and education workers), please take note of the following information which has largely been missed in the midst of the big headlines.

From the statement of rule changes published this week:

***Sponsoring employers must pay Skilled Workers at least a general salary threshold or

the going rate for the individual occupation, whichever is higher
. The general salary

threshold is being raised from Β£26,200 (based on 25th percentile UK earnings in
eligible occupations) to Β£38,700 (based on median UK earnings in eligible occupations). Going rates are also being raised from the 25th percentile to the median.

The new thresholds and going rates are based on the latest Office for National

Statistics (ONS) pay data4
***
__________________________________
Attention has largely been focused on the increase in the general salary threshold for Skilled Worker visas from Β£26,200 (based on the 25th) percentile to Β£38,700 (based on the 50th percentile).

However, at the same time, the going rate salary thresholds for individual occupations (excluding Health and Care worker roles) will also increase from the 25th percentile to the 50th percentile.

This means that depending on the role, the minimum salary payable for a Skilled Worker visa may be significantly higher than Β£38,700.

For example, the occupation code for Programmers and Software Development Professionals (SOC 2010 code 2136) currently specifies a minimum salary of Β£34,000 (reduced to Β£27,200 because it is on the Shortage Occupation List). The estimated 50th percentile rate for the same occupation code is Β£49,430 (SOC 2020 code 2134) (which means that anyone applying under the Skilled Worker route for this type of role on or after 4 April will need to be paid in the region of Β£49,430 per annum unless they are covered by a transitional arrangement.

It's worth looking up your occupation to find out what its new going rate based on the 50th percentile is.

Edit

The new entrant visa gives a discount of 70% of the going rate in the 50th percentile

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Travel / Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 9 by Zahra29: 8:55pm On Mar 15
heykims:

The new law was made to protect those already in the UK. There are certain exceptions to the salary threshold and new graduates and those on post graduate visa is among. So no matter what u earn, u can still bring in dependants within 2 years of the time u graduate.

The bolded is incorrect.

There is a new entrant work visa that graduates are eligible for, however it proffers a discount as opposed to an an exception from the new salary threshold. The salary requirements for a graduate on a new entrant visa has increased to a minimum of Β£30,960(up from Β£20,960) or 70% of the occupation going rate - whichever is higher.

The only occupations that are exempt from the new increased salary threshold are NHS clinical roles (nurses etc) , care workers and education workers which will be based on their national pay scale.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:01pm On Mar 14
hustla:
In other unrelated news, I finally completed my Msc Cybersecurity with Distinction

You all can come and chop jollof rice in June abi July

Bills on Lexusgs430

grin

Congratulations!!!πŸ’πŸŽ‰
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:57pm On Mar 14
Regex:
Biko, Seniors in the house. I have got a question. If one is working in care on sponsorship for 2yrs and got a job in another sector on the job shortage list. Will the person start afresh to count towards 5yrs or they will continue from the 2yrs?

It will continue on from the 2 years.

Has the application for the job on the SOL been made yet, as the current shortage list is being overhauled on the 4th of April and the 20% discount will be removed

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:55pm On Mar 14
AntiMCU:


Will the salary threshold be applicable when it is time for extension?

For example, I was given a 1 year CoS this year and I want to renew next year. Will I need to meet the 38700 threshold?

I'm asking because I just put in my application today.

No, you won't be held to the Β£38,700 threshold on extension if you apply before 4th April

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:01pm On Mar 14
The statement of changes to formalise the new policies being implemented on April 4 has just been published:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/statement-of-changes-to-the-immigration-rules-hc-590-14-march-2024

No unexpected announcements, although they provided confirmation that the new entrant discount would remain.

As expected the SOL is being replaced and the 20% discount will be removed.

Minimum income requirement for family visas is going up to 29k , they have also removed the additional income for children which will provide some cushion.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:33pm On Mar 14
dupyshoo:
grin grin grin
You wey no need any support. I wonder how you keep going despite some very spiteful comments. I admire this your ability. You no send anybody.


Lol πŸ˜‚

I actually hate conflict, but this being an anonymous forum empowers me to speak my truth.

Now Twitter is a different ball game, those warriors are the true MVPs lol

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:22pm On Mar 14
deept:


The UK does not just hate students who bring their money to come to contribute, we hate the middle class worker because we tax them to the teeth. We hate the Europeans who came here to work and contribute, we voted brexit. We hate corporations because they do not pay enough tax. We hate landlords, enterpreneurs with all the roadblocks and million regulations that does not encourage investment and productivity. We hate gen Z, we hate the consaervatives, we hate labpour, we hate SNP,. The hate is not reserved for any group. grin tongue

Question is how do we thrive inspite of everything?


Lol, so funny but also πŸ’―

I think most of the underlying advice is not to take the immigration rules personally, although I appreciate it's hard not to when it affects one's person.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:18pm On Mar 14
AKALAMAGBO:
Message to LEXUSGS430…

Please, never relent in your great pursuit of advising, encouraging and humoring us on here.
You have been very consistent, responding positively to concerns, nervousness and fears on questions that bothers multitude of new entrants in the UK through this lovely thread.

You have shared life changing advice which has also positively enriched the community here in general, either one way or another.

I enjoy your contributions on this forum and implore you to keep up the good work. You are a hero here and people love you… Ignore the Naysayers, as most of them have NEVER contributed anything meaningful here BUT hellbent on destroying/labeling the great contributors with unfounded accusations.

Zahra29… I admire your contribution on here, more grease to your elbow.

πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ€©πŸ€©πŸ€©

Aww thank you 😊
Make sure you show up to support me oh when my own dragging starts grin

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 11:39am On Mar 14
dupyshoo:
I don't share the same opinion with you though.
I instead see him as someone who takes life very easy and tries to find humour out of every situation.

Do I have the same personality? No!! Everyone cannot be the same.

I can however say he has contributed immensely to this thread. He has been consistent and always willing to answer question with a bit of humour. He is one of the people that has kept this thread going and interesting.



Hear hear

Completely agree with this and similar comments by others.

I remember when I joined the thread and Lexus was exposed as the secret angel who had helped some people on the forum.
He regularly answers questions and proffers advice. Maybe it's the feeling that his advice comes from a place of comfort that irks some? Though they forget that he's gone through his own struggles in the past.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 11:32am On Mar 14
Dappy25:
I understand that Lexusgs430 finds humour in everything and some people might not like that understandable. But there is no evidence to accuse him this way. I’ve been following this thread since 2022 and he has been providing lots of advice and information, things more experienced UK people won’t even bother with.

His advice with getting life insurance is one I took and I’m happy I did because I’m almost in a bleak medical situation now.

Sorry to hear that, I pray you have a speedy and full recovery πŸ™

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:18am On Mar 14
ehizario2012:


I am not tracking lexusgs430 or have any personal interest in him, but just as he has a right to say whatever, I have a right to challenge whatever. I'm not even asking him to stop, but he should be seen for who he is. He claims he helped people out of depression?? Is that not funny?? It's not only Lexus, the other ones who act as though they sat down with home office to draft the immigration policies too know themselves.


Where is Justwise ohhhhhh....the class is getting too rowdy 😭
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:22am On Mar 14
Hkana:
@zahra29 can you signpost me to where I can read up how the new "no dependant for care workers" affect new NHS staff?

Anyone else is welcome to help as well.

This link should answer key questions for NHS employees:

https://www.nhsemployers.org/articles/impacts-changes-uk-immigration-policy

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:55pm On Mar 13
Lexusgs430:



This imam is very polite........ How we miss that imam with the hook on one arm........ The hook imam, was clearly a terrorist + an extremist....... Yet the UK could not touch him for years....... Hook was even granted British citizenship.......... We miss you hook....... πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

Abu Hamza!!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

The epic fights between him and T May/Home offfice lol

He was one of the main reasons for the tightening the human rights act in UK immigration.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 4:12pm On Mar 13
jedisco:


No need going adhominem.
This is hardly about my take on the care sector which has always been consistent. British taxes should pay for British care. If we need to rely on external workforce, they should be appreciated. Rather than use the care route as another form of modern slavery, it should be scrapped. If that means income tax goes up 75% or council taxes has to increase by 10% annually to pay for the ever balooning adult social care, so be it.

The new rules only instutionalise that exploitation. For decades the sector has been supported by migrant labour. It has only just come to the fore thanks to Brexit.
Finally, after 5 years of hard work on minimum wage with no family, they'd still become Brits and see that they've contributed more to the economy in 5 yrs than some of the folks they were waiting on did.

The slavery you speak of largely came from Nigerian care agencies who scammed and exploited many of their own.

Otherwise no one is forcing immigrants to work in the care route. It's well known that it's a hard job for not much pay, so any immigrant who chooses to go into that field must have their reasons why.

Same way the new rules that exclude family members were published well in advance so it's a conscious choice for anyone who still chooses to proceed.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 12:52pm On Mar 13
jedisco:


The government here is not worried about ending abuse but rather restricting who perpetrates the abuse to themselves and also appearing tough on immigration as a last ditch attempt at the next election. Reports of rampant abuse have been in the media for years yet they looked on until numbers balooned.

You don't seem to care about the rogue agents that were profiteering off the plight of fellow immigrants, but you're annoyed that the government decided to clamp down?

The main issues started when the care visa route was introduced a couple of years ago. Before then, immigrants had been working in care for decades and there was none of this blatant abuse


Why was the salary treshold for care workers retained at an abysmal 20k when the wider treshold was increased?

Why have they made carers the only immigrant group who would be unable to bring family over hence restricting their right to family life?

Because the care sector is the work visa route that has been exploited. It's not possible to buy cos for a doctor or nurse or electrical engineer, plus the entry requirements are more stringent. However the care route became a free for all and the government figures showed that 120,000 dependants accompanied 100,000 workers on the route just last year, constituting the largest contribution to the jump in immigration figures.

All this ensures the government pays the least for social care by ensuring a streamlined supply of poorly paid care workers. This still does nothing to adress the abuse everyday care workers face- something that'd be sorted by higher pay

Yes, the government has been pressured to increase the sector pay, mainly because this would make it more attractive to residents and reduce reliance on foreign labour.

It's not just care work that is poorly paid. NHS Clinical roles as a whole, hence all the protests.


Ultimately, even the COS for even the new roles would still be sold on the black market.

I very much doubt it. Any firm that requests COS allocation now has to be audited and regulated by the CQC. They also have to provide evidence to the home office that there is a genuine vacancy and available work for the candidate. This is why there has been a dramatic drop in the number of care cos being issued.

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Travel / Re: UK Skilled Worker Visa / Health And Care Worker Visa / Qualified Teacher Route by Zahra29: 11:27am On Mar 13
Ogbaba123:
Please I’ll need clarity on these

Scenario 1: a dependant working with a dependant visa for years with an organization, will the new visa rule apply to them if they decide to switch to a Saw visa even after working with this organization for years

Scenario 2: for a skilled worker extending their visa, will the new visa salary threshold apply to them?

Thank you

Scenario 1 : Yes
Scenario 2 : No

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:46am On Mar 13
hustla:



The good thing though is that the Β£38K thing does not affect those who have just graduated but I see a sizable number of Nigerian students leaving the UK (a lot have left already or are planning to leave) as most of the policies are downright sinister and meant to restrict your upwards mobility.

I expect things to free up a bit within 1 yr and changes to be made, maybe a bit more stability smiley

Sinister in what way? Strict perhaps, but also justifiable unless you expect the government to continue to turn a blind eye to unsustainable levels of migration coupled with rampant immigration abuse in certain sectors.

Sinister is what I would call the African and Asian care operators/agencies/brokers who were charging up to Β£15,000 for a sponsorship certificate that they obtained for less than Β£300 from the government. Bringing thousands in and having no work to give them (despite so called shortages in the care sector). Sinister are the agents who were attaching fake spouses onto their clients' applications without their knowledge. (Yes I've heard of instances where this has happened), and many other examples. I'm not sure why people are not directing their frustration towards these individuals.


The government isn't boxing anyone into care, in fact the recent policies are designed to restrict the number of immigrants going into care.

The landscape will settle for sure, but gone are the days of "buy 1 cos, get 2 free".

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:25am On Mar 13
Viruses:


If they were in UK before travelling back, it means they have used their CoS, they are now BRP holders. Therefore the chatgpt that generated this post no know book. If within the 10 days the employer have terminated their employment, they have 90 days to get another sponsorship so the chatgpt no still know book because their BRP will be valid.

Your pal is not a standard, he did what best suits him. This family could have planned their holiday to align with the burial period (even though the story is false).


The curtailment period is 60 days to find a new sponsor and this applies only if you are in the UK and have formally been served notice.

When a sponsor licence expires or is revoked it will automatically curtail any individual that is the main visa holder or dependent on the licence if that individual is abroad. The curtailment is deemed served and no notice is required for those overseas. While your checks with the BRP may show they remain valid it may show an entirely different set of circumstances at the internal information systems available at the border.

Most legal practitioners caution that if you are already outside the UK or travel outside the UK, regardless of a formal notice of curtailment, your visa will be automatically voided by default and you will be refused entry as the sponsor license is no longer valid. This is standard practice in the US I believe.

It's a grey area as the home office specifically mentions first time travellers and not those already working in the UK, and it is down to the discretion of the border official. They could offer Temporary Admission for instance but that will be based on their view of the circumstances.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:38pm On Mar 12
ehizario2012:
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/amp/church-pastor-who-preached-daily-on-facebook-jailed-for-beat-303205/

It's people like this that are giving Nigerian immigrants a bad name in the UK, it's crazy. I know spouses can suddenly develop unimaginable characters (including cheating) when they get to the UK, but domestic violence is never the solution. It's better to let the marriage gradually degenerate (while arranging plan B) and disintegrate eventually rather than be forced to go violent.

That was very uncomfortable reading, such a violent man.

Well, he'll be deported after he's released.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:29am On Mar 12
AntiMCU:


Guys please your help on this issue is required.

Is the job code still not appearing? It's either a system glitch or they're making changes ahead of the SOL overhaul in April - though it's most likely to be the former.
If the issue is still persisting I would contact the hiring officer/HR to see if they can access it on their end or escalate to home office.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:25am On Mar 12
lavida001:


Only if Nigeria could work. UK policy’s towards immigrants is a sinister one. That’s why I do always shekpe for anybody and their family involve in Nigeria being backwards.

Lol that's a whole lot of people to shekpe for πŸ˜‚
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:07pm On Mar 09
missjekyll:
I wonder whether that has been the case in canada and the USA where they are allowed to work.

The cruelty is mindbending. I am a refugee ,you keep me in a hotel room sharing with 3 other people i dont know on 7 pounds/day. I can't go outside without being harassed by people who hate me
It speaks to the resilience of the human spirit that there are not more suicides than there are.

What would Jesus do if he met an asylum seeker,I wonder? Would he treat them the same way?

A lot of this resentment stems from public opinion that asylum seekers are chancers who are living it large on the state with free accommodation and benefits and doing nothing but going shopping and popping out babies.

And who can blame them if this is the narrative being put out there on Facebook and the like.

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